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Mead
05/15/17 6:17:47 PM
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-revealed-highly-classified-information-to-russian-foreign-minister-and-ambassador/2017/05/15/530c172a-3960-11e7-9e48-c4f199710b69_story.html?utm_term=.7ed314af9040

Time will tell if this story is accurate, but

The Washington Post is withholding most plot details, including the name of the city, at the urging of officials who warned that revealing them would jeopardize important intelligence capabilities.

makes me think there is actual evidence that he did this
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05/15/17 6:21:34 PM
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Mead
05/15/17 6:30:09 PM
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I know everyone is tired of hearing about Trump crap, but if this is true it is alarming to say the least

This is information that the US had not even chosen to share with allies
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Doctor Foxx
05/15/17 6:34:40 PM
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Given that Trump seems to speak without filter and doesn't distinguish between classified and unclassified information I would not find this to be surprising.
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FrndNhbrHdCEman
05/15/17 6:36:28 PM
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Doctor Foxx posted...
Given that Trump seems to speak without filter and doesn't distinguish between classified and unclassified information I would not find this to be surprising.

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Doctor Foxx
05/15/17 6:41:14 PM
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Also worth a read: http://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/15/donald-trump-fake-news-238379

I believe he also doesn't know how to tell between truth and fiction, which makes more sense with all of the weird shit he has gone on about.
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Mead
05/15/17 6:50:22 PM
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Doctor Foxx posted...
Also worth a read: http://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/15/donald-trump-fake-news-238379

I believe he also doesn't know how to tell between truth and fiction, which makes more sense with all of the weird shit he has gone on about.


Staff chased down the truth and intervened before Trump tweeted or talked publicly about it.


Oh dear I can actually imagine someone snatching his phone away
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RedPixel
05/15/17 7:04:45 PM
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If he did that, that's pretty fucking dumb, but I'd take it with a grain of salt at this point-- Washington Post is a notorious liberal news source, and they have it out for Trump if he sneezes.

Journalism is dead.
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Doctor Foxx
05/15/17 7:04:47 PM
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Twitter lol

oafiMHQ
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KevinceKostner
05/15/17 7:07:20 PM
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I need Zeus to reassure me this stuff isn't true or Obama did worse
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RCtheWSBC
05/15/17 7:10:37 PM
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Doctor Foxx posted...
Twitter lol

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Daily Show went in.
https://twitter.com/TheDailyShow/status/864244723464253440
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Doctor Foxx
05/15/17 7:31:56 PM
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RCtheWSBC posted...

Daily Show went in.
https://twitter.com/TheDailyShow/status/864244723464253440

Oh boy haha

I wonder what Trump will tweet about all of this
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knivesX2004
05/15/17 7:36:53 PM
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Doctor Foxx posted...
I wonder what Trump will tweet about all of this

The same thing he tweets every night pinkie.
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SushiSquid
05/15/17 7:38:06 PM
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RedPixel posted...
... I'd take it with a grain of salt at this point-- Washington Post is a notorious liberal news source...

They do have a clear bias. But they don't lie. This is a serious issue and they wouldn't report it without pretty good evidence.
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Hercular1
05/15/17 7:56:22 PM
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SushiSquid posted...
RedPixel posted...
... I'd take it with a grain of salt at this point-- Washington Post is a notorious liberal news source...

They do have a clear bias. But they don't lie. This is a serious issue and they wouldn't report it without pretty good evidence.


I really don't understand how anyone can believe anything at this point. The left is foaming at the mouth, and will use any source, verified or not, just to try to impeach Trump.

Journalism is truly dead at this point.
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MICHALECOLE
05/15/17 8:16:31 PM
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Hercular1 posted...
SushiSquid posted...
RedPixel posted...
... I'd take it with a grain of salt at this point-- Washington Post is a notorious liberal news source...

They do have a clear bias. But they don't lie. This is a serious issue and they wouldn't report it without pretty good evidence.


I really don't understand how anyone can believe anything at this point. The left is foaming at the mouth, and will use any source, verified or not, just to try to impeach Trump.

Journalism is truly dead at this point.

Yeah it's only the left that does this
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Lightning Bolt
05/15/17 8:19:56 PM
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It's not only the left. It's just the left's turn.
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Sensual_T_Rex
05/15/17 8:36:47 PM
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If true it's definitely is disturbing. However it's also not technically illegal for the president to do. It is however a really stupid thing for him to do.
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Zeus
05/15/17 8:55:55 PM
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Mead posted...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-revealed-highly-classified-information-to-russian-foreign-minister-and-ambassador/2017/05/15/530c172a-3960-11e7-9e48-c4f199710b69_story.html?utm_term=.7ed314af9040

Time will tell if this story is accurate, but

The Washington Post is withholding most plot details, including the name of the city, at the urging of officials who warned that revealing them would jeopardize important intelligence capabilities.

makes me think there is actual evidence that he did this


LOL! It's the Washington Post, which didn't have a lot of credibility before Jeff Bezos took it over and went far worse afterward when it became a vehicle to attack Hillary's enemies. However, it would be hilarious if true and, since ISIS is against Russia as well, I'm not sure what potential damage could be a concern.

SushiSquid posted...
RedPixel posted...
... I'd take it with a grain of salt at this point-- Washington Post is a notorious liberal news source...

They do have a clear bias. But they don't lie. This is a serious issue and they wouldn't report it without pretty good evidence.


They do lie. The Washington Post has been forced to give back Pulitzer Prizes after it was revealed that their journalists made up entire stories. Their fact-checking department is as bad as the Rolling Stone's, so anything a journalist claims just goes through.

MICHALECOLE posted...
Hercular1 posted...
SushiSquid posted...
RedPixel posted...
... I'd take it with a grain of salt at this point-- Washington Post is a notorious liberal news source...

They do have a clear bias. But they don't lie. This is a serious issue and they wouldn't report it without pretty good evidence.


I really don't understand how anyone can believe anything at this point. The left is foaming at the mouth, and will use any source, verified or not, just to try to impeach Trump.

Journalism is truly dead at this point.

Yeah it's only the left that does this


It's only the left that people don't scrutinize. You have to rely on social media rather than conventional media for fact-checking there, such as when the Rolling Stone's rape story was debunked which was something that no media source bothered looking into and just reported verbatim.
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Mead
05/15/17 10:28:31 PM
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Thank goodness Zeus the liberal is here
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WastelandCowboy
05/15/17 10:37:18 PM
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Sort of waiting for Trump to blast Washington Times as "failing" and "fake news".
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jedirood
05/15/17 10:45:28 PM
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Leave it to Zeus to defend Trump no matter what.

*Donald Trump admits to murder*

"Nuh uh, he didn't say that. That's fake news from a biased source."
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knivesX2004
05/15/17 10:56:59 PM
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It's on NPR now so you need to step it up senpai.
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Zeus
05/15/17 11:06:31 PM
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Mead posted...
Thank goodness Zeus the liberal is here


Left-leaning centrist.



jedirood posted...
Leave it to Zeus to defend Trump no matter what.

*Donald Trump admits to murder*

"Nuh uh, he didn't say that. That's fake news from a biased source."


Because apparently an alleged second-hand account of information that may or may not have been transmitted from a publication with a clear bias against both of said parties directly correlates to an admission from a primary source.
Granted, if WaPo ran a story about Donald Trump confessing to murder, you would buy into that even when no evidence turned up about anybody being killed and everybody involved refused making any such statement.

knivesX2004 posted...
It's on NPR now so you need to step it up senpai.


Tried looking it up, found nothing and have to conclude you made the whole thing up. I did, however, find that the New York Post also ran a story.... which cited WaPo as its sole source. If CNN ran a story from The Other 98%, that story wouldn't magically become more valid simply by virtue of CNN running it if no extra legwork was performed. (EDIT: Oh, and apparently CNN has retweeted this story with, you guessed it, WaPo being the sole source for the claim!)
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Zeus
05/15/17 11:11:55 PM
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SkynyrdRocker posted...
Also, Zeus, Rolling Stone is the magazine. The Rolling Stones are the band. The Rolling Stone is nothing.


Oh, I thought it was referred to as the Rolling Stone, probably because Rolling Stone by itself sounds awkward.
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Mead
05/15/17 11:13:42 PM
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Time will tell Zeus. In the opening post I clearly point out that this is an unverified claim.

Yet you insist it isn't true because you don't like the outlet reporting the story, despite the fact that you have nothing more credible to dispute it. How many times have you been proven wrong about these issues in just the last few days alone?
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SkynyrdRocker
05/15/17 11:17:32 PM
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I want to talk about Rolling Stone though. I was at UVA when they wrote that rape story, and the frat got vandalized, people were furious. It was awk. One of my roommates was like "It's Rolling Stone. They aren't a legitimate news source." And he was right.
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Mead
05/15/17 11:19:42 PM
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Rolling Stone is more similar to Vice than anything else. They can get things wrong like anyone else though.
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jedirood
05/15/17 11:40:35 PM
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My point is, you immediately jump on the Trump defense, even if multiple sources say the opposite. You've been proven wrong before, but you're too full of pride to ever admit it.
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knivesX2004
05/16/17 12:08:14 AM
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Zeus posted...
Tried looking it up, found nothing and have to conclude you made the whole thing up.

Right here dude.
http://www.npr.org/2017/05/15/528511980/report-trump-gave-classified-information-to-russians-during-white-house-visit?
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Mead
05/16/17 12:24:06 AM
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You have to understand the the Zeus administration is in possession of alternative facts
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Mead
05/16/17 12:27:34 AM
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National Security Adviser H.R. McMaster told reporters outside the White House that the "story that came out tonight, as reported, is false."


Gee I wonder why he felt the need to word it that way
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TheWorstPoster
05/16/17 12:31:02 AM
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The "classified info" was banning laptops on planes going to and from cities in the Middle East.

You know, something to do with international security rather than something threatening?

But the media is playing this narrative to move away from the Seth Rich murder investigations. You know, the Seth Rich who was "mysteriously" murdered after he gave John Podesta's emails to Wikileaks and was planning on meeting with the FBI?
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Jen0125
05/16/17 12:35:30 AM
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FrndNhbrHdCEman
05/16/17 12:39:57 AM
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Hercular1 posted...
SushiSquid posted...
RedPixel posted...
... I'd take it with a grain of salt at this point-- Washington Post is a notorious liberal news source...

They do have a clear bias. But they don't lie. This is a serious issue and they wouldn't report it without pretty good evidence.


I really don't understand how anyone can believe anything at this point. The left is foaming at the mouth, and will use any source, verified or not, just to try to impeach Trump.

Journalism is truly dead at this point.

Lol Sup. Ya figured deletin your post killed the fact your trollin like a scrub?
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Hercular1
05/16/17 1:55:02 AM
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What are you on about?

It got moderated for calling people idiots.
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Mead
05/16/17 2:54:47 AM
#38:


Hercular1 posted...
What are you on about?

It got moderated for calling people idiots.


Zeus alt confirmed
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SushiSquid
05/16/17 7:54:41 AM
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Trump administration was denying this. Trump himself is now confirming it and defending his right to share classified information.

Yeah, he'll get impeached.
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FourthDimension
05/16/17 9:46:54 AM
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Mead posted...
Hercular1 posted...
What are you on about?

It got moderated for calling people idiots.


Zeus alt confirmed

That would be hilariously transparent, considering his username.
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Jiggy101011
05/16/17 10:12:45 AM
#41:


SushiSquid posted...
Trump administration was denying this. Trump himself is now confirming it and defending his right to share classified information.

Yeah, he'll get impeached.


Didn't it take like 2 years to impeach Nixon? Impeachment isn't a quick process.
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Zareth
05/16/17 11:03:54 AM
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It's really dumb that it was classified in the first place. If ISIS plans to use laptop bombs to attack the West, we should know so we can be careful around unattended laptops.
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Smarkil
05/16/17 11:11:45 AM
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Mead posted...
National Security Adviser H.R. McMaster told reporters outside the White House that the "story that came out tonight, as reported, is false."


Gee I wonder why he felt the need to word it that way


He had a lot more to say.

the president and the foreign minister reviewed a range of common threats to our two countries, including threats to civil aviation...at no time, at no time, were intelligence sources or methods discussed



And the president did not disclose any military operations that were not already publicly known...Two other senior officials who were present, including the secretary of state, remember the meeting the same way and have said so. And their on the record accounts should outweigh those of anonymous sources.


I was in the room, it didn't happen


http://www.cbsnews.com/news/national-security-adviser-mcmaster-denies-that-trump-gave-classified-info-to-russia/

I'm not saying he didn't leak shit, but with the amount of bullshit that's come out of the news lately, it's better to assume he didn't and wait for evidence than to assume he did.
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05/16/17 11:32:05 AM
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OhhhJa
05/16/17 12:05:13 PM
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Lmao... once again, it turns out the left's rabid desperation to find a scandal backfires in their face. Ffs you guys are way worse than the right was when Obama was in office and they were pretty fucking pathetic
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darkknight109
05/16/17 12:18:25 PM
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SushiSquid posted...
Trump administration was denying this. Trump himself is now confirming it and defending his right to share classified information.

And, strangely, all the conservatives who were screaming themselves breathless about what a shocking security breach Hilary Clinton's e-mail server was are nowhere to be found. It's almost like they don't think that literally revealing highly classified information to the Russians is a big deal as long as it's their guy doing it, but that would be grossly hypocritical of them, so I'm sure there's another explanation.

OhhhJa posted...
Lmao... once again, it turns out the left's rabid desperation to find a scandal backfires in their face.

Because Trump's now admitted to it? I mean, Paul Ryan is demanding an explanation for what happened and he's not exactly the most liberal guy in Washington.

The fact that Trump did nothing illegal - which has been acknowledged from the beginning - does not make this any less of a scandal.
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Mead
05/16/17 12:25:29 PM
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Once again he has made liars out of the people who work for him.
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Doctor Foxx
05/16/17 12:33:03 PM
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fPZ4DaQ

Looking for the leaks... Look in a mirror and look at the administration staff
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RedPixel
05/16/17 12:37:23 PM
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OhhhJa posted...
Lmao... once again, it turns out the left's rabid desperation to find a scandal backfires in their face. Ffs you guys are way worse than the right was when Obama was in office and they were pretty fucking pathetic

As a moderate/centrist, I'd have to agree with this. And the right attacked Obama pretty damn hard for some pretty stupid shit.

It's like the 4-8 yr war that constantly shifts tides between old-fashioned close-minded patriots vs a bunch of snowflakes who think they know things when they actually don't.
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RedPixel
05/16/17 12:42:36 PM
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I don't know why everyone disses Zeus here... he's a logical thinker who isn't biased toward a particular side. We need more people like that. If you disagree with someone on an issue, but they're acknowledging points from both sides, congrats-- you found a logical thinker who's capable of gathering evidence and formulating their own conclusion instead of spewing out other people's bullshit.

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FourthDimension
05/16/17 12:44:09 PM
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RedPixel posted...
who isn't biased toward a particular side.

Heh
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