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Damn_Underscore 05/04/17 3:28:03 PM #1: |
And that's a low estimate, Stalin is said to have killed 23 million people and Mao is said to have killed anywhere from 49 to 78 million people
Many people totally ignore this and act like Stalin and Mao weren't that evil. Sad. --- Shenmue II = best game of all time Shenmue = 2nd best game of all time ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ASithLord7 05/04/17 3:28:51 PM #2: |
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eston 05/04/17 3:29:22 PM #3: |
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ThanksUglyGod 05/04/17 3:31:45 PM #5: |
Why does no one care that Damn_Underscore still somehow has an account here?
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CW_McGraw 05/04/17 3:32:59 PM #6: |
There's a lotta fuckin Chinese people, dude. Anyone that goes even a little genocidey is bound to get at least ten million or so. That ain't on Communism.
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garan 05/04/17 3:33:36 PM #7: |
You can't convince some people that Communism doesn't work.
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green butter 05/04/17 3:33:46 PM #8: |
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MARKINGRAM22 05/04/17 3:33:56 PM #9: |
Cause communism won in WW2 so it had the right to morph history to a degree. 100s of millions have died from it, they abandoned the idea it was for workers during mass famine and death and had to latch onto identity politics. In all reality communism had worse results than even nazism yet you can see prominent celebrities push it with support.
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MARKINGRAM22 05/04/17 3:35:05 PM #10: |
CW_McGraw posted...
There's a lotta fuckin Chinese people, dude. Anyone that goes even a little genocidey is bound to get at least ten million or so. That ain't on Communism. Genocide is part of communism. It is based on violent take overs and rule by force. --- "That man practices Islam. Are you happy he was taken out since according to you he believes what terrorists do?" -VipaGTS to me ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Esrac 05/04/17 3:35:27 PM #11: |
I don't know if I'd say people would argue Stalin and Mao weren't very evil. The most that seems to happen is Communist activists kind of turn a blind eye to the atrocities committed by Communist regimes or try to disassociate the atrocities from Communism, pull a whataboutism with Capitalism, or try to dismiss them as not really Communists.
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Antifar 05/04/17 3:36:30 PM #12: |
I've got no time for the Tankies who defend the bullshit of Stalin and Mao.
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ASithLord7 05/04/17 3:37:29 PM #13: |
MARKINGRAM22 posted...
Cause communism won in WW2 so it had the right to morph history to a degree. 100s of millions have died from it, they abandoned the idea it was for workers during mass famine and death and had to latch onto identity politics. In all reality communism had worse results than even nazism yet you can see prominent celebrities push it with support. Link to said "prominent communist celebrities" --- http://i.imgur.com/VZeCB.gif RebelElite791 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Paragon21XX 05/04/17 3:41:23 PM #14: |
Because modern day communists commit the "No True Communist" fallacy.
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Nukleen 05/04/17 3:51:06 PM #15: |
Because it wasn't real communism
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Annihilated 05/04/17 3:51:42 PM #16: |
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ModLogic 05/04/17 3:52:55 PM #17: |
why do americans have trouble admitting the second bomb on japan was a was crime? why is america taught alternative history?
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Microwaved_Eggs 05/04/17 4:10:30 PM #18: |
im a socialist and i care
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averagejoel 05/04/17 4:13:23 PM #19: |
Stalin killed 100 BILLION people. he ATE all the GRAIN HIMSELF and PERSONALLY PAID the CLOUDS not to RAIN
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averagejoel 05/04/17 4:14:58 PM #20: |
but in all seriousness, a significant amount of the stuff that gets thrown around about Stalin is lies based on a Nazi disinformation campaign
I don't know much about Mao though, so I won't say anything about him --- peanut butter and dick ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ASithLord7 05/04/17 6:17:58 PM #21: |
averagejoel posted...
but in all seriousness, a significant amount of the stuff that gets thrown around about Stalin is lies based on a Nazi disinformation campaign No it isnt --- http://i.imgur.com/VZeCB.gif RebelElite791 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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lolamerica 05/04/17 6:20:18 PM #22: |
lol it isn't nazi propaganda at all
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The Great Muta 22 05/04/17 6:23:12 PM #23: |
Damn_Underscore posted...
Many people totally ignore this and act like Stalin and Mao weren't that evil. Sad. Who says this? MARKINGRAM22 posted... prominent celebrities push it with support. Who? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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wah_wah_wah 05/04/17 6:24:42 PM #24: |
Annihilated posted...
Because without the communists having killed the Nazis they'd likely be here to this day. Which wouldn't be so bad according to the maker of this boring YouTube video. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Annihilated 05/04/17 6:39:55 PM #25: |
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wah_wah_wah 05/04/17 6:41:20 PM #26: |
Annihilated posted...
wah_wah_wah posted...Annihilated posted... Continue watching old men prattle on about shit they know nothing about on YouTube, I guess. There's only about five million more lonely old men to listen to. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CowboyDan 05/04/17 6:42:57 PM #27: |
MARKINGRAM22 posted...
Cause communism won in WW2 so it had the right to morph history to a degree. 100s of millions have died from it, they abandoned the idea it was for workers during mass famine and death and had to latch onto identity politics. In all reality communism had worse results than even nazism yet you can see prominent celebrities push it with support. This guy things Mussolini was a socialist and that Fascism is far left. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.2 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Veggeta_MAX 05/04/17 6:43:44 PM #28: |
CW_McGraw posted...
There's a lotta fuckin Chinese people, dude. Anyone that goes even a little genocidey is bound to get at least ten million or so. That ain't on Communism. Got em! --- I'm Veggeta X's alt FFBE ID: 196 912 851 900+ ATK Orlandu ... Copied to Clipboard!
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wah_wah_wah 05/04/17 6:44:21 PM #29: |
CowboyDan posted...
MARKINGRAM22 posted...Cause communism won in WW2 so it had the right to morph history to a degree. 100s of millions have died from it, they abandoned the idea it was for workers during mass famine and death and had to latch onto identity politics. In all reality communism had worse results than even nazism yet you can see prominent celebrities push it with support. Pretty much everything around that time was considerably further to the left than it is today. Even this country. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CowboyDan 05/04/17 6:46:13 PM #30: |
wah_wah_wah posted...
CowboyDan posted...MARKINGRAM22 posted... Not really. Some countries were, but there isn't a modern equivalent to Fascism. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.2 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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wah_wah_wah 05/04/17 6:53:25 PM #31: |
CowboyDan posted...
wah_wah_wah posted...CowboyDan posted...MARKINGRAM22 posted... There were a ton of leftists within Nazism. Mussolini and especially Hitler were not free enterprise dudes. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CowboyDan 05/04/17 7:00:32 PM #32: |
wah_wah_wah posted...
CowboyDan posted...wah_wah_wah posted... Left/right politics isn't contained to economics. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.2 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZombiePelican 05/04/17 7:00:43 PM #33: |
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averagejoel 05/04/17 7:14:07 PM #34: |
ASithLord7 posted...
averagejoel posted...but in all seriousness, a significant amount of the stuff that gets thrown around about Stalin is lies based on a Nazi disinformation campaign Yes it is. One of the major historians on the subject, Robert Conquest, used Nazi collaborators as major sources for his books --- peanut butter and dick ... Copied to Clipboard!
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3rd_Best_Master 05/04/17 7:15:50 PM #35: |
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metralo 05/04/17 7:16:43 PM #36: |
communism is the best ideology by far. capitalism has killed far, far, far more people than anything related to communism.
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Hexenherz 05/04/17 7:17:12 PM #37: |
Russians themselves adore Stalin xfd
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Returning_CEmen 05/04/17 7:17:15 PM #38: |
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YellowSUV 05/04/17 7:17:19 PM #39: |
Because they did not fight the United States in WWII. Also, China is famous for people constantly dying in massive numbers throughout all of history.
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ASithLord7 05/04/17 7:17:57 PM #40: |
averagejoel posted...
ASithLord7 posted...averagejoel posted...but in all seriousness, a significant amount of the stuff that gets thrown around about Stalin is lies based on a Nazi disinformation campaign Source that shows his works are false? Because all the Google results are from jacobinmag and other dipshit communist/socialist websites. And looking at Wikipedia, it looks like his numbers are even low compared to others: Several scholars, among them Stalin biographer Simon Sebag Montefiore, former Politburo member Alexander Nikolaevich Yakovlev and the director of Yale's "Annals of Communism" series Jonathan Brent, put the death toll at about 20 million. Robert Conquest, in the latest revision (2007) of his book The Great Terror, estimates that while exact numbers will never be certain, the communist leaders of the USSR were responsible for no fewer than 15 million deaths. But I guess your hard-on for the USSR gives you greater insight into the historicity of these incidents than actual academics. --- http://i.imgur.com/VZeCB.gif RebelElite791 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NinjaBreakfast 05/04/17 7:18:15 PM #41: |
MARKINGRAM22 posted...
Cause communism won in WW2 so it had the right to morph history to a degree. 100s of millions have died from it, they abandoned the idea it was for workers during mass famine and death and had to latch onto identity politics. In all reality communism had worse results than even nazism yet you can see prominent celebrities push it with support. holy shit lol is this a real post Antifar posted... I've got no time for the Tankies who defend the bullshit of Stalin and Mao. yeah tankies are the worst tbh. I feel it's also one of those things ppl do 'ironically' for so long that they eventually start doing it unironically --- http://i.imgur.com/nGZeEqw.png Do you really think you can beat me? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CrimsonAngeI 05/04/17 7:22:20 PM #42: |
Because a lot of those deaths are results of poor planning and Stalin's paranoia and not inherently the blame of communism.
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wah_wah_wah 05/04/17 7:48:32 PM #43: |
CowboyDan posted...
wah_wah_wah posted...CowboyDan posted...wah_wah_wah posted... Um a pretty big indicator of right wing politics is constantly extolling the free market ideals. Which Hitler deplored the free market and capitalism. He sought an agrarian total war state. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Monolith1676 05/04/17 8:17:18 PM #44: |
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MaverickXeo 05/04/17 8:23:39 PM #45: |
metralo posted...
communism is the best ideology by far. capitalism has killed far, far, far more people than anything related to communism. ...But we wont progress under communism. Communist nations rarely do well (have any been at all?) and capitalist nations tend to push innovation and technology. --- --- MaverickXeo --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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uwnim 05/04/17 8:30:48 PM #46: |
The problem with communism and the like is that they try to implement post-capitalistic policies without the technology needed for them to actually work. Proper way is to use capitalism to push advancement until we can get to a point where labor has no actual value and the system collapses.
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Hexenherz 05/04/17 8:36:57 PM #47: |
Anyone who says communism is good doesn't understand how "communism" works, jfc am I in high school again?
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Zero_Destroyer 05/04/17 8:39:51 PM #48: |
ZombiePelican posted...
what the fuck is this nonsense half of that shit has nothing to do with capitalism as a system --- Enjoy movies and television? Check out my blog! I do reviews and analyses. http://fictionrantreview.wordpress.com/ (The Force Awakens spoiler review up!) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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sutree 05/04/17 8:40:31 PM #49: |
CW_McGraw posted...
There's a lotta fuckin Chinese people, dude. Anyone that goes even a little genocidey is bound to get at least ten million or so. lmao --- It's just that bird law in this country-- it's not governed by reason http://i.imgur.com/J0qoWIu.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ASithLord7 05/04/17 8:41:05 PM #50: |
Hexenherz posted...
Anyone who says communism is good doesn't understand how "communism" works, jfc am I in high school again? mfw people don't know who metralo is --- http://i.imgur.com/VZeCB.gif RebelElite791 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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