Board 8 > All-Purpose Wrestling Topic 400: The Ultimate Shill Ride

(+) Yeah! (+)

Well that's good news.

After this one, only six more to go through!
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The only caveat is that a few years later the fan favorite will stop wrestling due to concussions
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Triple H vs Owens vs Zayn triple threat

Book it
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PrivateBiscuit1 posted...

Well that's good news.

After this one, only six more to go through!

I wonder who it would be.
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You won't believe it now, but it's actually Trevor Lee at Mania 40.
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It'll be Gargano ending the show celebrating with Candice.

Not ominous at all
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Cena proposing to nikki at this mania will likely get more mainstream attention than Bryan's win.

Tbh it's 100% fair biggest Cena getting engaged at Mania would be huge.
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And then they can get married at Summerslam

And the reception can get ruined by Jake Roberts and Undertaker

Cena can finally get that Taker match next year!
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I really don't care how good WWE programming becomes, because their way of making programming good is to destroy every other promotion in the world, and that's bad for wrestling.

And by the way, I'd be willing to bet a fair amount of money that Omega is not going to WWE next year.
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The Orton/Wyatt match is a really weird thing for me because I realized that even though I like the story quite a bit and am a decently big fan of both guys, I'm dreading the match, and not because I expect it to be bad. It's because Orton losing would be really weird, but at the same time if Bray loses it basically kills the character's credibility forever for me. It's going to be a really unsatisfying end no matter what to me.
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NBIceman posted...

I really don't care how good WWE programming becomes, because their way of making programming good is to destroy every other promotion in the world, and that's bad for wrestling.

And by the way, I'd be willing to bet a fair amount of money that Omega is not going to WWE next year.

NJPW is f***ing pissed and ready to fight. I imagine Omega can get a very nice salary bump if he wants to stick around with them.
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Guys


Guys


what is roman beats Taker


and then Brock beats Goldberg


and then Roman beats Brock on the same night
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I wouldn't mind that. It's like ripping the band-aid off. And then we can get Nakamura vs. Lesnar again.
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ScareChan posted...

Guys


Guys


what is roman beats Taker


and then Brock beats Goldberg


and then Roman beats Brock on the same night

Is he face or heel at this point?

If Face, huge lol why does this company hate their loyal fans?

If Heel, I dig it.
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Panthera posted...

The Orton/Wyatt match is a really weird thing for me because I realized that even though I like the story quite a bit and am a decently big fan of both guys, I'm dreading the match, and not because I expect it to be bad. It's because Orton losing would be really weird, but at the same time if Bray loses it basically kills the character's credibility forever for me. It's going to be a really unsatisfying end no matter what to me.

You have to have one force lose to end a story. Sorry
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Seems like Panthera's statement is why WWE sticks to 50-50 booking.
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Other way around. If WWE didn't do so much 50-50 booking, the Orton/Wyatt outcome wouldn't carry the same hangup because Bray could absorb the loss a lot easier.
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Like I said earlier, I really don't think Bray should "absorb" this loss. It should send him into hiatus and then a surprise return down the line with a new agenda/outlook on his character.
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Asuka is a monster that WWE can't handle though. Like, if you booked her like she is booked now, WWE would be at a loss. Charlotte is the 50/50 booking queen, but Asuka would be so terrible if she was booked like Charlotte. But if you have an unbeatable queen on a weekly show where she has to have consistent opponents over a long period of time and only like two possible opponents in the pool... she's done.

Goldberg could never happen in modern WWE.
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scarletspeed7 posted...

Goldberg could never happen in modern WWE.

How ironic
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It's ironic but also sad.
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Jakyl25 posted...

Like I said earlier, I really don't think Bray should "absorb" this loss. It should send him into hiatus and then a surprise return down the line with a new agenda/outlook on his character.

My point was more that if not for the way he's been booked for the past few years, his current character would be working just fine and we wouldn't have to have this discussion in the first place.
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If they didn't have everyone face off every five seconds, it wouldn't be a problem. We had two matches recently that shocked me: Reigns v. Mahal, and Cena v. f***ING FANDANGO!

As obvious results as those were, that's how they should be booking on a weekly basis. It would save the matches that matter for the times that actually matter. How many times did Reigns and Rollins face Owens and Jericho during the fall and winter? How many times has Nia faced Bayley? It was goddamn absurd. But WWE somehow managed to keep Reigns and Cena away from quality opponents for a week or two, making some actual fresh matchups.

If you aren't going to Goldberg/Lesnar "They only fight on PPV aka f*** you full-time guys,"" they could at least run some uneven matchups to switch things around. I wouldn't mind Owens v. Enzo or whatever.

What was that Incredibles quote? "Once everyone is special, no one will be." WWE has got to break that soon. 50-50 is their own doomsday device.
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Jakyl25 posted...

Panthera posted...

The Orton/Wyatt match is a really weird thing for me because I realized that even though I like the story quite a bit and am a decently big fan of both guys, I'm dreading the match, and not because I expect it to be bad. It's because Orton losing would be really weird, but at the same time if Bray loses it basically kills the character's credibility forever for me. It's going to be a really unsatisfying end no matter what to me.

You have to have one force lose to end a story. Sorry

No s*** sherlock

The problem is that Orton losing kind of undoes the whole dedicating months to finally take down the Wyatts angle, but since the Wyatts have never been very relevant, Bray doing his whole more powerful than ever before routine means that if he loses he's basically impossible to take seriously as a main eventer ever again. It looks kind of derpy for whoever loses, especially Bray. Hence why I like the story, but the way it played out has meant that the outcome is kind of bad no matter what. They probably shouldn't have had Bray claiming to be Abigail's host thing now and saved it for when he leaves and comes back as you suggest.
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I mean

you don't HAVE to have one lose at the end

Double Count Out

Next Tuesday Harper is inserted into the match and wins on Smackdown
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scarletspeed7 posted...

I mean

you don't HAVE to have one lose at the end

Double Count Out

No. Nonononononono.
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Oh, it's happening now.

It's too late. I saw it. I said it. It's out there.
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scarletspeed7 posted...

I mean

you don't HAVE to have one lose at the end

Double Count Out

Next Tuesday Harper is inserted into the match and wins on Smackdown

Yeah that's a great idzzzzzzzzztttt malfunction malfunction brain has stopped responding
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Panthera posted...

Jakyl25 posted...

Panthera posted...

The Orton/Wyatt match is a really weird thing for me because I realized that even though I like the story quite a bit and am a decently big fan of both guys, I'm dreading the match, and not because I expect it to be bad. It's because Orton losing would be really weird, but at the same time if Bray loses it basically kills the character's credibility forever for me. It's going to be a really unsatisfying end no matter what to me.

You have to have one force lose to end a story. Sorry

No s*** sherlock

The problem is that Orton losing kind of undoes the whole dedicating months to finally take down the Wyatts angle, but since the Wyatts have never been very relevant, Bray doing his whole more powerful than ever before routine means that if he loses he's basically impossible to take seriously as a main eventer ever again. It looks kind of derpy for whoever loses, especially Bray. Hence why I like the story, but the way it played out has meant that the outcome is kind of bad no matter what. They probably shouldn't have had Bray claiming to be Abigail's host thing now and saved it for when he leaves and comes back as you suggest.

Seems like you're looking at it completely the wrong way though. Surely the takeaway there is that these two forces have been built up, and from the way the story has played out so far there's serious doubt as to who will win. And that the villain has come up with a way to counteract the hero's big move, meaning he's a strong and dangerous opponent for the hero.

It just feels a bit like a glass half-empty approach. Yes, one of them has to lose. But that's a satisfying story. I sincerely doubt that Bray losing at WM will make you "lose faith in him forever". I really don't think there's a point where any wrestler - especially one as good as Wyatt - is truly doomed, and if such a point exists, Wyatt losing the WWE title at Wrestlemania to a top face is certainly not it. If they switched him to Raw and did a storyline where he got "imbued with a new power" and took over the entire show and beat the f*** out of everyone and was booked like a monster and had the full family back, I'm fairly sure Bray could sell that and get you invested again.

Obviously a loss hurts him - almost any pinfall loss does - but it's nothing that can't be fixed. I agree though that at some point soon I'd like to see him win one of these big, top feuds. I think Bryan is the only big feud he has ever won. Maybe Jericho if you want to count that. I really do want a months-long "Wyatts take over the show" angle someday.
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The problem is that they've basically blown the biggest thing he can do. If he thinks he's channeling his mentor/prophet/god/whatever and still loses, it's pretty hard to buy the character not just giving up entirely because his whole world view just got definitely proven to be wrong. Like sure I'd still like him as a performer, but the Bray Wyatt character is basically relegated to generic midcarder from that point. I don't know how Bray can ever look like a credible main eventer if "absorbs his goddess" isn't enough to let him win
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i'm confused, why does it make sense for Orton to win? so far it seems pretty clear that Bray should. Orton's been plotting this entire time, waiting for his time to strike, but along the way he messed up and loses the match as a result.
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When there's a huge five month long story where the face tries to overcome the big bad heel, the face always wins. Brays whole shtick the past two weeks is almost certainly just there to make it less obvious. Even though I agree it makes sense logically that Orton f***ed up and will lose, that's not how these stories tend to work
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It makes sense for Wyatt to defend because Orton made him "more powerful than ever." If you want Orton to win have him win next ppv but this first one should go to Wyatt.
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I feel like they need more past Smackdown Undertakers than anything. Someone who isnt always shown but is always around
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Wyatt and Lesnar both winning at Mania? Given that I assume Triple H beats Rollins.

You would then HAVE to put Cena in the main event.
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I had
Reigns > Taker
Lesnar > Goldberg
Wyatt > Orton
Rollins > HHH
Styles > Shane
Cena and Nikki > Miz and Maryse
Braun wins Armbar
Naomi or Asuka depending on which one is there Smackdown Women's chanpionship
Bayley retains
Enzo and Cass win tag titles
Usos defend
Aries > Neville

If there are any other matches they are not top of mind.
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Can't see Triple H losing a non-main event match to Not-Taker.

He's got the perfect excuse to win this one too.
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In terms of the meta-politics, Orton might have been gifted the match for the Lesnar incident but not a win. So there's a chance that Orton's build up is for nothing.
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Well I guess big show didn't win at mania 25, he only got that shot to makeup for the mayweather feud
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eaedwards6400 posted...

Reigns > Taker
Lesnar > Goldberg
Wyatt > Orton
Rollins > HHH
Styles > Shane
Cena and Nikki > Miz and Maryse
Braun wins Armbar
Naomi or Asuka depending on which one is there Smackdown Women's chanpionship
Bayley retains
Enzo and Cass win tag titles
Usos defend
Aries > Neville

Owens > Jericho
Corbin > Ambrose

No word yet on whether the Usos defend the belts at WrestleMania or just appear in the Armbar instead
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I agree with both of those.
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Guys, Oli from WrestleTalk just said my comment on one of his vids was quote: "Top comment".

I'm living a charmed life.
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wXw's 16 Carat Gold is going to give the G1 and BOLA a legit run for their money as the best tournament of 2017. Europe is really doing great things these days.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9UKtgzjyZ0
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I tried to be interested in this, but Southpaw Wrestling is too fresh in my mind and much better.
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https://youtu.be/lI7_W5FVuyY

I want angle back full time
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iiaattgg posted...

I want angle to die

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Why?
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I don't want to see Stephanie physically and verbally kick Angle in the nuts every week on Raw
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He can put her in the an-cole lock
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