Board 8 > 2001 has only 53% of the vote so far!?

(+) Yeah! (+)

The 46% are CRAZY.

2001 is an incredible year in gaming. The final has to be between 1998 and 2001.

Just look at this list:

http://www.metacritic.com/browse/games/score/metascore/year/all/filtered?year_selected=2001

Come on, people.

I guess you're not the Ace of Contests
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Deus Ex was 2000. Wrong year.

It is happening again.
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Kinda stupid that Command and Conquer made the cut to be in the image but Warcraft II didn't.
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Add in Metal Gear Solid 2 or Devil May Cry in place of Silent Hill 2 and I think it widens the gap a bit more.

MGS2 and/or DMC needs to be represented IMO for 2001 to have a chance in the next rounds.

Melee and FFX are great. But these could give it the edge.

It's kind of insane that 2007 isn't still on this list too. This place is a hub for 90s JRPG fanboys. I didn't realize it because I mainly stay in a few message boards that doesn't have many of those supporters.

2007 is the worst year in gaming history
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Metal_DK posted...

2007 is the worst year in gaming history

Maybe to a few who still wish games stopped evolving at the PSone era.

Maybe to a lot who wish gaming was still good
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wildstrike1516 posted...

This place is a hub for 90s JRPG fanboys. I didn't realize it because I mainly stay in a few message boards that doesn't have many of those supporters.

"Veteran User Since: Jun 2005"

you were here to see:
Sephiroth win Villains
Link win Characters
Zelda beat FF in the finals of series with the most votes ever on gamefaqs
ocarina of time win best game ever
majora's mask win Game of the 2000s

but yes the site is for 90s RPG fans, a surprise.

Metal_DK posted...

Maybe to a lot who wish gaming was still good

Gaming is still good.

FFX sucks though

And 95 has the ultimate DKC2.
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STElNER posted...

wildstrike1516 posted...

This place is a hub for 90s JRPG fanboys. I didn't realize it because I mainly stay in a few message boards that doesn't have many of those supporters.

"Veteran User Since: Jun 2005"

you were here to see:
Sephiroth win Villains
Link win Characters
Zelda beat FF in the finals of series with the most votes ever on gamefaqs
ocarina of time win best game ever
majora's mask win Game of the 2000s

but yes the site is for 90s RPG fans, a surprise.

Because I haven't really paid attention to the polls over a long period of time before now. So yeah it's a surprise.

wildstrike1516 posted...

Metal_DK posted...

Maybe to a lot who wish gaming was still good

Gaming is still good.

hasnt been since 2007
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there are a shitload of other websites that enjoy and play modern games. they have no need to come to gamefaqs dot com. they are catered to everywhere else on the internet, between youtube and twitch and reddit and 4chan and anywhere else you can talk about games. this is primarily a website for text based walkthroughs and the video games they are useful for - and a site that was built off the success of and desire for walkthroughs for final fantasy vii. i will never understand how this is a difficult concept for people.

STElNER posted...

there are a shitload of other websites that enjoy and play modern games. they have no need to come to gamefaqs dot com. they are catered to everywhere else on the internet, between youtube and twitch and reddit and 4chan and anywhere else you can talk about games. this is primarily a website for text based walkthroughs and the video games they are useful for - and a site that was built off the success of and desire for walkthroughs for final fantasy vii. i will never understand how this is a difficult concept for people.

I have used gamefaqs for 20 years for FAQs. I mainly dabble in just the game I'm playing and the board for that game. Is it such a hard concept to understand that someone using this site for that purpose and not the bigger meta of the core community is surprised to discover everyone one this website hates games since the PSone era? There is a reason I have been a member since 2005 and only a veteran level. I haven't posted much in the forums.

Metal_DK posted...

wildstrike1516 posted...

Metal_DK posted...

Maybe to a lot who wish gaming was still good

Gaming is still good.

hasnt been since 2007

I'm curious to know why you have hated games since 2007? Why do you see it like this?

wildstrike1516 posted...

Is it such a hard concept to understand that someone using this site for that purpose and not the bigger meta of the core community is surprised to discover everyone one this website hates games since the PSone era?

it's not a hard concept - i understand it entirely. at this point i'm trying to rationalize it for you, although it seems like the data to learn this yourself is already out there and prevalent.

It shouldnt be surprising. Console gaming peaked in the 90s and early 00s. By 2007 it became a joke.
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STElNER posted...

wildstrike1516 posted...

Is it such a hard concept to understand that someone using this site for that purpose and not the bigger meta of the core community is surprised to discover everyone one this website hates games since the PSone era?

it's not a hard concept - i understand it entirely. at this point i'm trying to rationalize it for you, although it seems like the data to learn this yourself is already out there and prevalent.

I'm not going to sift through hours of data when I can just asks someone directly.

Metal_DK posted...

It shouldnt be surprising. Console gaming peaked in the 90s and early 00s. By 2007 it became a joke.

Why is it a joke now?

oh okay well you asked directly i answered directly

another topic handled successfully!

here's a poll that sums up gamefaqs for you if you still don't get it:
https://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/6574-best-of-2016-game-of-the-year

STElNER posted...

here's a poll that sums up gamefaqs for you if you still don't get it:
https://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/6574-best-of-2016-game-of-the-year

Yeah I get it. Thanks.

Metal_DK posted...

Maybe to a lot who wish gaming was still good

07 was very good. I think you need to be out in a time machine and taken back to the 90's
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sounds great to me!
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Yuri_LowelI posted...

Metal_DK posted...

Maybe to a lot who wish gaming was still good

07 was very good. I think you need to be out in a time machine and taken back to the 90's

07 started the mess we are in today, so nah. Dont need a bunch of AAA shooters and "open world games to change my soul" or indie titles that are fun in 20 minute bursts
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Tales of Vesperia, a 2008 game, is one of my favorite games of all time. Games continue to innovate; the industry didn't "die" in 2007.

never said it died, i said it went to shit. Which it did. One game (that came out very early in the timeframe i mentioned btw) doesn't justify much. I like Path of Exile, a fairly new game, for example.
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Metal_DK posted...

Yuri_LowelI posted...

Metal_DK posted...

Maybe to a lot who wish gaming was still good

07 was very good. I think you need to be out in a time machine and taken back to the 90's

07 started the mess we are in today, so nah. Dont need a bunch of AAA shooters and "open world games to change my soul" or indie titles that are fun in 20 minute bursts

You're in a mess today. Not us. So yeah you should go back.

There's been a ton of great games released between 07 and now. Just because you don't like them doesn't mean it's bad.
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STElNER posted...

here's a poll that sums up gamefaqs for you if you still don't get it:
https://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/6574-best-of-2016-game-of-the-year

Yikes!

Yuri_LowelI posted...

You're in a mess today. Not us. So yeah you should go back.

There's been a ton of great games released between 07 and now. Just because you don't like them doesn't mean it's bad.

There have been some. The industry clearly went to shit in the mid 00s.
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Metal_DK posted...

wildstrike1516 posted...

Metal_DK posted...

Maybe to a lot who wish gaming was still good

Gaming is still good.

hasnt been since 2007

Bloodborne says hello
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Metal_DK posted...

Yuri_LowelI posted...

You're in a mess today. Not us. So yeah you should go back.

There's been a ton of great games released between 07 and now. Just because you don't like them doesn't mean it's bad.

There have been some. The industry clearly went to shit in the mid 00s.

Again you keep make the same statement but can't give examples to explain why. I'm really curious? Shooters and 3rd person action games have been around since mid 90s.

I guess you're not The Ace of Contests
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Am I the only one who thought of Deus Ex vs Guitar Hero when I saw the thread title?

Metal, just do your rant about the Casual Revolution of 2007. The contestites deserve to see it.
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People constantly bringing up individual games as a reason for why gaming is "still" good is all a product of the Casual Revolution of 2007. Due to social media and the centralized internet, gaming (like most other things) are in massive episodic waves of what the world is buzzing about. "OMG have you played Bloodborne!" in a few months becomes "OMG have you played Witcher 3!", with a couple of fun but primitive indie titles sandwiched in between.

Before 2007 gaming was a cohesive unit. You played games. There were consoles, PC games, genres were well represented on a year to year basis. One month you were playing a 13 year old game, the next month it was a brand new game. You didnt care about needing to be in the current episode/flavor of the half year AAA big budget cinematic shit, you just gamed. Now people dont play video games anymore for the sake of playing. They do it because they want to feel like they are in the current episode of what the centralized internet has a dumb hard on for. Nobody will give a fuck about Tales of Vesperia in 5 years. Hell nobody does already. The Last of Us? Already pretty much forgotten and everyone has moved on. This is why gaming is shit since 2007, and why the centralized internet is fucking stupid and ruining us all. Fuck the Casual Revolution of 2007.
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we can go deeper

azuarc posted...

Am I the only one who thought of Deus Ex vs Guitar Hero when I saw the thread title?

I did
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Metal_DK posted...

People constantly bringing up individual games as a reason for why gaming is "still" good is all a product of the Casual Revolution of 2007. Due to social media and the centralized internet, gaming (like most other things) are in massive episodic waves of what the world is buzzing about. "OMG have you played Bloodborne!" in a few months becomes "OMG have you played Witcher 3!", with a couple of fun but primitive indie titles sandwiched in between.

Before 2007 gaming was a cohesive unit. You played games. There were consoles, PC games, genres were well represented on a year to year basis. One month you were playing a 13 year old game, the next month it was a brand new game. You didnt care about needing to be in the current episode/flavor of the half year AAA big budget cinematic shit, you just gamed. Now people dont play video games anymore for the sake of playing. They do it because they want to feel like they are in the current episode of what the centralized internet has a dumb hard on for. Nobody will give a fuck about Tales of Vesperia in 5 years. Hell nobody does already. The Last of Us? Already pretty much forgotten and everyone has moved on. This is why gaming is shit since 2007, and why the centralized internet is fucking stupid and ruining us all. Fuck the Casual Revolution of 2007.

Ha I am in agreement Social Media is destroying our lives and people are caught up too much keeping up with the Jones. I wouldn't say games suck now but the media covering it sucks. Everyone has allowed themselves to get caught up in the marketing machine and allow the newest and hype to dominate substance.

I could care less if people forget The Last of Us because I won't, that game was an incredible storytelling experience.

1995:

Yoshi
Command and Conquer
Chrono
Earthbound
Warcraft 2
Dragon Warrior IV
Front Mission
Tactics Ogre
Tales of Phantasia
Breath of Fire II

2001:

A Few decent titles - nothing outstanding.

wildstrike1516 posted...

game was an incredible storytelling experience.

That right there sums up the Casual Revolution of 2007. If I have to hear about how a game is a "thought provoking experience to change my life" crap.
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2001:
Final Fantasy X
Super Smash Bros Melee
Halo
Grand Theft Auto III
Metal Gear Solid 2
Devil May Cry
Paper Mario

1995:
A Few decent titles - nothing outstanding.

wow now my opinion is fact too

I do wish when people start listing games they go over board like...

I can't believe people are voting this

Ace Combat 04: Shattered Skies
Advance Wars
Animal Crossing
ATV Offroad Fury
Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance
Bejeweled
Black & White
Castlevania: Circle of the Moon
Civilization III
Commandos 2: Men Of Courage
Conker's Bad Fur Day
Dark Age of Camelot
Devil May Cry
Final Fantasy X
Freak Out
Frequency
Gitaroo Man
Golden Sun
Gran Turismo 3: A-Spec
Grand Theft Auto III
Halo: Combat Evolved
ICO
Ikaruga
IL-2 Sturmovik
Jak and Daxter: The Precursor Legacy
Luigi's Mansion
Madden NFL 2002
Mario Kart: Super Circuit
Mario Party 3
Max Payne
Maximo: Ghosts To Glory
Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty
NCAA Football 2002
NHL 2002
Operation Flashpoint: Cold War Crisis
Pikmin
Red Faction
Return To Castle Wolfenstein
Rez
Ridge Racer V
Runescape
Serious Sam: The First Encounter
Shenmue II
Silent Hill 2
Sonic Adventure 2
SSX Tricky
Star Wars Rogue Squadron II: Rogue Leader
StarTopia
Super Smash Bros. Melee
Tennis 2K2
The Legend Of Zelda: Oracle Of Seasons/Ages
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3
Tribes 2
Twisted Metal: Black
Uplink
Virtua Fighter 4
Wario Land 4
Wizardry 8

over this

Alien Soldier
Area 51
BioForge
Chrono Trigger
Comix Zone
Command & Conquer
Crusader No Remorse
Descent
Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest
Full Throttle
Gex
Lunar: Eternal Blue
Marathon 2: Durandal
MechWarrior 2: 31st Century Combat
Metal Warriors
Panzer Dragoon
Rayman
Return Fire
Ristar
Secret of Evermore
Sega Rally Championship
Seiken Densetsu 3
Soul Edge
Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island
Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together
Terranigma
The Beast Within: A Gabriel Knight Adventure
The Dig
The Logical Journey of the Zoombinis
Twisted Metal
Vectorman
Virtua Cop 2
WarCraft II: Tides of Darkness
Wing Commander IV
Wipeout
Worms (original)

Note: Some may not have been released in 1995 or 2001 in North America
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i got 98 and 01 in the final, but 95 should've won.
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Bluntlicious posted...

i got 98 and 01 in the final, but 95 should've won.

Are you Steiner?
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It's all bias and opinion. It's all preference. Youngin's will most likely vote halo or Smash bros all day while the older of us will vote for the classics, since it's what we grew up with.
while 95 has alot more good titles in my opinion. there are a few select titles in 2001 worthy of note, such as Silent Hill 2 & RTCW

But the RPG lineup of 95, for me, can't be beat. The introduction of RTS games to the public with the more readily accessible Command & Conquer, over the more obscure (at the time, at least in my region, until it picked up in popularity quite some time later) WarCraft 2.

And the amount of black sheep in each lineup is heavily in '95s favor. FF X is one of my least liked FF titles for one, and I grew out of the nintendo fanbase by that time and couldn't be bothered by all it's weirdness. Not as an edge lord late teen at the time anyway, so a lot of game cube stuff is wasted for me. like pikmin and Mario party.
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Gaming didn't die or whatever or decline with 2007. There's stuff for everyone still. You have your mainstays, you have a bunch of sweet online games, and you have an explosion of indie devs churning out fantastic stuff. I mean shit, Bastion, FTL, Hotline Miami, Risk of Rain, Dustforce and The Swapper are easily in my top 20 or whatever favorite games ever but I know full well not to expect widespread representation. There are always going to be good games even if there is a crazh which decimates big companies.
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