Board 8 > All-Purpose Wrestling Topic 401: Aleister Black, The Future Of Ring Of Honor!

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VeryInsane
04/02/17 6:05:27 PM
#151:


I don't think a single thing about that match could be topped
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davidponte
04/02/17 6:06:37 PM
#152:


RaidenZeroX posted...
StealThisSheen posted...
I was worked by New Day actually taking all the FF s*** off before they came out. I thought it was them. >_>


I thought the same thing. Masterful misdirection!


I flip flopped multiple times when they came out. I went from "oh, they're entering the match" to "hold on, what if it's the Hardyz" to "nah, there's no way"

And then I marked out.
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Strife2
04/02/17 6:07:38 PM
#153:


Just f***ing amazing
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EmDubyaSee
04/02/17 6:07:39 PM
#154:


NBIceman posted...
EmDubyaSee posted...
NBIceman posted...
But neither one was meant to be the story's conclusion.



THATS THE PROBLEM!!!!


Why even book Supercards anymore?

Shouldn't the logical conclusions ALWAYS happen at Starcade, or November to Remeber, or Bound for Glory, or WK, or Wrestlemania?

No. That hamstrings storytelling. Sometimes they need to go longer than that kind of booking would allow.

NJPW in particular doesn't necessarily look at WK as a year-ending show. Sometimes it's closer to a beginning.


You have a YEAR. Very very VERY rarely should someone get hot like Punk in 11 where you have to do it right then, not wait till Mania or WK.. but that should hardly ever EVER happen. And it doesn't hamstring storytelling if the Bookers aren't clowns.
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RaidenZeroX
04/02/17 6:07:53 PM
#155:


I was in my daughters room watching on my phone while she got into a deep enough sleep for me to sneak out, and I almost yelled with glee.
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Jakyl25
04/02/17 6:08:03 PM
#156:


THE SEVEN DEITIES have smiled upon us!

The PREMONITION has come true!
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davidponte
04/02/17 6:08:38 PM
#157:


The Broken stuff is great, but Jeff Hardy was the greatest thing when I was a kid. I'm so happy right now.
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scarletspeed7
04/02/17 6:09:38 PM
#158:


Lake of Reincarnation in WWE.
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EmDubyaSee
04/02/17 6:10:08 PM
#159:


Oh my god.

Did ANYONE know?

Like, anyone at all?
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Jakyl25
04/02/17 6:10:12 PM
#160:


Now...how does WWE deal with the gimmick?

It would be kind of awkwardly hilarious if they just let them and the fans roll with it but just never officially acknowledge it like they did tonight
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NBIceman
04/02/17 6:10:43 PM
#161:


EmDubyaSee posted...
NBIceman posted...
EmDubyaSee posted...
NBIceman posted...
But neither one was meant to be the story's conclusion.



THATS THE PROBLEM!!!!


Why even book Supercards anymore?

Shouldn't the logical conclusions ALWAYS happen at Starcade, or November to Remeber, or Bound for Glory, or WK, or Wrestlemania?

No. That hamstrings storytelling. Sometimes they need to go longer than that kind of booking would allow.

NJPW in particular doesn't necessarily look at WK as a year-ending show. Sometimes it's closer to a beginning.


You have a YEAR. Very very VERY rarely should someone get hot like Punk in 11 where you have to do it right then, not wait till Mania or WK.. but that should hardly ever EVER happen. And it doesn't hamstring storytelling if the Bookers aren't clowns.

Think about what you're saying. You honestly believe the Okada/Tanahashi story would have been half as meaningful if it didn't take four years to reach its apex?

Like, at the time, everyone thought Okada should have won at WK9 and ended the rivalry there. In retrospect, if that would have happened, it wouldn't have been half as good.

There is nothing, NOTHING, in wrestling that should ever be considered a universal booking rule.
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EmDubyaSee
04/02/17 6:11:02 PM
#162:


I hope that thebHardy's are allowed to go to RoH and NJPW so they can just keep collecting Tag Team Belts.
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EmDubyaSee
04/02/17 6:12:07 PM
#163:


I've meant to ask for a while...

How is anyone a face in this match?

I mean, aren't Cena and Nikki jackasses too...
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Jakyl25
04/02/17 6:12:34 PM
#164:


EmDubyaSee posted...
I hope that thebHardy's are allowed to go to RoH and NJPW so they can just keep collecting Tag Team Belts.


Umm did you just miss this month long reign as ROH tag champs that literally ended last night?
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GANON1025
04/02/17 6:14:25 PM
#165:


It's cool that Miz and Maryse are dressing like FF characters too
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EmDubyaSee
04/02/17 6:14:39 PM
#166:


Jakyl25 posted...
EmDubyaSee posted...
I hope that thebHardy's are allowed to go to RoH and NJPW so they can just keep collecting Tag Team Belts.


Umm did you just miss this month long reign as ROH tag champs that literally ended last night?



Yes, actually I did.

Damn, so close to having the RoH, TNA and WWE belts.
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EmDubyaSee
04/02/17 6:15:10 PM
#167:


GANON1025 posted...
It's cool that Miz and Maryse are dressing like FF characters too



They look more like Mortal Kombat to me.
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EmDubyaSee
04/02/17 6:17:28 PM
#168:


NBIceman posted...
EmDubyaSee posted...
NBIceman posted...
EmDubyaSee posted...
NBIceman posted...
But neither one was meant to be the story's conclusion.



THATS THE PROBLEM!!!!


Why even book Supercards anymore?

Shouldn't the logical conclusions ALWAYS happen at Starcade, or November to Remeber, or Bound for Glory, or WK, or Wrestlemania?

No. That hamstrings storytelling. Sometimes they need to go longer than that kind of booking would allow.

NJPW in particular doesn't necessarily look at WK as a year-ending show. Sometimes it's closer to a beginning.


You have a YEAR. Very very VERY rarely should someone get hot like Punk in 11 where you have to do it right then, not wait till Mania or WK.. but that should hardly ever EVER happen. And it doesn't hamstring storytelling if the Bookers aren't clowns.

Think about what you're saying. You honestly believe the Okada/Tanahashi story would have been half as meaningful if it didn't take four years to reach its apex?

Like, at the time, everyone thought Okada should have won at WK9 and ended the rivalry there. In retrospect, if that would have happened, it wouldn't have been half as good.

There is nothing, NOTHING, in wrestling that should ever be considered a universal booking rule.


We're never gonna agree on this. And I truly feel I'm right... I want you to tell me, WHAT THE f*** IS THE POINT OF A SUPERCARD THEN?!!!! I'll wait. There is no answer if it doesn't (mainly) close storylines.
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Jakyl25
04/02/17 6:17:31 PM
#169:


Well they aren't officially TNA Tag Champs and haven't been for a few weeks now

They just never lost them
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EmDubyaSee
04/02/17 6:18:50 PM
#170:


That long shot made Cena's look unimpressive as hell.

Why wouldn't Dunn have a trailing camera behind him, that would have looked amazing. The camera he chose made it seem like he barely was jogging till the last 6 yards.
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StealThisSheen
04/02/17 6:19:13 PM
#171:


EmDubyaSee posted...
We're never gonna agree on this. And I truly feel I'm right... I want you to tell me, WHAT THE f*** IS THE POINT OF A SUPERCARD THEN?!!!! I'll wait. There is no answer if it doesn't (mainly) close storylines.


To create a big spectacle of a show with big matches

Nowhere does anything say all of those matches have to end storylines
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GANON1025
04/02/17 6:22:17 PM
#172:


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EmDubyaSee
04/02/17 6:22:43 PM
#173:


StealThisSheen posted...
EmDubyaSee posted...
We're never gonna agree on this. And I truly feel I'm right... I want you to tell me, WHAT THE f*** IS THE POINT OF A SUPERCARD THEN?!!!! I'll wait. There is no answer if it doesn't (mainly) close storylines.


To create a big spectacle of a show with big matches

Nowhere does anything say all of those matches have to end storylines


Why are they big if they don't matter?

If it's just a train stop on the way to the real conclusion at Extreme Rules (of god forbid, a random Raw or Smackdown when the rematch clause gets initiated) then what the hell does it matter? Why is it big?
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VeryInsane
04/02/17 6:23:59 PM
#174:


I don't think I've ever seen Miz so over before
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EmDubyaSee
04/02/17 6:25:17 PM
#175:


VeryInsane posted...
I don't think I've ever seen Miz so over before



Yeah, King's a f***ing idiot.

30,000 people are chanting "Miz is awesome" its reverberating throughout the arena and he's like "it's only a few people on the front row"
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Jakyl25
04/02/17 6:25:40 PM
#176:


Just realized a fairly insignificant plot hole but it needs at least a passing explanation

If New Day can add people to matches, why DIDN'T they add themselves?
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EmDubyaSee
04/02/17 6:28:12 PM
#177:


Here we go...
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ScareChan
04/02/17 6:28:25 PM
#178:


Jakyl25 posted...
Just realized a fairly insignificant plot hole but it needs at least a passing explanation

If New Day can add people to matches, why DIDN'T they add themselves?


They said that they had been informed not that they added to it
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EmDubyaSee
04/02/17 6:28:45 PM
#179:


Here we actually go....
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CybrMonkey
04/02/17 6:28:55 PM
#180:


Jakyl25 posted...
Just realized a fairly insignificant plot hole but it needs at least a passing explanation

If New Day can add people to matches, why DIDN'T they add themselves?


I don't know that it was implied that they had the power. They were just making the announcement because they are hosting.
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CeraSeptem
04/02/17 6:29:47 PM
#181:


HeelCena
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EmDubyaSee
04/02/17 6:30:13 PM
#182:


Honestly, the a******s booing....

Even I hate them.
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GANON1025
04/02/17 6:30:16 PM
#183:


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CeraSeptem
04/02/17 6:30:52 PM
#184:


Damn. Not HeelCena
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GANON1025
04/02/17 6:32:30 PM
#185:


"John.................................I'm pregnant"

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RaidenZeroX
04/02/17 6:32:41 PM
#186:


Imagine if he gave her an AA right there and took the ring back.
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EmDubyaSee
04/02/17 6:34:01 PM
#187:


That's the best acting Nikki's done in her entire life...


Like, she had to have obviously known, since the build up to it was all about it, and the whole country talked about it the last 2 months, but if I wasn't 100,000% sure she knew, I would say she legitimately didn't know...
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CeraSeptem
04/02/17 6:34:01 PM
#188:


RaidenZeroX posted...
Imagine if he gave her an AA right there and took the ring back.

That's what I was hoping for
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CybrMonkey
04/02/17 6:34:47 PM
#189:


There are like a million soapy twists they could've done, but since the proposal was the reason the match was booked we were never going to see one :(
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Strife2
04/02/17 6:38:27 PM
#190:


Metallica b****es!
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EmDubyaSee
04/02/17 6:40:43 PM
#191:


EVERY WM entrance he has, I am reminded that I would literally give my entire life's saving to f*** Steph once.... Jesus....
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Jakyl25
04/02/17 6:40:47 PM
#192:


Triple H on that bike looks like a boy trying to look big and mean and tough
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ScareChan
04/02/17 6:41:39 PM
#193:


Network dropped ugh
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Jakyl25
04/02/17 6:42:11 PM
#194:


OH NO HE REVVED IT UP

LOOK OUT SETH HE'S A BADASS

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CybrMonkey
04/02/17 6:43:11 PM
#195:


Jakyl25 posted...
Triple H on that bike looks like a boy trying to look big and mean and tough


Isn't this the entire thesis of that wrestling isn't wrestling video
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Jakyl25
04/02/17 6:43:59 PM
#196:


Yes.

It's still right on the money
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EmDubyaSee
04/02/17 6:44:06 PM
#197:


Why isn't she Stephanie McMahon Helmsley again, by the way? Since they are married in kayfabe.
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EmDubyaSee
04/02/17 6:44:37 PM
#198:


At least they aren't gonna lock up to start it seems.
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Jakyl25
04/02/17 6:44:48 PM
#199:


Okay that was great
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EmDubyaSee
04/02/17 6:45:07 PM
#200:


GOD DAMN IT!!!!

Why wouldn't you take the f***ing fire weapon with you?!!!
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