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TheVipaGTS
04/06/17 6:58:52 PM
#102:


RamboCell29 posted...
I have no doubt she is brilliant but lots of really smart white and Asian students don't get that distinction.

Not everyone can get accepted every year. I'm sure plenty of Asian and white people got accepted to those schools. Should they get first priority over black People?
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EcchiBaka
04/06/17 6:59:48 PM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
EcchiBaka posted...
CE will gladly push the white privilege meme but won't recognize affirmative action? Who's the real racists?

So by comparing the two are you admitting that white lrivelage exists?

Does it? And if it does are you willing to admit this black woman got a free pass?

Or is it all just a sham and this black woman earned her share?
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StealthRock
04/06/17 7:00:18 PM
#104:


EcchiBaka posted...
CE will gladly push the white privilege meme but won't recognize affirmative action? Who's the real racists?

you still are
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Kineth
04/06/17 7:00:50 PM
#105:


StealthRock posted...
EcchiBaka posted...
CE will gladly push the white privilege meme but won't recognize affirmative action? Who's the real racists?

you still are

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Khalpz
04/06/17 7:03:00 PM
#106:


Harvard

Gotta go Harvard
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TheVipaGTS
04/06/17 7:06:25 PM
#107:


EcchiBaka posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
EcchiBaka posted...
CE will gladly push the white privilege meme but won't recognize affirmative action? Who's the real racists?

So by comparing the two are you admitting that white lrivelage exists?

Does it? And if it does are you willing to admit this black woman got a free pass?

Or is it all just a sham and this black woman earned her share?

Why would I have to admit that? You are the one who made the comparison. You brought up white privelage with regard to this. I have no reason to believe this woman isn't a smart and established person who got into these schools on her merits. Why do you think otherwise? What indication do you have to think otherwise?
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Capn Circus
04/06/17 7:07:43 PM
#108:


TheVipaGTS posted...
Capn Circus posted...
Teddytalks posted...
Most of the CE men here couldn't get into a decent college. A good amount of you are probably unemployed or working some shit job, yet you guys want to make claims that affirmative action help this girl get into all eight colleges. Honestly, if your story is unique enough, and your resume, gpa and SAT Is good enough, it doesn't matter what your race is. Any school will be falling over themselves to get you.


"good enough" to fall into a threshold of acceptance given your race? Or good enough without laws to prop people up?

Do you know what her grades and qualifications are?


Not her grades. I'm sure they're pretty good.

Good enough to get into all 8 Ivy Leages and Standford a long with exclusively several other African Americans? And this has supposedly never been accomplished by a white person before, all while we know Affirmative Action exists as a law? Pretty suspect.
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darkphoenix181
04/06/17 7:08:55 PM
#109:


Capn Circus posted...
Good enough to get into all 8 Ivy Leages and Standford a long with exclusively several other African Americans? And this has supposedly never been accomplished by a white person before? Pretty suspect.


I think one of the dudes is hispanic
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TheVipaGTS
04/06/17 7:09:33 PM
#110:


Capn Circus posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
Capn Circus posted...
Teddytalks posted...
Most of the CE men here couldn't get into a decent college. A good amount of you are probably unemployed or working some shit job, yet you guys want to make claims that affirmative action help this girl get into all eight colleges. Honestly, if your story is unique enough, and your resume, gpa and SAT Is good enough, it doesn't matter what your race is. Any school will be falling over themselves to get you.


"good enough" to fall into a threshold of acceptance given your race? Or good enough without laws to prop people up?

Do you know what her grades and qualifications are?


Not her grades. I'm sure they're pretty good.

Good enough to get into all 8 Ivy Leages and Standford a long with exclusively several other African Americans? And this has supposedly never been accomplished by a white person before? Pretty suspect.

Oh did no white people get in this year? No I'm sure they did. So when a white person gets in it's all on merits. But if a black person gets in they took a white persons spot because of their skin color? And if you don't think that why are you upset with one black person being good enough to accomplish this?
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darkphoenix181
04/06/17 7:12:25 PM
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Swagnificent119
04/06/17 7:12:28 PM
#112:


So here's my take

You can't really say if it is affirmative action for any one of these people of color that got accepted to ALL of the universities in the past couple years, but you can most certainly see it's political that only people of color seemed to have been able to do this.
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Capn Circus
04/06/17 7:14:12 PM
#113:


TheVipaGTS posted...
Capn Circus posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
Capn Circus posted...
Teddytalks posted...
Most of the CE men here couldn't get into a decent college. A good amount of you are probably unemployed or working some shit job, yet you guys want to make claims that affirmative action help this girl get into all eight colleges. Honestly, if your story is unique enough, and your resume, gpa and SAT Is good enough, it doesn't matter what your race is. Any school will be falling over themselves to get you.


"good enough" to fall into a threshold of acceptance given your race? Or good enough without laws to prop people up?

Do you know what her grades and qualifications are?


Not her grades. I'm sure they're pretty good.

Good enough to get into all 8 Ivy Leages and Standford a long with exclusively several other African Americans? And this has supposedly never been accomplished by a white person before? Pretty suspect.

Oh did no white people get in this year? No I'm sure they did. So when a white person gets in it's all on merits. But if a black person gets in they took a white persons spot because of their skin color? And if you don't think that why are you upset with one black person being good enough to accomplish this?


Not all eight. And that's what we're talking about. Why are you trying to construct a fictitious argument? The topic isn't about whether or not white people got into one or two Ivy Leagues.

It's about whether or not it's probable for the obvious trend of people of color getting accepted into all of them without the assistance of affirmative action laws.
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RchHomieQuanChi
04/06/17 7:15:12 PM
#114:


Funny how quick people are to go "STOP BLAMING WHITE PPL FOR YOUR PROBLEMS BLACK PEOPLE YOU JUST HAVE TO PULL YOURSELF UP BY YOUR BOOTSTRAPS!"


Then when a black person gets into 8 Ivy League schools, suddenly "FUCK ALL THAT YOU GOT IN BECAUSE OF AFFIRMATIVE ACTION!" and then they try to completely downplay any sort of achievement on that individuals' part.


But then they'll turn around and say white privilege isn't real, y'all kill me
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darkphoenix181
04/06/17 7:15:15 PM
#115:


Swagnificent119 posted...
So here's my take

You can't really say if it is affirmative action for any one of these people of color that got accepted to ALL of the universities in the past couple years, but you can most certainly see it's political that only people of color seemed to have been able to do this.


a basically white bulgarian guy and another white guy did it too actually
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StealthRock
04/06/17 7:25:34 PM
#116:


Capn Circus posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
Capn Circus posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
Capn Circus posted...
Teddytalks posted...
Most of the CE men here couldn't get into a decent college. A good amount of you are probably unemployed or working some shit job, yet you guys want to make claims that affirmative action help this girl get into all eight colleges. Honestly, if your story is unique enough, and your resume, gpa and SAT Is good enough, it doesn't matter what your race is. Any school will be falling over themselves to get you.


"good enough" to fall into a threshold of acceptance given your race? Or good enough without laws to prop people up?

Do you know what her grades and qualifications are?


Not her grades. I'm sure they're pretty good.

Good enough to get into all 8 Ivy Leages and Standford a long with exclusively several other African Americans? And this has supposedly never been accomplished by a white person before? Pretty suspect.

Oh did no white people get in this year? No I'm sure they did. So when a white person gets in it's all on merits. But if a black person gets in they took a white persons spot because of their skin color? And if you don't think that why are you upset with one black person being good enough to accomplish this?


Not all eight. And that's what we're talking about. Why are you trying to construct a fictitious argument? The topic isn't about whether or not white people got into one or two Ivy Leagues.

It's about whether or not it's probable for the obvious trend of people of color getting accepted into all of them without the assistance of affirmative action laws.

Because they applied to all eight or more than one???


Several posts have stated that they are all pretty similar and they if you can get into one then getting into another isn't a huge stretch

Unless you're saying that all 8 schools had vacant black student spots that they just HAD to fill
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TheVipaGTS
04/06/17 7:27:12 PM
#117:


Capn Circus posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
Capn Circus posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
Capn Circus posted...
Teddytalks posted...
Most of the CE men here couldn't get into a decent college. A good amount of you are probably unemployed or working some shit job, yet you guys want to make claims that affirmative action help this girl get into all eight colleges. Honestly, if your story is unique enough, and your resume, gpa and SAT Is good enough, it doesn't matter what your race is. Any school will be falling over themselves to get you.


"good enough" to fall into a threshold of acceptance given your race? Or good enough without laws to prop people up?

Do you know what her grades and qualifications are?


Not her grades. I'm sure they're pretty good.

Good enough to get into all 8 Ivy Leages and Standford a long with exclusively several other African Americans? And this has supposedly never been accomplished by a white person before? Pretty suspect.

Oh did no white people get in this year? No I'm sure they did. So when a white person gets in it's all on merits. But if a black person gets in they took a white persons spot because of their skin color? And if you don't think that why are you upset with one black person being good enough to accomplish this?


Not all eight. And that's what we're talking about. Why are you trying to construct a fictitious argument? The topic isn't about whether or not white people got into one or two Ivy Leagues.

It's about whether or not it's probable for the obvious trend of people of color getting accepted into all of them without the assistance of affirmative action laws.

How many black people got into all 8?
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Simon_Petrikov
04/06/17 7:28:45 PM
#118:


Can we get a nice, easy to read spreadsheet laying out the important details?
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Capn Circus
04/06/17 7:32:03 PM
#119:


TheVipaGTS posted...
Capn Circus posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
Capn Circus posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
Capn Circus posted...
Teddytalks posted...
Most of the CE men here couldn't get into a decent college. A good amount of you are probably unemployed or working some shit job, yet you guys want to make claims that affirmative action help this girl get into all eight colleges. Honestly, if your story is unique enough, and your resume, gpa and SAT Is good enough, it doesn't matter what your race is. Any school will be falling over themselves to get you.


"good enough" to fall into a threshold of acceptance given your race? Or good enough without laws to prop people up?

Do you know what her grades and qualifications are?


Not her grades. I'm sure they're pretty good.

Good enough to get into all 8 Ivy Leages and Standford a long with exclusively several other African Americans? And this has supposedly never been accomplished by a white person before? Pretty suspect.

Oh did no white people get in this year? No I'm sure they did. So when a white person gets in it's all on merits. But if a black person gets in they took a white persons spot because of their skin color? And if you don't think that why are you upset with one black person being good enough to accomplish this?


Not all eight. And that's what we're talking about. Why are you trying to construct a fictitious argument? The topic isn't about whether or not white people got into one or two Ivy Leagues.

It's about whether or not it's probable for the obvious trend of people of color getting accepted into all of them without the assistance of affirmative action laws.

How many black people got into all 8?


If I answer the question, are you going to come up with another fictitious argument that doesn't relate to what is being discussed?

The number is in the article I posted. Which are 'recent', as described by CNN.
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TheVipaGTS
04/06/17 7:41:21 PM
#120:


So what's the number? And how many have a white student got accepted to? Did every white student who got into less apply for all 8 of them? Why can't you just admit that girl is qualified?
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3khc
04/06/17 7:51:51 PM
#122:


TheoryzC posted...
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Capn Circus
04/06/17 8:01:16 PM
#123:


TheVipaGTS posted...
So what's the number? And how many have a white student got accepted to? Did every white student who got into less apply for all 8 of them? Why can't you just admit that girl is qualified?


CNN listed four other 'recent' people accepted into all 8. All who are clearly "black". Given the racial makeup of the U.S. it is a disproportionate amount of people of color getting accepted into all 8.

Your other questions can't easily be determined, or determined at all, so we may never know. However, it's safe to assume some people belonging to all nationalities and races would apply for all of them. Unless you have a reason to believe otherwise.

Furthermore, Affirmative Action is a law and it is no secret that people are getting preferential treatment due to their race regarding employment and universities.

I would have no trouble admitting she is "qualified" if Affirmative Action wasn't a law and there also, at the same time, wasn't a disproportionate amount of people of color getting into all eight. However, given the last two facts I would have to lean towards Affirmative Action playing a role in her admissions.

Since you feel otherwise, do you support repealing Affirmative Action since it's clear that so many people of color are getting into universities because of their "qualifications" and nothing else?
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Swagnificent119
04/06/17 8:02:08 PM
#124:


darkphoenix181 posted...
a basically white bulgarian guy and another white guy did it too actually


I must have misunderstood then. I took it as only people of color had accomplished this recently.
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TheVipaGTS
04/06/17 8:03:24 PM
#125:


Again do you know how many white people applied for all 8, were qualified for all 8 and only missed out because of her? Why automatically assume she isn't qualified?
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StealthRock
04/06/17 8:04:54 PM
#126:


Capn Circus posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
So what's the number? And how many have a white student got accepted to? Did every white student who got into less apply for all 8 of them? Why can't you just admit that girl is qualified?


CNN listed four other 'recent' people accepted into all 8. All who are clearly "black". Given the racial makeup of the U.S. it is a disproportionate amount of people of color getting accepted into all 8.

Your other questions can't easily be determined, or determined at all, so we may never know. However, it's safe to assume some people belonging to all nationalities and races would apply for all of them. Unless you have a reason to believe otherwise.

Furthermore, Affirmative Action is a law and it is no secret that people are getting preferential treatment due to their race regarding employment and universities.

I would have no trouble admitting she is "qualified" if Affirmative Action wasn't a law and there also, at the same time, wasn't a disproportionate amount of people of color getting into all eight. However, given the last two facts I would have to lean towards Affirmative Action playing a role in her admissions.

Since you feel otherwise, do you support repealing Affirmative Action since it's clear that so many people of color are getting into universities because of their "qualifications" and nothing else?

So it's disproportionate when, at this one time, the applicants accepted happened to all be black??

You can't make this argument unless this happens every single year. but I can assure you it doesn't

also, "preferential treatment"?? lmao, that's a good one.

Hiring a bunch of non white people in order to not appear racist does not mean that they are treated better than whites
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StealthRock
04/06/17 8:06:55 PM
#127:


I can also assure you that you would NOT say it is a disproportionate amount of Asians getting in if they released a story about a list of Asian students getting into all 8 schools. That's just their culture. But, *gasp* a black person??!! impossible!!

They only make up 3% of the population. Much less than black people
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Capn Circus
04/06/17 8:12:09 PM
#128:


TheVipaGTS posted...
Again do you know how many white people applied for all 8, were qualified for all 8 and only missed out because of her? Why automatically assume she isn't qualified?


You sure are in charge of this conversation, huh? You don't answer questions you ask them! This is obviously going nowhere, but again,

"I would have no trouble admitting she is "qualified" if Affirmative Action wasn't a law and there also, at the same time, wasn't a disproportionate amount of people of color getting into all eight. However, given the last two facts I would have to lean towards Affirmative Action playing a role in her admissions.

Since you feel otherwise, do you support repealing Affirmative Action since it's clear that so many people of color are getting into universities because of their "qualifications" and nothing else?"


We don't know the answer to the other questions you are asking. But we do know that preferential treatment is given based on race, so it wouldn't be some bizarre assumption to make given the circumstances.
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TheVipaGTS
04/06/17 8:23:40 PM
#129:


Why would I answer your questions when you won't answer mine. You're making the acccusation that this is affirmative action. I'm asking you to back that up. I'm asking you to show me where whites and other races got cheated out of a spot just because she's black. You haven't shown me where whites and others were qualified for this schools and missed out because of this student. You just said "other black People also got accepted!" As if that proves your point.
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Capn Circus
04/06/17 8:33:14 PM
#130:


TheVipaGTS posted...
Why would I answer your questions when you won't answer mine. You're making the acccusation that this is affirmative action. I'm asking you to back that up. I'm asking you to show me where whites and other races got cheated out of a spot just because she's black. You haven't shown me where whites and others were qualified for this schools and missed out because of this student. You just said "other black People also got accepted!" As if that proves your point.


I've already said we don't know the answers to those questions. The average person doesn't have access to that information, so it's unreasonable to ask that of me.

You seem to be completely sidestepping my affirmative action reasoning, not even touching it.

Is it not a little odd that all others mentioned in the CNN article are black? Given Affirmative Action is a law and exists, why is wrong to question how the outcome was determined? Does AA exist and no one benefits from it?
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Capn Circus
04/06/17 8:46:32 PM
#131:


StealthRock posted...
Capn Circus posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
So what's the number? And how many have a white student got accepted to? Did every white student who got into less apply for all 8 of them? Why can't you just admit that girl is qualified?


CNN listed four other 'recent' people accepted into all 8. All who are clearly "black". Given the racial makeup of the U.S. it is a disproportionate amount of people of color getting accepted into all 8.

Your other questions can't easily be determined, or determined at all, so we may never know. However, it's safe to assume some people belonging to all nationalities and races would apply for all of them. Unless you have a reason to believe otherwise.

Furthermore, Affirmative Action is a law and it is no secret that people are getting preferential treatment due to their race regarding employment and universities.

I would have no trouble admitting she is "qualified" if Affirmative Action wasn't a law and there also, at the same time, wasn't a disproportionate amount of people of color getting into all eight. However, given the last two facts I would have to lean towards Affirmative Action playing a role in her admissions.

Since you feel otherwise, do you support repealing Affirmative Action since it's clear that so many people of color are getting into universities because of their "qualifications" and nothing else?

So it's disproportionate when, at this one time, the applicants accepted happened to all be black??

You can't make this argument unless this happens every single year. but I can assure you it doesn't

also, "preferential treatment"?? lmao, that's a good one.

Hiring a bunch of non white people in order to not appear racist does not mean that they are treated better than whites


These are 'recent', not just all this year.

I'd like to see some sources of this being some fluke you chalk it up to be. Show me how the people admitted into all eight universities isn't disproportionately people of color.
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TheVipaGTS
04/06/17 8:46:54 PM
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Exactly we don't know the answer. Could it be affirmative action? Sure. But we have no reason or indiciation that it is. We have absolutely no reason to simply jump to that conclusion. So why is that is the first place your mind went instead of "hey good for her. She did good" says a lot about you. Black people can achieve things without affirmative action you know.
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StealthRock
04/06/17 8:50:04 PM
#133:


Capn Circus posted...
StealthRock posted...
Capn Circus posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
So what's the number? And how many have a white student got accepted to? Did every white student who got into less apply for all 8 of them? Why can't you just admit that girl is qualified?


CNN listed four other 'recent' people accepted into all 8. All who are clearly "black". Given the racial makeup of the U.S. it is a disproportionate amount of people of color getting accepted into all 8.

Your other questions can't easily be determined, or determined at all, so we may never know. However, it's safe to assume some people belonging to all nationalities and races would apply for all of them. Unless you have a reason to believe otherwise.

Furthermore, Affirmative Action is a law and it is no secret that people are getting preferential treatment due to their race regarding employment and universities.

I would have no trouble admitting she is "qualified" if Affirmative Action wasn't a law and there also, at the same time, wasn't a disproportionate amount of people of color getting into all eight. However, given the last two facts I would have to lean towards Affirmative Action playing a role in her admissions.

Since you feel otherwise, do you support repealing Affirmative Action since it's clear that so many people of color are getting into universities because of their "qualifications" and nothing else?

So it's disproportionate when, at this one time, the applicants accepted happened to all be black??

You can't make this argument unless this happens every single year. but I can assure you it doesn't

also, "preferential treatment"?? lmao, that's a good one.

Hiring a bunch of non white people in order to not appear racist does not mean that they are treated better than whites


These are 'recent', not just all this year.

I'd like to see some sources of this being some fluke you chalk it up to be. Show me how the people admitted into all eight universities isn't disproportionately people of color.



Look at the student demographics and you'll have your answer

You still have yet to show any proof of your claims
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Capn Circus
04/06/17 8:56:53 PM
#134:


TheVipaGTS posted...
Exactly we don't know the answer. Could it be affirmative action? Sure. But we have no reason ornidnocstion that it is. We have absolutely no reason to simply jump to that conclusion. Sonwhy that is the first place your kind went instead of "hey good for her. She did good" says a lot about you.


We do have reasons, and I've mentioned them already.

I wouldn't have made this topic if it wasn't so hard to get into one of those colleges, let alone all eight. They're individually very competitive. Many people have the exact same GPA and test scores and some do have to get turned away.

I also wouldn't have made this topic if I didn't see a trend throughout the years. Every year or two, news comes out about someone being accepted into all eight schools. I've noticed recently they are all black. I knew her race before I even clicked on the CNN article.
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StealthRock
04/06/17 8:58:20 PM
#135:


Capn Circus posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
Exactly we don't know the answer. Could it be affirmative action? Sure. But we have no reason ornidnocstion that it is. We have absolutely no reason to simply jump to that conclusion. Sonwhy that is the first place your kind went instead of "hey good for her. She did good" says a lot about you.


We do have reasons, and I've mentioned them already.

I wouldn't have made this topic if it wasn't so hard to get into one of those colleges, let alone all eight. They're individually very competitive. Many people have the exact same GPA and test scores and some do have to get turned away.

I also wouldn't have made this topic if I didn't see a trend throughout the years. Every year or two, news comes out about someone being accepted into all eight schools. I've noticed recently they are all black. I knew her race before I even clicked on the CNN article.


Proof please
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Capn Circus
04/06/17 9:00:28 PM
#136:


StealthRock posted...
Capn Circus posted...
StealthRock posted...
Capn Circus posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
So what's the number? And how many have a white student got accepted to? Did every white student who got into less apply for all 8 of them? Why can't you just admit that girl is qualified?


CNN listed four other 'recent' people accepted into all 8. All who are clearly "black". Given the racial makeup of the U.S. it is a disproportionate amount of people of color getting accepted into all 8.

Your other questions can't easily be determined, or determined at all, so we may never know. However, it's safe to assume some people belonging to all nationalities and races would apply for all of them. Unless you have a reason to believe otherwise.

Furthermore, Affirmative Action is a law and it is no secret that people are getting preferential treatment due to their race regarding employment and universities.

I would have no trouble admitting she is "qualified" if Affirmative Action wasn't a law and there also, at the same time, wasn't a disproportionate amount of people of color getting into all eight. However, given the last two facts I would have to lean towards Affirmative Action playing a role in her admissions.

Since you feel otherwise, do you support repealing Affirmative Action since it's clear that so many people of color are getting into universities because of their "qualifications" and nothing else?

So it's disproportionate when, at this one time, the applicants accepted happened to all be black??

You can't make this argument unless this happens every single year. but I can assure you it doesn't

also, "preferential treatment"?? lmao, that's a good one.

Hiring a bunch of non white people in order to not appear racist does not mean that they are treated better than whites


These are 'recent', not just all this year.

I'd like to see some sources of this being some fluke you chalk it up to be. Show me how the people admitted into all eight universities isn't disproportionately people of color.



Look at the student demographics and you'll have your answer

You still have yet to show any proof of your claims


Student demographics of students who were accepted into all 8 Ivies? Where is that link?

I think the article I've provided and what I mentioned in my first post is plenty of "proof".

At the very least, it's worth you saying, "That's simply not so. Look at all of these others who have been accepted into all eight Ivy League Universities who are not people of color. There's plenty of them. Take a see for yourself, visit this webpage. Check out this statistic."
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04/06/17 9:01:39 PM
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All this crying for nothing.
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TheVipaGTS
04/06/17 9:02:59 PM
#138:


Drasilor posted...
All this crying for nothing.

Nah man a black girl did good. We have to disparage her.
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Capn Circus
04/06/17 9:15:13 PM
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kewldude475 posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
Drasilor posted...
All this crying for nothing.

Nah man a black girl did good. We have to disparage her.


Sadly this is the actual mentality of this topic. TC clearly has a superiority complex over black people and feels slighted he hasn't achieved the same or else this wouldn't even be an issue. Why do people let the successes of others bother them so much? Why can't people just be happy for others and be happy doing their own thing?


When people like yourself don't have any reasonable counter argument or examples to discredit my statements, you simply label me as a hater or being jealous.

Outstanding. Wonderful job.
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BGleason22
04/06/17 9:21:15 PM
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http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/05/us/nd-teen-ivy-league-trnd/

All 8 ivy league schools + Stanford and MIT

Sorry if this has been posted, I'm not going to read 3 pages of "nah uh"
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gatorsPENSbucs
04/06/17 9:25:07 PM
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Read an article and it said nothing about her grades or hopes or anything. I'm sure after however many posts someone has mentioned she's smart, hopefully, and good for her.
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StealthRock
04/06/17 9:26:34 PM
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Capn Circus posted...
StealthRock posted...
Capn Circus posted...
StealthRock posted...
Capn Circus posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
So what's the number? And how many have a white student got accepted to? Did every white student who got into less apply for all 8 of them? Why can't you just admit that girl is qualified?


CNN listed four other 'recent' people accepted into all 8. All who are clearly "black". Given the racial makeup of the U.S. it is a disproportionate amount of people of color getting accepted into all 8.

Your other questions can't easily be determined, or determined at all, so we may never know. However, it's safe to assume some people belonging to all nationalities and races would apply for all of them. Unless you have a reason to believe otherwise.

Furthermore, Affirmative Action is a law and it is no secret that people are getting preferential treatment due to their race regarding employment and universities.

I would have no trouble admitting she is "qualified" if Affirmative Action wasn't a law and there also, at the same time, wasn't a disproportionate amount of people of color getting into all eight. However, given the last two facts I would have to lean towards Affirmative Action playing a role in her admissions.

Since you feel otherwise, do you support repealing Affirmative Action since it's clear that so many people of color are getting into universities because of their "qualifications" and nothing else?

So it's disproportionate when, at this one time, the applicants accepted happened to all be black??

You can't make this argument unless this happens every single year. but I can assure you it doesn't

also, "preferential treatment"?? lmao, that's a good one.

Hiring a bunch of non white people in order to not appear racist does not mean that they are treated better than whites


These are 'recent', not just all this year.

I'd like to see some sources of this being some fluke you chalk it up to be. Show me how the people admitted into all eight universities isn't disproportionately people of color.



Look at the student demographics and you'll have your answer

You still have yet to show any proof of your claims


Student demographics of students who were accepted into all 8 Ivies? Where is that link?

I think the article I've provided and what I mentioned in my first post is plenty of "proof".

At the very least, it's worth you saying, "That's simply not so. Look at all of these others who have been accepted into all eight Ivy League Universities who are not people of color. There's plenty of them. Take a see for yourself, visit this webpage. Check out this statistic."

Lol proof of what?? That a black girl got accepted to 8 schools??

Short of the schools stating that "we are making moves to be political" you have no proof that they rigidly abide by affirmative action laws. I have personally never seen any business that does, but you hating ass racists think that every time YOU don't get a job, it's because a colored person got it instead
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04/06/17 9:37:58 PM
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StealthRock posted...
Short of the schools stating that "we are making moves to be political" you have no proof that they rigidly abide by affirmative action laws. I have personally never seen any business that does, but you hating ass racists think that every time YOU don't get a job, it's because a colored person got it instead

Unfortunately, these peeps can make those claims all they want with no burden of proof.
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Capn Circus
04/06/17 9:39:56 PM
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kewldude475 posted...
Capn Circus posted...
kewldude475 posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
Drasilor posted...
All this crying for nothing.

Nah man a black girl did good. We have to disparage her.


Sadly this is the actual mentality of this topic. TC clearly has a superiority complex over black people and feels slighted he hasn't achieved the same or else this wouldn't even be an issue. Why do people let the successes of others bother them so much? Why can't people just be happy for others and be happy doing their own thing?


When people like yourself don't have any reasonable counter argument or examples to discredit my statements, you simply label me as a hater or being jealous.

Outstanding. Wonderful job.


kewldude475 posted...
http://heavy.com/news/2017/04/ifeoma-white-thorpe-new-jersey-teen-accepted-8-ivy-league-schools-colleges-universities/


I posted that a whole 24 hours ago. Have you done half of that? I'm not calling you jealous just to be rude I'm just tryna call you on it so you can maybe... idk... change?


What does that tell me? What does that do to disprove my argument?

It partly shows that she's a good student, hard working, and likely pretty intelligent. It's not some smoking gun that proves why she should have been accepted into all EIGHT schools

In no way am I saying she is completely unworthy of attending an Ivy League school. That is not the center of discussion now or prior.
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Capn Circus
04/06/17 9:42:46 PM
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kewldude475 posted...
I'm gonna take a wild guess and say she got straight A's.


So does pretty much everyone applying to an Ivy League school.
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Capn Circus
04/06/17 9:47:57 PM
#150:


StealthRock posted...
Capn Circus posted...
StealthRock posted...
Capn Circus posted...
StealthRock posted...
Capn Circus posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
So what's the number? And how many have a white student got accepted to? Did every white student who got into less apply for all 8 of them? Why can't you just admit that girl is qualified?


CNN listed four other 'recent' people accepted into all 8. All who are clearly "black". Given the racial makeup of the U.S. it is a disproportionate amount of people of color getting accepted into all 8.

Your other questions can't easily be determined, or determined at all, so we may never know. However, it's safe to assume some people belonging to all nationalities and races would apply for all of them. Unless you have a reason to believe otherwise.

Furthermore, Affirmative Action is a law and it is no secret that people are getting preferential treatment due to their race regarding employment and universities.

I would have no trouble admitting she is "qualified" if Affirmative Action wasn't a law and there also, at the same time, wasn't a disproportionate amount of people of color getting into all eight. However, given the last two facts I would have to lean towards Affirmative Action playing a role in her admissions.

Since you feel otherwise, do you support repealing Affirmative Action since it's clear that so many people of color are getting into universities because of their "qualifications" and nothing else?

So it's disproportionate when, at this one time, the applicants accepted happened to all be black??

You can't make this argument unless this happens every single year. but I can assure you it doesn't

also, "preferential treatment"?? lmao, that's a good one.

Hiring a bunch of non white people in order to not appear racist does not mean that they are treated better than whites


These are 'recent', not just all this year.

I'd like to see some sources of this being some fluke you chalk it up to be. Show me how the people admitted into all eight universities isn't disproportionately people of color.



Look at the student demographics and you'll have your answer

You still have yet to show any proof of your claims


Student demographics of students who were accepted into all 8 Ivies? Where is that link?

I think the article I've provided and what I mentioned in my first post is plenty of "proof".

At the very least, it's worth you saying, "That's simply not so. Look at all of these others who have been accepted into all eight Ivy League Universities who are not people of color. There's plenty of them. Take a see for yourself, visit this webpage. Check out this statistic."

Lol proof of what?? That a black girl got accepted to 8 schools??

Short of the schools stating that "we are making moves to be political" you have no proof that they rigidly abide by affirmative action laws. I have personally never seen any business that does, but you hating ass racists think that every time YOU don't get a job, it's because a colored person got it instead


Affirmative action is the law. It is absolutely enforced. You cannot adequately disprove my statements.

Calling me a hater and a racist is how most of these discussions end up going once the left cannot adequately present a counter argument. I'm sure you'll get affirmative action support from your peers. Good work!
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Capn Circus
04/06/17 9:50:10 PM
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kewldude475 posted...
Capn Circus posted...
kewldude475 posted...
I'm gonna take a wild guess and say she got straight A's.


So does pretty much everyone applying to an Ivy League school.


Meaning that she has that, on top of all her other qualifications, making her a fine candidate indeed. 2+2 = 4.


Everyone else has other qualifications as well.
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