Current Events > Spicer 'Someone as despicible as Hitler didn't even sink to using chemical weapo

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tq1L9LNSnoc

(update with full question)
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During the war, Germany stockpiled tabun, sarin, and soman but refrained from their use on the battlefield. In total, Germany produced about 78,000 tons of chemical weapons.[4] By 1945 the nation produced about 12,000 tons of tabun and 1,000 pounds (450 kg) of sarin.[4] Delivery systems for the nerve agents included 105 mm and 150 mm artillery shells, a 250 kg bomb and a 150 mm rocket.[4] Even when the Soviets neared Berlin, Adolf Hitler was persuaded not to use tabun as the final trump card. The use of tabun was opposed by Hitler's Minister of Armaments, Albert Speer, who, in 1943, brought IG Farben's nerve agent expert Otto Ambros to report to Hitler. He informed Hitler that the Allies had stopped publication of research into organophosphates (a type of organic compound that encompasses nerve agents) at the beginning of the war, that the essential nature of nerve gases had been published as early as the turn of the century, and that he believed that Allies could not have failed to produce agents like tabun. This was not in fact the case, but Hitler accepted Ambros's deduction, and Germany's tabun arsenal remained unused.[5]
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Alternative Facts.

Uhhhhhh
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lmao
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Cool.
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What a fucking moron...

... I can't face palm any harder. Help.
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i know you guys are talking about gassing jews but that's not quite the same as chemical weapons
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Bok_Choi posted...

i know you guys are talking about gassing jews but that's not quite the same as chemical weapons

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Bok_Choi posted...

i know you guys are talking about gassing jews but that's not quite the same as chemical weapons

lww99 posted...

... I can't face palm any harder. Help.

>using chemicals to mass murder civilians
>chemical warfare

they're not the same thing
technically sean spicer is not wrong here
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It obviously doesn't make it any less shitty but there is a difference
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you guys are silly

i even posted wiki excerpt that says hitler never used it in combat

DarthAragorn posted...

It obviously doesn't make it any less shitty but there is a difference

yeah, and i didn't say it was any less shitty
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You guys know I dislike Trump and Spicer, but it's clear what he was saying and I don't think it's an unreasonable point. I understand the incredulity though.
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even hitler didn't illegally pirate movies
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Makes you wonder what he thinks about the Holocaust
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Hitler also pushed for animal cruelty laws that later became the bread and butter of western law
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Bok_Choi posted...

>using chemicals to mass murder civilians
>chemical warfare

they're not the same thing
technically sean spicer is not wrong here

He then "clarified" by saying Hitler "didnt use gas on his own people in the same way"

Please
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TheVipaGTS posted...

Alternative Facts.

Ampelas posted...

What a fucking moron...

So as long as you round people up beforehand it doesn't count?
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RebelElite791 posted...

Makes you wonder what he thinks about the Holocaust

He probably views it as separate from battlefield use. Not to say that's appropriate, but it's not an unheard of perspective. It's honestly pretty common when talking about the military history of the war.
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UnfairRepresent posted...

Hitler also pushed for animal cruelty laws that later became the bread and butter of western law

He was also big on anti-smoking laws and awareness of the health effects.
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Even Hitler never punched a Nazi
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Hitler was a vegetarian
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RebelElite791 posted...

Bok_Choi posted...

>using chemicals to mass murder civilians
>chemical warfare

they're not the same thing
technically sean spicer is not wrong here

He then "clarified" by saying Hitler "didnt use gas on his own people in the same way"

Please

Yeah, if he specified with "on his own people", that's extremely questionable. He seems to be specifically talking about attacks, but that's rather arbitrary.
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Number39 posted...

Technically he and Bok are right.
Gas as a method of execution is different than dropping Tabun bombs on soldiers, it's not war, it's just execution

RebelElite791 posted...

He then "clarified" by saying Hitler "didnt use gas on his own people in the same way"

Please

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Also, it's a really stupid thing to say.

I bet Atilla the Hun, Mussolini and Napoleon didn't sink low enough to hack their enemies! They never ever sent a denial of service attack or an E-mail virus!!!

Okay Hitler didn't use chemical weapons as a military tactic, but using chemical weapons is still kind of what he's most infamous for, given that he used them to help with the whole genocide routine
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"The holocaust centers."
https://twitter.com/ABC/status/851861601556627457
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Hitler might not have done it but the Germans did employ chemical warfare near the end of WW1. His point is also kinda moot cause, you know, the whole gassing Jews thing.
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RebelElite791 posted...

Makes you wonder what he thinks about the Holocaust

Pretty sure he would deny it outright.
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XmasPikachu posted...

Also, it's a really stupid thing to say.

What's sad is it's probably not the stupidest thing this administration has said.

Antifar posted...

"The holocaust centers."
https://twitter.com/ABC/status/851861601556627457

...This might be though.
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Antifar posted...

"The holocaust centers."
https://twitter.com/ABC/status/851861601556627457

Man how hard can it really be to not sound this dumb
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Antifar posted...

"The holocaust centers."
https://twitter.com/ABC/status/851861601556627457

What the fuck...?

Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehhhhhhhhhh

To play devil's advocate it's clear what he means.

He just phrased it so badly both denying chemical weapons and "holocaust centers" I think he just got flustered.

It's like if someone said "I have some coke in my fridge if you want one" and then getting mad because it's actually Pepsi.

His point is that Hilter didn't drop tabun bombs on allied forces despite being capable of doing so. Bashar or at least his men did,


Feels weird defending Spicer because he's so out of his depth it's comical but these feels like textbook "Gotcha!" media reaction to poor wording rather than actually doing something horrible.


Edit: Where the fuck did Bashir come from O_o
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He's technically not incorrect since Hitler never employed chemical weapons in war. I'm just not sure what Spicer was hoping to gain by comparing Assad to an individual who is still infamous for using chemicals to kill his own people, even if it wasn't in weapon form.
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UnfairRepresent posted...

Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehhhhhhhhhh

To play devil's advocate

The contrarian wants to play devil's advocate. Everyone is surprised. :3
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Gheb posted...

He's technically not incorrect since Hitler never employed chemical weapons in war. I'm just not sure what Spicer was hoping to gain by comparing Assad to an individual who is still infamous for using chemicals to kill his own people, even if it wasn't in weapon form.

He was trying to say "This dude is more callous and dangerous than Hitler!" to appeal to stupid people and justify increased US intervention
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UnfairRepresent posted...

Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehhhhhhhhhh

To play devil's advocate it's clear what he means.

He just phrased it so badly both denying chemical weapons and "holocaust centers" I think he just got flustered.

It's like if someone said "I have some coke in my fridge if you want one" and then getting mad because it's actually Pepsi.

His point is that Hilter didn't drop tabun bombs on allied forces despite being capable of doing so. Bashar or at least his men did,


Feels weird defending Spicer because he's so out of his depth it's comical but these feels like textbook "Gotcha!" media reaction to poor wording rather than actually doing something horrible.


Edit: Where the fuck did Bashir come from O_o

This so hard. It's clear what he's trying to say, everyone just wants fake outrage
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Gheb posted...

I'm just not sure what Spicer was hoping to gain

They were taking the troll argument of "Trump is literally Hitler" seriously and had to make Assad sound worse somehow. Probably. This administration isn't really known for thinking things through.
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UnfairRepresent posted...

Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehhhhhhhhhh

To play devil's advocate it's clear what he means.

He just phrased it so badly both denying chemical weapons and "holocaust centers" I think he just got flustered.

It's like if someone said "I have some coke in my fridge if you want one" and then getting mad because it's actually Pepsi.

His point is that Hilter didn't drop tabun bombs on allied forces despite being capable of doing so. Bashar or at least his men did,


Feels weird defending Spicer because he's so out of his depth it's comical but these feels like textbook "Gotcha!" media reaction to poor wording rather than actually doing something horrible.


Edit: Where the fuck did Bashir come from O_o

But what the fuck was the point of his comment even it is technically true? It is also true Hitler killed millions of people with chemicals. "Yeah, but he never dropped it on them from the sky" is such a meaningless statement. His only possible point could be that Syria is worse that Hitler and that is questionable to say the least. I didn't even know there was a "murdering your own people" Olympics that one needed to win to be considered bad.
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hockeybub89 posted...

UnfairRepresent posted...

Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehhhhhhhhhh

To play devil's advocate it's clear what he means.

He just phrased it so badly both denying chemical weapons and "holocaust centers" I think he just got flustered.

It's like if someone said "I have some coke in my fridge if you want one" and then getting mad because it's actually Pepsi.

His point is that Hilter didn't drop tabun bombs on allied forces despite being capable of doing so. Bashar or at least his men did,


Feels weird defending Spicer because he's so out of his depth it's comical but these feels like textbook "Gotcha!" media reaction to poor wording rather than actually doing something horrible.


Edit: Where the fuck did Bashir come from O_o

But what the fuck was the point of his comment even it is technically true? It is also true Hitler killed millions of people with chemicals. "Yeah, but he never dropped it on them from the sky" is such a meaningless statement.

Sure, but the outrage is overblown. It can easily be dismissed as an arbitrary statement made to justify their choices. Not exactly unheard of in American politics.
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That_Happened posted...

UnfairRepresent posted...

Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehhhhhhhhhh

To play devil's advocate

The contrarian wants to play devil's advocate. Everyone is surprised. :3

kek

3rd_Best_Master posted...

Hitler might not have done it but the Germans did employ chemical warfare near the end of WW1. His point is also kinda moot cause, you know, the whole gassing Jews thing.

All sides in WWI started using gas fairly early in the war. 1915 I believe.
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CowboyDan posted...

hockeybub89 posted...

UnfairRepresent posted...

Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehhhhhhhhhh

To play devil's advocate it's clear what he means.

He just phrased it so badly both denying chemical weapons and "holocaust centers" I think he just got flustered.

It's like if someone said "I have some coke in my fridge if you want one" and then getting mad because it's actually Pepsi.

His point is that Hilter didn't drop tabun bombs on allied forces despite being capable of doing so. Bashar or at least his men did,


Feels weird defending Spicer because he's so out of his depth it's comical but these feels like textbook "Gotcha!" media reaction to poor wording rather than actually doing something horrible.


Edit: Where the fuck did Bashir come from O_o

But what the fuck was the point of his comment even it is technically true? It is also true Hitler killed millions of people with chemicals. "Yeah, but he never dropped it on them from the sky" is such a meaningless statement.

Sure, but the outrage is overblown. It can easily be dismissed as an arbitrary statement made to justify their choices. Not exactly unheard of in American politics.

If anything, other instances are underblown. There hasn't been enough outrage in this country over the years. I hope this administration becomes worse and worse so people can finally wake the fuck up and stop ignoring what their country does. Trump could be one of the most important Presidents in history if we play our cards right.
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It shouldn't be a real quote

but it is...
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hockeybub89 posted...

But what the fuck was the point of his comment even it is technically true?

UnfairRepresent posted...

He was trying to say "This dude is more callous and dangerous than Hitler!" to appeal to stupid people and justify increased US intervention

Murican Bob: "You bombed those guys!? that bad!"

Spicer: "Those guys are worse than Hitler!"

Murican Bob: "Oh! Ur good then"
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"Say what you like about Hitler, but there were some ethical boundaries that he refused to cross!"
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