Current Events > Concealed carry holder robbed at gunpoint, dishes out justice (video)

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Kirby
05/12/17 3:01:00 PM
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http://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/elmwood-park/news/ct-elm-elmwood-park-shootout-video-tl-0511-20170509-story.html

The suspect was fatally shot, but was able to run off before later collapsing and was found dead.
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AlephZero
05/12/17 3:02:21 PM
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gun control beards told me it's impossible for someone to protect themselves when robbed with a gun
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Anarchy_Juiblex
05/12/17 3:05:46 PM
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And the world was better off.
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VectorChaos
05/12/17 3:06:37 PM
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AlephZero posted...
gun control beards told me it's impossible for someone to protect themselves when robbed with a gun

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QuantumScript
05/12/17 3:12:23 PM
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VectorChaos posted...
AlephZero posted...
gun control beards told me it's impossible for someone to protect themselves when robbed with a gun


Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
And the world was better off.
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Capn Circus
05/12/17 3:13:47 PM
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AlephZero posted...
gun control beards told me it's impossible for someone to protect themselves when robbed with a gun


Yeah I remember that topic. Wasn't it @VipaGTS or someone else?
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QuantumScript
05/12/17 3:14:27 PM
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The streets of Chicago are safer now that one less thug is roaming them.
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eston
05/12/17 3:15:06 PM
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The story doesn't really indicate that a robbery was taking place, it says the aggressor made eye contact with the victim and then went to retrieve a gun from his car. Makes me wonder if these guys knew each other somehow
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Omega Hunter
05/12/17 3:17:13 PM
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AlephZero posted...
gun control beards told me it's impossible for someone to protect themselves when robbed with a gun


I love when a mass shooting happens and they say if some of the victims had a gun it would only have resulted in more death...they are rediulously blinded by ideology...and im a liberal.
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Giant_Aspirin
05/12/17 3:18:41 PM
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i like how the guy just fled the scene after he literally shot someone
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AlephZero
05/12/17 3:19:50 PM
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i was told that if regular citizens were allowed to carry firearms it would result in shootouts, dozens of innocents dying, and the police not knowing who is the good guy and who is the bad guy

none of that seemed to happen here, i wonder if i was misinformed
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QuantumScript
05/12/17 3:20:21 PM
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AlephZero posted...
i was told that if regular citizens were allowed to carry firearms it would result in shootouts, dozens of innocents dying, and the police not knowing who is the good guy and who is the bad guy

none of that seemed to happen here, i wonder if i was misinformed


stop listening to basement dwelling neck-beards that have never even held a gun
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Omega Hunter
05/12/17 3:21:02 PM
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AlephZero posted...
i was told that if regular citizens were allowed to carry firearms it would result in shootouts, dozens of innocents dying, and the police not knowing who is the good guy and who is the bad guy

none of that seemed to happen here, i wonder if i was misinformed


So much this.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
05/12/17 3:21:20 PM
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Giant_Aspirin posted...
i like how the guy just fled the scene after he literally shot someone


It's not like a car wreck, your life is still potentially in danger.
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CruelBuffalo
05/12/17 3:21:38 PM
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eston posted...
The story doesn't really indicate that a robbery was taking place, it says the aggressor made eye contact with the victim and then went to retrieve a gun from his car. Makes me wonder if these guys knew each other somehow
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Giant_Aspirin
05/12/17 3:21:50 PM
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AlephZero posted...
i was told that if regular citizens were allowed to carry firearms it would result in shootouts


that's exactly what happened here. there was a shootout between two regular citizens who were carrying firearms.
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Questionmarktarius
05/12/17 3:23:39 PM
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The bigger crime here is still using Flash for a video player.
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Kirby
05/12/17 3:24:59 PM
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CruelBuffalo posted...
eston posted...
The story doesn't really indicate that a robbery was taking place, it says the aggressor made eye contact with the victim and then went to retrieve a gun from his car. Makes me wonder if these guys knew each other somehow


Did you guys watch the video? Regardless of if they knew each other, the dude brought a gun and was pointing it around. You don't go get your gun, pull it out and point it to just talk. He was either going to rob or kill them.
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chill02
05/12/17 3:27:09 PM
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and nothing of value was lost
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eston
05/12/17 3:28:54 PM
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QuantumScript
05/12/17 3:31:08 PM
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Giant_Aspirin posted...
AlephZero posted...
i was told that if regular citizens were allowed to carry firearms it would result in shootouts


that's exactly what happened here. there was a shootout between two regular citizens who were carrying firearms.


dude when did you become such a massive shill for hardcore leftism? what happened here is that a thug tried to start shit with a passerby. the passerby was armed and defended himself and his friend/relative/etc. stop trying to spin this in a way that reaffirms your gun control delusions.
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eston
05/12/17 3:32:16 PM
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Regardless of if they knew each other, the dude brought a gun and was pointing it around. You don't go get your gun, pull it out and point it to just talk. He was either going to rob or kill them.

I didn't say anything about him just trying to talk, I'm saying these guys could have had some sort of prior conflict. If he was just trying to rob them, this was a nonsensical way to go about it
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MrPeppers
05/12/17 3:32:50 PM
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eston posted...
Regardless of if they knew each other, the dude brought a gun and was pointing it around. You don't go get your gun, pull it out and point it to just talk. He was either going to rob or kill them.

I didn't say anything about him just trying to talk, I'm saying these guys could have had some sort of prior conflict. If he was just trying to rob them, this was a nonsensical way to go about it


Yeah, most street criminals are dumb as shit. What's new?
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Questionmarktarius
05/12/17 3:33:25 PM
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eston posted...
Did you guys watch the video?

I couldn't get it to play

There's copies on liveleak and heavy, but they're shortened.

Supposedly, the one on Chicago Tribune used to show the guy drop dead in the reflection in the back window of the SUV on the bottom, but was edited out later.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
05/12/17 3:33:42 PM
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eston posted...
I'm saying these guys could have had some sort of prior conflict.


This isn't a relevant point. Citizens don't get to use the Bush Doctrine.
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eston
05/12/17 3:38:48 PM
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This isn't a relevant point. Citizens don't get to use the Bush Doctrine.

Don't get me wrong, it sounds like a clear case of self-defense, but it does not sound like a robbery
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KamenRiderBlade
05/12/17 3:42:25 PM
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QuantumScript posted...
VectorChaos posted...
AlephZero posted...
gun control beards told me it's impossible for someone to protect themselves when robbed with a gun


Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
And the world was better off.

QFT
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Medz8606
05/12/17 3:53:36 PM
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Why did he get out of his car when he could have ran him over?
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KamenRiderBlade
05/12/17 3:55:16 PM
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Medz8606 posted...
Why did he get out of his car when he could have ran him over?

Maybe he doesn't want to damage his car?
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Giant_Aspirin
05/12/17 3:56:18 PM
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QuantumScript posted...
Giant_Aspirin posted...
AlephZero posted...
i was told that if regular citizens were allowed to carry firearms it would result in shootouts


that's exactly what happened here. there was a shootout between two regular citizens who were carrying firearms.


dude when did you become such a massive shill for hardcore leftism? what happened here is that a thug tried to start shit with a passerby. the passerby was armed and defended himself and his friend/relative/etc. stop trying to spin this in a way that reaffirms your gun control delusions.


I've always been liberal.

No partisan politics were involved in the response you're upset about. Because that's exactly what happened. There was a shootout. I didn't say it was good. I didn't say it was bad. I just said it happened, which it most certainly did. I'm not sure how you can even argue with me about this.
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Gunpo
05/12/17 3:58:26 PM
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Giant_Aspirin posted...
i like how the guy just fled the scene after he literally shot someone

You wouldnt? Lol
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Medz8606
05/12/17 4:03:25 PM
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Gunpo posted...
Giant_Aspirin posted...
i like how the guy just fled the scene after he literally shot someone

You wouldnt? Lol

They thug fleed as well. The guy still should have called the police and request a meat wagon.
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Kirby
05/12/17 4:04:40 PM
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Medz8606 posted...
Gunpo posted...
Giant_Aspirin posted...
i like how the guy just fled the scene after he literally shot someone

You wouldnt? Lol

They thug fleed as well. The guy still should have called the police and request a meat wagon.


How do you know he didn't? The story doesn't say that the victim did or didn't call. Nonetheless, he obviously cooperated with police in the investigation.

If I'm ever in a shooting in a shady area, I'm driving the fuck out of there before reinforcements arrive and then call the police. The victim saw the suspect run off as we did so he probably didn't even realize the suspect was dead.
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GOOMFalse
05/12/17 4:11:00 PM
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Good fight, nerd
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Wu_Tang_Shogun
05/12/17 4:19:14 PM
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People think we live in movie land where every situation involving guns ends up a John Woo shootout -_-
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DirkDiggles
05/12/17 4:21:43 PM
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He didn't have to kill him. He could have shot the gun out of his hand instead.
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QuantumScript
05/12/17 4:22:36 PM
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DirkDiggles posted...
He didn't have to kill him. He could have shot the gun out of his hand instead.


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Leight_Weight
05/12/17 4:22:41 PM
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That vdeo sucked
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mattnd2007
05/12/17 4:48:31 PM
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Don't start no shit, won't be no shit
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05/12/17 4:50:57 PM
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Annihilated
05/14/17 12:14:47 AM
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The guy didn't even look like he was hit. Amazing that he actually died.
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Mystere
05/14/17 12:17:00 AM
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So should robberies be handled by giving them your wallet and then shooting them as they walk away?

Because I like that idea.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
05/14/17 7:50:10 AM
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Mystere posted...
So should robberies be handled by giving them your wallet and then shooting them as they walk away?

Because I like that idea.


I'd be okay with this tbqh. 100% fuck their lives.
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Swagnificent119
05/14/17 8:08:36 AM
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TommyG663513
05/14/17 8:23:44 AM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Mystere posted...
So should robberies be handled by giving them your wallet and then shooting them as they walk away?

Because I like that idea.


I'd be okay with this tbqh. 100% fuck their lives.


Yeah this sounds the best tbh.

Though it sounds like you may have a weaker self defense claim in this scenario. It also assumes the robber has no intent to shoot you.
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Nomadic View
05/14/17 8:25:57 AM
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XD

That's awesome!
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ReignFury
05/14/17 8:27:43 AM
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Omega Hunter posted...
AlephZero posted...
gun control beards told me it's impossible for someone to protect themselves when robbed with a gun


I love when a mass shooting happens and they say if some of the victims had a gun it would only have resulted in more death...they are rediulously blinded by ideology...and im a liberal.


Didnt those 10 cops that got shot in Dallas have guns?
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wah_wah_wah
05/14/17 8:30:40 AM
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ReignFury posted...
Omega Hunter posted...
AlephZero posted...
gun control beards told me it's impossible for someone to protect themselves when robbed with a gun


I love when a mass shooting happens and they say if some of the victims had a gun it would only have resulted in more death...they are rediulously blinded by ideology...and im a liberal.


Didnt those 10 cops that got shot in Dallas have guns?

Yeah it's a pretty stupid argument to say that because this guy is a good shot that means everyone with a gun is a good shot
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The Eternal Flame
05/14/17 8:58:08 AM
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Won't someone please think of the poor robber? :'(
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