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Erik_P
05/11/17 10:39:57 PM
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Zeus is a paid Russian troll. That's why he defends Trump so vigorously.
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Sensual_T_Rex
05/11/17 10:41:36 PM
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Keep up the petty insults people. No seriously it's been working out so well for you so far.
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Erik_P
05/11/17 10:43:28 PM
#53:


Sensual_T_Rex posted...
Keep up the petty insults people. No seriously it's been working out so well for you so far.


It's not an insult, but a proven fact, that Russia has paid people to spread misinformation and defend Trump.

The more confusion there is the better because that means less focus on treason.
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ClaudiaSAirola
05/11/17 10:43:37 PM
#54:


Sensual_T_Rex posted...
Keep up the petty insults people. No seriously it's been working out so well for you so far.

You think we pay attention to who your talking to?
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Sensual_T_Rex
05/11/17 10:44:58 PM
#55:


ClaudiaSAirola posted...
Sensual_T_Rex posted...
Keep up the petty insults people. No seriously it's been working out so well for you so far.

You think we pay attention to who your talking to?


*you're
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ClaudiaSAirola
05/11/17 10:46:56 PM
#56:


Sensual_T_Rex posted...
ClaudiaSAirola posted...
Sensual_T_Rex posted...
Keep up the petty insults people. No seriously it's been working out so well for you so far.

You think we pay attention to who your talking to?


*you're

You sure showed me by not answering the question.
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Sensual_T_Rex
05/11/17 10:48:30 PM
#57:


ClaudiaSAirola posted...
Sensual_T_Rex posted...
ClaudiaSAirola posted...
Sensual_T_Rex posted...
Keep up the petty insults people. No seriously it's been working out so well for you so far.

You think we pay attention to who your talking to?


*you're

You sure showed me by not answering the question.


Tee hee dance puppet, DANCE!
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ClaudiaSAirola
05/11/17 10:50:31 PM
#58:


Sensual_T_Rex posted...
ClaudiaSAirola posted...
Sensual_T_Rex posted...
ClaudiaSAirola posted...
Sensual_T_Rex posted...
Keep up the petty insults people. No seriously it's been working out so well for you so far.

You think we pay attention to who your talking to?


*you're

You sure showed me by not answering the question.


Tee hee dance puppet, DANCE!

Kay, that must've been funnier in your head.
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Sensual_T_Rex
05/11/17 10:52:32 PM
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ClaudiaSAirola posted...
Sensual_T_Rex posted...
ClaudiaSAirola posted...
Sensual_T_Rex posted...
ClaudiaSAirola posted...
Sensual_T_Rex posted...
Keep up the petty insults people. No seriously it's been working out so well for you so far.

You think we pay attention to who your talking to?


*you're

You sure showed me by not answering the question.


Tee hee dance puppet, DANCE!

Kay, that must've been funnier in your head.


Indeed and that's all that matters.
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Melon_Master
05/11/17 11:04:48 PM
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Sensual_T_Rex posted...
Indeed and that's all that matters.

It really isn't.. :/

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Veedrock-
05/11/17 11:07:27 PM
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60 posts, not one mention of guns.

Liberalfaqs.
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Sensual_T_Rex
05/11/17 11:17:40 PM
#62:


Melon_Master posted...
Sensual_T_Rex posted...
Indeed and that's all that matters.

It really isn't.. :/

02z9CM8


Leave Brittany alone!
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0551E80Y
05/11/17 11:28:34 PM
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There's people that he answers to regarding his choices. E.g. The federal courts are blocking his executive orders, especially the muslim ban one. There's voices shouting for his impeachment as well.
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Zeus
05/12/17 10:43:29 PM
#64:


Metal_DK posted...
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/427026/why-democrats-buried-their-debates-times-no-one-will-watch-brendan-bordelon


Which all respect to biased rightwing journalism, it's the National Review which, you know, pretty much embodies biased rightwing journalism.

Metal_DK posted...
never said it was corrupt, but its not good. corruption and not a good idea are different things.
http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/presidential-campaign/272638-democrats-superdelegate-system-is-unfair-and


What? There's no fundamental issue with it. Honestly, if anything it's a quality control measure.

Metal_DK posted...
and you not reading what i said and adding in dumbass shit like that to frame me does? Screw you


That's pretty much the only way it can be read. "If you don't agree with us on every issue, you are an evil enemy who needs to be destroyed" is pretty much the mantra of the movement.

Metal_DK posted...
The country not doing well IS cultural stagnation.


Inventing a term by giving words new meaning is confusing and counterproductive. Obviously our nation isn't culturally stagnant and to state that when you likely mean something else just distorts the point of reference. To provide greater context, if you google "cultural stagnation" you'll notice that all of the top results apply to THE ARTS, not technology or some vague progress. In fact, quite a few of them reference the trend of entertainment being inspired by the world 20 years past (ie, Happy Days in the 1970s referenced 1950s America)


Erik_P posted...
Corruption is more endemic among Democrats than Republicans


Hahahahaha

No.

More Republicans are paid off by oil companies to deny climate change and promote anti environmental regulations than Democrats.


HAHAHAHAHAHA

No. You're wrong. As always. You're trying to allude to hypothetical speculative corruption while ignoring ACTUAL, real-world corruption doing damage. And you're also glossing over the anti-science tendencies of Democrats who have demonized energy independence and GMOs.

Kana posted...
Oh look Zeus is doing his "Trump has done nothing wrong but I totally don't support him" bit again


I don't support him on most issues. It's the same way that you can be defend LBGT without being LBGT yourself... unless you're implying that you can only defend something if you are that thing.
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Zeus
05/12/17 10:44:41 PM
#65:


Erik_P posted...
Sensual_T_Rex posted...
Keep up the petty insults people. No seriously it's been working out so well for you so far.


It's not an insult, but a proven fact, that Russia has paid people to spread misinformation and defend Trump.

The more confusion there is the better because that means less focus on treason.


Labs pay people to murder kittens. This is a proven fact. Therefore Erik is a paid kitten murderer. #ErikLogic
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TheCyborgNinja
05/12/17 10:51:51 PM
#66:


Hitler came to power seemingly with many checks and balances, as have many dictators in history. Past a certain point, it comes down to having enough might and popularity (in the right places) so that people just sort of whine and let you get away with it all.
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Metal_DK
05/13/17 11:09:46 AM
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Zeus posted...
Which all respect to biased rightwing journalism, it's the National Review which, you know, pretty much embodies biased rightwing journalism.


Almost all leftists are now saying the same thing. Is this good enough for you?
http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2016/jan/20/debbie-wasserman-schultz/democratic-debates-maximize-exposure-debbie-wasser/

Zeus posted...
What? There's no fundamental issue with it. Honestly, if anything it's a quality control measure.


Bullshit. When Bernie can get more votes in a primary but lose the state in delegate counts because all the super delegates go immediately for the establishment? You are naive as hell if you think its for "quality control"

Zeus posted...
That's pretty much the only way it can be read. "If you don't agree with us on every issue, you are an evil enemy who needs to be destroyed" is pretty much the mantra of the movement.

Denying gay people marriage is treating them differently in the eyes of the law. I'd argue that is in fact hate. But when the fuck did i say somebody anti gay marriage think every gay person should be killed? Stop putting words in my mouth just to fill your straw man.

Zeus posted...
Inventing a term by giving words new meaning is confusing and counterproductive. Obviously our nation isn't culturally stagnant and to state that when you likely mean something else just distorts the point of reference. To provide greater context, if you google "cultural stagnation" you'll notice that all of the top results apply to THE ARTS, not technology or some vague progress. In fact, quite a few of them reference the trend of entertainment being inspired by the world 20 years past (ie, Happy Days in the 1970s referenced 1950s America)


If you actually read my post, youd know that i also referenced that the 1970s was a period of cultural stagnation. Cultural stagnation is a product of a shitty economic climate. Which we've been in since 07/08. The 1970s was also a period of a bad economy. Before the financial collapse the mid 70s was the worst period for the US economy post WW2....

Seriously dude, your pick apart post attempts are awful
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streamofthesky
05/13/17 12:56:31 PM
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I have no problem with the concept of super delegates. A fail-safe at the convention to prevent someone from getting the nomination who would be a really bad idea -- like if it turned out Hillary had broken the law, or John Edwards had taken an insurmountable lead before his whole cheating on his cancer-stricken wife thing was discovered -- that's a good thing. Awesome.

But that is NOT how it's used. It's used as a cudgel to beat back candidates the DNC doesn't favor before they can garner any momentum. News reporters will say, "It's only 4 primaries into the season and Bernie's down to Hillary by 500 delegates*, how can he ever recover?!" and later on, "3/4 of states have already voted and Bernie's only closed the gap to 400 delegates difference! It's pretty much impossible for him to overtake Hillary now!"
* "98% of them are super delegates, but we'll keep that in the fine print"

The core message being, "Why don'tchya just give up and vote for the inevitable choice? Or stay home. Why waste the time voting for a sure loser?"

Super delegates should be barred from publicly favoring any primary candidate until the DNC convention or at least until all primaries are over. If they violate that rule, remove them as a super delegate and replace w/ someone else. They shouldn't be allowed to influence the primaries.
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dedbus
05/13/17 1:55:45 PM
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Another term and we can stop him for life.
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Allisonata
05/13/17 2:08:14 PM
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2018 will be a great year for Democrats. No time would be easier to turn a red state than next year. More baby boomers will be dead by then. Doesn't matter what state you are from. More people will vote democrat so take part and aid in flipping. Might be hard but all votes count.
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HorrorJudasGoat
05/13/17 3:10:41 PM
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Just impeach him so that Pence can be president.
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Zeus
05/14/17 12:54:59 AM
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Metal_DK posted...
Almost all leftists are now saying the same thing. Is this good enough for you?
http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2016/jan/20/debbie-wasserman-schultz/democratic-debates-maximize-exposure-debbie-wasser/


Except 538 noted that it wasn't actually remarkable and, in addition to the debates, there were several forums where both candidates appeared:
https://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/is-six-democratic-debates-too-few/

In general, when you only have TWO primary candidates remaining, it's silly to do tons of extra debates but, at the same time, I would have loved to have seen additional general election debates where, just like most years, we only got 3 presidential debates.

Plus it should be noted that your source seems to claim more about the *placement* of the debates than the quantity. While your source does make a mention or two towards quantity, it relates it to the highly anomalous 2008 which was the first time since 1988 that over 20 primary debates were held and, in general, 2008 had the most that were held in at least 30 years.

Nor is there any indication that additional debates would have made any difference because, again, it was really just down to 2 candidates for most of them. Jim Webb dropped out after the first one -- where he had no talking time -- and Chafee soon followed. Keep in mind that the Republicans consistently had more than six candidates for almost the entire debate season and they only held NINE debates. The Dems' 6 debate season being too small is a convenient fiction cooked up by Sanders supporters.

Metal_DK posted...
Bullshit. When Bernie can get more votes in a primary but lose the state in delegate counts because all the super delegates go immediately for the establishment? You are naive as hell if you think its for "quality control"


Overlooking that it's the definition of quality control, Hillary won WITHOUT the supderdelegates so your entire argument is moot.

Metal_DK posted...
If you actually read my post, youd know that i also referenced that the 1970s was a period of cultural stagnation. Cultural stagnation is a product of a shitty economic climate. Which we've been in since 07/08. The 1970s was also a period of a bad economy. Before the financial collapse the mid 70s was the worst period for the US economy post WW2....

Seriously dude, your pick apart post attempts are awful


And again, that term you made up on the spot is flat-out wrong for the reasons I already spelled out. You've apparently conflated economic stagnation with cultural stagnation and, if you're going to blame economic stagnation for cultural stagnation -- which would be completely stupid and hold no basis in reality -- then you should just be referencing economic stagnation and cutting out the middle man.
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Zeus
05/14/17 1:02:07 AM
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streamofthesky posted...
I have no problem with the concept of super delegates. A fail-safe at the convention to prevent someone from getting the nomination who would be a really bad idea -- like if it turned out Hillary had broken the law, or John Edwards had taken an insurmountable lead before his whole cheating on his cancer-stricken wife thing was discovered -- that's a good thing. Awesome.

But that is NOT how it's used. It's used as a cudgel to beat back candidates the DNC doesn't favor before they can garner any momentum. News reporters will say, "It's only 4 primaries into the season and Bernie's down to Hillary by 500 delegates*, how can he ever recover?!" and later on, "3/4 of states have already voted and Bernie's only closed the gap to 400 delegates difference! It's pretty much impossible for him to overtake Hillary now!"
* "98% of them are super delegates, but we'll keep that in the fine print"


The party leadership is largely elected by the people so you already have representation. More importantly, Hillary own WITHOUT the superdelegates. And 98% weren't superdelegates.

And, on a more fundamental level, the party leadership is decided BY THE PARTY. There's never been a requirement for some straight popular vote system nor should they be required to have one. If you feel that it's out of touch with your selfish political wants, either get more active within the Democratic party or support another party. Honestly, Bernie Sanders shouldn't have been given a shot at all because he only ran as a Democrat so he wouldn't have to run outside of a party and the establishment was 100% in its rights to want to protect itself. Likewise, Bernie is a nutter who has no business being president. He was so bad of a nom that he almost made me wish Obama could take another term and Obama was a mediocre (if not awful) president.

In the most general sense, the Democratic Party tries to act within its best interests and to promote its agenda which is what political parties are *supposed* to do. If a candidate doesn't fit the party's values and isn't loyal to the party, they shouldn't represent the party.
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TheCyborgNinja
05/14/17 1:10:16 AM
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Somebody with big hands has to challenge him to a fist-fight for the presidency. His supporters would probably think he was a pussy if he backed down, and he would when he saw actual man hands come at him.
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Zeus
05/14/17 1:13:35 AM
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TheCyborgNinja posted...
Somebody with big hands has to challenge him to a fist-fight for the presidency. His supporters would probably think he was a pussy if he backed down, and he would when he saw actual man hands come at him.


He grew up in NYC in a pretty rough field. He's pretty guaranteed to know how to fight and wouldn't shy from a fight. Despite the fact he's ancient, he's still in good enough shape that he probably could have whipped any of the primary candidates except maybe Jim Webb.
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TheCyborgNinja
05/14/17 1:15:23 AM
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Zeus posted...
TheCyborgNinja posted...
Somebody with big hands has to challenge him to a fist-fight for the presidency. His supporters would probably think he was a pussy if he backed down, and he would when he saw actual man hands come at him.


He grew up in NYC in a pretty rough field. He's pretty guaranteed to know how to fight and wouldn't shy from a fight. Despite the fact he's ancient, he's still in good enough shape that he probably could have whipped any of the primary candidates except maybe Jim Webb.

He's a fucking 1% pussy. The only thing his hands have beaten up are his own meat. "Waaaaah, daddy, tell the doctor I have bone spurs! Waaaaah!"
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Lil69Leo
05/14/17 1:19:24 AM
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Small loan of 1 million.
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FrndNhbrHdCEman
05/14/17 1:30:51 AM
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Zeus posted...
TheCyborgNinja posted...
Somebody with big hands has to challenge him to a fist-fight for the presidency. His supporters would probably think he was a pussy if he backed down, and he would when he saw actual man hands come at him.


He grew up in NYC in a pretty rough field. He's pretty guaranteed to know how to fight and wouldn't shy from a fight. Despite the fact he's ancient, he's still in good enough shape that he probably could have whipped any of the primary candidates except maybe Jim Webb.

Lmao. Ya ever stop bein ignorant?
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TheCyborgNinja
05/14/17 1:31:24 AM
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FrndNhbrHdCEman posted...
Zeus posted...
TheCyborgNinja posted...
Somebody with big hands has to challenge him to a fist-fight for the presidency. His supporters would probably think he was a pussy if he backed down, and he would when he saw actual man hands come at him.


He grew up in NYC in a pretty rough field. He's pretty guaranteed to know how to fight and wouldn't shy from a fight. Despite the fact he's ancient, he's still in good enough shape that he probably could have whipped any of the primary candidates except maybe Jim Webb.

Lmao. Ya ever stop bein ignorant?

Yeah, disagreeing with you proves it. You?
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Metal_DK
05/14/17 1:17:51 PM
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Zeus posted...
Except 538 noted that it wasn't actually remarkable and, in addition to the debates, there were several forums where both candidates appeared:
https://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/is-six-democratic-debates-too-few/

In general, when you only have TWO primary candidates remaining, it's silly to do tons of extra debates but, at the same time, I would have loved to have seen additional general election debates where, just like most years, we only got 3 presidential debates.

Plus it should be noted that your source seems to claim more about the *placement* of the debates than the quantity. While your source does make a mention or two towards quantity, it relates it to the highly anomalous 2008 which was the first time since 1988 that over 20 primary debates were held and, in general, 2008 had the most that were held in at least 30 years.

Nor is there any indication that additional debates would have made any difference because, again, it was really just down to 2 candidates for most of them. Jim Webb dropped out after the first one -- where he had no talking time -- and Chafee soon followed. Keep in mind that the Republicans consistently had more than six candidates for almost the entire debate season and they only held NINE debates. The Dems' 6 debate season being too small is a convenient fiction cooked up by Sanders supporters.


Having them when they did, and as few as they did at a time when the country is pissed, ya it was an awful idea.

Zeus posted...
Overlooking that it's the definition of quality control, Hillary won WITHOUT the supderdelegates so your entire argument is moot.


Bernie won states by popular vote but lost delegate counts in those states. That should never of happened.
Zeus posted...

And again, that term you made up on the spot is flat-out wrong for the reasons I already spelled out. You've apparently conflated economic stagnation with cultural stagnation and, if you're going to blame economic stagnation for cultural stagnation -- which would be completely stupid and hold no basis in reality -- then you should just be referencing economic stagnation and cutting out the middle man.


Economic stagnation is cultural stagnation. Get over it.

Also you forgot to apologize for your massive straw man about gay marriage.
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FrndNhbrHdCEman
05/14/17 3:06:49 PM
#81:


TheCyborgNinja posted...
FrndNhbrHdCEman posted...
Zeus posted...
TheCyborgNinja posted...
Somebody with big hands has to challenge him to a fist-fight for the presidency. His supporters would probably think he was a pussy if he backed down, and he would when he saw actual man hands come at him.


He grew up in NYC in a pretty rough field. He's pretty guaranteed to know how to fight and wouldn't shy from a fight. Despite the fact he's ancient, he's still in good enough shape that he probably could have whipped any of the primary candidates except maybe Jim Webb.

Lmao. Ya ever stop bein ignorant?

Yeah, disagreeing with you proves it. You?

What's your prob?
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XlaxJynx007
05/14/17 3:28:07 PM
#82:


Erik_P posted...
Blighboy posted...
cold

hard

memes


No, just no.

We need to get out and vote next year in the midterms. Get all the Republican traitors out of office and replace them with Democrats so that nothing will ever change

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