Current Events > I've officially flipped on abortion. Her body, her choice.

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Borgnar 05/04/17 6:21:43 PM #1:	At any stage even. I still think they are people but they have no claims to their mothers body. Its entirely up to her if she wants to give it life. <cite>Borgnar posted [p:878481207] in I've offic... [t:75311887]...</cite> <quote>At any stage even. I still think they are people but they have no claims to their mothers body. Its entirely up to her if she wants to give it life.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ManWithGun 05/04/17 6:22:30 PM #2:	I think people who live off my tax money are people but id rather them die than take my money. My wallet my choice --- Heeeey <cite>ManWithGun posted [p:878481244] in I've offic... [t:75311887]...</cite> <quote>I think people who live off my tax money are people but id rather them die than take my money. My wallet my choice</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cj_WlLL_VVlN 05/04/17 6:23:45 PM #3:	I believe in abortion up to the 57th trimester. Children are a parents responsibility and if they want to end your life that's there choice. Children are parasites feasting off parents and its their life and their choice. --- Give me your tired, your poor,Your masses yearning to breathe free,The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.Send these, the homeless, tempest tossed, to me. <cite>Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted [p:878481309] in I've offic... [t:75311887]...</cite> <quote>I believe in abortion up to the 57th trimester. Children are a parents responsibility and if they want to end your life that's there choice. Children are parasites feasting off parents and its their life and their choice.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Microwaved_Eggs 05/04/17 6:24:02 PM #4:	>claims to be pro life >dies anyways --- No rights reserved. <cite>Microwaved_Eggs posted [p:878481330] in I've offic... [t:75311887]...</cite> <quote>>claims to be pro life >dies anyways</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 05/04/17 6:24:12 PM #5:	Sigless user topic --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:878481344] in I've offic... [t:75311887]...</cite> <quote>Sigless user topic</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HainoRocks 05/04/17 6:58:55 PM #6:	They're doing the kid a favor in most cases. --- http://highlike.org/media/2015/05/Eliane-Radigue-Islas-resonantes.jpg <cite>HainoRocks posted [p:878483509] in I've offic... [t:75311887]...</cite> <quote>They're doing the kid a favor in most cases.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ManWithGun 05/04/17 7:00:10 PM #7:	HainoRocks posted... They're doing the kid a favor in most cases. Yup because all of the 50 million children aborted in America in the last 40 something years all would have been miserable and useless to society. --- Heeeey <cite>ManWithGun posted [p:878483580] in I've offic... [t:75311887]...</cite> <quote><cite>HainoRocks posted...</cite> <quote>They're doing the kid a favor in most cases.</quote> Yup because all of the 50 million children aborted in America in the last 40 something years all would have been miserable and useless to society.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nomadic View 05/04/17 7:49:00 PM #8:	The woman purposely availed herself to that position, the baby did not. --- {}\\{}(o){}\\//{}//=\\{})){}(< \\//{}{{-{}//\\{} {}xxxxxxxx{};;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;> <cite>Nomadic View posted [p:878486440] in I've offic... [t:75311887]...</cite> <quote>The woman purposely availed herself to that position, the baby did not.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 05/04/17 8:03:47 PM #9:	Nomadic View posted... The woman purposely availed herself to that position, the baby did not. How Nomadic views rape victims --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:878487235] in I've offic... [t:75311887]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nomadic View posted...</cite> <quote>The woman purposely availed herself to that position, the baby did not.</quote> How Nomadic views rape victims</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nomadic View 05/04/17 8:55:51 PM #10:	UnfairRepresent posted... Nomadic View posted... The woman purposely availed herself to that position, the baby did not. How Nomadic views rape victims Less than 1% of abortions are rape victims. If you're jumping straight to rape as a justification for abortion are you conceding that all other forms of abortion are not fine it's just the rape you have an issue with? Or are you just using the most extreme example as an argument lynchpin because you're too intellectually lazy to debate the issue for what it is? --- {}\\{}(o){}\\//{}//=\\{})){}(< \\//{}{{-{}//\\{} {}xxxxxxxx{};;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;> <cite>Nomadic View posted [p:878490356] in I've offic... [t:75311887]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nomadic View posted...</cite> <quote>The woman purposely availed herself to that position, the baby did not.</quote> How Nomadic views rape victims</quote> Less than 1% of abortions are rape victims. If you're jumping straight to rape as a justification for abortion are you conceding that all other forms of abortion are not fine it's just the rape you have an issue with? Or are you just using the most extreme example as an argument lynchpin because you're too intellectually lazy to debate the issue for what it is?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
I4NRulez 05/04/17 8:58:55 PM #11:	Nomadic View posted... Less than 1% of abortions are rape victims. i need a credible statistic on that --- The night brims with defiled scum,and is permeated by their rotten stench. Just think. Now you're all set to hunt and kill to your heart's content. <cite>I4NRulez posted [p:878490537] in I've offic... [t:75311887]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nomadic View posted...</cite> <quote>Less than 1% of abortions are rape victims.</quote> i need a credible statistic on that</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
prince_leo 05/04/17 9:01:03 PM #12:	Nomadic View posted... The woman purposely availed herself to that position, the baby did not. sure, but you shouldn't be "locked in" to a decision consent is always an ongoing process and can be withdrawn at anytime --- https://imgur.com/uHUvpSH http://error1355.com/ce/prince_leo.html <cite>prince_leo posted [p:878490660] in I've offic... [t:75311887]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nomadic View posted...</cite> <quote>The woman purposely availed herself to that position, the baby did not.</quote> sure, but you shouldn't be "locked in" to a decision consent is always an ongoing process and can be withdrawn at anytime</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nomadic View 05/04/17 9:04:45 PM #13:	I4NRulez posted... Nomadic View posted... Less than 1% of abortions are rape victims. i need a credible statistic on that http://abort73.com/abortion_facts/us_abortion_statistics --- {}\\{}(o){}\\//{}//=\\{})){}(< \\//{}{{-{}//\\{} {}xxxxxxxx{};;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;> <cite>Nomadic View posted [p:878490857] in I've offic... [t:75311887]...</cite> <quote><cite>I4NRulez posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nomadic View posted...</cite> <quote>Less than 1% of abortions are rape victims.</quote> i need a credible statistic on that</quote> http://abort73.com/abortion_facts/us_abortion_statistics</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DezCaughtIt 05/04/17 9:05:10 PM #14:	Are you brutal --- *The user formally known as freakofnature30* I like posting. <cite>DezCaughtIt posted [p:878490885] in I've offic... [t:75311887]...</cite> <quote>Are you brutal</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Borgnar 05/04/17 9:15:27 PM #15:	no Nomadic View posted... The woman purposely availed herself to that position, the baby did not. Doesn't matter, its still ultimately in her body. What if she decides to take up smoking and drinking? Are you going to force her to also make sure the baby is healthy? <cite>Borgnar posted [p:878491457] in I've offic... [t:75311887]...</cite> <quote>no <cite>Nomadic View posted...</cite> <quote>The woman purposely availed herself to that position, the baby did not.</quote> Doesn't matter, its still ultimately in her body. What if she decides to take up smoking and drinking? Are you going to force her to also make sure the baby is healthy?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 05/04/17 9:16:43 PM #16:	Nomadic View posted... Less than 1% of abortions are rape victims. If you're jumping straight to rape as a justification for abortion are you conceding that all other forms of abortion are fine it's just the rape you have an issue with? Or are you just using the most extreme example as an argument lynchpin because you're too intellectually lazy to debate the issue for what it is? Dude you went "Women put themselves in that position!" "Rape victims didn't." "OMG Is that all you can talk about!?" You're just blurting out tired stock replies. It's dumb. You're also being dishonest. Assuming you're using the Guttmacher Institute research they looking into why people were getting abortions and only 1% said "Because I was a victim of rape." Someone who says "Because I can't afford to raise the child" could still be a rape victim. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:878491529] in I've offic... [t:75311887]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nomadic View posted...</cite> <quote> Less than 1% of abortions are rape victims. If you're jumping straight to rape as a justification for abortion are you conceding that all other forms of abortion are fine it's just the rape you have an issue with? Or are you just using the most extreme example as an argument lynchpin because you're too intellectually lazy to debate the issue for what it is?</quote> Dude you went "Women put themselves in that position!" "Rape victims didn't." "OMG Is that all you can talk about!?" You're just blurting out tired stock replies. It's dumb. You're also being dishonest. Assuming you're using the Guttmacher Institute research they looking into why people were getting abortions and only 1% said "Because I was a victim of rape." Someone who says "Because I can't afford to raise the child" could still be a rape victim.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doe 05/04/17 9:17:07 PM #17:	I used to be very pro-choice but recently I feel I've been switching Children are precious --- http://i.imgur.com/iwo6yR9.jpg http://i.imgur.com/uqXNtk6.jpg <cite>Doe posted [p:878491549] in I've offic... [t:75311887]...</cite> <quote>I used to be very pro-choice but recently I feel I've been switching Children are precious</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 05/04/17 9:19:03 PM #18:	Doe posted... I used to be very pro-choice but recently I feel I've been switching Children are precious Good thing nobody is supporting aborting children then --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:878491649] in I've offic... [t:75311887]...</cite> <quote><cite>Doe posted...</cite> <quote>I used to be very pro-choice but recently I feel I've been switching Children are precious</quote> Good thing nobody is supporting aborting children then</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nomadic View 05/04/17 9:19:58 PM #19:	Borgnar posted... no Nomadic View posted... The woman purposely availed herself to that position, the baby did not. Doesn't matter, its still ultimately in her body. What if she decides to take up smoking and drinking? Are you going to force her to also make sure the baby is healthy? It's not a crime to drink and/or smoke while pregnant, but I wouldn't be opposed to it. Again, she purposely availed herself to the situation, it's her obligation to behave responsibly. These are the consequences of her actions. --- {}\\{}(o){}\\//{}//=\\{})){}(< \\//{}{{-{}//\\{} {}xxxxxxxx{};;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;> <cite>Nomadic View posted [p:878491693] in I've offic... [t:75311887]...</cite> <quote><cite>Borgnar posted...</cite> <quote>no <cite>Nomadic View posted...</cite> <quote>The woman purposely availed herself to that position, the baby did not.</quote> Doesn't matter, its still ultimately in her body. What if she decides to take up smoking and drinking? Are you going to force her to also make sure the baby is healthy?</quote> It's not a crime to drink and/or smoke while pregnant, but I wouldn't be opposed to it. Again, she purposely availed herself to the situation, it's her obligation to behave responsibly. These are the consequences of her actions.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Borgnar 05/04/17 9:23:33 PM #20:	Nomadic View posted... Borgnar posted... no Nomadic View posted... The woman purposely availed herself to that position, the baby did not. Doesn't matter, its still ultimately in her body. What if she decides to take up smoking and drinking? Are you going to force her to also make sure the baby is healthy? It's not a crime to drink and/or smoke while pregnant, but I wouldn't be opposed to it. Again, she purposely availed herself to the situation, it's her obligation to behave responsibly. These are the consequences of her actions. I don't think she's obligated to do anything. The only consequence is she now has a choice, keep it or abort it. <cite>Borgnar posted [p:878491870] in I've offic... [t:75311887]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nomadic View posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Borgnar posted...</cite> <quote>no <cite>Nomadic View posted...</cite> <quote>The woman purposely availed herself to that position, the baby did not.</quote> Doesn't matter, its still ultimately in her body. What if she decides to take up smoking and drinking? Are you going to force her to also make sure the baby is healthy?</quote> It's not a crime to drink and/or smoke while pregnant, but I wouldn't be opposed to it. Again, she purposely availed herself to the situation, it's her obligation to behave responsibly. These are the consequences of her actions.</quote> I don't think she's obligated to do anything. The only consequence is she now has a choice, keep it or abort it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nomadic View 05/04/17 9:24:26 PM #21:	UnfairRepresent posted... Nomadic View posted... Less than 1% of abortions are rape victims. If you're jumping straight to rape as a justification for abortion are you conceding that all other forms of abortion are fine it's just the rape you have an issue with? Or are you just using the most extreme example as an argument lynchpin because you're too intellectually lazy to debate the issue for what it is? Dude you went "Women put themselves in that position!" "Rape victims didn't." "OMG Is that all you can talk about!?" You're just blurting out tired stock replies. It's dumb. You're also being dishonest. Assuming you're using the Guttmacher Institute research they looking into why people were getting abortions and only 1% said "Because I was a victim of rape." Someone who says "Because I can't afford to raise the child" could still be a rape victim. Yeah, they could...but that isn't what the data suggests. You're just arbitrarily making up scenarios, without any evidence to back your claim, because the facts don't fit your narrative. --- {}\\{}(o){}\\//{}//=\\{})){}(< \\//{}{{-{}//\\{} {}xxxxxxxx{};;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;> <cite>Nomadic View posted [p:878491917] in I've offic... [t:75311887]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nomadic View posted...</cite> <quote> Less than 1% of abortions are rape victims. If you're jumping straight to rape as a justification for abortion are you conceding that all other forms of abortion are fine it's just the rape you have an issue with? Or are you just using the most extreme example as an argument lynchpin because you're too intellectually lazy to debate the issue for what it is?</quote> Dude you went "Women put themselves in that position!" "Rape victims didn't." "OMG Is that all you can talk about!?" You're just blurting out tired stock replies. It's dumb. You're also being dishonest. Assuming you're using the Guttmacher Institute research they looking into why people were getting abortions and only 1% said "Because I was a victim of rape." Someone who says "Because I can't afford to raise the child" could still be a rape victim.</quote> Yeah, they could...but that isn't what the data suggests. You're just arbitrarily making up scenarios, without any evidence to back your claim, because the facts don't fit your narrative.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YourDrunkFather 05/04/17 9:26:55 PM #22:	Nomadic View posted... Borgnar posted... no Nomadic View posted... The woman purposely availed herself to that position, the baby did not. Doesn't matter, its still ultimately in her body. What if she decides to take up smoking and drinking? Are you going to force her to also make sure the baby is healthy? It's not a crime to drink and/or smoke while pregnant, but I wouldn't be opposed to it. Again, she purposely availed herself to the situation, it's her obligation to behave responsibly. These are the consequences of her actions. But she shouldn't have to take responsibility for her actions! She's a woman! --- One bourbon,one scotch,one beer <cite>YourDrunkFather posted [p:878492028] in I've offic... [t:75311887]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nomadic View posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Borgnar posted...</cite> <quote>no <cite>Nomadic View posted...</cite> <quote>The woman purposely availed herself to that position, the baby did not.</quote> Doesn't matter, its still ultimately in her body. What if she decides to take up smoking and drinking? Are you going to force her to also make sure the baby is healthy?</quote> It's not a crime to drink and/or smoke while pregnant, but I wouldn't be opposed to it. Again, she purposely availed herself to the situation, it's her obligation to behave responsibly. These are the consequences of her actions.</quote> But she shouldn't have to take responsibility for her actions! She's a woman!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 05/04/17 9:28:47 PM #23:	Nomadic View posted... Yeah, they could...but that isn't what the data suggests. You're just arbitrarily making up scenarios, without any evidence to back your claim, because the facts don't fit your narrative. I haven't made a claim. Or constructed a narrative. Jesus stop copying and pasting generic stock replies you've seen online where they don't fit. Your research doesn't demonstrate what you want it to. All it does is demonstrate that not many women say rape is the main reason they got an abortion. Which isn't surprising. Which is on you. The point is you make the claim that it's on women to carry and give birth to the baby against their will because it's a punishment for their actions. Then you poo poo rape because you know the second you say "Well it's okay to abort if it came from rape." you've downplayed the "murder" angle and if you say "Well even though it came from rape she has to keep it." you've downplayed the responsibility angle. Either way the entire "It's the woman's fault and now she has to live with it!" is such a harmful and childish attitude. It's lazy --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:878492116] in I've offic... [t:75311887]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nomadic View posted...</cite> <quote> Yeah, they could...but that isn't what the data suggests. You're just arbitrarily making up scenarios, without any evidence to back your claim, because the facts don't fit your narrative.</quote> I haven't made a claim. Or constructed a narrative. Jesus stop copying and pasting generic stock replies you've seen online where they don't fit. Your research doesn't demonstrate what you want it to. All it does is demonstrate that not many women say rape is the main reason they got an abortion. Which isn't surprising. Which is on you. The point is you make the claim that it's on women to carry and give birth to the baby against their will because it's a punishment for their actions. Then you poo poo rape because you know the second you say "Well it's okay to abort if it came from rape." you've downplayed the "murder" angle and if you say "Well even though it came from rape she has to keep it." you've downplayed the responsibility angle. Either way the entire "It's the woman's fault and now she has to live with it!" is such a harmful and childish attitude. It's lazy</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Villain 05/04/17 9:30:09 PM #24:	Have fun subsidizing that child when the mother can't afford to ;) --- http://i.imgur.com/ZWNgMXL.jpg Formally known as Will VIIII Game Discounts + Deals: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1205-discounts-and-deals <cite>Villain posted [p:878492185] in I've offic... [t:75311887]...</cite> <quote>Have fun subsidizing that child when the mother can't afford to ;)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nomadic View 05/04/17 9:33:26 PM #25:	I have continuously used the phrase "purposeful availment." If a woman was raped, I can understand the necessity of an abortion. If a woman simply behaved irresponsibility, I am less sympathetic to her need for an abortion. --- {}\\{}(o){}\\//{}//=\\{})){}(< \\//{}{{-{}//\\{} {}xxxxxxxx{};;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;> <cite>Nomadic View posted [p:878492389] in I've offic... [t:75311887]...</cite> <quote>I have continuously used the phrase "purposeful availment." If a woman was raped, I can understand the necessity of an abortion. If a woman simply behaved irresponsibility, I am less sympathetic to her need for an abortion.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
E32005 05/04/17 9:34:20 PM #26:	ManWithGun posted... HainoRocks posted... They're doing the kid a favor in most cases. Yup because all of the 50 million children aborted in America in the last 40 something years all would have been miserable and useless to society. the 300 million we already have are miserable and useless. --- http://i.imgur.com/LAvnefi.gif http://i.imgur.com/6kW9fXL.gif <cite>E32005 posted [p:878492443] in I've offic... [t:75311887]...</cite> <quote><cite>ManWithGun posted...</cite> <quote><cite>HainoRocks posted...</cite> <quote>They're doing the kid a favor in most cases.</quote> Yup because all of the 50 million children aborted in America in the last 40 something years all would have been miserable and useless to society.</quote> the 300 million we already have are miserable and useless.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 05/04/17 9:34:41 PM #27:	So you're cool with murder so long as it follows a rape? Or are you saying it's not murder? You need to be consistent here. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:878492459] in I've offic... [t:75311887]...</cite> <quote>So you're cool with murder so long as it follows a rape? Or are you saying it's not murder? You need to be consistent here.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nomadic View 05/04/17 9:36:12 PM #28:	UnfairRepresent posted... So you're cool with murder so long as it follows a rape? Or are you saying it's not murder? You need to be consistent here. I have not once used the term "murder." But if it helps you to rationalize it, sure. --- {}\\{}(o){}\\//{}//=\\{})){}(< \\//{}{{-{}//\\{} {}xxxxxxxx{};;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;> <cite>Nomadic View posted [p:878492548] in I've offic... [t:75311887]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote>So you're cool with murder so long as it follows a rape? Or are you saying it's not murder? You need to be consistent here.</quote> I have not once used the term "murder." But if it helps you to rationalize it, sure.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kineth 05/04/17 9:38:32 PM #29:	Borgnar posted... At any stage even. I still think they are people but they have no claims to their mothers body. Thanks for getting it. --- I call them boob implants because saying I'm getting a boobilicious chest full of science isn't likely to catch your attention. -gunplagirl <cite>Kineth posted [p:878492683] in I've offic... [t:75311887]...</cite> <quote><cite>Borgnar posted...</cite> <quote>At any stage even. I still think they are people but they have no claims to their mothers body.</quote> Thanks for getting it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 05/04/17 9:40:54 PM #30:	I know. I just asked you. Because I feel your stance is the most lazy and childishly inconsistent of them all. Where you refuse to actually clarify whether or not you think aborting the fetus is murder or even that wrong so you can hold contradictory stances just to be a dick to women. I don't see how you can say "Abortion is fine for rape victims." and at the same time say carrying the baby is an obligation. You can't rationally square that circle. Which is why you continue the laziness and evade my direct question --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:878492813] in I've offic... [t:75311887]...</cite> <quote>I know. I just asked you. Because I feel your stance is the most lazy and childishly inconsistent of them all. Where you refuse to actually clarify whether or not you think aborting the fetus is murder or even that wrong so you can hold contradictory stances just to be a dick to women. I don't see how you can say "Abortion is fine for rape victims." and at the same time say carrying the baby is an obligation. You can't rationally square that circle. Which is why you continue the laziness and evade my direct question</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
smoliske 05/04/17 9:43:03 PM #31:	abortion is never ok regardless of the circumstances of conception <cite>smoliske posted [p:878492926] in I've offic... [t:75311887]...</cite> <quote>abortion is never ok regardless of the circumstances of conception</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kineth 05/04/17 9:43:59 PM #32:	smoliske posted... abortion is never ok regardless of the circumstances of conception Yes it is. --- I call them boob implants because saying I'm getting a boobilicious chest full of science isn't likely to catch your attention. -gunplagirl <cite>Kineth posted [p:878492976] in I've offic... [t:75311887]...</cite> <quote><cite>smoliske posted...</cite> <quote>abortion is never ok regardless of the circumstances of conception</quote> Yes it is.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 05/04/17 9:44:31 PM #33:	smoliske posted... abortion is never ok regardless of the circumstances of conception See this stance is consistent at least. Even though it's utterly immoral. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:878493007] in I've offic... [t:75311887]...</cite> <quote><cite>smoliske posted...</cite> <quote>abortion is never ok regardless of the circumstances of conception</quote> See this stance is consistent at least. Even though it's utterly immoral.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Medz8606 05/04/17 9:47:46 PM #34:	https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/aa/c9/05/aac90566d28693d14fc555083a89f173.jpg --- Hi <cite>Medz8606 posted [p:878493198] in I've offic... [t:75311887]...</cite> <quote>https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/aa/c9/05/aac90566d28693d14fc555083a89f173.jpg</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kineth 05/04/17 9:49:52 PM #35:	Medz8606 posted... https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/aa/c9/05/aac90566d28693d14fc555083a89f173.jpg One has a social security number, the other doesn't. Also, one has a birth certificate and the other doesn't. --- I call them boob implants because saying I'm getting a boobilicious chest full of science isn't likely to catch your attention. -gunplagirl <cite>Kineth posted [p:878493330] in I've offic... [t:75311887]...</cite> <quote><cite>Medz8606 posted...</cite> <quote>https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/aa/c9/05/aac90566d28693d14fc555083a89f173.jpg</quote> One has a social security number, the other doesn't. Also, one has a birth certificate and the other doesn't.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Medz8606 05/04/17 9:53:25 PM #36:	Kineth posted... Medz8606 posted... https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/aa/c9/05/aac90566d28693d14fc555083a89f173.jpg One has a social security number, the other doesn't. Also, one has a birth certificate and the other doesn't. Same with illegal immigrants... --- Hi <cite>Medz8606 posted [p:878493537] in I've offic... [t:75311887]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Medz8606 posted...</cite> <quote>https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/aa/c9/05/aac90566d28693d14fc555083a89f173.jpg</quote> One has a social security number, the other doesn't. Also, one has a birth certificate and the other doesn't.</quote> Same with illegal immigrants...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kineth 05/04/17 9:58:26 PM #37:	Medz8606 posted... Kineth posted... Medz8606 posted... https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/aa/c9/05/aac90566d28693d14fc555083a89f173.jpg One has a social security number, the other doesn't. Also, one has a birth certificate and the other doesn't. Same with illegal immigrants... Can't abort an illegal immigrant and the same could be said of all religions. But I'm pretty sure that illegal immigrants have birth certificates, just not ones in the country they're in. No one seems to be worried about European illegal immigrants either. --- I call them boob implants because saying I'm getting a boobilicious chest full of science isn't likely to catch your attention. -gunplagirl <cite>Kineth posted [p:878493805] in I've offic... [t:75311887]...</cite> <quote><cite>Medz8606 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Medz8606 posted...</cite> <quote>https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/aa/c9/05/aac90566d28693d14fc555083a89f173.jpg</quote> One has a social security number, the other doesn't. Also, one has a birth certificate and the other doesn't.</quote> Same with illegal immigrants...</quote> Can't abort an illegal immigrant and the same could be said of all religions. But I'm pretty sure that illegal immigrants have birth certificates, just not ones in the country they're in. No one seems to be worried about European illegal immigrants either.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
That_Happened 05/04/17 10:10:12 PM #38:	Nomadic View posted... Again, she purposely availed herself to the situation, it's her obligation to behave responsibly. These are the consequences of her actions Having an abortion is sometimes the responsible thing to do. And it's still facing the consequences. Women don't take that kind of thing lightly, and many are traumatized by it. What you want is to punish women for getting pregnant. That's not going to happen. --- http://fusionanomaly.net/magnoliabutitdidhappen.jpg <cite>That_Happened posted [p:878494390] in I've offic... [t:75311887]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nomadic View posted...</cite> <quote>Again, she purposely availed herself to the situation, it's her obligation to behave responsibly. These are the consequences of her actions</quote> Having an abortion is sometimes the responsible thing to do. And it's still facing the consequences. Women don't take that kind of thing lightly, and many are traumatized by it. What you want is to punish women for getting pregnant. That's not going to happen.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GiftedACIII 05/04/17 10:17:02 PM #39:	Medz8606 posted... https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/aa/c9/05/aac90566d28693d14fc555083a89f173.jpg Well, yeah, it really can't choose due to you know, not having a brain and all. --- </topic> <cite>GiftedACIII posted [p:878494753] in I've offic... [t:75311887]...</cite> <quote><cite>Medz8606 posted...</cite> <quote>https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/aa/c9/05/aac90566d28693d14fc555083a89f173.jpg</quote> Well, yeah, it really can't choose due to you know, not having a brain and all.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 05/04/17 10:21:05 PM #41:	That_Happened posted... Nomadic View posted... Again, she purposely availed herself to the situation, it's her obligation to behave responsibly. These are the consequences of her actions Having an abortion is sometimes the responsible thing to do. And it's still facing the consequences. Women don't take that kind of thing lightly, and many are traumatized by it. What you want is to punish women for getting pregnant. That's not going to happen. Absolutely. To repeat myself from the other topic: Look at what happened in Africa when the Catholic church went to the poorest, most uneducated, desperate people and told them that abortions are evil and condoms cause STDS. What happened in the following couple of decades? Enormous spike on rape, STDs, unwanted pregnancies, children and death via childbirth as povety rose. Know what stopped them? Atheists and humanists who while the rest of the world ignored the issue demanded that the Catholics stop lying. Which eventually they did and only just now began to curb it. We're not in the dark ages anymore. We know what STDs are + how how to prevent them, we know the risks of poverty and over-population, we know what happens to communities that have children they are not capable of raising. The standard of life for them not only is small but it without exaggeration or hyperbole, is actually bad for soceity. Giving women basic rights over their own body and repdoductive system is beneficial to the nation and ultimately the world. And if the notion of killing undeveloped fetuses bothers you, then I'd say join the club in promoting safe sex and sex education, not the club that yells at pro-choicers for being murderers. Imagine with me a world where the ONLY cases of abortion ever are: 1. Rape. 2. Mother's life is in danger. 3. The Contraception failed. The amount of abortions would be so few, that it wouldn't be a big national debate. There'd probably only be 1 clinic in each state. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:878494982] in I've offic... [t:75311887]...</cite> <quote><cite>That_Happened posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nomadic View posted...</cite> <quote>Again, she purposely availed herself to the situation, it's her obligation to behave responsibly. These are the consequences of her actions</quote> Having an abortion is sometimes the responsible thing to do. And it's still facing the consequences. Women don't take that kind of thing lightly, and many are traumatized by it. What you want is to punish women for getting pregnant. That's not going to happen.</quote> Absolutely. To repeat myself from the other topic: Look at what happened in Africa when the Catholic church went to the poorest, most uneducated, desperate people and told them that abortions are evil and condoms cause STDS. What happened in the following couple of decades? Enormous spike on rape, STDs, unwanted pregnancies, children and death via childbirth as povety rose. Know what stopped them? Atheists and humanists who while the rest of the world ignored the issue demanded that the Catholics stop lying. Which eventually they did and only just now began to curb it. We're not in the dark ages anymore. We know what STDs are + how how to prevent them, we know the risks of poverty and over-population, we know what happens to communities that have children they are not capable of raising. The standard of life for them not only is small but it without exaggeration or hyperbole, is actually bad for soceity. Giving women basic rights over their own body and repdoductive system is beneficial to the nation and ultimately the world. And if the notion of killing undeveloped fetuses bothers you, then I'd say join the club in promoting safe sex and sex education, not the club that yells at pro-choicers for being murderers. Imagine with me a world where the ONLY cases of abortion ever are: 1. Rape. 2. Mother's life is in danger. 3. The Contraception failed. The amount of abortions would be so few, that it wouldn't be a big national debate. There'd probably only be 1 clinic in each state.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Medz8606 05/04/17 10:24:45 PM #43:	https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/9b/f4/42/9bf44205290784bb766744d1ed999bd0.jpg --- Hi <cite>Medz8606 posted [p:878495188] in I've offic... [t:75311887]...</cite> <quote>https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/9b/f4/42/9bf44205290784bb766744d1ed999bd0.jpg</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GiftedACIII 05/04/17 10:25:14 PM #44:	Medz8606 posted... https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/9b/f4/42/9bf44205290784bb766744d1ed999bd0.jpg lmao that is checkmate atheist levels of stupid. I'm starting to think you're intentionally parodying abortionists --- </topic> <cite>GiftedACIII posted [p:878495222] in I've offic... [t:75311887]...</cite> <quote><cite>Medz8606 posted...</cite> <quote>https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/9b/f4/42/9bf44205290784bb766744d1ed999bd0.jpg</quote> lmao that is checkmate atheist levels of stupid. I'm starting to think you're intentionally parodying abortionists</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
super_clout 05/04/17 10:25:23 PM #45:	well i know the people i'm blocking --- FC 1891 1184 7059. IGN. Clout <cite>super_clout posted [p:878495237] in I've offic... [t:75311887]...</cite> <quote>well i know the people i'm blocking</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
marthsheretoo 05/04/17 10:28:51 PM #46:	Where do the pro-life people itt fall on 1: universal healthcare 2: Welfare 3: immortality research ? --- "Even MarthKoopa has jumped on the MarthKoopa hate wagon." -DevsBro <cite>marthsheretoo posted [p:878495458] in I've offic... [t:75311887]...</cite> <quote>Where do the pro-life people itt fall on 1: universal healthcare 2: Welfare 3: immortality research ?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Borgnar 05/04/17 10:33:01 PM #47:	leverageblargh posted... What changed your mind, @Borgnar? a little Louis CK and a little logic debate in my head but the more I thought about it, we're asking a woman to carry a baby and birth it key word asking, should we put a gun to her head and force her to live healthy and birth the child? it just gets ridiculous, it should be up to the woman how she lives and if she's actually wants to push the kid out then i thought, but what if she just get a c-section or whatever then gives it up for adoption? yeah but how are you gonna force a person to get surgery? to get cut open? so i came to the conclusion, whatever she wants is up to her <cite>Borgnar posted [p:878495668] in I've offic... [t:75311887]...</cite> <quote><cite>leverageblargh posted...</cite> <quote>What changed your mind, @Borgnar?</quote> a little Louis CK and a little logic debate in my head but the more I thought about it, we're asking a woman to carry a baby and birth it key word asking, should we put a gun to her head and force her to live healthy and birth the child? it just gets ridiculous, it should be up to the woman how she lives and if she's actually wants to push the kid out then i thought, but what if she just get a c-section or whatever then gives it up for adoption? yeah but how are you gonna force a person to get surgery? to get cut open? so i came to the conclusion, whatever she wants is up to her</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nomadic View 05/04/17 10:33:16 PM #48:	That_Happened posted... Nomadic View posted... Again, she purposely availed herself to the situation, it's her obligation to behave responsibly. These are the consequences of her actions Having an abortion is sometimes the responsible thing to do. And it's still facing the consequences. Women don't take that kind of thing lightly, and many are traumatized by it. What you want is to punish women for getting pregnant. That's not going to happen. It's not about punishment. It's about responsibility for actions. We're not taking her out and beating her like we're in Afghanistan or something. Having a child is not a punishment, but it is a consequence of actions. If it weren't for a life being taken no one would care. Pro-life people like to chant "my body my choice!" That's an oversimplified and overly broad mantra for an issue that is much more narrow. No one is saying a woman can't get her ears pierced, have her gall bladder removed, or even cut her own foot off. It's her body, it's her choice. This chant makes sense for those issues. Where it falls short is when that choice affects the life of someone else. No one is wanting to punish the female. People are looking out for the interest of the unborn child. And that's where the battlefield is. The interests of the mother verses the interests of the child. I'm not looking to convince you. But if your interested in the point of view of someone on the opposition, I'm providing it. --- {}\\{}(o){}\\//{}//=\\{})){}(< \\//{}{{-{}//\\{} {}xxxxxxxx{};;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;> <cite>Nomadic View posted [p:878495678] in I've offic... [t:75311887]...</cite> <quote><cite>That_Happened posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nomadic View posted...</cite> <quote>Again, she purposely availed herself to the situation, it's her obligation to behave responsibly. These are the consequences of her actions</quote> Having an abortion is sometimes the responsible thing to do. And it's still facing the consequences. Women don't take that kind of thing lightly, and many are traumatized by it. What you want is to punish women for getting pregnant. That's not going to happen.</quote> It's not about punishment. It's about responsibility for actions. We're not taking her out and beating her like we're in Afghanistan or something. Having a child is not a punishment, but it is a consequence of actions. If it weren't for a life being taken no one would care. Pro-life people like to chant "my body my choice!" That's an oversimplified and overly broad mantra for an issue that is much more narrow. No one is saying a woman can't get her ears pierced, have her gall bladder removed, or even cut her own foot off. It's her body, it's her choice. This chant makes sense for those issues. Where it falls short is when that choice affects the life of someone else. No one is wanting to punish the female. People are looking out for the interest of the unborn child. And that's where the battlefield is. The interests of the mother verses the interests of the child. I'm not looking to convince you. But if your interested in the point of view of someone on the opposition, I'm providing it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
3rd_Best_Master 05/04/17 10:35:02 PM #49:	Nomadic View posted... That_Happened posted... Nomadic View posted... Again, she purposely availed herself to the situation, it's her obligation to behave responsibly. These are the consequences of her actions Having an abortion is sometimes the responsible thing to do. And it's still facing the consequences. Women don't take that kind of thing lightly, and many are traumatized by it. What you want is to punish women for getting pregnant. That's not going to happen. It's not about punishment. It's about responsibility for actions. We're not taking her out and beating her like we're in Afghanistan or something. Having a child is not a punishment, but it is a consequence of actions. If it weren't for a life being taken no one would care. Pro-life people like to chant "my body my choice!" That's an oversimplified and overly broad mantra for an issue that is much more narrow. No one is saying a woman can't get her ears pierced, have her gall bladder removed, or even cur her own foot off. It's her body, it's her choice. This chant makes sense for those issues. Where it falls short is when that choice affects the life of someone else. No one is wanting to punish the female. People are looking out for the interest of the unborn child. And that's where the battlefield is. The interests of the mother verses the interests of the child. I'm not looking to convince you. But if your interested in the point of view of someone on the opposition, I'm providing it. Are you also in favor of the male paying child support until the kid turns 18? --- You've fought the strongest, the second strongest, the fourth strongest, and the weakest master! Now you see the true advantage of being third strongest master! <cite>3rd_Best_Master posted [p:878495787] in I've offic... [t:75311887]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nomadic View posted...</cite> <quote><cite>That_Happened posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nomadic View posted...</cite> <quote>Again, she purposely availed herself to the situation, it's her obligation to behave responsibly. These are the consequences of her actions</quote> Having an abortion is sometimes the responsible thing to do. And it's still facing the consequences. Women don't take that kind of thing lightly, and many are traumatized by it. What you want is to punish women for getting pregnant. That's not going to happen.</quote> It's not about punishment. It's about responsibility for actions. We're not taking her out and beating her like we're in Afghanistan or something. Having a child is not a punishment, but it is a consequence of actions. If it weren't for a life being taken no one would care. Pro-life people like to chant "my body my choice!" That's an oversimplified and overly broad mantra for an issue that is much more narrow. No one is saying a woman can't get her ears pierced, have her gall bladder removed, or even cur her own foot off. It's her body, it's her choice. This chant makes sense for those issues. Where it falls short is when that choice affects the life of someone else. No one is wanting to punish the female. People are looking out for the interest of the unborn child. And that's where the battlefield is. The interests of the mother verses the interests of the child. I'm not looking to convince you. But if your interested in the point of view of someone on the opposition, I'm providing it.</quote> Are you also in favor of the male paying child support until the kid turns 18?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nomadic View 05/04/17 10:35:49 PM #50:	Yes --- {}\\{}(o){}\\//{}//=\\{})){}(< \\//{}{{-{}//\\{} {}xxxxxxxx{};;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;> <cite>Nomadic View posted [p:878495832] in I've offic... [t:75311887]...</cite> <quote>Yes</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
I4NRulez 05/04/17 10:48:43 PM #51:	Nomadic View posted... Pro-life people like to chant "my body my choice!" That's an oversimplified and overly broad mantra for an issue that is much more narrow. No one is saying a woman can't get her ears pierced, have her gall bladder removed, or even cut her own foot off. It's her body, it's her choice. This chant makes sense for those issues. Where it falls short is when that choice affects the life of someone else. Umm, the issue of abortions being legal is not the same as piercing an ear. Not everyone who has an abortion is someone who just didnt use protection and dont want a baby. Some people cannot afford it, some people can be put in danger by having a baby, some people arent properly educated and scared. There isnt 1 simple reason for people to have it. The other issue is that even if abortion is illegal women are still going to have them. So now instead of letting women have abortions in safety and legally, you know have thousands of women searching for illegal means to have them which can lead to things like infections, long term consequences, or even death. People cant even agree where life begins. Does it begin at conception? Does it begin when the heart beats? Does it begin when the fetus is fully formed? You're over simplifying a complex issue here. Not everyone who has an abortion is someone who just forgot to use a condom. --- The night brims with defiled scum,and is permeated by their rotten stench. Just think. Now you're all set to hunt and kill to your heart's content. <cite>I4NRulez posted [p:878496537] in I've offic... [t:75311887]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nomadic View posted...</cite> <quote>Pro-life people like to chant "my body my choice!" That's an oversimplified and overly broad mantra for an issue that is much more narrow. No one is saying a woman can't get her ears pierced, have her gall bladder removed, or even cut her own foot off. It's her body, it's her choice. This chant makes sense for those issues. Where it falls short is when that choice affects the life of someone else.</quote> Umm, the issue of abortions being legal is not the same as piercing an ear. Not everyone who has an abortion is someone who just didnt use protection and dont want a baby. Some people cannot afford it, some people can be put in danger by having a baby, some people arent properly educated and scared. There isnt 1 simple reason for people to have it. The other issue is that even if abortion is illegal women are still going to have them. So now instead of letting women have abortions in safety and legally, you know have thousands of women searching for illegal means to have them which can lead to things like infections, long term consequences, or even death. People cant even agree where life begins. Does it begin at conception? Does it begin when the heart beats? Does it begin when the fetus is fully formed? You're over simplifying a complex issue here. Not everyone who has an abortion is someone who just forgot to use a condom.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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