Board 8 > Anyone think 2013 stands a chance to win???

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I mean, it has The Last of Us and Grand Theft Auto V. Two monstrously awesome games!!!

The thing is, GTA isn't popular on Gamefaqs...if it was on a more universal level then this year would probably win.
Gamefaqs is all Zelda and Final Fantasy.
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It has a chance, but I'd be shocked if it won. As you said, GTA isn't big on GameFAQs. KotOR might be stronger than any game from 2013, and Wind Waker is a good bit stronger than that.
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Hmm what year is KotOR???? No way is it stronger than The Last of Us. Then again, The Last of Us I don't think is even that big here. It sold HUGE but so did GTAV and that won't mean anything here at gamefaqs.
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Won't break 25%

Win what? Win its first match? Win it all?

My bracket has it winning two matches, which is partially a testament to poor bracket placement since it's borderline as to whether it really even belongs in the Sweet 16, much less the Elite Eight. But...no, after seeing how bad the votals have been thus far--not to mention the fact that the platforms aren't really being featured, since 2013 is both PS4 and XBOne and that would've helped immensely--I don't think it'll win even one match. 2013 has a ton of casual appeal, and the one franchise that's represented in both years, I'd favor the 2013 release (yes, Gen III has some nostalgia appeal now, but that's in part because it was recently remade...you know, in Gen VI?). ...Oh, wait, there are two prominent franchises that had releases in both 2003 and 2013, aren't there? See, even I forgot that, because FE7 wasn't even listed on 2003's list, because Fire Emblem was pretty niche up until Awakening.

...Honestly, you could make a case for any one of that fourpack to make the Elite Eight. None are terribly impressive, and...it's ultimately going to come down to the fact that 2003 has Wind Waker.

...Yes, seriously. If you equate each year to its presumed #1 game, we are likely looking at an Elite Eight of Chrono Trigger, Melee (or FFX, but let's be serious, it's Melee), Final Fantasy VII, Super Mario 64, Super Mario World, Final Fantasy VI, Ocarina of Time...and Wind Waker. Hmm, now which game doesn't belong here? And could anything have been done to prevent it?

The answer is yes. The last "game", and I say this from the standpoint of the whole year, should be Majora's Mask. Or FFIX, if you prefer. Either way, 2000 would roll that entire fourpack. 2004...probably wouldn't because it doesn't have a Zelda game, but it should. I mean, ideally 1995 wouldn't be there, either, but it seems like ever since Crono lost to Missingno, future brackets have been meticulously crafted to try to disguise how far CT has fallen--not that there have been many such brackets. The next one was GotD, which naturally CT couldn't even participate in, and no one ever expects anything out of Chrono Cross so it actually managed to outperform expectations by winning an 8-9 match before falling in R2 to the eventual champion. Rivalry Rumble, if anyone even cares, had Crono-Lavos being fed to another Noble Niner in Round 1, while Frog/Magus was placed in an ultra-soft division where B8's AA fanaticism actually resulted in Phoenix/Edgey getting a 1-seed. And they still lost the division final to Alucard/Dracula. 2013...oh, hey, what's this new format? Threeways? And you put Crono and Magus in a position to be in the same R2 threepack, thereby giving Crono a convenient excuse for choking again as long as he and Magus can combine for at least 50%? Meanwhile Frog was, again, in a spot where he could just quietly be fed to someone he'd have never come close to beating even at CT's peak. And then came BGE3, where CT gets the spot usually reserved for Link in character battles (suggesting that it actually beat out Ocarina of Time for nominations and was the top overall seed), then gets everyone calling it a beast for putting up 81% in R2 facing the exact same game that its much-maligned sequel was able to beat in GotD. Call me not impressed. And consider me downright pissed off when the "oh god how has FFX fallen so far" narrative that plagued it after its first two matches suddenly disappears when CT gets 65.5% on it, because that doesn't fit with the "CT would win the contest in the absence of rallies" narrative, and oh, look, we all know Melee's going to get rallied so that can't be disproven, so it must be true. And just for good measure, CC was given such casual bait that the gurus actually favored it to reach R3, which it did, and many took it to R4, which it didn't make.
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But wait, there's more! This has actually gone on even longer, except it wasn't done carefully enough. Look at the draw for CBVIII. Magus would've been fed to Link in R2, except he couldn't even make it that far; Frog was fed to Bowser in R1, and Crono, having fallen to a 4-seed, was not put in the division with a non-Noble Nine 1-seed--neither of the non-1-seed Noble Niners were. He was placed in an unwinnable situation against Sephiroth, with a Round 2 opponent just soft enough to actually be beatable (though I picked the upset). But lol, nope, the placement wasn't soft enough. Take your 0-3. Okay, before that would be BGE2, and that shouldn't need much coddling because the game is still decent, unlike its characters. ...Yeah, that was about the best that could be expected. There were divisions by era, and CT was never going to get past FFVII and SM64 anyway. If anything, they could've done more--set up the top half a little better so that a Mario game finishes second to FFVII in R2 and LFFs SM64 in R3. Wouldn't work now, but might've actually worked in 2009 when the descent was still in its early stages. What about CBVII? Huh, yeah, meeting up with defending champion L-Block in R2 works. Count on meme backlash, set it up so there's probably something Nintendo weighing Samus down in R4...actually, I have no clue how that was supposed to work because Vincent beat Crono the previous year. I guess it would be excusable if he did it again, then...but Crono stepped up, and the ensuing Link/Mario/Samus trio allowed Crono to actually sneak into the finals and look far better than he had any right to. Isn't LFF great? Unfortunately, it wasn't enough to stop Frog from losing to Ganondorf with Samus in the poll...or to stop Magus from losing to Sandbag. And CBVI...well, that was the one that made it evident that Crono needed that type of babying to keep up the illusion that the Noble Nine were unassailable and that CT as a whole wasn't reliable at all. Crono lost to Vincent; Frog lost to Scorpion; Magus...actually, Magus just got a bad position. Magus lost to two legit opponents.

But, yeah, take anything good from anything Chrono-related with a grain of salt. Actually, this makes the decision to not allow 2000 a bracket placement that would let it have the Elite Eight berth it deserves even more mystifying. I mean, Chrono Cross has actually outperformed expectations almost every time it shows up in a contest; certainly it could be "justified" to receive that 4th spot on the banner over Perfect Dark or Diablo II, right? The only times it's ever lost in R1 was when it was being SFF'd by FFIX or FFX (in the case of Serge's lone CB appearance) in fourways. That was what hid the game's strength, really. Seriously. So "the narrative" that Chrono is a strong franchise would actually benefit from 2000 not getting fed to 1996 in Round 2, unless Allen seriously believes that Majora's Mask/FFIX/GSC will be able to take down SM64/SMRPG/...wait a minute...

...Shit. 2000 really is deeper! I still believe that SM64 beats any 2000 game straight-up, but 1996 isn't that deep...and if systems actually do come into play, which they don't seem to be doing, 2000 can counter the N64 with the PS2.

...Well, on the plus side, I don't have to worry about 1996 upsetting 1997 because of the Square decline. FFVII may very well be in striking distance for SM64, but it beats anything 2000 has to offer and has a...deep...lineup...crap. Crapcrapcrapcrapcrap. 2000 is going to the Final Four, isn't it? We've seen Majora's Mask prove that it can wield the full might of the Zelda name; it took a stronger Zelda game to stop it last time and even that wasn't by much. And it...took out a stronger FFX in the GotD semis and finished by beating...well, Brawl, not Melee, but GotD was a SFFfest; Brawl beat Melee there. ...I think 2000 can make the finals.
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holy fuck
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tennisboy213 posted...

holy fuck

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VeryInsane posted...

tennisboy213 posted...

holy fuck

'03 has wind waker.
zeldafaqs is still a thing.
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Da fuck, Tsunami
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nice
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he couldn't help it, he's talking about an '03 match.
dropping a tsunami bomb was his only choice.
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Thanks for that, Tsunami
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Now I know why your name is Tsunami.
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Anyway..I picked 2013 becuase it SHOULD win, but it won't
It's kind of my upset pick of round 1
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