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Damn_Underscore
05/04/17 3:28:03 PM
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And that's a low estimate, Stalin is said to have killed 23 million people and Mao is said to have killed anywhere from 49 to 78 million people

Many people totally ignore this and act like Stalin and Mao weren't that evil. Sad.
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ASithLord7
05/04/17 3:28:51 PM
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I can't say i've ever seen this. Ever.
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05/04/17 3:29:22 PM
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ThanksUglyGod
05/04/17 3:31:45 PM
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Why does no one care that Damn_Underscore still somehow has an account here?
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CW_McGraw
05/04/17 3:32:59 PM
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There's a lotta fuckin Chinese people, dude. Anyone that goes even a little genocidey is bound to get at least ten million or so. That ain't on Communism.
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garan
05/04/17 3:33:36 PM
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You can't convince some people that Communism doesn't work.
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green butter
05/04/17 3:33:46 PM
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MARKINGRAM22
05/04/17 3:33:56 PM
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Cause communism won in WW2 so it had the right to morph history to a degree. 100s of millions have died from it, they abandoned the idea it was for workers during mass famine and death and had to latch onto identity politics. In all reality communism had worse results than even nazism yet you can see prominent celebrities push it with support.
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MARKINGRAM22
05/04/17 3:35:05 PM
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CW_McGraw posted...
There's a lotta fuckin Chinese people, dude. Anyone that goes even a little genocidey is bound to get at least ten million or so. That ain't on Communism.


Genocide is part of communism. It is based on violent take overs and rule by force.
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Esrac
05/04/17 3:35:27 PM
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I don't know if I'd say people would argue Stalin and Mao weren't very evil. The most that seems to happen is Communist activists kind of turn a blind eye to the atrocities committed by Communist regimes or try to disassociate the atrocities from Communism, pull a whataboutism with Capitalism, or try to dismiss them as not really Communists.

And I don't know how many go that far.
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Antifar
05/04/17 3:36:30 PM
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I've got no time for the Tankies who defend the bullshit of Stalin and Mao.
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ASithLord7
05/04/17 3:37:29 PM
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MARKINGRAM22 posted...
Cause communism won in WW2 so it had the right to morph history to a degree. 100s of millions have died from it, they abandoned the idea it was for workers during mass famine and death and had to latch onto identity politics. In all reality communism had worse results than even nazism yet you can see prominent celebrities push it with support.

Link to said "prominent communist celebrities"
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Paragon21XX
05/04/17 3:41:23 PM
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Because modern day communists commit the "No True Communist" fallacy.
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Nukleen
05/04/17 3:51:06 PM
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Because it wasn't real communism
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Annihilated
05/04/17 3:51:42 PM
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ModLogic
05/04/17 3:52:55 PM
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why do americans have trouble admitting the second bomb on japan was a was crime? why is america taught alternative history?
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Microwaved_Eggs
05/04/17 4:10:30 PM
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im a socialist and i care
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averagejoel
05/04/17 4:13:23 PM
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Stalin killed 100 BILLION people. he ATE all the GRAIN HIMSELF and PERSONALLY PAID the CLOUDS not to RAIN
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averagejoel
05/04/17 4:14:58 PM
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but in all seriousness, a significant amount of the stuff that gets thrown around about Stalin is lies based on a Nazi disinformation campaign

I don't know much about Mao though, so I won't say anything about him
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ASithLord7
05/04/17 6:17:58 PM
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averagejoel posted...
but in all seriousness, a significant amount of the stuff that gets thrown around about Stalin is lies based on a Nazi disinformation campaign

I don't know much about Mao though, so I won't say anything about him

No it isnt
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lolamerica
05/04/17 6:20:18 PM
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lol it isn't nazi propaganda at all
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The Great Muta 22
05/04/17 6:23:12 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
Many people totally ignore this and act like Stalin and Mao weren't that evil. Sad.


Who says this?

MARKINGRAM22 posted...
prominent celebrities push it with support.


Who?
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wah_wah_wah
05/04/17 6:24:42 PM
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Annihilated posted...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUGkKKAogDs

Because without the communists having killed the Nazis they'd likely be here to this day. Which wouldn't be so bad according to the maker of this boring YouTube video.
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Annihilated
05/04/17 6:39:55 PM
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wah_wah_wah posted...
Annihilated posted...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUGkKKAogDs

Because without the communists having killed the Nazis they'd likely be here to this day. Which wouldn't be so bad according to the maker of this boring YouTube video.


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wah_wah_wah
05/04/17 6:41:20 PM
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Annihilated posted...
wah_wah_wah posted...
Annihilated posted...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUGkKKAogDs

Because without the communists having killed the Nazis they'd likely be here to this day. Which wouldn't be so bad according to the maker of this boring YouTube video.


User name fits post.

Continue watching old men prattle on about shit they know nothing about on YouTube, I guess. There's only about five million more lonely old men to listen to.
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CowboyDan
05/04/17 6:42:57 PM
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MARKINGRAM22 posted...
Cause communism won in WW2 so it had the right to morph history to a degree. 100s of millions have died from it, they abandoned the idea it was for workers during mass famine and death and had to latch onto identity politics. In all reality communism had worse results than even nazism yet you can see prominent celebrities push it with support.

This guy things Mussolini was a socialist and that Fascism is far left.
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Veggeta_MAX
05/04/17 6:43:44 PM
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CW_McGraw posted...
There's a lotta fuckin Chinese people, dude. Anyone that goes even a little genocidey is bound to get at least ten million or so. That ain't on Communism.

Got em!
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wah_wah_wah
05/04/17 6:44:21 PM
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CowboyDan posted...
MARKINGRAM22 posted...
Cause communism won in WW2 so it had the right to morph history to a degree. 100s of millions have died from it, they abandoned the idea it was for workers during mass famine and death and had to latch onto identity politics. In all reality communism had worse results than even nazism yet you can see prominent celebrities push it with support.

This guy things Mussolini was a socialist and that Fascism is far left.

Pretty much everything around that time was considerably further to the left than it is today. Even this country.
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CowboyDan
05/04/17 6:46:13 PM
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wah_wah_wah posted...
CowboyDan posted...
MARKINGRAM22 posted...
Cause communism won in WW2 so it had the right to morph history to a degree. 100s of millions have died from it, they abandoned the idea it was for workers during mass famine and death and had to latch onto identity politics. In all reality communism had worse results than even nazism yet you can see prominent celebrities push it with support.

This guy things Mussolini was a socialist and that Fascism is far left.

Pretty much everything around that time was considerably further to the left than it is today.

Not really. Some countries were, but there isn't a modern equivalent to Fascism.
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wah_wah_wah
05/04/17 6:53:25 PM
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CowboyDan posted...
wah_wah_wah posted...
CowboyDan posted...
MARKINGRAM22 posted...
Cause communism won in WW2 so it had the right to morph history to a degree. 100s of millions have died from it, they abandoned the idea it was for workers during mass famine and death and had to latch onto identity politics. In all reality communism had worse results than even nazism yet you can see prominent celebrities push it with support.

This guy things Mussolini was a socialist and that Fascism is far left.

Pretty much everything around that time was considerably further to the left than it is today.

Not really. Some countries were, but there isn't a modern equivalent to Fascism.

There were a ton of leftists within Nazism. Mussolini and especially Hitler were not free enterprise dudes.
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CowboyDan
05/04/17 7:00:32 PM
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wah_wah_wah posted...
CowboyDan posted...
wah_wah_wah posted...
CowboyDan posted...
MARKINGRAM22 posted...
Cause communism won in WW2 so it had the right to morph history to a degree. 100s of millions have died from it, they abandoned the idea it was for workers during mass famine and death and had to latch onto identity politics. In all reality communism had worse results than even nazism yet you can see prominent celebrities push it with support.

This guy things Mussolini was a socialist and that Fascism is far left.

Pretty much everything around that time was considerably further to the left than it is today.

Not really. Some countries were, but there isn't a modern equivalent to Fascism.

There were a ton of leftists within Nazism. Mussolini and especially Hitler were not free enterprise dudes.

Left/right politics isn't contained to economics.
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ZombiePelican
05/04/17 7:00:43 PM
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averagejoel
05/04/17 7:14:07 PM
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ASithLord7 posted...
averagejoel posted...
but in all seriousness, a significant amount of the stuff that gets thrown around about Stalin is lies based on a Nazi disinformation campaign

I don't know much about Mao though, so I won't say anything about him

No it isnt

Yes it is. One of the major historians on the subject, Robert Conquest, used Nazi collaborators as major sources for his books
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3rd_Best_Master
05/04/17 7:15:50 PM
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ZombiePelican posted...
qRmoHXL

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metralo
05/04/17 7:16:43 PM
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communism is the best ideology by far. capitalism has killed far, far, far more people than anything related to communism.
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Hexenherz
05/04/17 7:17:12 PM
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Russians themselves adore Stalin xfd
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Returning_CEmen
05/04/17 7:17:15 PM
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How many memorials are there for that 72+ million?
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YellowSUV
05/04/17 7:17:19 PM
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Because they did not fight the United States in WWII. Also, China is famous for people constantly dying in massive numbers throughout all of history.
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ASithLord7
05/04/17 7:17:57 PM
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averagejoel posted...
ASithLord7 posted...
averagejoel posted...
but in all seriousness, a significant amount of the stuff that gets thrown around about Stalin is lies based on a Nazi disinformation campaign

I don't know much about Mao though, so I won't say anything about him

No it isnt

Yes it is. One of the major historians on the subject, Robert Conquest, used Nazi collaborators as major sources for his books

Source that shows his works are false? Because all the Google results are from jacobinmag and other dipshit communist/socialist websites. And looking at Wikipedia, it looks like his numbers are even low compared to others:
Several scholars, among them Stalin biographer Simon Sebag Montefiore, former Politburo member Alexander Nikolaevich Yakovlev and the director of Yale's "Annals of Communism" series Jonathan Brent, put the death toll at about 20 million. Robert Conquest, in the latest revision (2007) of his book The Great Terror, estimates that while exact numbers will never be certain, the communist leaders of the USSR were responsible for no fewer than 15 million deaths.

But I guess your hard-on for the USSR gives you greater insight into the historicity of these incidents than actual academics.
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NinjaBreakfast
05/04/17 7:18:15 PM
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MARKINGRAM22 posted...
Cause communism won in WW2 so it had the right to morph history to a degree. 100s of millions have died from it, they abandoned the idea it was for workers during mass famine and death and had to latch onto identity politics. In all reality communism had worse results than even nazism yet you can see prominent celebrities push it with support.

holy shit lol is this a real post

Antifar posted...
I've got no time for the Tankies who defend the bullshit of Stalin and Mao.

yeah tankies are the worst tbh. I feel it's also one of those things ppl do 'ironically' for so long that they eventually start doing it unironically
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CrimsonAngeI
05/04/17 7:22:20 PM
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Because a lot of those deaths are results of poor planning and Stalin's paranoia and not inherently the blame of communism.
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wah_wah_wah
05/04/17 7:48:32 PM
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CowboyDan posted...
wah_wah_wah posted...
CowboyDan posted...
wah_wah_wah posted...
CowboyDan posted...
MARKINGRAM22 posted...
Cause communism won in WW2 so it had the right to morph history to a degree. 100s of millions have died from it, they abandoned the idea it was for workers during mass famine and death and had to latch onto identity politics. In all reality communism had worse results than even nazism yet you can see prominent celebrities push it with support.

This guy things Mussolini was a socialist and that Fascism is far left.

Pretty much everything around that time was considerably further to the left than it is today.

Not really. Some countries were, but there isn't a modern equivalent to Fascism.

There were a ton of leftists within Nazism. Mussolini and especially Hitler were not free enterprise dudes.

Left/right politics isn't contained to economics.

Um a pretty big indicator of right wing politics is constantly extolling the free market ideals. Which Hitler deplored the free market and capitalism. He sought an agrarian total war state.
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Monolith1676
05/04/17 8:17:18 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqB-EMqpsUA


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MaverickXeo
05/04/17 8:23:39 PM
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metralo posted...
communism is the best ideology by far. capitalism has killed far, far, far more people than anything related to communism.


...But we wont progress under communism. Communist nations rarely do well (have any been at all?) and capitalist nations tend to push innovation and technology.
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uwnim
05/04/17 8:30:48 PM
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The problem with communism and the like is that they try to implement post-capitalistic policies without the technology needed for them to actually work. Proper way is to use capitalism to push advancement until we can get to a point where labor has no actual value and the system collapses.
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Hexenherz
05/04/17 8:36:57 PM
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Anyone who says communism is good doesn't understand how "communism" works, jfc am I in high school again?
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Zero_Destroyer
05/04/17 8:39:51 PM
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ZombiePelican posted...
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what the fuck is this nonsense

half of that shit has nothing to do with capitalism as a system
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sutree
05/04/17 8:40:31 PM
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CW_McGraw posted...
There's a lotta fuckin Chinese people, dude. Anyone that goes even a little genocidey is bound to get at least ten million or so.

lmao
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ASithLord7
05/04/17 8:41:05 PM
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Hexenherz posted...
Anyone who says communism is good doesn't understand how "communism" works, jfc am I in high school again?

mfw people don't know who metralo is
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