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Saloonist 04/27/17 6:37:29 PM #1:	I don't consider myself a hawk, but I absolutely think we have to go to war with North Korea now. I know that this will mean potentially the deaths of millions, the partial destruction of Seoul, and a chance of nuclear war on the Korean peninsula, but we've reached a point where I no longer believe war is avoidable and the alternative to war is unacceptable. North Korea is not only terrifyingly close to obtaining the capability of striking the United States with nuclear weapons, it is not far off from developing hydrogen bombs which would be absolutely devastating if fired. Only a few countries have capabilities of this sort: the US and its allies, China, and Russia. Say what you will about China and Russia, but they are mostly rational actors with goals and ambitions that we can identify and relate to. North Korea on the other hand is run by a tyrannical god-emperor who crushes his people into the dirt to gratify himself. We know next to nothing about the internal operations of the North Koreans. We don't know how extreme they really are. We dont know their intentions or the extent of their ambitions, and they prevent us from knowing by closing themselves off from the world and constantly casting out threats of nuclear Holocaust. Now they may soon have the capabilities to enact this Holocaust I don't think that diplomacy can solve this issue. Diplomacy failed to stop their nuclear program, and now they have these weapons. It failed to prevent them from building systems which could deliver them internationally. Meanwhile, it has used these programs to extract resources from the West. Sanctions have only hurt the poor, and when the situation of the poor becomes too deprived to handle, the soft heart of the West intervenes to save them with humanitarian aid. The North Koreans know that they cannot defeat us. They know that they what we want most is the destruction of their regime. But they also know that we will cave in because we are not willing to expend our blood to destroy them. They know we would rather pay them off. We will save their own people for them, the very soldiers they would employ against us in a war. So why would they stop now? Nuclear weapons and the artillery pointed at Seoul have preserved them this long and kept their people hoatages. How much more will they be able to extract when they have the technology to turn Los Angeles or San Francisco into burnt rubble with a single blow. Diplomacy at this point will merely kick the can down the road until we are no better than the starving peasant held hostage within Kim Jung Un's domain. It is clear to me that accepting stalemate in Korea in the 50s turned out to be a huge strategic error. To allow it to go on for so long while the North Koreans obtained nuclear weapons was a terrible abdication of our security. To allow it to go on any further may prove to be absolutely catastrophic. --- BasileosPetros, KhanofKhans, CokeZero, and many more <cite>Saloonist posted [p:878030336] in We should ... [t:75286217]...</cite> <quote>I don't consider myself a hawk, but I absolutely think we have to go to war with North Korea now. I know that this will mean potentially the deaths of millions, the partial destruction of Seoul, and a chance of nuclear war on the Korean peninsula, but we've reached a point where I no longer believe war is avoidable and the alternative to war is unacceptable. North Korea is not only terrifyingly close to obtaining the capability of striking the United States with nuclear weapons, it is not far off from developing hydrogen bombs which would be absolutely devastating if fired. Only a few countries have capabilities of this sort: the US and its allies, China, and Russia. Say what you will about China and Russia, but they are mostly rational actors with goals and ambitions that we can identify and relate to. North Korea on the other hand is run by a tyrannical god-emperor who crushes his people into the dirt to gratify himself. We know next to nothing about the internal operations of the North Koreans. We don't know how extreme they really are. We dont know their intentions or the extent of their ambitions, and they prevent us from knowing by closing themselves off from the world and constantly casting out threats of nuclear Holocaust. Now they may soon have the capabilities to enact this Holocaust I don't think that diplomacy can solve this issue. Diplomacy failed to stop their nuclear program, and now they have these weapons. It failed to prevent them from building systems which could deliver them internationally. Meanwhile, it has used these programs to extract resources from the West. Sanctions have only hurt the poor, and when the situation of the poor becomes too deprived to handle, the soft heart of the West intervenes to save them with humanitarian aid. The North Koreans know that they cannot defeat us. They know that they what we want most is the destruction of their regime. But they also know that we will cave in because we are not willing to expend our blood to destroy them. They know we would rather pay them off. We will save their own people for them, the very soldiers they would employ against us in a war. So why would they stop now? Nuclear weapons and the artillery pointed at Seoul have preserved them this long and kept their people hoatages. How much more will they be able to extract when they have the technology to turn Los Angeles or San Francisco into burnt rubble with a single blow. Diplomacy at this point will merely kick the can down the road until we are no better than the starving peasant held hostage within Kim Jung Un's domain. It is clear to me that accepting stalemate in Korea in the 50s turned out to be a huge strategic error. To allow it to go on for so long while the North Koreans obtained nuclear weapons was a terrible abdication of our security. To allow it to go on any further may prove to be absolutely catastrophic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Duncanwii 04/27/17 6:42:58 PM #2:	As unfortunate as a situation it is, this may be a repeat of the defeat of Japan in the 1940's. A preemptive nuclear strike may be our only option as terrible as a precedent it sets. --- This is my year of Pokemon! Pokemon games I'm playing: Black, Emerald, Platinum. <cite>Duncanwii posted [p:878030709] in We should ... [t:75286217]...</cite> <quote>As unfortunate as a situation it is, this may be a repeat of the defeat of Japan in the 1940's. A preemptive nuclear strike may be our only option as terrible as a precedent it sets.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MJ_Max 04/27/17 6:43:35 PM #3:	Duncanwii posted... As unfortunate as a situation it is, this may be a repeat of the defeat of Japan in the 1940's. A preemptive nuclear strike may be our only option as terrible as a precedent it sets. fuck that noise <cite>MJ_Max posted [p:878030752] in We should ... [t:75286217]...</cite> <quote><cite>Duncanwii posted...</cite> <quote>As unfortunate as a situation it is, this may be a repeat of the defeat of Japan in the 1940's. A preemptive nuclear strike may be our only option as terrible as a precedent it sets.</quote> fuck that noise</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CrimsonAngeI 04/27/17 6:44:05 PM #4:	Duncanwii posted... As unfortunate as a situation it is, this may be a repeat of the defeat of Japan in the 1940's. A preemptive nuclear strike may be our only option as terrible as a precedent it sets. Yeah I'm sure China would be thrilled with a nuke dropped on their doorstep. --- Why am I here? <cite>CrimsonAngeI posted [p:878030787] in We should ... [t:75286217]...</cite> <quote><cite>Duncanwii posted...</cite> <quote>As unfortunate as a situation it is, this may be a repeat of the defeat of Japan in the 1940's. A preemptive nuclear strike may be our only option as terrible as a precedent it sets.</quote> Yeah I'm sure China would be thrilled with a nuke dropped on their doorstep.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Psycho_Poodle 04/27/17 6:45:59 PM #5:	Assassinate the fat fuck --- ../\|,-``\(o)_\,----,,,_.. ( `\(o),,_/` : o : : :o `-, ...I'm watching you... scum. <cite>Psycho_Poodle posted [p:878030897] in We should ... [t:75286217]...</cite> <quote>Assassinate the fat fuck</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
legendarylemur 04/27/17 6:46:08 PM #6:	Imagine thinking North Korea can attack Los Angeles or San Francisco, especially to the point of "burnt rubble." I'm actually for reals sure that you have exactly the same mindset as Trump himself --- "Iwata was awesome" - Mr. Nintendo dinglebutt <cite>legendarylemur posted [p:878030906] in We should ... [t:75286217]...</cite> <quote>Imagine thinking North Korea can attack Los Angeles or San Francisco, especially to the point of "burnt rubble." I'm actually for reals sure that you have exactly the same mindset as Trump himself</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Duncanwii 04/27/17 6:46:10 PM #7:	MJ_Max posted... Duncanwii posted... As unfortunate as a situation it is, this may be a repeat of the defeat of Japan in the 1940's. A preemptive nuclear strike may be our only option as terrible as a precedent it sets. fuck that noise The North Korean people will fight man, woman, and child to defend Kim Jong Un. A land or sea invasion will cost thousands of American lives and may not even make it to Pyongyang. It's just like Japan and everyone knows it. I hate the idea of nukes being used in the modern age, but it may be inevitable one way or another. --- This is my year of Pokemon! Pokemon games I'm playing: Black, Emerald, Platinum. <cite>Duncanwii posted [p:878030909] in We should ... [t:75286217]...</cite> <quote><cite>MJ_Max posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Duncanwii posted...</cite> <quote>As unfortunate as a situation it is, this may be a repeat of the defeat of Japan in the 1940's. A preemptive nuclear strike may be our only option as terrible as a precedent it sets.</quote> fuck that noise</quote> The North Korean people will fight man, woman, and child to defend Kim Jong Un. A land or sea invasion will cost thousands of American lives and may not even make it to Pyongyang. It's just like Japan and everyone knows it. I hate the idea of nukes being used in the modern age, but it may be inevitable one way or another.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nomadic View 04/27/17 6:47:16 PM #8:	It's too late to do anything reasonable at this point. NK will never willingly give up nukes; Diplomacy is out. The only other alternative is waiting to see if they attack us, then nuke them...or just preemptively nuke them. There is no winning strategy at this point. --- {}\\{}(o){}\\//{}//=\\{})){}(< \\//{}{{-{}//\\{} {}xxxxxxxx{};;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;> <cite>Nomadic View posted [p:878030967] in We should ... [t:75286217]...</cite> <quote>It's too late to do anything reasonable at this point. NK will never willingly give up nukes; Diplomacy is out. The only other alternative is waiting to see if they attack us, then nuke them...or just preemptively nuke them. There is no winning strategy at this point.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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psvitantifail 04/27/17 6:48:23 PM #10:	M.O.A.B the Palace end of story... --- America will never fall to liberals or communist invasion! <cite>psvitantifail posted [p:878031037] in We should ... [t:75286217]...</cite> <quote>M.O.A.B the Palace end of story...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Akagami_Shanks 04/27/17 6:48:39 PM #11:	Duncanwii posted... MJ_Max posted... Duncanwii posted... As unfortunate as a situation it is, this may be a repeat of the defeat of Japan in the 1940's. A preemptive nuclear strike may be our only option as terrible as a precedent it sets. fuck that noise The North Korean people will fight man, woman, and child to defend Kim Jong Un. A land or sea invasion will cost thousands of American lives and may not even make it to Pyongyang. It's just like Japan and everyone knows it. I hate the idea of nukes being used in the modern age, but it may be inevitable one way or another. it's not a matter of if it'll make it to Pyongyang, it's a matter of how many lives it would cost. Honestly if we really had to we could just steamroll through NK right now. It'd probably spark a conflict with Russia/China but if we had to it wouldn't last long --- The arcana is the means by which all is revealed...The silent voice within one's heart whispers the most profound wisdom <cite>Akagami_Shanks posted [p:878031053] in We should ... [t:75286217]...</cite> <quote><cite>Duncanwii posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MJ_Max posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Duncanwii posted...</cite> <quote>As unfortunate as a situation it is, this may be a repeat of the defeat of Japan in the 1940's. A preemptive nuclear strike may be our only option as terrible as a precedent it sets.</quote> fuck that noise</quote> The North Korean people will fight man, woman, and child to defend Kim Jong Un. A land or sea invasion will cost thousands of American lives and may not even make it to Pyongyang. It's just like Japan and everyone knows it. I hate the idea of nukes being used in the modern age, but it may be inevitable one way or another.</quote> it's not a matter of if it'll make it to Pyongyang, it's a matter of how many lives it would cost. Honestly if we really had to we could just steamroll through NK right now. It'd probably spark a conflict with Russia/China but if we had to it wouldn't last long</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 04/27/17 6:49:00 PM #12:	I think it should be up to South Korea really. But I don't now what the answer is. It's just gonna lead to tragedy no matter what happens. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:878031078] in We should ... [t:75286217]...</cite> <quote>I think it should be up to South Korea really. But I don't now what the answer is. It's just gonna lead to tragedy no matter what happens.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MJ_Max 04/27/17 6:49:00 PM #13:	Duncanwii posted... The North Korean people will fight man, woman, and child to defend Kim Jong Un. A land or sea invasion will cost thousands of American lives and may not even make it to Pyongyang. It's just like Japan and everyone knows it. I hate the idea of nukes being used in the modern age, but it may be inevitable one way or another. Then we wait until there's a credible threat or we have a better option. We're not fucking nuking people <cite>MJ_Max posted [p:878031080] in We should ... [t:75286217]...</cite> <quote><cite>Duncanwii posted...</cite> <quote>The North Korean people will fight man, woman, and child to defend Kim Jong Un. A land or sea invasion will cost thousands of American lives and may not even make it to Pyongyang. It's just like Japan and everyone knows it. I hate the idea of nukes being used in the modern age, but it may be inevitable one way or another.</quote> Then we wait until there's a credible threat or we have a better option. We're not fucking nuking people</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Letron_James 04/27/17 6:49:01 PM #14:	Duncanwii posted... MJ_Max posted... Duncanwii posted... As unfortunate as a situation it is, this may be a repeat of the defeat of Japan in the 1940's. A preemptive nuclear strike may be our only option as terrible as a precedent it sets. fuck that noise The North Korean people will fight man, woman, and child to defend Kim Jong Un. A land or sea invasion will cost thousands of American lives and may not even make it to Pyongyang. It's just like Japan and everyone knows it. I hate the idea of nukes being used in the modern age, but it may be inevitable one way or another. If you arent willing to risk your own men then the war isnt worthwhile. Nuking NK will do nothing but put America firmly as the most hated country in the world for the foreseeable future. They got away with it the first time because defeating Germany and their allies was more popular than bombing a crazyman and his poor citizens that have no choice but to worship him killing upwards of a 100k people will not stop people like him from rising to power again --- Ask me if I would eat da booty. <cite>Letron_James posted [p:878031083] in We should ... [t:75286217]...</cite> <quote><cite>Duncanwii posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MJ_Max posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Duncanwii posted...</cite> <quote>As unfortunate as a situation it is, this may be a repeat of the defeat of Japan in the 1940's. A preemptive nuclear strike may be our only option as terrible as a precedent it sets.</quote> fuck that noise</quote> The North Korean people will fight man, woman, and child to defend Kim Jong Un. A land or sea invasion will cost thousands of American lives and may not even make it to Pyongyang. It's just like Japan and everyone knows it. I hate the idea of nukes being used in the modern age, but it may be inevitable one way or another.</quote> If you arent willing to risk your own men then the war isnt worthwhile. Nuking NK will do nothing but put America firmly as the most hated country in the world for the foreseeable future. They got away with it the first time because defeating Germany and their allies was more popular than bombing a crazyman and his poor citizens that have no choice but to worship him killing upwards of a 100k people will not stop people like him from rising to power again</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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glitteringfairy 04/27/17 6:52:43 PM #16:	Why is this very body screaming nukes. We have the capability to do the same damage with just conventional bombs and missiles. Nobody needs to be fucking nuking anything. Good lord. --- "How come you can believe in God but not Bigfoot?" V-E-G-Y http://i.imgur.com/AqR3aeX.jpg http://i.imgur.com/vvuUXpp.jpg <cite>glitteringfairy posted [p:878031315] in We should ... [t:75286217]...</cite> <quote>Why is this very body screaming nukes. We have the capability to do the same damage with just conventional bombs and missiles. Nobody needs to be fucking nuking anything. Good lord.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HypnoCoosh 04/27/17 6:54:58 PM #17:	NK isn't even a shit stain on Americas underwear. They are under constant surveillance and the first time they step over the line they are going to get bitch slapped so hard that shit ain't even gonna be funny. And you know what? It will be justified and the world will approve. --- We make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst. - C.S. Lewis <cite>HypnoCoosh posted [p:878031447] in We should ... [t:75286217]...</cite> <quote>NK isn't even a shit stain on Americas underwear. They are under constant surveillance and the first time they step over the line they are going to get bitch slapped so hard that shit ain't even gonna be funny. And you know what? It will be justified and the world will approve.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 04/27/17 6:56:07 PM #18:	Nuking NK seems pretty overkill lol. Isn't most of the population rather spread out and living in poverty? --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:878031515] in We should ... [t:75286217]...</cite> <quote>Nuking NK seems pretty overkill lol. Isn't most of the population rather spread out and living in poverty?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Saloonist 04/27/17 6:59:37 PM #19:	legendarylemur posted... Imagine thinking North Korea can attack Los Angeles or San Francisco, especially to the point of "burnt rubble." I'm actually for reals sure that you have exactly the same mindset as Trump himself I'm not a Trump supporter. And no, NK doesnt have the capability to hit LA or SF today. But they're not far off: https://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/01/07/world/asia/north-korea-hydrogen-bomb-q-a.html https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/apr/20/north-korea-nuclear-missile-could-it-hit-california-trump --- BasileosPetros, KhanofKhans, CokeZero, and many more <cite>Saloonist posted [p:878031707] in We should ... [t:75286217]...</cite> <quote><cite>legendarylemur posted...</cite> <quote>Imagine thinking North Korea can attack Los Angeles or San Francisco, especially to the point of "burnt rubble." I'm actually for reals sure that you have exactly the same mindset as Trump himself</quote> I'm not a Trump supporter. And no, NK doesnt have the capability to hit LA or SF today. But they're not far off: https://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/01/07/world/asia/north-korea-hydrogen-bomb-q-a.html https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/apr/20/north-korea-nuclear-missile-could-it-hit-california-trump</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlisLandale 04/27/17 7:00:20 PM #20:	I think it would be relatively easy to collapse NK via a war of attrition, if the rest of the world truly felt it necessarry. No need to put boots on the ground or ore-emptive strikes. But such a decision should, as mentioned, be ultimately up to South Korea, since any aggression towards the North would put them in immediate danger. --- Currently Binging: Ghost in the Shell - Stand Alone Complex http://i.imgtc.com/YQId2Bz.png <cite>AlisLandale posted [p:878031747] in We should ... [t:75286217]...</cite> <quote>I think it would be relatively easy to collapse NK via a war of attrition, if the rest of the world truly felt it necessarry. No need to put boots on the ground or ore-emptive strikes. But such a decision should, as mentioned, be ultimately up to South Korea, since any aggression towards the North would put them in immediate danger.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Duncanwii 04/27/17 7:02:36 PM #21:	AlisLandale posted... I think it would be relatively easy to collapse NK via a war of attrition, if the rest of the world truly felt it necessarry. No need to put boots on the ground or ore-emptive strikes. But such a decision should, as mentioned, be ultimately up to South Korea, since any aggression towards the North would put them in immediate danger. What happens though if North Korea has their own version of Pearl Harbor. A nuclear strike on a west coast city would be like 9/11 on steroids. There would be no holding back. --- This is my year of Pokemon! Pokemon games I'm playing: Black, Emerald, Platinum. <cite>Duncanwii posted [p:878031875] in We should ... [t:75286217]...</cite> <quote><cite>AlisLandale posted...</cite> <quote>I think it would be relatively easy to collapse NK via a war of attrition, if the rest of the world truly felt it necessarry. No need to put boots on the ground or ore-emptive strikes. But such a decision should, as mentioned, be ultimately up to South Korea, since any aggression towards the North would put them in immediate danger.</quote> What happens though if North Korea has their own version of Pearl Harbor. A nuclear strike on a west coast city would be like 9/11 on steroids. There would be no holding back.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 04/27/17 7:04:53 PM #22:	I'm more worried about South Korea than the US. I'm not convinced NK is a credible threat to the US just yet. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:878031989] in We should ... [t:75286217]...</cite> <quote>I'm more worried about South Korea than the US. I'm not convinced NK is a credible threat to the US just yet.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HypnoCoosh 04/27/17 7:05:29 PM #23:	AlisLandale posted... South Korea Shit bro south Korea is ranked twice as powerful as North Korea --- We make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst. - C.S. Lewis <cite>HypnoCoosh posted [p:878032018] in We should ... [t:75286217]...</cite> <quote><cite>AlisLandale posted...</cite> <quote>South Korea</quote> Shit bro south Korea is ranked twice as powerful as North Korea</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CrimsonAngeI 04/27/17 7:06:05 PM #24:	NK without a doubt would strike South Korea first regardless of whether they could hit the US or not. --- Why am I here? <cite>CrimsonAngeI posted [p:878032056] in We should ... [t:75286217]...</cite> <quote>NK without a doubt would strike South Korea first regardless of whether they could hit the US or not.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Saloonist 04/27/17 7:08:26 PM #25:	Darmik posted... I'm more worried about South Korea than the US. I'm not convinced NK is a credible threat to the US just yet. But the point is that we shouldn't allow them to develop to the point where they are a threat to us. North Korea of all states, cant be allowed to have that kind of leverage over us. --- BasileosPetros, KhanofKhans, CokeZero, and many more <cite>Saloonist posted [p:878032198] in We should ... [t:75286217]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>I'm more worried about South Korea than the US. I'm not convinced NK is a credible threat to the US just yet.</quote> But the point is that we shouldn't allow them to develop to the point where they are a threat to us. North Korea of all states, cant be allowed to have that kind of leverage over us.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HypnoCoosh 04/27/17 7:10:10 PM #26:	Darmik posted... I'm more worried about South Korea For who's well being and from who? SK and US are in excellent standings dude. --- We make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst. - C.S. Lewis <cite>HypnoCoosh posted [p:878032301] in We should ... [t:75286217]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>I'm more worried about South Korea </quote> For who's well being and from who? SK and US are in excellent standings dude.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SoundNetwork 04/27/17 7:13:18 PM #27:	Duncanwii posted... MJ_Max posted... Duncanwii posted... As unfortunate as a situation it is, this may be a repeat of the defeat of Japan in the 1940's. A preemptive nuclear strike may be our only option as terrible as a precedent it sets. fuck that noise The North Korean people will fight man, woman, and child to defend Kim Jong Un. A land or sea invasion will cost thousands of American lives and may not even make it to Pyongyang. It's just like Japan and everyone knows it. I hate the idea of nukes being used in the modern age, but it may be inevitable one way or another. No they wouldn't. There's millions of North Koreans looking for a way to escape that hell. They just can't because their entire family would get executed. --- http://i.imgur.com/HcKBWZ6.gif <cite>SoundNetwork posted [p:878032496] in We should ... [t:75286217]...</cite> <quote><cite>Duncanwii posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MJ_Max posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Duncanwii posted...</cite> <quote>As unfortunate as a situation it is, this may be a repeat of the defeat of Japan in the 1940's. A preemptive nuclear strike may be our only option as terrible as a precedent it sets.</quote> fuck that noise</quote> The North Korean people will fight man, woman, and child to defend Kim Jong Un. A land or sea invasion will cost thousands of American lives and may not even make it to Pyongyang. It's just like Japan and everyone knows it. I hate the idea of nukes being used in the modern age, but it may be inevitable one way or another.</quote> No they wouldn't. There's millions of North Koreans looking for a way to escape that hell. They just can't because their entire family would get executed.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
legendarylemur 04/27/17 7:14:26 PM #28:	Technologically SK is leaps and beyond above NK. It's also foolish to quote an article that says NK literally tried for 10 whole years for even a sign of a successful explosion, except a country that's overly boastful doesn't provide any better evidence that it actually happened. It's not wise to assume NK's developmental speed to be even remotely close to, hell, a 3rd world country. By the time they even have any capability, there are probably gonna be plenty of emergency contingences. The gap between NK and the world grows further, not, for some unexplained paranoia, nearer. And they clearly don't even wanna fight. It's pretty obvious when they mean it. They flower it less --- "Iwata was awesome" - Mr. Nintendo dinglebutt <cite>legendarylemur posted [p:878032566] in We should ... [t:75286217]...</cite> <quote>Technologically SK is leaps and beyond above NK. It's also foolish to quote an article that says NK literally tried for 10 whole years for even a sign of a successful explosion, except a country that's overly boastful doesn't provide any better evidence that it actually happened. It's not wise to assume NK's developmental speed to be even remotely close to, hell, a 3rd world country. By the time they even have any capability, there are probably gonna be plenty of emergency contingences. The gap between NK and the world grows further, not, for some unexplained paranoia, nearer. And they clearly don't even wanna fight. It's pretty obvious when they mean it. They flower it less</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Duncanwii 04/27/17 7:14:35 PM #29:	SoundNetwork posted... Duncanwii posted... MJ_Max posted... Duncanwii posted... As unfortunate as a situation it is, this may be a repeat of the defeat of Japan in the 1940's. A preemptive nuclear strike may be our only option as terrible as a precedent it sets. fuck that noise The North Korean people will fight man, woman, and child to defend Kim Jong Un. A land or sea invasion will cost thousands of American lives and may not even make it to Pyongyang. It's just like Japan and everyone knows it. I hate the idea of nukes being used in the modern age, but it may be inevitable one way or another. No they wouldn't. There's millions of North Koreans looking for a way to escape that hell. They just can't because their entire family would get executed. Exactly, they'll fight or they die. --- This is my year of Pokemon! Pokemon games I'm playing: Black, Emerald, Platinum. <cite>Duncanwii posted [p:878032584] in We should ... [t:75286217]...</cite> <quote><cite>SoundNetwork posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Duncanwii posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MJ_Max posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Duncanwii posted...</cite> <quote>As unfortunate as a situation it is, this may be a repeat of the defeat of Japan in the 1940's. A preemptive nuclear strike may be our only option as terrible as a precedent it sets.</quote> fuck that noise</quote> The North Korean people will fight man, woman, and child to defend Kim Jong Un. A land or sea invasion will cost thousands of American lives and may not even make it to Pyongyang. It's just like Japan and everyone knows it. I hate the idea of nukes being used in the modern age, but it may be inevitable one way or another.</quote> No they wouldn't. There's millions of North Koreans looking for a way to escape that hell. They just can't because their entire family would get executed.</quote> Exactly, they'll fight or they die.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 04/27/17 7:14:55 PM #30:	HypnoCoosh posted... Darmik posted... I'm more worried about South Korea For who's well being and from who? SK and US are in excellent standings dude. From being hit by a major strike from NK. I'm not saying they'd lose or anything though. Just being hit by something that kills a lot of people. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:878032609] in We should ... [t:75286217]...</cite> <quote><cite>HypnoCoosh posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>I'm more worried about South Korea </quote> For who's well being and from who? SK and US are in excellent standings dude.</quote> From being hit by a major strike from NK. I'm not saying they'd lose or anything though. Just being hit by something that kills a lot of people.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HypnoCoosh 04/27/17 7:15:24 PM #31:	Darmik posted... HypnoCoosh posted... Darmik posted... I'm more worried about South Korea For who's well being and from who? SK and US are in excellent standings dude. From being hit by a major strike from NK. You underestimate SK --- We make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst. - C.S. Lewis <cite>HypnoCoosh posted [p:878032638] in We should ... [t:75286217]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>HypnoCoosh posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>I'm more worried about South Korea </quote> For who's well being and from who? SK and US are in excellent standings dude.</quote> From being hit by a major strike from NK.</quote> You underestimate SK</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 04/27/17 7:17:25 PM #32:	HypnoCoosh posted... Darmik posted... HypnoCoosh posted... Darmik posted... I'm more worried about South Korea For who's well being and from who? SK and US are in excellent standings dude. From being hit by a major strike from NK. You underestimate SK I think you misunderstood me. I'm worried about the loss of innocent civilians. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:878032774] in We should ... [t:75286217]...</cite> <quote><cite>HypnoCoosh posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>HypnoCoosh posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>I'm more worried about South Korea </quote> For who's well being and from who? SK and US are in excellent standings dude.</quote> From being hit by a major strike from NK.</quote> You underestimate SK</quote> I think you misunderstood me. I'm worried about the loss of innocent civilians.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
legendarylemur 04/27/17 7:23:14 PM #33:	Almost everybody in SK has to serve in the military for 1.5~2.5 years or so. I mean... to be honest, it's actually still getting more lenient even with the threat, not harsher. They used to crank it up for a year or two every time NK made a threat when I used to live there, but from what I hear, not anymore. They're not preparing for an all-out war, and they know far more than we could ever know. There's no war to be had here. NK has been sending several people to SK to improve their reputation. They talk about how it's more convenient in the outside world and especially SK. But this kinda shit used to NEVER happen. They're barely hostile, but you guys don't actually watch Korean television. I freaking do --- "Iwata was awesome" - Mr. Nintendo dinglebutt <cite>legendarylemur posted [p:878033114] in We should ... [t:75286217]...</cite> <quote>Almost everybody in SK has to serve in the military for 1.5~2.5 years or so. I mean... to be honest, it's actually still getting more lenient even with the threat, not harsher. They used to crank it up for a year or two every time NK made a threat when I used to live there, but from what I hear, not anymore. They're not preparing for an all-out war, and they know far more than we could ever know. There's no war to be had here. NK has been sending several people to SK to improve their reputation. They talk about how it's more convenient in the outside world and especially SK. But this kinda shit used to NEVER happen. They're barely hostile, but you guys don't actually watch Korean television. I freaking do</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Saloonist 04/27/17 7:24:44 PM #34:	legendarylemur posted... Technologically SK is leaps and beyond above NK. It's also foolish to quote an article that says NK literally tried for 10 whole years for even a sign of a successful explosion, except a country that's overly boastful doesn't provide any better evidence that it actually happened. It's not wise to assume NK's developmental speed to be even remotely close to, hell, a 3rd world country. By the time they even have any capability, there are probably gonna be plenty of emergency contingences. The gap between NK and the world grows further, not, for some unexplained paranoia, nearer. And they clearly don't even wanna fight. It's pretty obvious when they mean it. They flower it less You're telling me that what North Korea wants is "clear"? You should inform us all about it then. It's only the most secretive state in the world. And the question is not whether they want to attack us or not. It is whether we should allow them to develop the capability to do so. In my mind, we shouldn't and it would be a disaster to allow them to threaten the US mainland. Nuclear weapons are an old technology. They will develop them. Experts believe within the decade they will be able to attack the US with nuclear tipped ICBMs. --- BasileosPetros, KhanofKhans, CokeZero, and many more <cite>Saloonist posted [p:878033199] in We should ... [t:75286217]...</cite> <quote><cite>legendarylemur posted...</cite> <quote>Technologically SK is leaps and beyond above NK. It's also foolish to quote an article that says NK literally tried for 10 whole years for even a sign of a successful explosion, except a country that's overly boastful doesn't provide any better evidence that it actually happened. It's not wise to assume NK's developmental speed to be even remotely close to, hell, a 3rd world country. By the time they even have any capability, there are probably gonna be plenty of emergency contingences. The gap between NK and the world grows further, not, for some unexplained paranoia, nearer. And they clearly don't even wanna fight. It's pretty obvious when they mean it. They flower it less</quote> You're telling me that what North Korea wants is "clear"? You should inform us all about it then. It's only the most secretive state in the world. And the question is not whether they want to attack us or not. It is whether we should allow them to develop the capability to do so. In my mind, we shouldn't and it would be a disaster to allow them to threaten the US mainland. Nuclear weapons are an old technology. They will develop them. Experts believe within the decade they will be able to attack the US with nuclear tipped ICBMs.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Saloonist 04/27/17 9:44:59 PM #35:	bump --- BasileosPetros, KhanofKhans, CokeZero, and many more <cite>Saloonist posted [p:878042896] in We should ... [t:75286217]...</cite> <quote>bump</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 04/27/17 9:47:20 PM #36:	Duncanwii posted... The North Korean people will fight man, woman, and child to defend Kim Jong Un. Eh don't be so sure of that. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:878043044] in We should ... [t:75286217]...</cite> <quote><cite>Duncanwii posted...</cite> <quote> The North Korean people will fight man, woman, and child to defend Kim Jong Un. </quote> Eh don't be so sure of that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Banana_Mana 04/27/17 9:48:41 PM #37:	Would be a lot better if the US just fucked off home and stopped antagonising everyone on the peninsula. --- Bananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananas! Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeah :-) <cite>Banana_Mana posted [p:878043128] in We should ... [t:75286217]...</cite> <quote>Would be a lot better if the US just fucked off home and stopped antagonising everyone on the peninsula.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 04/27/17 9:50:27 PM #38:	People don't seem to understand No one is saying "North Korea will conquer or destroy South Korea." They're saying North Korea is capable of doing an enorous amount of damage that will kill many innocent civilians and hurt the economy. Going "Well and then they would lose after doing that." is kinda missing the point. Your next door neighbor can't conquer America but he could kill your dog. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:878043238] in We should ... [t:75286217]...</cite> <quote>People don't seem to understand No one is saying "North Korea will conquer or destroy South Korea." They're saying North Korea is capable of doing an enorous amount of damage that will kill many innocent civilians and hurt the economy. Going "Well and then they would lose after doing that." is kinda missing the point. Your next door neighbor can't conquer America but he could kill your dog.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
toptopmax 04/27/17 9:52:02 PM #39:	So when is tc going to sign up to fight. Better bring his family to Seoul too. Don't want to be too cowardly right --- pulp reality <cite>toptopmax posted [p:878043349] in We should ... [t:75286217]...</cite> <quote>So when is tc going to sign up to fight. Better bring his family to Seoul too. Don't want to be too cowardly right</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kineth 04/27/17 10:00:11 PM #40:	Saloonist posted... I don't consider myself a hawk, Then maybe you should relearn the definition. --- I call them boob implants because saying I'm getting a boobilicious chest full of science isn't likely to catch your attention. -gunplagirl <cite>Kineth posted [p:878043964] in We should ... [t:75286217]...</cite> <quote><cite>Saloonist posted...</cite> <quote>I don't consider myself a hawk,</quote> Then maybe you should relearn the definition.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Saloonist 04/27/17 10:11:12 PM #41:	toptopmax posted... So when is tc going to sign up to fight. Better bring his family to Seoul too. Don't want to be too cowardly right Strawman. Why would I sign up to fight a war that isn't even happening. And whether I want to fight or not is irrelevant to the topic altogether. --- BasileosPetros, KhanofKhans, CokeZero, and many more <cite>Saloonist posted [p:878044795] in We should ... [t:75286217]...</cite> <quote><cite>toptopmax posted...</cite> <quote>So when is tc going to sign up to fight. Better bring his family to Seoul too. Don't want to be too cowardly right</quote> Strawman. Why would I sign up to fight a war that isn't even happening. And whether I want to fight or not is irrelevant to the topic altogether.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Saloonist 04/27/17 10:12:25 PM #42:	Kineth posted... Saloonist posted... I don't consider myself a hawk, Then maybe you should relearn the definition. Not really. Supporting a just war isn't being a hawk. I support very little of the nonsense going on in the Middle East. In fact, I bet we arrived in this very position by having so much attention shifted to wars on terrorism, instead of the existential threat looming just over the horizon. --- BasileosPetros, KhanofKhans, CokeZero, and many more <cite>Saloonist posted [p:878044869] in We should ... [t:75286217]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Saloonist posted...</cite> <quote>I don't consider myself a hawk,</quote> Then maybe you should relearn the definition.</quote> Not really. Supporting a just war isn't being a hawk. I support very little of the nonsense going on in the Middle East. In fact, I bet we arrived in this very position by having so much attention shifted to wars on terrorism, instead of the existential threat looming just over the horizon.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Saloonist 04/27/17 10:13:50 PM #43:	Banana_Mana posted... Would be a lot better if the US just fucked off home and stopped antagonising everyone on the peninsula. So you think the US is the bad guy, and not the god-emperor dictator, who subjugates his own people, and is trying to build weapons specifically aimed at the US? --- BasileosPetros, KhanofKhans, CokeZero, and many more <cite>Saloonist posted [p:878044975] in We should ... [t:75286217]...</cite> <quote><cite>Banana_Mana posted...</cite> <quote>Would be a lot better if the US just fucked off home and stopped antagonising everyone on the peninsula.</quote> So you think the US is the bad guy, and not the god-emperor dictator, who subjugates his own people, and is trying to build weapons specifically aimed at the US?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Banana_Mana 04/27/17 10:22:01 PM #44:	Saloonist posted... Banana_Mana posted... Would be a lot better if the US just fucked off home and stopped antagonising everyone on the peninsula. So you think the US is the bad guy, and not the god-emperor dictator, who subjugates his own people, and is trying to build weapons specifically aimed at the US? The US is the instigator in this. North Korea wouldn't do anything unless provoked. For some reason you lot think provocation is a good idea. --- Bananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananas! Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeah :-) <cite>Banana_Mana posted [p:878045529] in We should ... [t:75286217]...</cite> <quote><cite>Saloonist posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Banana_Mana posted...</cite> <quote>Would be a lot better if the US just fucked off home and stopped antagonising everyone on the peninsula.</quote> So you think the US is the bad guy, and not the god-emperor dictator, who subjugates his own people, and is trying to build weapons specifically aimed at the US?</quote> The US is the instigator in this. North Korea wouldn't do anything unless provoked. For some reason you lot think provocation is a good idea.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Suchomimus 04/27/17 10:24:20 PM #45:	Saloonist posted... North Korea is not only terrifyingly close to obtaining the capability of striking the United States with nuclear weapons They are not even close. --- I'm a peasant. <cite>Suchomimus posted [p:878045689] in We should ... [t:75286217]...</cite> <quote><cite>Saloonist posted...</cite> <quote>North Korea is not only terrifyingly close to obtaining the capability of striking the United States with nuclear weapons</quote> They are not even close.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Saloonist 04/27/17 10:25:39 PM #46:	Banana_Mana posted... Saloonist posted... Banana_Mana posted... Would be a lot better if the US just fucked off home and stopped antagonising everyone on the peninsula. So you think the US is the bad guy, and not the god-emperor dictator, who subjugates his own people, and is trying to build weapons specifically aimed at the US? The US is the instigator in this. North Korea wouldn't do anything unless provoked. For some reason you lot think provocation is a good idea. You are aware that North Korea initiated this entire situation when it invaded the South in 1950, right? The US has merely been defending it's ally and itself since then against constant North Korean aggression. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_War --- BasileosPetros, KhanofKhans, CokeZero, and many more <cite>Saloonist posted [p:878045772] in We should ... [t:75286217]...</cite> <quote><cite>Banana_Mana posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Saloonist posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Banana_Mana posted...</cite> <quote>Would be a lot better if the US just fucked off home and stopped antagonising everyone on the peninsula.</quote> So you think the US is the bad guy, and not the god-emperor dictator, who subjugates his own people, and is trying to build weapons specifically aimed at the US?</quote> The US is the instigator in this. North Korea wouldn't do anything unless provoked. For some reason you lot think provocation is a good idea.</quote> You are aware that North Korea initiated this entire situation when it invaded the South in 1950, right? The US has merely been defending it's ally and itself since then against constant North Korean aggression. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_War</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
this_is_wow_huh 04/27/17 10:31:18 PM #47:	TC is completely wrong. Lets just forget for the moment that NK missile program is junk. They essentially all end in failure. Hypothetically even if NK had a robust ICBM program that could reach the US, so what? If NK bombed either SK, Japan, or the US, we all know that would be the end of the current regime. The current regime at the end of the day wants to stay in power and not be turned into a pile of dust. Am sure they live like kings, they dont want to fuck that up. Let NK do NK things as it has been, there is absolutely no reason for military action. --- this is still huh wow! <cite>this_is_wow_huh posted [p:878046159] in We should ... [t:75286217]...</cite> <quote>TC is completely wrong. Lets just forget for the moment that NK missile program is junk. They essentially all end in failure. Hypothetically even if NK had a robust ICBM program that could reach the US, so what? If NK bombed either SK, Japan, or the US, we all know that would be the end of the current regime. The current regime at the end of the day wants to stay in power and not be turned into a pile of dust. Am sure they live like kings, they dont want to fuck that up. Let NK do NK things as it has been, there is absolutely no reason for military action.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Saloonist 04/27/17 10:42:59 PM #48:	this_is_wow_huh posted... TC is completely wrong. Lets just forget for the moment that NK missile program is junk. They essentially all end in failure. Hypothetically even if NK had a robust ICBM program that could reach the US, so what? If NK bombed either SK, Japan, or the US, we all know that would be the end of the current regime. The current regime at the end of the day wants to stay in power and not be turned into a pile of dust. Am sure they live like kings, they dont want to fuck that up. Let NK do NK things as it has been, there is absolutely no reason for military action. Maybe you want North Korea to have the ability to turn whatever shithole you live in into a pile of rubble, but I don't. Sure you can try deterence, but once you're at that stage, you've already given a ton of leverage to them. Also, no one knows what North Korea wants. You all can pretend that you know, but you don't. It is the most secluded state in the world. We came to the brink of nuclear war with the Soviet Union, and we knew them very well. People seem to forget this. We do not know the North Koreans. We do not have formal diplomatic channels with them. The fact that they declare their intentions to kill us all in a nuclear Holocaust means that we can't distinguish when they are serious or not. We do not know when they are actually threatening us because they think we're crossing some red line, and when they are blustering as usual. Thus we know very little about them, and we can't adequately distinguish their real threats from their saber-rattling. That greatly increases the chance of an accidental war. Now I ask you: Would you rather have an accidental war before or after North Korea has a hydrogen bomb? --- BasileosPetros, KhanofKhans, CokeZero, and many more <cite>Saloonist posted [p:878047005] in We should ... [t:75286217]...</cite> <quote><cite>this_is_wow_huh posted...</cite> <quote>TC is completely wrong. Lets just forget for the moment that NK missile program is junk. They essentially all end in failure. Hypothetically even if NK had a robust ICBM program that could reach the US, so what? If NK bombed either SK, Japan, or the US, we all know that would be the end of the current regime. The current regime at the end of the day wants to stay in power and not be turned into a pile of dust. Am sure they live like kings, they dont want to fuck that up. Let NK do NK things as it has been, there is absolutely no reason for military action.</quote> Maybe you want North Korea to have the ability to turn whatever shithole you live in into a pile of rubble, but I don't. Sure you can try deterence, but once you're at that stage, you've already given a ton of leverage to them. Also, no one knows what North Korea wants. You all can pretend that you know, but you don't. It is the most secluded state in the world. We came to the brink of nuclear war with the Soviet Union, and we knew them very well. People seem to forget this. We do not know the North Koreans. We do not have formal diplomatic channels with them. The fact that they declare their intentions to kill us all in a nuclear Holocaust means that we can't distinguish when they are serious or not. We do not know when they are actually threatening us because they think we're crossing some red line, and when they are blustering as usual. Thus we know very little about them, and we can't adequately distinguish their real threats from their saber-rattling. That greatly increases the chance of an accidental war. Now I ask you: Would you rather have an accidental war before or after North Korea has a hydrogen bomb?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Banana_Mana 04/27/17 11:34:26 PM #49:	Saloonist posted... Banana_Mana posted... Saloonist posted... Banana_Mana posted... Would be a lot better if the US just fucked off home and stopped antagonising everyone on the peninsula. So you think the US is the bad guy, and not the god-emperor dictator, who subjugates his own people, and is trying to build weapons specifically aimed at the US? The US is the instigator in this. North Korea wouldn't do anything unless provoked. For some reason you lot think provocation is a good idea. You are aware that North Korea initiated this entire situation when it invaded the South in 1950, right? The US has merely been defending it's ally and itself since then against constant North Korean aggression. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_War That was then. This is now. --- Bananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananas! Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeah :-) <cite>Banana_Mana posted [p:878050436] in We should ... [t:75286217]...</cite> <quote><cite>Saloonist posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Banana_Mana posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Saloonist posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Banana_Mana posted...</cite> <quote>Would be a lot better if the US just fucked off home and stopped antagonising everyone on the peninsula.</quote> So you think the US is the bad guy, and not the god-emperor dictator, who subjugates his own people, and is trying to build weapons specifically aimed at the US?</quote> The US is the instigator in this. North Korea wouldn't do anything unless provoked. For some reason you lot think provocation is a good idea.</quote> You are aware that North Korea initiated this entire situation when it invaded the South in 1950, right? The US has merely been defending it's ally and itself since then against constant North Korean aggression. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_War</quote> That was then. This is now.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 04/27/17 11:40:10 PM #50:	Banana_Mana posted... Saloonist posted... Banana_Mana posted... Saloonist posted... Banana_Mana posted... Would be a lot better if the US just fucked off home and stopped antagonising everyone on the peninsula. So you think the US is the bad guy, and not the god-emperor dictator, who subjugates his own people, and is trying to build weapons specifically aimed at the US? The US is the instigator in this. North Korea wouldn't do anything unless provoked. For some reason you lot think provocation is a good idea. You are aware that North Korea initiated this entire situation when it invaded the South in 1950, right? The US has merely been defending it's ally and itself since then against constant North Korean aggression. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_War That was then. This is now. NK threatened australia just for being an ally of the US and nothing more --- http://www.imgur.com/oQHLBrx.jpg http://www.imgur.com/ah5IE8D.jpg http://www.imgur.com/USV84z9.jpg http://www.imgur.com/PSjlohO.jpg <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:878050803] in We should ... [t:75286217]...</cite> <quote><cite>Banana_Mana posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Saloonist posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Banana_Mana posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Saloonist posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Banana_Mana posted...</cite> <quote>Would be a lot better if the US just fucked off home and stopped antagonising everyone on the peninsula.</quote> So you think the US is the bad guy, and not the god-emperor dictator, who subjugates his own people, and is trying to build weapons specifically aimed at the US?</quote> The US is the instigator in this. North Korea wouldn't do anything unless provoked. For some reason you lot think provocation is a good idea.</quote> You are aware that North Korea initiated this entire situation when it invaded the South in 1950, right? The US has merely been defending it's ally and itself since then against constant North Korean aggression. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_War</quote> That was then. This is now.</quote> NK threatened australia just for being an ally of the US and nothing more</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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