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GuyCarlPeterson
05/26/17 8:53:25 AM
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http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/may/19/harvard-study-trump-most-negative-coverage/

President Trump has suffered the most unfavorable press coverage of any president on record, according to a report from the Shorenstein Center at Harvard.

Mr. Trump has dominated the news since taking office, with 41 percent of all stories reviewed by the center focusing on the new president. That’s three times more than the average of previous presidents.
But the tone of the coverage was exceptionally antagonistic.

“Negative reports outpaced positive ones by 80 percent to 20 percent. Trump’s coverage was unsparing. In no week did the coverage drop below 70 percent negative and it reached 90 percent negative at its peak,” the analysts said in their new report, released Thursday.

The numbers could be seen to back up Mr. Trump’s claim this week that he’s suffered “unfairly.”

“Look at the way I’ve been treated lately, especially by the media. No politician in history — and I say this with great surety — has been treated worse or more unfairly,” the president said in an address to graduates at the Coast Guard Academy.

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Spherticus
05/26/17 8:54:27 AM
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It's because we all hate him
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Mackorov
05/26/17 8:55:00 AM
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this is like acting like an absolute jerk in school and not expecting people to pass bad rumors about you. What does Trump expect? Praise and glory in the news for constantly acting like a dumbass?
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DifferentialEquation
05/26/17 8:55:44 AM
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The media is biased and refuses to report on the good things that Trump and his administration are doing. Trump has been saying this the whole time and he's 100% right.
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CableZL
05/26/17 8:56:09 AM
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That's what happens when you say and do dumb things on an almost daily basis.
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TheBiggerWiggle
05/26/17 8:56:46 AM
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This is a useless report though. Literally everything Trump has done has been either negative or irrelevant. There is nothing positive to report on unless you go the fake news route.
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LightningAce11
05/26/17 8:57:05 AM
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CableZL posted...
That's what happens when you say and do dumb things on an almost daily basis.

This. The media reports on what the president says and does, and in Trump's case he does stupid things hourly.
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GuyCarlPeterson
05/26/17 8:57:12 AM
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CableZL posted...
That's what happens when you say and do dumb things on an almost daily basis.

Except how much of it is looking for something negative to report on (ice cream gate) or the media pushing the same story over and over (Russia collusion)?
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Slip-N-Slide
05/26/17 9:02:18 AM
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DifferentialEquation posted...
The media is biased and refuses to report on the good things that Trump and his administration are doing. Trump has been saying this the whole time and he's 100% right.

List the good things aside from TPP.
Genuinely curious.
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3rd_Best_Master
05/26/17 9:02:39 AM
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GuyCarlPeterson posted...
CableZL posted...
That's what happens when you say and do dumb things on an almost daily basis.

Except how much of it is looking for something negative to report on (ice cream gate) or the media pushing the same story over and over (Russia collusion)?

What positive things has Trump done that you think should be reported on?
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foreveraIone
05/26/17 9:02:50 AM
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Slip-N-Slide posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
The media is biased and refuses to report on the good things that Trump and his administration are doing. Trump has been saying this the whole time and he's 100% right.

List the good things aside from TPP.
Genuinely curious.

Don't take him seriously.
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DifferentialEquation
05/26/17 9:04:11 AM
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Slip-N-Slide posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
The media is biased and refuses to report on the good things that Trump and his administration are doing. Trump has been saying this the whole time and he's 100% right.

List the good things aside from TPP.
Genuinely curious.


There's more, but these are just a few of the most noteworthy ones:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObsQ8_58V3Q

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cjsdowg
05/26/17 9:06:41 AM
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And there is more negative cover over AIDS then Ice Cream. When something is bad people are going to say negative things about it .
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Blo
05/26/17 9:08:17 AM
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Study: media coverage of ebola is mostly negative
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Mackorov
05/26/17 9:08:36 AM
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Slip-N-Slide posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
The media is biased and refuses to report on the good things that Trump and his administration are doing. Trump has been saying this the whole time and he's 100% right.

List the good things aside from TPP.
Genuinely curious.


well, withdrawing from the TPP is arguable as well.
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GuyCarlPeterson
05/26/17 9:17:52 AM
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What does it take for people to realize the media is biased?
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GuyCarlPeterson
05/26/17 9:18:23 AM
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Mackorov posted...
Slip-N-Slide posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
The media is biased and refuses to report on the good things that Trump and his administration are doing. Trump has been saying this the whole time and he's 100% right.

List the good things aside from TPP.
Genuinely curious.


well, withdrawing from the TPP is arguable as well.

No it fucking isn't.
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teepan95
05/26/17 9:20:37 AM
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How do they define 'negative' coverage? There's a difference between covering negative things and covering things negatively.
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Doom_Art
05/26/17 9:21:20 AM
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GuyCarlPeterson posted...
What does it take for people to realize the media is biased?

Trump gets negative coverage because he does negative things

That's not bias.

What is it going to take for you to understand that Trump doesn't get a pass on shit just for being Trump?

GuyCarlPeterson posted...
No it fucking isn't.

It certainly is
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Annihilated
05/26/17 9:24:56 AM
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CableZL posted...
That's what happens when you say and do dumb things on an almost daily basis.


No it's not. The same thing happened to George W. Bush and he ended up having an approval rating about 20 points lower than what it should have been.
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Doom_Art
05/26/17 9:27:21 AM
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Annihilated posted...
No it's not. The same thing happened to George W. Bush and he ended up having an approval rating about 20 points lower than what it should have been.

Lol post Iraq, Recession, and Katrina his approval rating was exactly what it should've been
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foreveraIone
05/26/17 9:28:24 AM
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Annihilated posted...


No it's not. The same thing happened to George W. Bush and he ended up having an approval rating about 20 points lower than what it should have been.

Dude. When almost half of your own party disapproves of you, as even Republicans did at some point late into his presidency, you have to admit maybe the liberals were right about the guy.
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That_Happened
05/26/17 9:31:35 AM
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Trolls on CE can't figure out why America won't give Troll President a fair shake. Self awareness is a lost art.
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lilORANG
05/26/17 9:31:47 AM
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Harvard answering the important questions lol


Nah but really we all knew this, and it's not because of bias, it's because Trump has failed at every step of the way.
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Doom_Art
05/26/17 9:32:45 AM
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That_Happened posted...
Trolls on CE can't figure out why America won't give Troll President a fair shake. Self awareness is a lost art.

It's just completely baffling

"Hey he tried to obstruct an investigation into himself but the BIASED media is reporting on that instead of covering a visit he made to an elementary school!"

like what??
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TheVipaGTS
05/26/17 9:33:08 AM
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Moron president who does and says stupid shit every day gets criticized for that stupid shit everyday...."Waaaah, media bias, not fair! please coddle him!"......and these are the people who bitch and moan about PC SJWs every day.
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Caution999
05/26/17 9:33:46 AM
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lilORANG posted...
Harvard answering the important questions lol


Nah but really we all knew this, and it's not because of bias, it's because Trump has failed at every step of the way.



Or it's because the Clintons have framed this Russian conspiracy theory and stapled it to his ass even though it's not true.

Hillary is so bitter in her defeat that she would do ANYTHING to sandbag this presidency.
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GuyCarlPeterson
05/26/17 9:34:00 AM
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teepan95 posted...
How do they define 'negative' coverage? There's a difference between covering negative things and covering things negatively.

This is a good question because some were reporting on things like dropping the MOAB as negative while others thought it was a good thing. Same with the hit on Syria and backing out of the TPP.
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lilORANG
05/26/17 9:35:51 AM
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Caution999 posted...
lilORANG posted...
Harvard answering the important questions lol


Nah but really we all knew this, and it's not because of bias, it's because Trump has failed at every step of the way.



Or it's because the Clintons have framed this Russian conspiracy theory and stapled it to his ass even though it's not true.

Hillary is so bitter in her defeat that she would do ANYTHING to sandbag this presidency.


Comey is definitely a Clinton puppet right??
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teepan95
05/26/17 9:36:07 AM
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GuyCarlPeterson posted...
teepan95 posted...
How do they define 'negative' coverage? There's a difference between covering negative things and covering things negatively.

This is a good question because some were reporting on things like dropping the MOAB as negative while others thought it was a good thing. Same with the hit on Syria and backing out of the TPP.

Personally, I feel the media should just cover things while trying to be as neutral/factual as possible.

Not sure if it's any different in the US, but the news services I use tend to achieve that.
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Doom_Art
05/26/17 9:38:52 AM
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Caution999 posted...
Russian conspiracy theory

Call it a conspiracy all you like, that will not change the reality of it

Caution999 posted...
even though it's not true

That's totally why like a dozen people in his administration have lied about contacts with Russia (with a handful resigning over it) It's all a fake Clinton scandal!

Caution999 posted...
Hillary is so bitter in her defeat that she would do ANYTHING to sandbag this presidency.

How does Hillary have any control over this? She's not an elected official or part of the government in any way.

She didn't force anyone to lie about their contacts with Russians

She didn't force Mike Flynn to act as a foreign agent

She didn't force Trump to obstruct justice

She's didn't appoint a special counsel to investigate Trump's administration and obstructionism.
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Annihilated
05/26/17 9:40:15 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
Annihilated posted...
No it's not. The same thing happened to George W. Bush and he ended up having an approval rating about 20 points lower than what it should have been.

Lol post Iraq, Recession, and Katrina his approval rating was exactly what it should've been


Bullshit. Iraq was overblown, recession had nothing to do with Bush, and you'd have to be a petty little shit to blame the president for a fucking hurricane.
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Caution999
05/26/17 9:40:25 AM
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Trump will remain POTUS until you come up with something more conclusive than hurt feelings. (circumstantial evidence)

Deal with it.
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CableZL
05/26/17 9:42:31 AM
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Annihilated posted...
Bulls***. Iraq was overblown, recession had nothing to do with Bush, and you'd have to be a petty little s*** to blame the president for a f***ing hurricane.


What? Bush wasn't blamed for the hurricane. It was the fact that he was slow to send aid that he was criticized for.
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Doom_Art
05/26/17 9:42:40 AM
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Annihilated posted...
Iraq was overblown

A quagmire war in some shit hole country based on faulty intelligence was not "overblown"

Annihilated posted...
recession had nothing to do with Bush

Whether it was coming or not, his economic policies didn't help.

And whether it had nothing to do with him or not is irrelevant. People always blame the president for economic gains or woes.

Annihilated posted...
you'd have to be a petty little shit to blame the president for a fucking hurricane

You can certainly make a case to blame him for the horrid response to the aforementioned hurricane
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Doom_Art
05/26/17 9:43:41 AM
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Caution999 posted...
Trump will remain POTUS until you come up with something more conclusive than hurt feelings. (circumstantial evidence)

Deal with it.

That's all you have?

Nothing to respond to my deconstruction of your idiotic Clinton theory?
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teepan95
05/26/17 9:45:13 AM
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It's important to note, however, that this does not mean that ARD journalists criticized Trump. Negative coverage includes stories in which the president was criticized by a third person, and reports on facts and events that simply reflected negatively on Trump.

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It's important to note, however, that Patterson ignored one crucial factor when coming up with these numbers. He excluded stories that skewed neither positively nor negatively. Even though neutral reports accounted for about a third of all media outlets' Trump coverage, they were not included in the study's results at all.


http://m.dw.com/en/study-german-media-extremely-negative-about-trump/a-38974231
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GuyCarlPeterson
05/26/17 9:45:33 AM
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teepan95 posted...
GuyCarlPeterson posted...
teepan95 posted...
How do they define 'negative' coverage? There's a difference between covering negative things and covering things negatively.

This is a good question because some were reporting on things like dropping the MOAB as negative while others thought it was a good thing. Same with the hit on Syria and backing out of the TPP.

Personally, I feel the media should just cover things while trying to be as neutral/factual as possible.

Not sure if it's any different in the US, but the news services I use tend to achieve that.

It isn't like that at all here. Virtually every single news outlet takes a side. It got even worse in this past election with blatant collusion between news outlets and the DNC. You can't really gets news from any source without them trying to spin it one way or the other. You can't just get the facts.
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Caution999
05/26/17 9:46:01 AM
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She found a way to pin this Russian narrative on the guy. Trump hasn't obstructed justice.

When will one of you man up and put your account on the line if you're so sure that Trump will be impeached?
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Doom_Art
05/26/17 9:49:04 AM
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Caution999 posted...
She found a way to pin this Russian narrative on the guy.

Can you go into a bit more detail? This is incredibly vague

Caution999 posted...
Trump hasn't obstructed justice.

Firing the guy investigating you and later saying it was because you wanted said investigation to end seems like a pretty good case for obstruction of justice.
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Antifar
05/26/17 9:51:04 AM
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GuyCarlPeterson posted...
You can't just get the facts.

Even "just the facts" can be (and is!) biased. People with biases choose which facts are worth including, and in which order.
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Annihilated
05/26/17 9:52:37 AM
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Doom_Art posted...

A quagmire war in some shit hole country based on faulty intelligence was not "overblown"


Yes it was, because A) the media reported on it every goddamn day, and B) we will be seeing the gains from that war sometime in the future by having another middle east ally, especially with Saddam out o the way. This has been the case with virtually every war the U.S. has fought in.

Doom_Art posted...
Whether it was coming or not, his economic policies didn't help.

And whether it had nothing to do with him or not is irrelevant. People always blame the president for economic gains or woes.


No economic policy could have helped, but Bush's were absolutely fantastic for the economy. Thanks to his tax cuts the unemployment rate during his term was lower than it's been to date. Then of course Obama takes office and my paycheck almost immediately goes down.

Doom_Art posted...
You can certainly make a case to blame him for the horrid response to the aforementioned hurricane


If you don't blame the mayor of New Orleans for not telling the city to evacuate until a day before the hurricane happened, why the hell would you blame the president for not having recovery aid immediately available for thousands of people? Sounds like you just listen to Kanye West too much.
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Iodine
05/26/17 9:53:01 AM
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Trump supporters are amazingly delusional.
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davyheinz
05/26/17 9:57:40 AM
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Iodine posted...
Trump supporters are amazingly delusional.

This. Why even bother talking to them?
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CableZL
05/26/17 9:58:03 AM
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Annihilated posted...
No economic policy could have helped, but Bush's were absolutely fantastic for the economy. Thanks to his tax cuts the unemployment rate during his term was lower than it's been to date. Then of course Obama takes office and my paycheck almost immediately goes down.


So you blame your paycheck going down on Obama taking office and not the recession that was going on at the time?
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Doom_Art
05/26/17 9:58:49 AM
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Annihilated posted...
Yes it was, because A) the media reported on it every goddamn day, and B) we will be seeing the gains from that war sometime in the future by having another middle east ally, especially with Saddam out o the way. This has been the case with virtually every war the U.S. has fought in.

A) The media is supposed to report on big/important events. At the time it was the largest conflict the US was involved in in nearly a generation.

B) The only thing we gained from that war so far was ISIS

Annihilated posted...
No economic policy could have helped, but Bush's were absolutely fantastic for the economy. Thanks to his tax cuts the unemployment rate during his term was lower than it's been to date. Then of course Obama takes office and my paycheck almost immediately goes down.

And as I said, it's irrelevant whether he helped or not. The downturn happened on his watch and therefore most people blamed him. And unfortunately the American public doesn't use your paycheck as a gauge for their economic well-being

Annihilated posted...
If you don't blame the mayor of New Orleans for not telling the city to evacuate until a day before the hurricane happened, why the hell would you blame the president for not having recovery aid immediately available for thousands of people? Sounds like you just listen to Kanye West too much.

Again, I'm just saying that the federal response was rather bungled. That's how most people see it.
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GuyCarlPeterson
05/26/17 10:00:14 AM
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I wouldn't waste my time with DA if I were you. If arguing on the internet is pointless then arguing with DA is the Babe Ruth of it.
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Phantom_Nook
05/26/17 10:01:28 AM
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What positive things that Trump has done do you believe haven't been covered?
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Hexenherz
05/26/17 10:02:22 AM
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DifferentialEquation posted...
The media is biased and refuses to report on the good things that Trump and his administration are doing. Trump has been saying this the whole time and he's 100% right.

Hard to report on something that isn't there just saying.
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