Current Events > Black girl accepted to 8 Ivy League schools. Affirmative Action or brilliance?

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Capn Circus
04/06/17 10:00:57 PM
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kewldude475 posted...
Capn Circus posted...
kewldude475 posted...
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kewldude475 posted...
I'm gonna take a wild guess and say she got straight A's.


So does pretty much everyone applying to an Ivy League school.


Meaning that she has that, on top of all her other qualifications, making her a fine candidate indeed. 2+2 = 4.


Everyone else has other qualifications as well.


And they'll get in if theirs equal or exceed hers, and they may not have even applied to all of those schools, many students just have one school they're dead set on and a couple of fallbacks. If not, they'll be the ones complaining.


No, not because of Affirmative Action. The Universities are required to have a certain number of minorities and they will go to great lengths to specifically recruit them and seek them out.

These actions inherently lead to non-minority students not getting accepted into the University.

I'm not saying she shouldn't attend an Ivy League. Reread the topic.
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TheVipaGTS
04/06/17 10:04:21 PM
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So then what are you complaining about and why are you using her as the example for your opinion if that isn't what you're saying?
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TheVipaGTS
04/06/17 10:10:55 PM
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"Hey is this affirmative action"

No I don't think it is. Why would you just assume that.

"Just look at the facts man! It's likely AA! Can you admit that?"

No why would I admit that. She could have gotten in on her merits. Why assume she isn't qualified?

"I'm not saying she didn't get in on merits!"

But you're arguing on the side of it being AA

"Just look at the facts!"

This topic....
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3rd_Best_Master
04/06/17 10:20:06 PM
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http://www.nola.com/education/index.ssf/2017/04/quadruplets_college_yale_harva.html

All 4 black quadruplet siblings get into Harvard and Yale. TC be getting saltier as we speak.
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Capn Circus
04/06/17 10:22:45 PM
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kewldude475 posted...
The topic title asks if she got in because of brilliance or AA. Based on her qualifications, she seems to be quite brilliant. At the very least you can admit that she seems to be a brilliantly hard worker and brilliantly ambitious, and deserves her acceptance into the schools regardless.


Sort of.. the topic title asks if her getting admitted into all eight Ivy League schools had something to do with AA.

And of course I can admit she probably deserves her place in one, as I've mentioned before.

Saying she deserves to be admitted into (an) Ivy League school is simply not what the topic was about or asking. Nor could anyone provide counter facts or adequate arguments to dispute the poll assumptions.
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Capn Circus
04/06/17 10:29:52 PM
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I'm sure all or most of the ones still arguing with me agree with Affirmative Action. Viper specifically wouldn't even touch the issue of AA.

That's fine---we all know AA exists. I just think its sort of silly to 1) recognize AA's existence, 2) support AA, and then 3) deny AA had anything to do with an outcome and exert one is racist for remotely believing so.
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FrisbeeDude
04/06/17 10:30:22 PM
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Remember, on CE, suggesting a minority was admitted into a college or given a job based on their race is a legitimate topic of conversation

Yet suggesting white privilege merely exists in America means you're just a whiny SJW....nice
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3rd_Best_Master
04/06/17 10:38:55 PM
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Capn Circus posted...
That's fine---we all know AA exists. I just think its sort of silly to 1) recognize AA's existence, 2) support AA, and then 3) deny AA had anything to do with an outcome and exert one is racist for remotely believing so.

Prove AA played a factor or shut the fuck up already.
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Bishop9800
04/06/17 10:39:58 PM
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FrisbeeDude posted...
Remember, on CE, suggesting a minority was admitted into a college or given a job based on their race is a legitimate topic of conversation

Yet suggesting white privilege merely exists in America means you're just a whiny SJW....nice

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FrisbeeDude
04/06/17 10:43:55 PM
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No, not because of Affirmative Action. The Universities are required to have a certain number of minorities and they will go to great lengths to specifically recruit them and seek them out.

Source?
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Capn Circus
04/06/17 10:47:05 PM
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3rd_Best_Master posted...
Capn Circus posted...
That's fine---we all know AA exists. I just think its sort of silly to 1) recognize AA's existence, 2) support AA, and then 3) deny AA had anything to do with an outcome and exert one is racist for remotely believing so.

Prove AA played a factor or shut the fuck up already.


Considering the active AA laws and her ethnicity, it's quite foolish to say it didn't play a role. Unless she happened to mark her ethnicity as "White non-Hispanic". Which, we know didn't happen.

I'm receptive for new information. Something that shows the disproportionate trend of minorities being accepted into all eight Ivies is just a coincidence. No one can produce anything. I just keep getting called a hater for stating the obvious
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FrisbeeDude
04/06/17 10:51:06 PM
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Considering the active AA laws
What laws are those? You haven't provided any statutes regarding AA and how colleges implement it


and her ethnicity, it's quite foolish to say it didn't play a role.

It is foolish when then only evidence you have is speculation
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3rd_Best_Master
04/06/17 11:02:03 PM
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Capn Circus posted...
3rd_Best_Master posted...
Capn Circus posted...
That's fine---we all know AA exists. I just think its sort of silly to 1) recognize AA's existence, 2) support AA, and then 3) deny AA had anything to do with an outcome and exert one is racist for remotely believing so.

Prove AA played a factor or shut the fuck up already.


Considering the active AA laws and her ethnicity, it's quite foolish to say it didn't play a role. Unless she happened to mark her ethnicity as "White non-Hispanic". Which, we know didn't happen.

I'm receptive for new information. Something that shows the disproportionate trend of minorities being accepted into all eight Ivies is just a coincidence. No one can produce anything. I just keep getting called a hater for stating the obvious

Which laws are you talking about? Which of these Ivys still practices AA?
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Andrew21044
04/07/17 1:39:15 AM
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I could easily say that maybe her SAT/ACT (it's been years since I've been in high school to know if these are still used) scores were enough for all 8 of the schools to accept her...but I can't say for sure since I don't see anything about her having qualifications or anything similar to support my claim....but aside from that...if she was able to do so on her own without AA being a factor...I see nothing wrong with this. Good for her.
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Kineth
04/07/17 8:04:33 AM
#171:


FrisbeeDude posted...
Remember, on CE, suggesting a minority was admitted into a college or given a job based on their race is a legitimate topic of conversation

Yet suggesting white privilege merely exists in America means you're just a whiny SJW....nice

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darkphoenix181
04/07/17 1:03:01 PM
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I made sister thread for white guy
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StealthRock
04/07/17 6:26:43 PM
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I'm calling you a racist because of your refusal to admit that this girl deserves her achievement. Your choice of words also bring light onto your mindset that you cleary don't think a black person is capable of this. The fact that your first suspicion is affirmative action lets me know how you think

Affirmative action is a collection of laws and policies. It is not one big federal law that comes with Jail time. At most, a company can get sued for a bullshit amount of money. Most times, if they are punished, it is a slap on the wrist at most.

AA is not a strictly enforced policy. Do you really think a school system that prides itself on training the best of the best would admit a dumbass just because she's black?? I Sure as hell know they wouldn't

"It partly shows that she's a good student, hard working, and likely pretty intelligent"

Likely pretty intelligent huh?? lol I suppose maybe she's almost as smart as you. Crazy I know. Hard to believe smart black people exist. Especially when more deserving whites and asians are being neglected

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Nukleen
04/08/17 8:02:52 PM
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Hmm
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Alfuh
04/09/17 8:52:01 AM
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Coming back to gloat.

Another girl got into all eight Ivy League schools this year too. Guess their birth country:

http://afterschool.my/news/72793-2/

But no, it has nothing to do with heritage at all.
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weapon_d00d816
04/09/17 9:11:44 AM
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Probably both.

Universities are all over the idea of a genius minority-race woman.
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myzz7
04/09/17 9:14:45 AM
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have a brother who works at my community college and he regularly sees black guys, with middle of the road GPAs and even with criminal backgrounds, get into the top 20 or so colleges in the usa. acting like AA doesn't exist is fucking stupid.
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foreveraIone
04/09/17 9:23:22 AM
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myzz7 posted...
even with criminal backgrounds, get into the top 20 or so colleges in the usa.

Top 20? There are the ivys, stanford, MIT and a few others. That's bullshit.
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Alfuh
04/09/17 9:25:55 AM
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foreveraIone posted...
myzz7 posted...
even with criminal backgrounds, get into the top 20 or so colleges in the usa.

Top 20? There are the ivys, stanford, MIT and a few others. That's bullshit.

They like rehabilitation stories. Kind of a fuck you to those of us who keep our records clean.
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bretonftw
04/09/17 9:27:56 AM
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I want to post a Youtube link to Johnny Rebel's "Affirmative Action" but I'd get modded
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Mystere
04/09/17 9:30:01 AM
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Imagine struggling for years, losing sleep and everything to be the best that you possibly can be....only to find out you wasted all of that effort since you would've got in on complexion alone.
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Mystere
04/09/17 9:33:57 AM
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Also try to remember the last 100 threads pertaining to colleges and the things that happen there now. They are no longer "institutes for higher learning".

So who gives a shit anymore? At this point, I wouldn't care if the qualification for admission was a number 2 pencil.
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ChromaticAngel
04/09/17 9:38:08 AM
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kewldude475 posted...
http://heavy.com/news/2017/04/ifeoma-white-thorpe-new-jersey-teen-accepted-8-ivy-league-schools-colleges-universities/

Lol @ racists who voted affirmative action. Have you accomplished half of what she's accomplished?


the videos wouldn't load for me, but just reading the text it looks like she didn't really accomplish yet anything except good grades and student government and a little bit of charity work. Which is more than most 17 year old high schoolers, but you made it sound like she has this massive resume of shit that she's done.
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