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UnfairRepresent
04/20/17 4:00:52 PM
#51:


Howl posted...
Waluigi7 posted...
Howl posted...
It's good to know this kind of thing never happens in Europe since the US is the only place this happens. Gun control laws keep them from having shootings like this.

It happens in the US at much higher rates.


I've heard so many people say the US is the only place this happens. Now it's "In this US it happens at higher rates" because this keeps happening is Europe constantly now as well.

When people say "The only place this happens" they mean at higher rates.

If there was one house in a town that had 14 rapes a week, that's "The only place where it happens." in the town.
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Howl
04/20/17 4:01:06 PM
#52:


The Admiral posted...
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/apr/20/paris-shooting-policeman-killed-on-champs-elysees

One policeman has been killed and another wounded in a shooting incident in central Paris, a police source said.

Police said at least two attackers were involved and one was killed in the incident, where police were fired upon on Thursday night on the Champs-Élysées. They said it was very probably a terrorist act.


Well, I'm pretty shocked. Was not expecting that.


Of course even if it is determined to be a terrorist attack, we will never have any idea what the motives were.
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ASithLord7
04/20/17 4:02:23 PM
#53:


The Admiral posted...
ASithLord7 posted...
The Admiral posted...
Now I know what we're all thinking, but there is no reasons to jump to conclusions. This could be anyone, and their motives could be anything. There is no reason to jump to conclusions, since I'm sure those initial impulses will be wrong.

Remember when the white Trump supporter killed two cops and you started foaming at the mouth about how it was BLM as soon as it happened? Boy was that embarrassing.


You remember that but forget the 40 or so times since then it's been the other way around, huh? I wonder why.

Crazy idea: How about we let all the facts come in before jumping to conclusions in any case?
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teepan95
04/20/17 4:02:29 PM
#54:


Probably a lunatic right winger, like Dortmund

My thoughts go out to the victims
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ASithLord7
04/20/17 4:02:42 PM
#55:


meingott posted...
Antifar posted...
It's just interesting to see the stories CNN makes front page news and the stories that go unnoticed beyond a local level.


Yeah, like how CNN didn't really say much about that black guy who killed random innocent white people other day

Highly fucking doubt that, given that it's been all over NBC and other "librul MSM" news since.
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Bishop9800
04/20/17 4:03:13 PM
#56:


The Admiral posted...
ASithLord7 posted...
The Admiral posted...
Now I know what we're all thinking, but there is no reasons to jump to conclusions. This could be anyone, and their motives could be anything. There is no reason to jump to conclusions, since I'm sure those initial impulses will be wrong.

Remember when the white Trump supporter killed two cops and you started foaming at the mouth about how it was BLM as soon as it happened? Boy was that embarrassing.


You remember that but forget the 40 or so times since then it's been the other way around, huh? I wonder why.



Such as when?
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ModLogic
04/20/17 4:04:02 PM
#57:


Howl posted...

Of course even if it is determined to be a terrorist attack, we will never have any idea what the motives wer

someone post "that" comic
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UnfairRepresent
04/20/17 4:04:22 PM
#58:


darkphoenix181 posted...
DundiesAward posted...
please don't be a Muslim.


who would you rather it be?

A white right-wing Christian who hates black people. I assume.
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meingott
04/20/17 4:05:04 PM
#60:


Maeiv posted...
France has lived under a state of emergency since 2015 and has suffered a spate of Islamist militant attacks that have killed more than 230 people in the past two years.

Yikes


To put this into perspective, in 2015 there were some 400 deaths in America because of mass shootings. But America has a population that is around five times larger than France's population.

So in other words, you're about as likely to die from a terrorist attack in France as you are to die from a mass shooting in America.
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meingott
04/20/17 4:05:56 PM
#62:


ASithLord7 posted...
meingott posted...
Antifar posted...
It's just interesting to see the stories CNN makes front page news and the stories that go unnoticed beyond a local level.


Yeah, like how CNN didn't really say much about that black guy who killed random innocent white people other day

Highly fucking doubt that, given that it's been all over NBC and other "librul MSM" news since.


I don't follow NBC, but CNN is definitely not reporting on that story. In fact, I don't know if I even saw them report on it at all except for leaving a tiny section on it up for like an hour or two. *shrug* Whereas if it was a white guy killing random black people in the same exact way, you know for a fact they'd have run major pieces on it for weeks.
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Medz8606
04/20/17 4:07:08 PM
#64:


Fake news
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Howl
04/20/17 4:08:14 PM
#65:


meingott posted...
Maeiv posted...
France has lived under a state of emergency since 2015 and has suffered a spate of Islamist militant attacks that have killed more than 230 people in the past two years.

Yikes


To put this into perspective, in 2015 there were some 400 deaths in America because of mass shootings. But America has a population that is around five times larger than France's population.

So in other words, you're about as likely to die from a terrorist attack in France as you are to die from a mass shooting in America.


Oh but meingott the US is the only place this keeps happening though. Europe is a fantasy land where violence doesn't exist and all the Muslim refugees integrated perfectly into society with no problems whatsoever. Furthermore, you are racist for suggesting there may be a problem with the level of terrorist attacks in France.
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ASithLord7
04/20/17 4:09:45 PM
#66:


Howl posted...
meingott posted...
Maeiv posted...
France has lived under a state of emergency since 2015 and has suffered a spate of Islamist militant attacks that have killed more than 230 people in the past two years.

Yikes


To put this into perspective, in 2015 there were some 400 deaths in America because of mass shootings. But America has a population that is around five times larger than France's population.

So in other words, you're about as likely to die from a terrorist attack in France as you are to die from a mass shooting in America.


Oh but meingott the US is the only place this keeps happening though. Europe is a fantasy land where violence doesn't exist and all the Muslim refugees integrated perfectly into society with no problems whatsoever. Furthermore, you are racist for suggesting there may be a problem with the level of terrorist attacks in France.

Don't think anyone has said any of this. There are ways to discuss the refugee crisis and Europe's problem with assimilation without attacking each and every nonviolent Muslim.
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meingott
04/20/17 4:10:16 PM
#67:


ASithLord7 posted...
Howl posted...
meingott posted...
Maeiv posted...
France has lived under a state of emergency since 2015 and has suffered a spate of Islamist militant attacks that have killed more than 230 people in the past two years.

Yikes


To put this into perspective, in 2015 there were some 400 deaths in America because of mass shootings. But America has a population that is around five times larger than France's population.

So in other words, you're about as likely to die from a terrorist attack in France as you are to die from a mass shooting in America.


Oh but meingott the US is the only place this keeps happening though. Europe is a fantasy land where violence doesn't exist and all the Muslim refugees integrated perfectly into society with no problems whatsoever. Furthermore, you are racist for suggesting there may be a problem with the level of terrorist attacks in France.

Don't think anyone has said any of this. There are ways to discuss the refugee crisis and Europe's problem with assimilation without attacking each and every nonviolent Muslim.


I don't think I've seen anyone on CE attack each and every nonviolent Muslim, and I'm pretty sure you already know that.
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Zero_Destroyer
04/20/17 4:11:12 PM
#68:


Zero_Destroyer posted...
:thinking: :thinking: :thinking:


:thinking:
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ASithLord7
04/20/17 4:11:56 PM
#70:


-Gavirulax- posted...
ASithLord7 posted...
Don't think anyone has said any of this. There are ways to discuss the refugee crisis and Europe's problem with assimilation without attacking each and every nonviolent Muslim.


Regressive talking point 4: Mention a #NOTALL, defend it to the bone.

Was that English?
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Howl
04/20/17 4:12:56 PM
#71:


ASithLord7 posted...
Don't think anyone has said any of this.


Lol really?
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darkphoenix181
04/20/17 4:13:31 PM
#73:


ASithLord7 posted...
-Gavirulax- posted...
ASithLord7 posted...
Don't think anyone has said any of this. There are ways to discuss the refugee crisis and Europe's problem with assimilation without attacking each and every nonviolent Muslim.


Regressive talking point 4: Mention a #NOTALL, defend it to the bone.

Was that English?


I understood him very well. Issue seems to be your reading ability.
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Zero_Destroyer
04/20/17 4:14:52 PM
#74:


ASithLord7 posted...

Don't think anyone has said any of this.


The far left throws some rambling fit about the Crusades every time somebody brings up Europe terror stats.
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Antifar
04/20/17 4:16:18 PM
#75:


meingott posted...
To put this into perspective, in 2015 there were some 400 deaths in America because of mass shootings. But America has a population that is around five times larger than France's population.

So in other words, you're about as likely to die from a terrorist attack in France as you are to die from a mass shooting in America.

You're comparing two years of France to one in America.

This has 462 deaths as of Dec. 3
http://america.aljazeera.com/multimedia/2015/12/gun-violence-by-the-numbers-2015-mass-shootings.html

In other words, twice France's two-year terrorism death toll. Adjust for population, and France's death toll per capita might be more than the U.S., but nowhere near the extend you've portrayed in this post.
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ASithLord7
04/20/17 4:17:14 PM
#77:


Antifar posted...
meingott posted...
To put this into perspective, in 2015 there were some 400 deaths in America because of mass shootings. But America has a population that is around five times larger than France's population.

So in other words, you're about as likely to die from a terrorist attack in France as you are to die from a mass shooting in America.

You're comparing two years of France to one in America

It was also 475 shooting deaths, which if you're going to round...
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Giant_Aspirin
04/20/17 4:17:18 PM
#78:


MARKINGRAM22 posted...
This is what happens without gun control.


you can fuck right off

edit: actually this entire topic is a cesspool, good job CE
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meingott
04/20/17 4:17:54 PM
#79:


Antifar posted...
meingott posted...
To put this into perspective, in 2015 there were some 400 deaths in America because of mass shootings. But America has a population that is around five times larger than France's population.

So in other words, you're about as likely to die from a terrorist attack in France as you are to die from a mass shooting in America.

You're comparing two years of France to one in America


I know, but I factored in the population difference. Even if it was 1000 deaths in America over the same two years, it's still about the same considering America is much much bigger than France. And has a much more diverse demography.
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Zero_Destroyer
04/20/17 4:18:57 PM
#80:


-Gavirulax- posted...
Zero_Destroyer posted...
The far left throws some rambling fit about the Crusades every time somebody brings up Europe terror stats.


Speaking of which, let's hear from one of the most regressive people on the most regressive channel on Youtube, nice little tune about that!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2RX9T9o2h0


Dance now!


the only thing worse than TYT is AiU's well-deservedly banned channel tbh
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meingott
04/20/17 4:19:04 PM
#81:


ASithLord7 posted...
Antifar posted...
meingott posted...
To put this into perspective, in 2015 there were some 400 deaths in America because of mass shootings. But America has a population that is around five times larger than France's population.

So in other words, you're about as likely to die from a terrorist attack in France as you are to die from a mass shooting in America.

You're comparing two years of France to one in America

It was also 475 shooting deaths, which if you're going to round...


If we say it was 500 a year and then compare 1,000 mass shooting deaths over two years (at 330 million people) vs 230+ terrorism deaths over two years (at 65 million people), they're essentially the same
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ManWithGun
04/20/17 4:19:36 PM
#82:


Gun control doesn't work. I challenge all anti gun noobs to abandon their fear of firearms and arm themselves.
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Antifar
04/20/17 4:19:43 PM
#83:


meingott posted...
it's still about the same considering America is much much bigger than France. And has a much more diverse demography.

I'm curious how you think diversity affects death toll.
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darkphoenix181
04/20/17 4:20:10 PM
#84:


Giant_Aspirin posted...
MARKINGRAM22 posted...
This is what happens without gun control.


you can fuck right off

edit: actually this entire topic is a cesspool, good job CE


why you so bitter?
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Zero_Destroyer
04/20/17 4:20:33 PM
#86:


anyway I sure hope this doesn't get that witch Le Pen elected

The left's inability to criticize Islam is giving right wingers an opening to get elected
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meingott
04/20/17 4:21:57 PM
#87:


Antifar posted...
meingott posted...
it's still about the same considering America is much much bigger than France. And has a much more diverse demography.

I'm curious how you think diversity affects death toll.


Don't fish for statements. Everyone knows that when you have a homogenous population, crime is lower. There are various whys, but they are irrelevant. The point is that America is much bigger and much more diverse than France, yet the amount of mass shooting deaths is comparable to the amount of terrorism deaths in France.
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Maeiv
04/20/17 4:23:06 PM
#89:


Zero_Destroyer posted...
anyway I sure hope this doesn't get that witch Le Pen elected

The left's inability to criticize Islam is giving right wingers an opening to get elected


I find it oddly fascinating that young people in France love her so much, I always thought young people tend to be more left wing
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Frostshock
04/20/17 4:23:27 PM
#90:


Zero_Destroyer posted...
anyway I sure hope this doesn't get that witch Le Pen elected

The left's inability to criticize Islam is giving right wingers an opening to get elected


There is a reason democratic countries hold elections every couple of years.

Right wing policies that weren't needed 5 years ago are needed now, and if they're implemented well then they won't be needed anymore in another 5 years.
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meingott
04/20/17 4:24:35 PM
#91:


Maeiv posted...
Zero_Destroyer posted...
anyway I sure hope this doesn't get that witch Le Pen elected

The left's inability to criticize Islam is giving right wingers an opening to get elected


I find it oddly fascinating that young people in France love her so much, I always thought young people tend to be more left wing


They probably got sick and tired of leftism destroying France. And I don't mean that with regards to terrorism, but with regards to the French economy.
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darkphoenix181
04/20/17 4:24:48 PM
#92:


Maeiv posted...
Zero_Destroyer posted...
anyway I sure hope this doesn't get that witch Le Pen elected

The left's inability to criticize Islam is giving right wingers an opening to get elected


I find it oddly fascinating that young people in France love her so much, I always thought young people tend to be more left wing


could be that having constant terror attacks in your country makes the young people want to not be left wing
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Giant_Aspirin
04/20/17 4:25:06 PM
#93:


darkphoenix181 posted...
Giant_Aspirin posted...
MARKINGRAM22 posted...
This is what happens without gun control.


you can fuck right off

edit: actually this entire topic is a cesspool, good job CE


why you so bitter?


someone was murdered and that poster turns the topic into a political shitfest immediately. it's pathetic. like, have some respect and wait a little while before you start spewing your agenda all over the place.
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meingott
04/20/17 4:26:44 PM
#94:


Giant_Aspirin posted...
darkphoenix181 posted...
Giant_Aspirin posted...
MARKINGRAM22 posted...
This is what happens without gun control.


you can fuck right off

edit: actually this entire topic is a cesspool, good job CE


why you so bitter?


someone was murdered and that poster turns the topic into a political shitfest immediately. it's pathetic. like, have some respect and wait a little while before you start spewing your agenda all over the place.


i find that people who post shit like this don't follow their own principle whenever stuff like Dylan Roof happens
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ModLogic
04/20/17 4:26:53 PM
#95:


-Gavirulax- posted...
ModLogic posted...
someone post "that" comic


Some regressive mod on CE who insta-marks fat too much doesn't like it.

lol edit: Fat=far

we need a hero to post "that" comic
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ASithLord7
04/20/17 4:28:26 PM
#96:


meingott posted...
Giant_Aspirin posted...
darkphoenix181 posted...
Giant_Aspirin posted...
MARKINGRAM22 posted...
This is what happens without gun control.


you can fuck right off

edit: actually this entire topic is a cesspool, good job CE


why you so bitter?


someone was murdered and that poster turns the topic into a political shitfest immediately. it's pathetic. like, have some respect and wait a little while before you start spewing your agenda all over the place.


i find that people who post shit like this don't follow their own principle whenever stuff like Dylan Roof happens

I mean we knew why Dylan Roof did what he did. We don't yet know what's happening in Paris.
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darkphoenix181
04/20/17 4:29:18 PM
#97:


Giant_Aspirin posted...
someone was murdered and that poster turns the topic into a political s***fest immediately. it's pathetic. like, have some respect and wait a little while before you start spewing your agenda all over the place.


it is an event worth discussing

having a thread with all replies as
:(
sad
heart out to family

is more worthless, especially since no one involved will ever read it


we are here to discuss current events, people were shot, why, how, who and what is the effects are all important things to consider

like are you really going to tell me you are at home weeping unable to move because of this event? if not then why would you assert that because this is tragic for the family we must all be silent and in shock?
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Cthulhu_Fhtagn
04/20/17 4:29:29 PM
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sktgamer_13dude
04/20/17 4:33:20 PM
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Good thing CE can wait for facts to come out before politicizing a tragedy.
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