Board 8 > Just saw he Beauty and the Beast remake (spoilers)

(+) Yeah! (+)

It's inferior in every way to the original. All of the songs are worse, the voice acting is worse for literally every character except Chip, they added a new song that's bad and messes up the flow, and they added a subplot where Gaston tries to kill Belle's dad. Worst part is the Gaston song, which is terribly sung and has Le Fou bribe everyone to sing for Gaston instead of the villagers just loving him.
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can it be spoilers if it's pretty much the same story
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I liked it :\
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Glad I chose to see Belko Experiment instead
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ninkendo posted...

can it be spoilers if it's pretty much the same story

Very true..

Forceful_Dragon posted...

I liked it :\

Did you like it more than the original?
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It was very good.
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The thing that put me off the remake is that Emma Watson is apparently badly autotuned
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Eddv posted...

The thing that put me off the remake is that Emma Watson is apparently badly autotuned

I'd say they're all worse than the originals at the best least, but Beast is the worst of them. It's most noticeable with Lumierre, who sounds terrible when singing as well, but not quite as bad.
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hows dat emma watson tho
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CoolCly posted...

hows dat emma watson tho

If you mean in looks, she's good. Singing she's not the worst, but she's still bad.
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well good news.
for the upcoming live action Mulan movie, there will be no songs so you don't need to worry about auto-tune anymore!
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but how will they make a man?
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CoolCly posted...

but how will they make a man?

with a miserable pile of secrets I guess
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Did you like it more than the original?

do you think not liking it as much as the original automatically makes it all bad?
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Screw you Ever More was fantastic
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Punnyz posted...

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Did you like it more than the original?

do you think not liking it as much as the original automatically makes it all bad?

Yeah im confused about this as well. B&tB is an A+ movie. This remake was maybe an A- for me. Pretty damn enjoyable, I thought.
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Punnyz posted...

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Did you like it more than the original?

do you think not liking it as much as the original automatically makes it all bad?

sounds legit
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Wanglicious posted...

well good news.
for the upcoming live action Mulan movie, there will be no songs so you don't need to worry about auto-tune anymore!

Preorder cancelled.
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Punnyz posted...

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Did you like it more than the original?

do you think not liking it as much as the original automatically makes it all bad?

No, but I don't know how much you like the original.
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Anagram posted...

It's inferior in every way to the original. All of the songs are worse, the voice acting is worse for literally every character except Chip, they added a new song that's bad and messes up the flow, and they added a subplot where Gaston tries to kill Belle's dad. Worst part is the Gaston song, which is terribly sung and has Le Fou bribe everyone to sing for Gaston instead of the villagers just loving him.

everything in this paragraph does sound bad. then again I thought it looked bad anyway so maybe this is just confirmation bias.
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Wanglicious posted...

well good news.
for the upcoming live action Mulan movie, there will be no songs so you don't need to worry about auto-tune anymore!

Please tell me this is a joke.
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Anyway...

Is the Stockholm Syndrome as obvious as in the original?
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redrocket_pub posted...

Wanglicious posted...

well good news.
for the upcoming live action Mulan movie, there will be no songs so you don't need to worry about auto-tune anymore!

Please tell me this is a joke.

https://www.moviefone.com/2017/03/17/mulan-exclusive-niki-caro/
Earlier today I spoke to Niki Caro, the amazingly talented director of "Whale Rider," "McFarland, USA," and the upcoming, incredibly moving "The Zookeeper's Wife" (we'll have more on that in a bit), and at the end of the conversation I brought up her upcoming remake of Disney's animated classic "Mulan." And she gave us exclusive details about her live-action version of the movie and why you should very much look forward to the movie.

(...)

Moviefone: But from what I understand, no songs?

Niki Caro:
Yes, from what I understand, no songs right now, much to the horror of my children.


no getting down to business.
all you wanted was a movie worth paying for and you may need to reflect on that.
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redrocket_pub posted...

Anyway...

Is the Stockholm Syndrome as obvious as in the original?

They made her a little more active, but I'd say it's about the same.

Forgot to mention that Emma Watson just stares and smiles blankly during the Be Our Guest song, not reacting to anything happening in front of her.
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I don't know if I would say "smiles blankly", but yeah I would agree that her reactions in any of the heavily animated sections don't always accurately match what is happening around her.
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I thought it was not really her fault but more the director's, Belle acted really weirdly to the dining room's teasing.
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I saw it tonight too. Wasn't good or bad, was just "meh." This was such a straight, at many times shot-for-shot remake of the original that I don't really know what the point was in making it other than as a money-grab. Never would have expected The Jungle Book to become the gold standard for this line of movies, but here we are.
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Raka_Putra posted...

I thought it was not really her fault but more the director's, Belle acted really weirdly to the dining room's teasing.

Yeah, like in the star wars prequels you typically blame direction when the actors have poor interaction for green screen sequences.

They also went quite a bit overboard on the animation any time the dresser was doing anything, what with the infinity number of ribbons and bolts of cloth.


But still, these are minors gripes, and watching this movie had me humming the songs all day.



I also appreciated being given more insight into belle and beast's individual backstories. It wasn't overbearing, but it gave a bit more context to the characters and gave them more of a reason to relate to each other than simply being stuck in the same place together.


(edit: that feel when someone posts after the post you were responding to so you have to edit in the quote)
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Also, I should mention the new Beast song, which totally breaks the mood. Beast goes from singing about how Belle will always be part of him to being despondent and not caring about Gaston attacking in one scene. I guess they wanted him to have a song of his own, but it's so weird and out of place.
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Again

Screw you Ever More was fantastic

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Asagi_Igawa posted...

Screw you, the film was fantastic

Fixed
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I was never too attached to the original and I loved the remake. The songs were the best part. I'd say I enjoyed it more than the original, which was never one of my favorites as a kid.
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BetrayedTangy posted...

Glad I chose to see Belko Experiment instead

I've heard that was even worse.

Glad I chose to see Get Out instead.

Have not seen yet, reactions here are about what i expected.

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Also, I should mention the new Beast song, which totally breaks the mood. Beast goes from singing about how Belle will always be part of him to being despondent and not caring about Gaston attacking in one scene. I guess they wanted him to have a song of his own, but it's so weird and out of place.

It's because he saw the mob and figured it meant Belle was never coming back. Like maybe she'd told the townspeople how she was held prisoner and they set out to get vengeance or something.

As for the part about Gaston trying to kill Belle's dad, I remember thinking earlier on that Gaston wasn't really coming off like a true villain in this version, so much as just an obnoxious but still kinda likable jerk. The father thing cleared that right up.
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redrocket_pub posted...

Anyway...

Is the Stockholm Syndrome as obvious as in the original?

No, he did more to earn her affection. He was really nothing but kind and gentle with her after they saved each others lives from the wolves. There was a scene where they left the castle together through a magic book, where he helped her learn the truth of her mother's death. Plus they made a point of showing that her village "library" was just a row of like seven books on a desk, so the Beast giving her his ginormous library certainly wowed her. There were multiple conversations where they bonded over books, lol.
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mnkboy907 posted...

As for the part about Gaston trying to kill Belle's dad, I remember thinking earlier on that Gaston wasn't really coming off like a true villain in this version, so much as just an obnoxious but still kinda likable jerk. The father thing cleared that right up.

I was thinking this same thing, but the cartoon version had Gaston act basically the same up to the attempted murder and still come off as the villain, so I think that's another problem of this remake.
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I think it's just easier to make someone clearly look like a villain when it's a cartoon.
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I liked that he wasn't as villainous as first. It showed his descent into madness, into showing that he was the real beast. It was good development.

Just saw the movie. It was dope.
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Gaston not seeming villainous for most of the time is what makes him so great in the original. In any other classic fairy tale like this, Gaston would be the town hero who kills the beast at the end to save the girl. That heroism being flipped on its head is always what made Gaston a cool character to me. The subplot with Belle's father here kind of ruined that and just made him an evil dick to me. Not my favorite Disney villain but he's actually up there! (Frollo's the best, btw.)
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I really enjoyed it
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Sounds like they needed a post credits scene where Aqua saves Belle from some Heartless
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