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V-E-G-Y-
05/05/17 6:59:54 AM
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AbysmalTrinity
05/05/17 7:03:42 AM
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Nothing new
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AbysmalTrinity
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Bio1590
05/05/17 7:10:41 AM
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You'd think people who frequently get modded for saying racist things would, yenno...stop
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Thugstar
05/05/17 7:19:07 AM
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Sayonara Sayoria
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KingCrabCake
05/05/17 7:20:01 AM
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He is a racist fool so nothing of value was lost.
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faizan_faizan
05/05/17 7:20:44 AM
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KingCrabCake posted...
He is a racist fool so nothing of value was lost.

Context?
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Chicken
05/05/17 7:52:42 AM
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That dude needs to be more accepting towards people that are different than him
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StarMelody
05/05/17 11:19:38 AM
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KingCrabCake posted...
He is a racist fool so nothing of value was lost.

Chicken posted...
That dude needs to be more accepting towards people that are different than him


Moderators! MODERATORS! PC! PC! MY FEELINGS ARE FUCKING HURT!
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ASithLord7
05/05/17 11:20:48 AM
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StarMelody posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
He is a racist fool so nothing of value was lost.

Chicken posted...
That dude needs to be more accepting towards people that are different than him


Moderators! MODERATORS! PC! PC! MY FEELINGS ARE FUCKING HURT!

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Siaperaz
05/05/17 11:21:24 AM
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What a horrible moderation!
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GiftedACIII
05/05/17 11:21:31 AM
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ASithLord7 posted...
StarMelody posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
He is a racist fool so nothing of value was lost.

Chicken posted...
That dude needs to be more accepting towards people that are different than him


Moderators! MODERATORS! PC! PC! MY FEELINGS ARE FUCKING HURT!

Says the person who just made a topic crying about being suspended for racist shitposting

It's a sarcastic post
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Psycho_Poodle
05/05/17 11:22:14 AM
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Sayoria? More like, sayonara!
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StarMelody
05/05/17 11:22:18 AM
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ASithLord7 posted...
StarMelody posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
He is a racist fool so nothing of value was lost.

Chicken posted...
That dude needs to be more accepting towards people that are different than him


Moderators! MODERATORS! PC! PC! MY FEELINGS ARE FUCKING HURT!

Says the person who just made a topic crying about being suspended for racist shitposting


I'm sorry. I don't see harmless stereotyping and racism as the same thing. Argue it with me all you want. I simply do not see it.
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ASithLord7
05/05/17 11:22:36 AM
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GiftedACIII posted...
ASithLord7 posted...
StarMelody posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
He is a racist fool so nothing of value was lost.

Chicken posted...
That dude needs to be more accepting towards people that are different than him


Moderators! MODERATORS! PC! PC! MY FEELINGS ARE FUCKING HURT!

Says the person who just made a topic crying about being suspended for racist shitposting

It's a sarcastic post

I know. But she just made her own topic bitching and moaning about it to the mods
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Hakuniwa
05/05/17 11:24:10 AM
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StarMelody posted...
I'm sorry. I don't see harmless stereotyping and racism as the same thing. Argue it with me all you want. I simply do not see it.
Why don't you stop if it keeps getting you moderated everytime though?
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ASithLord7
05/05/17 11:25:11 AM
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Hakuniwa posted...
StarMelody posted...
I'm sorry. I don't see harmless stereotyping and racism as the same thing. Argue it with me all you want. I simply do not see it.
Why don't you stop if it keeps getting you moderated everytime though?

Plus it's pretty much exclusively about black people. Pretty clear trend.
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Veggeta X
05/05/17 11:25:13 AM
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Psycho_Poodle posted...
Sayoria? More like, sayonara!

LMAO @StarMelody sorry homie but that was funny.
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AugustAdoulin
05/05/17 11:25:21 AM
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is she on hormones? I hear those can make you confused. maybe it isn't her fault.
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StarMelody
05/05/17 11:27:59 AM
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AugustAdoulin posted...
is she on hormones? I hear those can make you confused. maybe it isn't her fault.


I'm not confused. I just hold racism and prejudice to a different level than a standard liberal.
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DarkChozoGhost
05/05/17 11:28:31 AM
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Is it moddable to call sayoria "he?" I know she wouldn't mark it but they are being intentionally ignorant. It's more offensive than what she got modded for.
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AugustAdoulin
05/05/17 11:28:49 AM
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StarMelody posted...
AugustAdoulin posted...
is she on hormones? I hear those can make you confused. maybe it isn't her fault.


I'm not confused. I just hold racism and prejudice to a different level than a standard liberal.


you sound confused.
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Leanaunfurled
05/05/17 11:29:39 AM
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She turned into a giant, racist shitposter. :/
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StarMelody
05/05/17 11:30:50 AM
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DarkChozoGhost posted...
Is it moddable to call sayoria "he?" I know she wouldn't mark it but they are being intentionally ignorant. It's more offensive than what she got modded for.


I won't mark it, and going by the record on here, of course it's not moddable. In this sense, it would be opinion rather than any form of prejudice, because hey, that's how this place mods.
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StarMelody
05/05/17 11:31:41 AM
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Leanaunfurled posted...
She turned into a giant, racist shitposter. :/


....*Sigh*

This is depressing everyone thinks this. Fuck it.
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Veggeta X
05/05/17 11:32:40 AM
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StarMelody posted...
DarkChozoGhost posted...
Is it moddable to call sayoria "he?" I know she wouldn't mark it but they are being intentionally ignorant. It's more offensive than what she got modded for.


I won't mark it, and going by the record on here, of course it's not moddable. In this sense, it would be opinion rather than any form of prejudice, because hey, that's how this place mods.

Actually it is moddable. If you prefer to be called a she but if people keep purposely misgendering you by calling you a he then it's warnable.
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Chicken
05/05/17 11:36:13 AM
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Veggeta X posted...
StarMelody posted...
DarkChozoGhost posted...
Is it moddable to call sayoria "he?" I know she wouldn't mark it but they are being intentionally ignorant. It's more offensive than what she got modded for.


I won't mark it, and going by the record on here, of course it's not moddable. In this sense, it would be opinion rather than any form of prejudice, because hey, that's how this place mods.

Actually it is moddable. If you prefer to be called a she but if people keep purposely misgendering you by calling you a he then it's warnable.


So if I prefer to be called a xhe, anyone can be modded for calling me a he even if they dont know I'm actually a xhe?
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GiftedACIII
05/05/17 11:37:30 AM
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Chicken posted...
Veggeta X posted...
StarMelody posted...
DarkChozoGhost posted...
Is it moddable to call sayoria "he?" I know she wouldn't mark it but they are being intentionally ignorant. It's more offensive than what she got modded for.


I won't mark it, and going by the record on here, of course it's not moddable. In this sense, it would be opinion rather than any form of prejudice, because hey, that's how this place mods.

Actually it is moddable. If you prefer to be called a she but if people keep purposely misgendering you by calling you a he then it's warnable.


So if I prefer to be called a xhe, anyone can be modded for calling me a he even if they dont know I'm actually a xhe?


Mods go by how transgender actually works rather than how intentionally dense shitposters pretend it does
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Veggeta X
05/05/17 11:37:45 AM
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Chicken posted...
So if I prefer to be called a xhe, anyone can be modded for calling me a he even if they dont know I'm actually a xhe?

If you're being genuine with it.
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Error1355
05/05/17 11:38:00 AM
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Only intentional misgendering is offensive.

Also we're not going to enforce the 'xhe' stuff.
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Veggeta X
05/05/17 11:39:32 AM
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GiftedACIII posted...
Mods go by how transgender actually works rather than how intentionally dense shitposters pretend it does

LMAO damn
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DarkChozoGhost
05/05/17 11:39:43 AM
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Error1355 posted...
Only intentional misgendering is offensive.

Also we're not going to enforce the 'xhe' stuff.

But you're also not going to mod posts 5 or 7, which are intentionally misgendering?
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AugustAdoulin
05/05/17 11:41:33 AM
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I just don't understand her. how could someone transgender support Donald trump? :/ It has to be the hormones making her mind cloud up or something.
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Veggeta X
05/05/17 11:42:00 AM
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DarkChozoGhost posted...
Error1355 posted...
Only intentional misgendering is offensive.

Also we're not going to enforce the 'xhe' stuff.

But you're also not going to mod posts 5 or 7, which are intentionally misgendering?

Mark them, bro.
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CrimsonAngeI
05/05/17 11:42:12 AM
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Constantly mentioning hormones isn't making you look much better August.
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MrMallard
05/05/17 11:42:45 AM
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KingCrabCake posted...
She is a racist fool so nothing of value was lost.

ftfy
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Chicken
05/05/17 11:43:01 AM
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Error1355 posted...
Only intentional misgendering is offensive.

Also we're not going to enforce the 'xhe' stuff.


You'll be hearing from my lawyer.
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Leanaunfurled
05/05/17 11:43:39 AM
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AugustAdoulin posted...
I just don't understand her. how could someone transgender support Donald trump? :/ It has to be the hormones making her mind cloud up or something.

That's the equivalent of excusing/blaming a woman's behavior because of her period, which I'm tired of and find offensive. We're responsible for our actions and our own shit that comes out of our brains and mouths (or in some cases, fingers). Not hormones.
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AugustAdoulin
05/05/17 11:44:20 AM
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CrimsonAngeI posted...
Constantly mentioning hormones isn't making you look much better August.


I don't mean it offensively I promise. I just know from my trans friend that taking hormones can actually mess with your head. :o I know that's a cliché but I'm telling the truth.
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Error1355
05/05/17 11:47:41 AM
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DarkChozoGhost posted...
Error1355 posted...
Only intentional misgendering is offensive.

Also we're not going to enforce the 'xhe' stuff.

But you're also not going to mod posts 5 or 7, which are intentionally misgendering?

I'm not seeing enough context to outright say they were undeniably intentionally misgendering her to be honest. I mean if they were corrected in this topic about the situation and then continue to do it then they should be moderated. So at this point if they came into the topic and continued then yeah, if marked it should be moderated.

We're not however going to assume outright anyone who uses male pronouns for a user is right off the bat trying to misgender someone offensively. It's very likely they simply don't even know what someone's gender is.

Could I be wrong with post 5 or 7? Sure. Maybe there is a history that's not being made clear. If marked by Sayoria or something we can look into it if she feels it was intentional and then a moderator will decide from there based on context and history.
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DarkChozoGhost
05/05/17 11:50:32 AM
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Chicken has made it very clear in this topics and others like Hoth's that he's doing it intentionally.
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Error1355
05/05/17 11:52:22 AM
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DarkChozoGhost posted...
Chicken has made it very clear in this topics and others like Hoth's that he's doing it intentionally.

Then she should mark it and explain as such.
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Gojak_v3
05/05/17 11:56:17 AM
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AugustAdoulin posted...
I just don't understand her. how could someone transgender support Donald trump? :/ It has to be the hormones making her mind cloud up or something.


Oh this argument again. Cause of course no trans or gay people can be conservatives.
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NinjaBreakfast
05/05/17 11:59:20 AM
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lol her entire gimmick is p much "i'm transgender and conservative, what do you think of THAT???". not a loss really.

Leanaunfurled posted...
She turned into a giant, racist shitposter. :/

- woman who argues black people who "aren't angels" are deserving of death.
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NinjaBreakfast
05/05/17 12:01:25 PM
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Error1355 posted...
DarkChozoGhost posted...
Error1355 posted...
Only intentional misgendering is offensive.

Also we're not going to enforce the 'xhe' stuff.

But you're also not going to mod posts 5 or 7, which are intentionally misgendering?

I'm not seeing enough context to outright say they were undeniably intentionally misgendering her to be honest. I mean if they were corrected in this topic about the situation and then continue to do it then they should be moderated. So at this point if they came into the topic and continued then yeah, if marked it should be moderated.

We're not however going to assume outright anyone who uses male pronouns for a user is right off the bat trying to misgender someone offensively. It's very likely they simply don't even know what someone's gender is.

Could I be wrong with post 5 or 7? Sure. Maybe there is a history that's not being made clear. If marked by Sayoria or something we can look into it if she feels it was intentional and then a moderator will decide from there based on context and history.

Personally I think moderating intentional misgendering is a good idea.

however, the core problem with interpreting such posts is v apparent here. the biggest shitposters on here are always smart enough to leave room for plausible deniability. I think if you're going to err that much on the side of caution with this that you might as well just not mod it at all tbh.
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Chicken
05/05/17 12:10:05 PM
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DarkChozoGhost posted...
Chicken has made it very clear in this topics and others like Hoth's that he's doing it intentionally.


You don't even know me.
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Volkswagen_Bros
05/05/17 12:14:05 PM
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I expected a better headline out of Vegy, like "Sayoria has been Suspended!!!"
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Blue_Inigo
05/05/17 12:19:06 PM
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You'd think someone who is trans wouldn't make such racist posts.
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deanshow
05/05/17 12:20:14 PM
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Blue_Inigo posted...
You'd think someone who is trans wouldn't make such racist posts.

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NinjaBreakfast
05/05/17 12:20:22 PM
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Blue_Inigo posted...
You'd think someone who is trans wouldn't make such racist posts.

that's literally her whole shtick.
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GODTIER
05/05/17 12:20:47 PM
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DarkChozoGhost posted...
Is it moddable to call sayoria "he?" I know she wouldn't mark it but they are being intentionally ignorant. It's more offensive than what she got modded for.



how can you intentionally be ignorant
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