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Capn Circus 04/05/17 12:57:55 AM #1: |
CNN goes on to mention others who have overcame the enormous feat of being accepted into all 8 schools---- Students getting into all of the Ivies is a monumental feat, but it's happened to a handful of teens over the past couple of years -- Kwasi Enin in 2014, Harold Ekeh in 2015 and Augusta Uwamanzu-Nna and Kelly Hyles last year. All of the people mentioned are persons of color, specifically what appears to be African American. Are American higher education institutions tapping into previously undiscovered brilliance? Or is this a result of Affirmative Action? http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/04/us/teen-ivy-league-trnd/index.html --- "I think that man will be president right about the time when spaceships come down filled with dinosaurs in red capes" - Tom Hanks ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BadassblackTA 04/05/17 1:03:22 AM #3: |
How do we know she moved here from Africa?
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Doe 04/05/17 1:03:39 AM #4: |
I voted the first option because I am an edgy teenager and I have come to terms with that
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TheoryzC 04/05/17 1:06:05 AM #5: |
Excellence
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Damn_Underscore 04/05/17 1:08:31 AM #6: |
Why would she apply to all of them? The application fee is literally $615
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PiOverlord 04/05/17 1:08:47 AM #7: |
Come on, you're telling me that in a white-majority country, that it just so happens all the extremely-qualified candidates are people of color?
Sorry, I am sure she has the good grades, but this is entirely universities being political. --- Number of legendary 500 post topics: 26, 500th posts: 15; PiO ATTN: 2 Thank the lord, the PiOverlord! RotM wins 1 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Capn Circus 04/05/17 1:10:30 AM #9: |
Damn_Underscore posted...
Why would she apply to all of them? The application fee is literally $615 There's a way around everything. --- "I think that man will be president right about the time when spaceships come down filled with dinosaurs in red capes" - Tom Hanks ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Milkman5 04/05/17 1:15:13 AM #10: |
what's her SAT score?
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SpamtasticMrFox 04/05/17 1:15:43 AM #11: |
Impossible for us to know with the information provided, but we shouldn't assume affirmative action.
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PiOverlord 04/05/17 1:16:09 AM #12: |
kewldude475 posted...
http://heavy.com/news/2017/04/ifeoma-white-thorpe-new-jersey-teen-accepted-8-ivy-league-schools-colleges-universities/ Sure, but I am sure there is a white person that has done the same. --- Number of legendary 500 post topics: 26, 500th posts: 15; PiO ATTN: 2 Thank the lord, the PiOverlord! RotM wins 1 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FighterStreet 04/05/17 1:17:31 AM #13: |
It depends.
She probably went to school with high grade inflation (you know those schools where it's low gpa to have a 3.0). If she had a good SAT score than she is smart, otherwise she's just gonna be your typical switch from bio-->psychology-->History chick you find in college because she was not prepare by her poor high school. or she is just gonna start off on history/music/art majors altogether ... Copied to Clipboard!
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OwlRammer 04/05/17 1:18:01 AM #14: |
but does she have actual street smarts? das what matters the most these days than school "intelligence" lmao
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foreveraIone 04/05/17 1:20:30 AM #16: |
Capn Circus posted...
Students getting into all of the Ivies is a monumental feat, but it's happened to a handful of teens over the past couple of years -- Kwasi Enin in 2014, Harold Ekeh in 2015 and Augusta Uwamanzu-Nna and Kelly Hyles last year. I assume most of them are immigrants? or 2nd generation? Its not untapped potential seeping out. Its not really any different than say Asians getting into Ivy league schools in mass numbers. This is why people against immigration are so wrong. They do much better than the native born population. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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bknight 04/05/17 1:23:29 AM #17: |
I always assumed if you're an Ivy League school top pick, cream of the crop, you'd also be a top pick at any other Ivy League school.
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Blo 04/05/17 1:25:10 AM #18: |
How many children of Harvard alums will get accepted this year?
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Kekistan 04/05/17 1:25:33 AM #19: |
kewldude475 posted...
http://heavy.com/news/2017/04/ifeoma-white-thorpe-new-jersey-teen-accepted-8-ivy-league-schools-colleges-universities/ 2. She Hopes to Become a Cardiologist One Day I am sold. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gunplagirl 04/05/17 1:26:04 AM #20: |
bknight posted...
I always assumed if you're an Ivy League school top pick, cream of the crop, you'd also be a top pick at any other Ivy League school. In theory, but it's always a numbers game for each one. You could get into the hardest to get into one but the lower ones might have more applicants that year and you get bumped off their acceptance list because the lower one had a higher turnout rate given it's in theory easier to get into. Basically, competitiveness versus prestige plus costs factor in heavily to plenty of decisions by students to apply. --- Pokemon Moon FC: 1994-2190-5020 IGN: Vanessa ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Capn Circus 04/05/17 1:48:55 AM #21: |
foreveraIone posted...
Capn Circus posted...Students getting into all of the Ivies is a monumental feat, but it's happened to a handful of teens over the past couple of years -- Kwasi Enin in 2014, Harold Ekeh in 2015 and Augusta Uwamanzu-Nna and Kelly Hyles last year. How come there aren't any Asians in the article being accepted into all 8 Ivies? How come no Latinos? How come not even one white person? Interesting to ponder, that's why there's a poll. --- "I think that man will be president right about the time when spaceships come down filled with dinosaurs in red capes" - Tom Hanks ... Copied to Clipboard!
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lilORANG 04/05/17 1:53:16 AM #22: |
I doubt all 8 schools would accept a dummy just because of her race. She probably has a solid GPA and SAT and resume or whatever the hell they want from kids nowadays.
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Milkman5 04/05/17 1:56:57 AM #23: |
lilORANG posted...
I doubt all 8 schools would accept a dummy just because of her race. She probably has a solid GPA and SAT and resume or whatever the hell they want from kids nowadays. I mean it's probably a combination of both. I need to see what her SAT scores were though. If they were 2400 or whatever is perfect score these days, then it would make sense. If she got less than 2000... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tmaster148 04/05/17 1:57:37 AM #24: |
lilORANG posted...
I doubt all 8 schools would accept a dummy just because of her race. She probably has a solid GPA and SAT and resume or whatever the hell they want from kids nowadays. I feel like many people don't fully understand Affirmative Action either. Affirmative Action gives incentives to create a diversity. It's still not going to get a school to accept someone below their standards just because they are a certain race. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Milkman5 04/05/17 1:58:56 AM #25: |
And by combination I mean a combo of her merits and her race.
I'm not sure if race quotas are legal, but they obviously still do them if you look at admittance scores/GPA of various races for every school. She probably was the most impressive or one of the most impressive black applicants which is a feat in itself, but I think colleges compare applicants more with peers of their race than other people and there are stats to prove that I think ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Alucard188 04/05/17 2:01:04 AM #26: |
Well, good for her. It's nice to see someone's dreams coming true, especially if applied under hard work.
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lilORANG 04/05/17 2:02:26 AM #27: |
Milkman5 posted...
And by combination I mean a combo of her merits and her race. They're not. AA allows race to be considered as a factor of admission, but not a sole determinant. What generally happens with AA is that there's a pool of equally qualified applicants, and race can essentially be used as a tiebreaker in an effort to create diversity. Remember, these elite schools basically only care about their rankings and prestige. They aren't going to admit people with lower than average SAT, because that would lower their overall average and make them look worse. The people getting in still have top scores. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gamepimp12 04/05/17 2:03:31 AM #28: |
Maybe the applicants of other races just aren't good enough
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Milkman5 04/05/17 2:04:51 AM #29: |
You know, I always think to stories like this and think how it unfair it would be to someone whose merits really had nothing to do with race.
Like hypothetically, let's say she still would have gotten into all 8 schools if she was Asian, that there would always be someone doubting it regardless and I think how unfair it is with how merit is no longer valued to those who actually have merit of all races but then I think, yeah I mean statistically it probably played a factor and how bad can I even feel for someone who got into 8 ivy league schools lmfao ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Medz8606 04/05/17 2:05:17 AM #30: |
Black privilege
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Milkman5 04/05/17 2:06:26 AM #31: |
also is it any worse than the kids who get in through connections or other stupid means.
There's that one kid who got in and wrote BLACK LIVES MATTER like 100 times for an essay question on his application and only got in because he worked for Hillary Clinton ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightningAce11 04/05/17 2:41:10 AM #33: |
Milkman5 posted...
also is it any worse than the kids who get in through connections or other stupid means. You realize his resume was very very impressive right? --- "I'm an atheist too but still believe in hell. That's where you're headed pal." - Mr_Karate_II ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Alfuh 04/05/17 2:47:32 AM #34: |
If we don't have any examples of a white or asian kid, who isn't rich or connected, achieving the same it's probably affirmative action.
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Medz8606 04/05/17 2:58:27 AM #35: |
shockthemonkey posted...
CE cries affirmative action every time a black persons gets into college. CE cries white privilege --- Hi ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SSj4Wingzero 04/05/17 3:00:27 AM #36: |
There's no doubt she was certainly qualified for all 8 schools to want her
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StealthRock 04/05/17 3:00:54 AM #37: |
Of course since it's a black student it crazy to think that she may just be that smart
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StealthRock 04/05/17 3:06:28 AM #38: |
PiOverlord posted...
Come on, you're telling me that in a white-majority country, that it just so happens all the extremely-qualified candidates are people of color? You could flip that bulllshit around the other way too Are you saying that the only people ever capable of getting into that school are all white?? --- Pokemon is awesome ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Alfuh 04/05/17 3:15:16 AM #39: |
StealthRock posted...
PiOverlord posted...Come on, you're telling me that in a white-majority country, that it just so happens all the extremely-qualified candidates are people of color? No, you can't. Every individual who's made it into all eight Ivy Leagues has been a minority. http://www.businessinsider.com/students-accepted-to-all-8-ivy-league-schools-have-one-specific-thing-in-common-2015-4 To claim that's all just a coincidence with certainty is the height of ignorance. --- So alpha. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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StealthRock 04/05/17 3:54:29 AM #40: |
Alfuh posted...
StealthRock posted...PiOverlord posted...Come on, you're telling me that in a white-majority country, that it just so happens all the extremely-qualified candidates are people of color? Lol yea sure. I'm sure they didn't work their asses off at all. It's just affirmative action. Like that shit is a federal law or something I get it. No black person can ever be better than you. We are just charity cases who cannot ever be elite Got it. --- Pokemon is awesome ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SSj4Wingzero 04/05/17 4:00:51 AM #41: |
StealthRock posted...
Lol yea sure. I'm sure they didn't work their asses off at all. It's just affirmative action. Like that s*** is a federal law or something Did he say that they didn't work their asses off at all? --- Not changing this sig until the Knicks win the NBA Championship! Started...4/23/2011? Or was it 2010? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Alfuh 04/05/17 4:15:37 AM #42: |
StealthRock posted...
Alfuh posted...StealthRock posted...PiOverlord posted...Come on, you're telling me that in a white-majority country, that it just so happens all the extremely-qualified candidates are people of color? Stop posting dumb accusatory shit and address the point. Why were literally all of those folks first generation Americans? Also, I don't compare myself to high schoolers. So there's no discussion of "betters" with me; if you want to make those calls that's your prerogative. --- So alpha. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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toptopmax 04/05/17 4:27:41 AM #43: |
StealthRock posted...
Lol yea sure. I'm sure they didn't work their asses off at all. It's just affirmative action. Like that s*** is a federal law or something You're a crybaby. --- pulp reality ... Copied to Clipboard!
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StealthRock 04/05/17 4:28:29 AM #44: |
Alfuh posted...
StealthRock posted...Alfuh posted...StealthRock posted...PiOverlord posted...Come on, you're telling me that in a white-majority country, that it just so happens all the extremely-qualified candidates are people of color? I make the call based on what I see and What I see every time this happens is people bringing up bullshit like affirmative action. Like a black student can't be good unless a there is some dumbass quota to meet fuck outta here with that bullshit. If you are so non biased, then simply congratulate their brilliance and move on. --- Pokemon is awesome ... Copied to Clipboard!
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StealthRock 04/05/17 4:29:46 AM #45: |
SSj4Wingzero posted...
StealthRock posted...Lol yea sure. I'm sure they didn't work their asses off at all. It's just affirmative action. Like that s*** is a federal law or something No, he said that He's sure there were more qualified whites who didn't get in because I guess Ivy league schools got a quota to fill lololol They must've been turning white students away in droves just to make some bullshit point right?? --- Pokemon is awesome ... Copied to Clipboard!
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StealthRock 04/05/17 4:30:19 AM #46: |
toptopmax posted...
StealthRock posted...Lol yea sure. I'm sure they didn't work their asses off at all. It's just affirmative action. Like that s*** is a federal law or something Ok --- Pokemon is awesome ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Andrew21044 04/05/17 4:38:31 AM #47: |
If she was able to achieve something like this on her own....I see nothing wrong with this.
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Alfuh 04/05/17 5:03:16 AM #49: |
StealthRock posted...
SSj4Wingzero posted...StealthRock posted...Lol yea sure. I'm sure they didn't work their asses off at all. It's just affirmative action. Like that s*** is a federal law or something False bullshit. You're attacking a strawman argument. It was asked that if affirmative action isn't the likely cause, why exactly are all of the people accepted into all eight Ivy Leagues direct descendants of immigrant parents. You have no answer to this, so now you're making up nonsense. You can live in feels land all you want, but everyone else isn't obligated to be braindead with regards to recognizing trends. And doing so doesn't make them a bigot. Baseless slander is no substitute for an argument. --- So alpha. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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parabola_master 04/05/17 5:15:44 AM #50: |
These posts are silly. If she can get accepted into one of the top 3, she can likely get accepted into most of the others. Like, getting into all 8 isn't hard that far off when you're already Harvard or Yale material. Most students just don't apply to all of them (costs too much, takes too long, etc.)
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Axiom 04/05/17 5:17:48 AM #51: |
Certain CEmen sure like to whine about minorities getting into college
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