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Bio1590
05/21/17 12:54:47 AM
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I'm strongly leaning towards cancelling my preorder.

Even on PC the game sounds like it's gonna be a shitfest.
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TheMarthKoopa
05/21/17 12:56:23 AM
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I watched a video of some PVP and saw it was only 4v4

Soon shooter games are going to be 1v1 if things keep going backwards like this
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Bio1590
05/21/17 12:58:20 AM
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Like they're still not even doing Dedicated Servers. Even on PC.

Like what the actual fuck.
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gamepimp12
05/21/17 12:58:27 AM
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Bio1590 posted...
I'm strongly leaning towards cancelling my preorder.

Even on PC the game sounds like it's gonna be a shitfest.


What they say now ?

Right now I feel Ike everything's an improvement but not necessarily in the direction I wanted it to go
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gamepimp12
05/21/17 1:00:31 AM
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From my understanding a lot of those questionable spec choices came from maxing out the PS4
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Cookie Bag
05/21/17 1:04:11 AM
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If not dedicated servers mean peer2peer connections then i just can't get the game then because p2p and my internet don't get well, being from south america and all.
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gamepimp12
05/21/17 1:06:08 AM
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ClunkerSlim posted...
But bro, there's totally new emote dances. Did you not see the new emote dances? This is a totally different game bro. I mean bro, they rearranged the weapon slots. What more do you want?


Now I don't get these complaints

Like I get not being happy about the specs

*But being upset a sequal has the same core looks and gameplay ?
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gamepimp12
05/21/17 1:12:16 AM
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Yeah forgot a word so I went back and editing the whole thing.

Like I have 100 days in destiny 1 and I'm not necessarily happy with how destiny 2 is shaping out

But "it kinda looks and plays like the old destiny" isn't among them, like it's a sequel what do you expect
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littlebro07
05/21/17 1:16:01 AM
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Bio1590 posted...
Like they're still not even doing Dedicated Servers. Even on PC.

Like what the actual fuck.


lol what

Why the hell not? It's Activision for fucks sake, they can afford dedicated servers for one of their most popular IPs.
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Bio1590
05/21/17 1:18:22 AM
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littlebro07 posted...
Bio1590 posted...
Like they're still not even doing Dedicated Servers. Even on PC.

Like what the actual fuck.


lol what

Why the hell not? It's Activision for fucks sake, they can afford dedicated servers for one of their most popular IPs.

They decided it wasn't a priority for D2 even though people have been asking for them since it was announced D1 didn't have them.
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gamepimp12
05/21/17 1:19:02 AM
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littlebro07 posted...
Bio1590 posted...
Like they're still not even doing Dedicated Servers. Even on PC.

Like what the actual fuck.


lol what

Why the hell not? It's Activision for fucks sake, they can afford dedicated servers for one of their most popular IPs.


I think the exact reason was PS4 couldn't handle 6 people plus ads and whatever else's was going on
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Bio1590
05/21/17 1:19:52 AM
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Cookie Bag posted...
If not dedicated servers mean peer2peer connections then i just can't get the game then because p2p and my internet don't get well, being from south america and all.

Yep. I'm in Canada and even I struggle with their P2P nonsense.
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gamepimp12
05/21/17 1:35:02 AM
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gamepimp12 posted...
littlebro07 posted...
Bio1590 posted...
Like they're still not even doing Dedicated Servers. Even on PC.

Like what the actual fuck.


lol what

Why the hell not? It's Activision for fucks sake, they can afford dedicated servers for one of their most popular IPs.


I think the exact reason was PS4 couldn't handle 6 people plus ads and whatever else's was going on


Yeah looked again and that's why it's not 60 fps

They didn't give a detailed reason towards servers though they seemed to allude to something
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Shotgunnova
05/21/17 2:14:51 AM
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At least this is good news:
https://www.polygon.com/2017/5/19/15663376/destiny-2-matchmaking-raids-guided-games-preview-bungie

But anyway, Bungie dumbing down the first-year inventory for everyone royally pissed me off, so it'd take a minor miracle for me to jump back on the Destiny train. Shame, because Red Death was my best friend.
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apocalyptic_4
05/21/17 2:24:03 AM
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gamepimp12 posted...
ClunkerSlim posted...
But bro, there's totally new emote dances. Did you not see the new emote dances? This is a totally different game bro. I mean bro, they rearranged the weapon slots. What more do you want?


Now I don't get these complaints

Like I get not being happy about the specs

*But being upset a sequal has the same core looks and gameplay ?


I honestly thought they were going to completely rework the game to make it play more like a MMO with more subclasses and actual roles.

Instead we get something that looks like DLC meant for destiny 1. Really disappointed they took the lazy route.
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Dash_Harber
05/21/17 2:49:37 AM
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I will probably enjoy it, but I expect pretty much nothing. It looks like an overblown expansion to Destiny, and I'm always on board with that.

The whole 'your character will carry over thing' is going to be a shit show, though. If they keep old classes, everyone will complain it's a retread. If they add new classes, the old classes will either be pointless or the new ones will have to be weaker. They have balance problems enough as is, and I don't see any way to incentivize the new content without making the old content hacky. The worst part is that we all know they are just going to wipe our characters and give us a shiny new shader to show we are 'veterans'.
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gamepimp12
05/21/17 3:26:45 AM
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apocalyptic_4 posted...
gamepimp12 posted...
ClunkerSlim posted...
But bro, there's totally new emote dances. Did you not see the new emote dances? This is a totally different game bro. I mean bro, they rearranged the weapon slots. What more do you want?


Now I don't get these complaints

Like I get not being happy about the specs

*But being upset a sequal has the same core looks and gameplay ?


I honestly thought they were going to completely rework the game to make it play more like a MMO with more subclasses and actual roles.

Instead we get something that looks like DLC meant for destiny 1. Really disappointed they took the lazy route.


Because of the 3 man squads it was never gonna go full on mmo

It'll have plenty features but gameplay will always be rooted in gunplay
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Dash_Harber
05/21/17 3:27:58 AM
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Also I'm super happy we are getting some sort of pseudo-matchmaking for Raids.
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pegusus123456
05/21/17 5:01:30 AM
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giantblimpN7
05/21/17 5:10:59 AM
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Seems like it's just more Destiny, not improved, no lessons learned from the first game, just more Destiny. So if you like Destiny, good news, if you didn't or are like me and got tired of it, just continue to ignore it.
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weapon_d00d816
05/21/17 10:36:17 AM
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apocalyptic_4 posted...
gamepimp12 posted...
ClunkerSlim posted...
But bro, there's totally new emote dances. Did you not see the new emote dances? This is a totally different game bro. I mean bro, they rearranged the weapon slots. What more do you want?


Now I don't get these complaints

Like I get not being happy about the specs

*But being upset a sequal has the same core looks and gameplay ?


I honestly thought they were going to completely rework the game to make it play more like a MMO with more subclasses and actual roles.

Instead we get something that looks like DLC meant for destiny 1. Really disappointed they took the lazy route.

That'll be for Destiny 3.

They don't want to make the middle game have the longest lifespan.
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weapon_d00d816
05/21/17 10:40:38 AM
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Spooking posted...
TheMarthKoopa posted...
I watched a video of some PVP and saw it was only 4v4

Soon shooter games are going to be 1v1 if things keep going backwards like this

Yeah, what is this about? Back in 2002 or so a game called Delta Force: Land Warrior had 32vs32 TDM for awhile until the game started to die and they moved it down to 16vs16.

Well considering the PvP is Destiny-flavored Halo, 4v4 is pretty standard. Not every game needs as many players on a team as possible.

Though Halo has a variety of team sizes.
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TheMarthKoopa
05/21/17 11:19:24 AM
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Spooking posted...
TheMarthKoopa posted...
I watched a video of some PVP and saw it was only 4v4

Soon shooter games are going to be 1v1 if things keep going backwards like this

Yeah, what is this about? Back in 2002 or so a game called Delta Force: Land Warrior had 32vs32 TDM for awhile until the game started to die and they moved it down to 16vs16.

PlanetSide in 2003 had MMO sized worlds with 133vs133vs133 on a single map
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green butter
05/21/17 11:25:14 AM
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Tinfoil hat: bungie is making destiny 2 underwhelming because they don't want to rework the whole game , since destiny 3 will be one of the big launch/launch window titles for the PS5 in 2019/2020, and destiny 3 will be a huge overhaul
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Hexenherz
05/21/17 11:41:55 AM
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pegusus123456 posted...
Isn't this an MMO?

How do you do an MMO without servers?


I don't think you can classify it at this point as an MMO.
Most things people call MMOs aren't, anyway.
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Bio1590
05/21/17 11:56:26 AM
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TheMarthKoopa posted...
Spooking posted...
TheMarthKoopa posted...
I watched a video of some PVP and saw it was only 4v4

Soon shooter games are going to be 1v1 if things keep going backwards like this

Yeah, what is this about? Back in 2002 or so a game called Delta Force: Land Warrior had 32vs32 TDM for awhile until the game started to die and they moved it down to 16vs16.

PlanetSide in 2003 had MMO sized worlds with 133vs133vs133 on a single map

MAG on the PS3 had 256 players in 2010 with dedicated servers.

Literally better than Destiny.

Though MW2 didn't have dedicated servers so it's not like Activision doesn't have a history of this.
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ManSpread
05/21/17 11:58:41 AM
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TheMarthKoopa posted...
I watched a video of some PVP and saw it was only 4v4

Soon shooter games are going to be 1v1 if things keep going backwards like this

one of the greatest and highest skillcap shooters of all time is 1v1

what the fuck are you even on

why are your opinions always so shitty
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ManSpread
05/21/17 11:59:39 AM
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weapon_d00d816 posted...
apocalyptic_4 posted...
gamepimp12 posted...
ClunkerSlim posted...
But bro, there's totally new emote dances. Did you not see the new emote dances? This is a totally different game bro. I mean bro, they rearranged the weapon slots. What more do you want?


Now I don't get these complaints

Like I get not being happy about the specs

*But being upset a sequal has the same core looks and gameplay ?


I honestly thought they were going to completely rework the game to make it play more like a MMO with more subclasses and actual roles.

Instead we get something that looks like DLC meant for destiny 1. Really disappointed they took the lazy route.

That'll be for Destiny 3.

They don't want to make the middle game have the longest lifespan.

borderlands 2
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AlternativeFAQS
05/21/17 12:05:10 PM
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ManSpread posted...
borderlands 2

i didnt realize BL3 came out
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TheMarthKoopa
05/21/17 12:14:10 PM
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ManSpread posted...
one of the greatest and highest skillcap shooters of all time is 1v1

what the fuck are you even on

why are your opinions always so shitty

A 1v1 shooter cannot possibly be good
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ManSpread
05/21/17 2:58:34 PM
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AlternativeFAQS posted...
ManSpread posted...
borderlands 2

i didnt realize BL3 came out

pre sequel

TheMarthKoopa posted...
ManSpread posted...
one of the greatest and highest skillcap shooters of all time is 1v1

what the fuck are you even on

why are your opinions always so shitty

A 1v1 shooter cannot possibly be good

CPMA
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Dash_Harber
05/22/17 2:33:51 AM
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ClunkerSlim posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
I will probably enjoy it, but I expect pretty much nothing. It looks like an overblown expansion to Destiny, and I'm always on board with that.

The whole 'your character will carry over thing' is going to be a shit show, though. If they keep old classes, everyone will complain it's a retread. If they add new classes, the old classes will either be pointless or the new ones will have to be weaker. They have balance problems enough as is, and I don't see any way to incentivize the new content without making the old content hacky. The worst part is that we all know they are just going to wipe our characters and give us a shiny new shader to show we are 'veterans'.

@Dash_Harber Nothing carries over. Nothing (except your character looks). I don't even think Grimoire scores carry over. They said awhile ago that nothing from Destiny 1 will carry over to Destiny 2. The "story" reason is that the tower is destroyed and you lose all your stuff.


Yeah, I figured, I just remember that people were arguing before that Destiny 2 was going to let you carry over your skills and weapons. I thought it was crazy then and I'm glad I was proven right.
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Samurontai
05/22/17 2:40:48 AM
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ClunkerSlim posted...
But bro, there's totally new emote dances. Did you not see the new emote dances? This is a totally different game bro. I mean bro, they rearranged the weapon slots. What more do you want?


Holy shit, a game that is a sequel to another game is going to look and handle like it's prequel? That's never been done before (except for the almost every single instance it was done in regards to prequels/sequels).

This is the dumbest thing to gripe about the game honestly. Like there's so many things to be upset about, that actually make sense, and you choose this.

Lol
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Darmik
05/22/17 2:44:42 AM
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Dash_Harber posted...
Yeah, I figured, I just remember that people were arguing before that Destiny 2 was going to let you carry over your skills and weapons. I thought it was crazy then and I'm glad I was proven right.


I think that was the original intention. I remember they were pushing a whole 10 year lifespan for your character before 1 came out.

Things have changed a lot since then obviously. Hell I think Destiny 2 was supposed to be last yeat.
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gamepimp12
05/22/17 2:47:29 AM
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Darmik posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
Yeah, I figured, I just remember that people were arguing before that Destiny 2 was going to let you carry over your skills and weapons. I thought it was crazy then and I'm glad I was proven right.


I think that was the original intention. I remember they were pushing a whole 10 year lifespan for your character before 1 came out.

Things have changed a lot since then obviously. Hell I think Destiny 2 was supposed to be last yeat.


They only promised character, though they did imply the other stuff would carry over too
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Dash_Harber
05/22/17 2:51:43 AM
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gamepimp12 posted...
Darmik posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
Yeah, I figured, I just remember that people were arguing before that Destiny 2 was going to let you carry over your skills and weapons. I thought it was crazy then and I'm glad I was proven right.


I think that was the original intention. I remember they were pushing a whole 10 year lifespan for your character before 1 came out.

Things have changed a lot since then obviously. Hell I think Destiny 2 was supposed to be last yeat.


They only promised character, though they did imply the other stuff would carry over too


Also, anyone who believed that is crazy. The whole ten year plan was crazy in the first place. Technology doesn't advance quickly enough, and even if it did, it would reach CoD levels of sequelitis.
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Bio1590
05/22/17 2:53:15 AM
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So I figure I'll keep my preorder until at least the Beta comes out then make the decision after like any normal person would >_>
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Xerun
05/22/17 3:49:30 AM
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I'll wait and see how the games goes upon release. Destiny felt like it had great potential and then lost it all.
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