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TheVipaGTS 04/06/17 6:58:52 PM #102: |
RamboCell29 posted...
I have no doubt she is brilliant but lots of really smart white and Asian students don't get that distinction. Not everyone can get accepted every year. I'm sure plenty of Asian and white people got accepted to those schools. Should they get first priority over black People? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EcchiBaka 04/06/17 6:59:48 PM #103: |
TheVipaGTS posted...
EcchiBaka posted...CE will gladly push the white privilege meme but won't recognize affirmative action? Who's the real racists? Does it? And if it does are you willing to admit this black woman got a free pass? Or is it all just a sham and this black woman earned her share? --- http://anilist.co/user/EcchiBaka/mangalist I hunt monsters. 4U/Gen - 3411-4205-3012. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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StealthRock 04/06/17 7:00:18 PM #104: |
EcchiBaka posted...
CE will gladly push the white privilege meme but won't recognize affirmative action? Who's the real racists? you still are --- Pokemon is awesome ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kineth 04/06/17 7:00:50 PM #105: |
StealthRock posted...
EcchiBaka posted...CE will gladly push the white privilege meme but won't recognize affirmative action? Who's the real racists? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Khalpz 04/06/17 7:03:00 PM #106: |
Harvard
Gotta go Harvard --- "i was a mistake" - ahmedzub ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheVipaGTS 04/06/17 7:06:25 PM #107: |
EcchiBaka posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...EcchiBaka posted...CE will gladly push the white privilege meme but won't recognize affirmative action? Who's the real racists? Why would I have to admit that? You are the one who made the comparison. You brought up white privelage with regard to this. I have no reason to believe this woman isn't a smart and established person who got into these schools on her merits. Why do you think otherwise? What indication do you have to think otherwise? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Capn Circus 04/06/17 7:07:43 PM #108: |
TheVipaGTS posted...
Capn Circus posted...Teddytalks posted...Most of the CE men here couldn't get into a decent college. A good amount of you are probably unemployed or working some shit job, yet you guys want to make claims that affirmative action help this girl get into all eight colleges. Honestly, if your story is unique enough, and your resume, gpa and SAT Is good enough, it doesn't matter what your race is. Any school will be falling over themselves to get you. Not her grades. I'm sure they're pretty good. Good enough to get into all 8 Ivy Leages and Standford a long with exclusively several other African Americans? And this has supposedly never been accomplished by a white person before, all while we know Affirmative Action exists as a law? Pretty suspect. --- "I think that man will be president right about the time when spaceships come down filled with dinosaurs in red capes" - Tom Hanks ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkphoenix181 04/06/17 7:08:55 PM #109: |
Capn Circus posted...
Good enough to get into all 8 Ivy Leages and Standford a long with exclusively several other African Americans? And this has supposedly never been accomplished by a white person before? Pretty suspect. I think one of the dudes is hispanic --- sigless user is me or am I? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheVipaGTS 04/06/17 7:09:33 PM #110: |
Capn Circus posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...Capn Circus posted...Teddytalks posted...Most of the CE men here couldn't get into a decent college. A good amount of you are probably unemployed or working some shit job, yet you guys want to make claims that affirmative action help this girl get into all eight colleges. Honestly, if your story is unique enough, and your resume, gpa and SAT Is good enough, it doesn't matter what your race is. Any school will be falling over themselves to get you. Oh did no white people get in this year? No I'm sure they did. So when a white person gets in it's all on merits. But if a black person gets in they took a white persons spot because of their skin color? And if you don't think that why are you upset with one black person being good enough to accomplish this? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkphoenix181 04/06/17 7:12:25 PM #111: |
Here is the hispanic guy who did this
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/06/07/01/6Z5f6w9SkHSK2-3113708-In_this_May_28_2015_photo_Fernando_Rojas_a_senior_at_Fullerton_H-a-25_1433637277984.jpg He is Bulgarian and didn't speak English at age 18 http://static4.businessinsider.com/image/55350402eab8ea736f40c1fd-480/stefan-stoykov.png aha 1 white guy https://ssl.cdn.turner.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/170405111226-martin-altenburg-super-169.jpg --- sigless user is me or am I? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Swagnificent119 04/06/17 7:12:28 PM #112: |
So here's my take
You can't really say if it is affirmative action for any one of these people of color that got accepted to ALL of the universities in the past couple years, but you can most certainly see it's political that only people of color seemed to have been able to do this. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Capn Circus 04/06/17 7:14:12 PM #113: |
TheVipaGTS posted...
Capn Circus posted...TheVipaGTS posted...Capn Circus posted...Teddytalks posted...Most of the CE men here couldn't get into a decent college. A good amount of you are probably unemployed or working some shit job, yet you guys want to make claims that affirmative action help this girl get into all eight colleges. Honestly, if your story is unique enough, and your resume, gpa and SAT Is good enough, it doesn't matter what your race is. Any school will be falling over themselves to get you. Not all eight. And that's what we're talking about. Why are you trying to construct a fictitious argument? The topic isn't about whether or not white people got into one or two Ivy Leagues. It's about whether or not it's probable for the obvious trend of people of color getting accepted into all of them without the assistance of affirmative action laws. --- "I think that man will be president right about the time when spaceships come down filled with dinosaurs in red capes" - Tom Hanks ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RchHomieQuanChi 04/06/17 7:15:12 PM #114: |
Funny how quick people are to go "STOP BLAMING WHITE PPL FOR YOUR PROBLEMS BLACK PEOPLE YOU JUST HAVE TO PULL YOURSELF UP BY YOUR BOOTSTRAPS!"
Then when a black person gets into 8 Ivy League schools, suddenly "FUCK ALL THAT YOU GOT IN BECAUSE OF AFFIRMATIVE ACTION!" and then they try to completely downplay any sort of achievement on that individuals' part. But then they'll turn around and say white privilege isn't real, y'all kill me --- I have nothing else to say ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkphoenix181 04/06/17 7:15:15 PM #115: |
Swagnificent119 posted...
So here's my take a basically white bulgarian guy and another white guy did it too actually --- sigless user is me or am I? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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StealthRock 04/06/17 7:25:34 PM #116: |
Capn Circus posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...Capn Circus posted...TheVipaGTS posted...Capn Circus posted...Teddytalks posted...Most of the CE men here couldn't get into a decent college. A good amount of you are probably unemployed or working some shit job, yet you guys want to make claims that affirmative action help this girl get into all eight colleges. Honestly, if your story is unique enough, and your resume, gpa and SAT Is good enough, it doesn't matter what your race is. Any school will be falling over themselves to get you. Because they applied to all eight or more than one??? Several posts have stated that they are all pretty similar and they if you can get into one then getting into another isn't a huge stretch Unless you're saying that all 8 schools had vacant black student spots that they just HAD to fill --- Pokemon is awesome ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheVipaGTS 04/06/17 7:27:12 PM #117: |
Capn Circus posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...Capn Circus posted...TheVipaGTS posted...Capn Circus posted...Teddytalks posted...Most of the CE men here couldn't get into a decent college. A good amount of you are probably unemployed or working some shit job, yet you guys want to make claims that affirmative action help this girl get into all eight colleges. Honestly, if your story is unique enough, and your resume, gpa and SAT Is good enough, it doesn't matter what your race is. Any school will be falling over themselves to get you. How many black people got into all 8? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Simon_Petrikov 04/06/17 7:28:45 PM #118: |
Can we get a nice, easy to read spreadsheet laying out the important details?
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Capn Circus 04/06/17 7:32:03 PM #119: |
TheVipaGTS posted...
Capn Circus posted...TheVipaGTS posted...Capn Circus posted...TheVipaGTS posted...Capn Circus posted...Teddytalks posted...Most of the CE men here couldn't get into a decent college. A good amount of you are probably unemployed or working some shit job, yet you guys want to make claims that affirmative action help this girl get into all eight colleges. Honestly, if your story is unique enough, and your resume, gpa and SAT Is good enough, it doesn't matter what your race is. Any school will be falling over themselves to get you. If I answer the question, are you going to come up with another fictitious argument that doesn't relate to what is being discussed? The number is in the article I posted. Which are 'recent', as described by CNN. --- "I think that man will be president right about the time when spaceships come down filled with dinosaurs in red capes" - Tom Hanks ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheVipaGTS 04/06/17 7:41:21 PM #120: |
So what's the number? And how many have a white student got accepted to? Did every white student who got into less apply for all 8 of them? Why can't you just admit that girl is qualified?
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3khc 04/06/17 7:51:51 PM #122: |
TheoryzC posted...
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Capn Circus 04/06/17 8:01:16 PM #123: |
TheVipaGTS posted...
So what's the number? And how many have a white student got accepted to? Did every white student who got into less apply for all 8 of them? Why can't you just admit that girl is qualified? CNN listed four other 'recent' people accepted into all 8. All who are clearly "black". Given the racial makeup of the U.S. it is a disproportionate amount of people of color getting accepted into all 8. Your other questions can't easily be determined, or determined at all, so we may never know. However, it's safe to assume some people belonging to all nationalities and races would apply for all of them. Unless you have a reason to believe otherwise. Furthermore, Affirmative Action is a law and it is no secret that people are getting preferential treatment due to their race regarding employment and universities. I would have no trouble admitting she is "qualified" if Affirmative Action wasn't a law and there also, at the same time, wasn't a disproportionate amount of people of color getting into all eight. However, given the last two facts I would have to lean towards Affirmative Action playing a role in her admissions. Since you feel otherwise, do you support repealing Affirmative Action since it's clear that so many people of color are getting into universities because of their "qualifications" and nothing else? --- "I think that man will be president right about the time when spaceships come down filled with dinosaurs in red capes" - Tom Hanks ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Swagnificent119 04/06/17 8:02:08 PM #124: |
darkphoenix181 posted...
a basically white bulgarian guy and another white guy did it too actually I must have misunderstood then. I took it as only people of color had accomplished this recently. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheVipaGTS 04/06/17 8:03:24 PM #125: |
Again do you know how many white people applied for all 8, were qualified for all 8 and only missed out because of her? Why automatically assume she isn't qualified?
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StealthRock 04/06/17 8:04:54 PM #126: |
Capn Circus posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...So what's the number? And how many have a white student got accepted to? Did every white student who got into less apply for all 8 of them? Why can't you just admit that girl is qualified? So it's disproportionate when, at this one time, the applicants accepted happened to all be black?? You can't make this argument unless this happens every single year. but I can assure you it doesn't also, "preferential treatment"?? lmao, that's a good one. Hiring a bunch of non white people in order to not appear racist does not mean that they are treated better than whites --- Pokemon is awesome ... Copied to Clipboard!
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StealthRock 04/06/17 8:06:55 PM #127: |
I can also assure you that you would NOT say it is a disproportionate amount of Asians getting in if they released a story about a list of Asian students getting into all 8 schools. That's just their culture. But, *gasp* a black person??!! impossible!!
They only make up 3% of the population. Much less than black people --- Pokemon is awesome ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Capn Circus 04/06/17 8:12:09 PM #128: |
TheVipaGTS posted...
Again do you know how many white people applied for all 8, were qualified for all 8 and only missed out because of her? Why automatically assume she isn't qualified? You sure are in charge of this conversation, huh? You don't answer questions you ask them! This is obviously going nowhere, but again, "I would have no trouble admitting she is "qualified" if Affirmative Action wasn't a law and there also, at the same time, wasn't a disproportionate amount of people of color getting into all eight. However, given the last two facts I would have to lean towards Affirmative Action playing a role in her admissions. Since you feel otherwise, do you support repealing Affirmative Action since it's clear that so many people of color are getting into universities because of their "qualifications" and nothing else?" We don't know the answer to the other questions you are asking. But we do know that preferential treatment is given based on race, so it wouldn't be some bizarre assumption to make given the circumstances. --- "I think that man will be president right about the time when spaceships come down filled with dinosaurs in red capes" - Tom Hanks ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheVipaGTS 04/06/17 8:23:40 PM #129: |
Why would I answer your questions when you won't answer mine. You're making the acccusation that this is affirmative action. I'm asking you to back that up. I'm asking you to show me where whites and other races got cheated out of a spot just because she's black. You haven't shown me where whites and others were qualified for this schools and missed out because of this student. You just said "other black People also got accepted!" As if that proves your point.
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Capn Circus 04/06/17 8:33:14 PM #130: |
TheVipaGTS posted...
Why would I answer your questions when you won't answer mine. You're making the acccusation that this is affirmative action. I'm asking you to back that up. I'm asking you to show me where whites and other races got cheated out of a spot just because she's black. You haven't shown me where whites and others were qualified for this schools and missed out because of this student. You just said "other black People also got accepted!" As if that proves your point. I've already said we don't know the answers to those questions. The average person doesn't have access to that information, so it's unreasonable to ask that of me. You seem to be completely sidestepping my affirmative action reasoning, not even touching it. Is it not a little odd that all others mentioned in the CNN article are black? Given Affirmative Action is a law and exists, why is wrong to question how the outcome was determined? Does AA exist and no one benefits from it? --- "I think that man will be president right about the time when spaceships come down filled with dinosaurs in red capes" - Tom Hanks ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Capn Circus 04/06/17 8:46:32 PM #131: |
StealthRock posted...
Capn Circus posted...TheVipaGTS posted...So what's the number? And how many have a white student got accepted to? Did every white student who got into less apply for all 8 of them? Why can't you just admit that girl is qualified? These are 'recent', not just all this year. I'd like to see some sources of this being some fluke you chalk it up to be. Show me how the people admitted into all eight universities isn't disproportionately people of color. --- "I think that man will be president right about the time when spaceships come down filled with dinosaurs in red capes" - Tom Hanks ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheVipaGTS 04/06/17 8:46:54 PM #132: |
Exactly we don't know the answer. Could it be affirmative action? Sure. But we have no reason or indiciation that it is. We have absolutely no reason to simply jump to that conclusion. So why is that is the first place your mind went instead of "hey good for her. She did good" says a lot about you. Black people can achieve things without affirmative action you know.
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StealthRock 04/06/17 8:50:04 PM #133: |
Capn Circus posted...
StealthRock posted...Capn Circus posted...TheVipaGTS posted...So what's the number? And how many have a white student got accepted to? Did every white student who got into less apply for all 8 of them? Why can't you just admit that girl is qualified? Look at the student demographics and you'll have your answer You still have yet to show any proof of your claims --- Pokemon is awesome ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Capn Circus 04/06/17 8:56:53 PM #134: |
TheVipaGTS posted...
Exactly we don't know the answer. Could it be affirmative action? Sure. But we have no reason ornidnocstion that it is. We have absolutely no reason to simply jump to that conclusion. Sonwhy that is the first place your kind went instead of "hey good for her. She did good" says a lot about you. We do have reasons, and I've mentioned them already. I wouldn't have made this topic if it wasn't so hard to get into one of those colleges, let alone all eight. They're individually very competitive. Many people have the exact same GPA and test scores and some do have to get turned away. I also wouldn't have made this topic if I didn't see a trend throughout the years. Every year or two, news comes out about someone being accepted into all eight schools. I've noticed recently they are all black. I knew her race before I even clicked on the CNN article. --- "I think that man will be president right about the time when spaceships come down filled with dinosaurs in red capes" - Tom Hanks ... Copied to Clipboard!
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StealthRock 04/06/17 8:58:20 PM #135: |
Capn Circus posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...Exactly we don't know the answer. Could it be affirmative action? Sure. But we have no reason ornidnocstion that it is. We have absolutely no reason to simply jump to that conclusion. Sonwhy that is the first place your kind went instead of "hey good for her. She did good" says a lot about you. Proof please --- Pokemon is awesome ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Capn Circus 04/06/17 9:00:28 PM #136: |
StealthRock posted...
Capn Circus posted...StealthRock posted...Capn Circus posted...TheVipaGTS posted...So what's the number? And how many have a white student got accepted to? Did every white student who got into less apply for all 8 of them? Why can't you just admit that girl is qualified? Student demographics of students who were accepted into all 8 Ivies? Where is that link? I think the article I've provided and what I mentioned in my first post is plenty of "proof". At the very least, it's worth you saying, "That's simply not so. Look at all of these others who have been accepted into all eight Ivy League Universities who are not people of color. There's plenty of them. Take a see for yourself, visit this webpage. Check out this statistic." --- "I think that man will be president right about the time when spaceships come down filled with dinosaurs in red capes" - Tom Hanks ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Drasilor 04/06/17 9:01:39 PM #137: |
All this crying for nothing.
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TheVipaGTS 04/06/17 9:02:59 PM #138: |
Drasilor posted...
All this crying for nothing. Nah man a black girl did good. We have to disparage her. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Capn Circus 04/06/17 9:15:13 PM #140: |
kewldude475 posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...Drasilor posted...All this crying for nothing. When people like yourself don't have any reasonable counter argument or examples to discredit my statements, you simply label me as a hater or being jealous. Outstanding. Wonderful job. --- "I think that man will be president right about the time when spaceships come down filled with dinosaurs in red capes" - Tom Hanks ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BGleason22 04/06/17 9:21:15 PM #141: |
http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/05/us/nd-teen-ivy-league-trnd/
All 8 ivy league schools + Stanford and MIT Sorry if this has been posted, I'm not going to read 3 pages of "nah uh" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gatorsPENSbucs 04/06/17 9:25:07 PM #143: |
Read an article and it said nothing about her grades or hopes or anything. I'm sure after however many posts someone has mentioned she's smart, hopefully, and good for her.
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StealthRock 04/06/17 9:26:34 PM #145: |
Capn Circus posted...
StealthRock posted...Capn Circus posted...StealthRock posted...Capn Circus posted...TheVipaGTS posted...So what's the number? And how many have a white student got accepted to? Did every white student who got into less apply for all 8 of them? Why can't you just admit that girl is qualified? Lol proof of what?? That a black girl got accepted to 8 schools?? Short of the schools stating that "we are making moves to be political" you have no proof that they rigidly abide by affirmative action laws. I have personally never seen any business that does, but you hating ass racists think that every time YOU don't get a job, it's because a colored person got it instead --- Pokemon is awesome ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Simon_Petrikov 04/06/17 9:37:58 PM #146: |
StealthRock posted...
Short of the schools stating that "we are making moves to be political" you have no proof that they rigidly abide by affirmative action laws. I have personally never seen any business that does, but you hating ass racists think that every time YOU don't get a job, it's because a colored person got it instead Unfortunately, these peeps can make those claims all they want with no burden of proof. --- ~The (N)ice King~ http://i.imgur.com/V0NMmmo.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Capn Circus 04/06/17 9:39:56 PM #147: |
kewldude475 posted...
Capn Circus posted...kewldude475 posted...TheVipaGTS posted...Drasilor posted...All this crying for nothing. What does that tell me? What does that do to disprove my argument? It partly shows that she's a good student, hard working, and likely pretty intelligent. It's not some smoking gun that proves why she should have been accepted into all EIGHT schools In no way am I saying she is completely unworthy of attending an Ivy League school. That is not the center of discussion now or prior. --- "I think that man will be president right about the time when spaceships come down filled with dinosaurs in red capes" - Tom Hanks ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Capn Circus 04/06/17 9:42:46 PM #148: |
kewldude475 posted...
I'm gonna take a wild guess and say she got straight A's. So does pretty much everyone applying to an Ivy League school. --- "I think that man will be president right about the time when spaceships come down filled with dinosaurs in red capes" - Tom Hanks ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Capn Circus 04/06/17 9:47:57 PM #150: |
StealthRock posted...
Capn Circus posted...StealthRock posted...Capn Circus posted...StealthRock posted...Capn Circus posted...TheVipaGTS posted...So what's the number? And how many have a white student got accepted to? Did every white student who got into less apply for all 8 of them? Why can't you just admit that girl is qualified? Affirmative action is the law. It is absolutely enforced. You cannot adequately disprove my statements. Calling me a hater and a racist is how most of these discussions end up going once the left cannot adequately present a counter argument. I'm sure you'll get affirmative action support from your peers. Good work! --- "I think that man will be president right about the time when spaceships come down filled with dinosaurs in red capes" - Tom Hanks ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Capn Circus 04/06/17 9:50:10 PM #152: |
kewldude475 posted...
Capn Circus posted...kewldude475 posted...I'm gonna take a wild guess and say she got straight A's. Everyone else has other qualifications as well. --- "I think that man will be president right about the time when spaceships come down filled with dinosaurs in red capes" - Tom Hanks ... Copied to Clipboard!
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