Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 78: Also to experience a 78% decrease in budget.

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DeathChicken 03/17/17 4:08:38 PM #151:	Iraq barely even launched its planes in the first Gulf War. Saddam knew perfectly well they weren't going to depose him, so he went "Why risk my nice planes" and hid most of them in Iran. After which they kept the things because Saddam was stupid, but yeah. --- We are thought, and reality, and concept, and the unimaginable <cite>DeathChicken posted [p:875303621] in Politics C... [t:75118072]...</cite> <quote> Iraq barely even launched its planes in the first Gulf War. Saddam knew perfectly well they weren't going to depose him, so he went "Why risk my nice planes" and hid most of them in Iran. After which they kept the things because Saddam was stupid, but yeah.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BowserCuffs 03/17/17 4:12:28 PM #152:	Seph, our military budget is literally the most inefficient budget. It's being wasted on pointless things, expenditures that don't matter. You want to cut inefficient spending, cut the military budget. the fact that you think having the biggest military penis is more important than making sure people get the basic human necessities is literally horrendous. What's the point of a military when the people they're supposed to be defending have all starved to death? What is a nation without citizens? --- Everyone's best is different. You can't always be the best, but you can always do your best. <cite>BowserCuffs posted [p:875303830] in Politics C... [t:75118072]...</cite> <quote>Seph, our military budget is literally the most inefficient budget. It's being wasted on pointless things, expenditures that don't matter. You want to cut inefficient spending, cut the military budget. the fact that you think having the biggest military penis is more important than making sure people get the basic human necessities is literally horrendous. What's the point of a military when the people they're supposed to be defending have all starved to death? What is a nation without citizens?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 03/17/17 4:17:30 PM #153:	I would rather have 100% health care, housing, and food stamp coverage for every American at the cost of a 0.1% annual chance we get invaded by another nation's military, than our current health care/housing/welfare setup with a 0% chance of military invasion. --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:875304124] in Politics C... [t:75118072]...</cite> <quote>I would rather have 100% health care, housing, and food stamp coverage for every American at the cost of a 0.1% annual chance we get invaded by another nation's military, than our current health care/housing/welfare setup with a 0% chance of military invasion.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordoftheMorons 03/17/17 5:10:46 PM #154:	I think Seph has a point here tbqh --- Ralliers' determination can't even hold a birthday candle to the blazing flame of DpOblivion's winning spirit! <cite>LordoftheMorons posted [p:875307369] in Politics C... [t:75118072]...</cite> <quote>I think Seph has a point here tbqh</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark Young Link 03/17/17 5:19:09 PM #155:	Do you really think America is in any serious danger of being invaded if we lowered our military budget slightly? I just don't see how. --- http://i.imgur.com/gOGzcN4.gif <cite>Dark Young Link posted [p:875307882] in Politics C... [t:75118072]...</cite> <quote>Do you really think America is in any serious danger of being invaded if we lowered our military budget slightly? I just don't see how.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
On_The_Pence 03/17/17 5:19:23 PM #156:	BowserCuffs posted... What's the point of a military when the people they're supposed to be defending have all starved to death? What is a nation without citizens? Perhaps then we prevent this by ensuring that people don't have to rely on federal programs to eat --- The Nelson Mandela of board 8 SephG <cite>On_The_Pence posted [p:875307896] in Politics C... [t:75118072]...</cite> <quote><cite>BowserCuffs posted...</cite> <quote>What's the point of a military when the people they're supposed to be defending have all starved to death? What is a nation without citizens?</quote> Perhaps then we prevent this by ensuring that people don't have to rely on federal programs to eat</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordoftheMorons 03/17/17 5:21:49 PM #157:	Dark Young Link posted... Do you really think America is in any serious danger of being invaded if we lowered our military budget slightly? I just don't see how. No. I do think that a lot of other places in the world would go to s*** if America abdicated it's global leadership role though, and having a strong military is part of the reason we are the leader of the free world. --- Ralliers' determination can't even hold a birthday candle to the blazing flame of DpOblivion's winning spirit! <cite>LordoftheMorons posted [p:875308015] in Politics C... [t:75118072]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dark Young Link posted...</cite> <quote>Do you really think America is in any serious danger of being invaded if we lowered our military budget slightly? I just don't see how.</quote> No. I do think that a lot of other places in the world would go to s*** if America abdicated it's global leadership role though, and having a strong military is part of the reason we are the leader of the free world.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
On_The_Pence 03/17/17 5:21:51 PM #158:	Jakyl25 posted... I would rather have 100% health care, housing, and food stamp coverage for every American at the cost of a 0.1% annual chance we get invaded by another nation's military, than our current health care/housing/welfare setup with a 0% chance of military invasion. The problem is that you can't simply take a trillion dollars and feed/cover everyone who needs it. That's literally how you ensure mass starvation a la Soviet Ukraine and Mao's China. You know better than this! --- The Nelson Mandela of board 8 SephG <cite>On_The_Pence posted [p:875308016] in Politics C... [t:75118072]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote>I would rather have 100% health care, housing, and food stamp coverage for every American at the cost of a 0.1% annual chance we get invaded by another nation's military, than our current health care/housing/welfare setup with a 0% chance of military invasion.</quote> The problem is that you can't simply take a trillion dollars and feed/cover everyone who needs it. That's literally how you ensure mass starvation a la Soviet Ukraine and Mao's China. You know better than this!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BowserCuffs 03/17/17 5:25:28 PM #159:	On_The_Pence posted... BowserCuffs posted... What's the point of a military when the people they're supposed to be defending have all starved to death? What is a nation without citizens? Perhaps then we prevent this by ensuring that people don't have to rely on federal programs to eat And your suggestion is...? --- Everyone's best is different. You can't always be the best, but you can always do your best. <cite>BowserCuffs posted [p:875308217] in Politics C... [t:75118072]...</cite> <quote><cite>On_The_Pence posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BowserCuffs posted...</cite> <quote>What's the point of a military when the people they're supposed to be defending have all starved to death? What is a nation without citizens?</quote> Perhaps then we prevent this by ensuring that people don't have to rely on federal programs to eat</quote> And your suggestion is...?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paratroopa1 03/17/17 5:26:37 PM #160:	LordoftheMorons posted... I think Seph has a point here tbqh He does, but he's taking it to a logical extreme that doesn't really make sense <cite>Paratroopa1 posted [p:875308279] in Politics C... [t:75118072]...</cite> <quote><cite>LordoftheMorons posted...</cite> <quote>I think Seph has a point here tbqh</quote> He does, but he's taking it to a logical extreme that doesn't really make sense</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
On_The_Pence 03/17/17 5:27:51 PM #161:	BowserCuffs posted... On_The_Pence posted... BowserCuffs posted... What's the point of a military when the people they're supposed to be defending have all starved to death? What is a nation without citizens? Perhaps then we prevent this by ensuring that people don't have to rely on federal programs to eat And your suggestion is...? Mostly private aid followed by robust local support. The current system is working pretty great for a nation of 350 million. --- The Nelson Mandela of board 8 SephG <cite>On_The_Pence posted [p:875308342] in Politics C... [t:75118072]...</cite> <quote> <cite>BowserCuffs posted...</cite> <quote><cite>On_The_Pence posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BowserCuffs posted...</cite> <quote>What's the point of a military when the people they're supposed to be defending have all starved to death? What is a nation without citizens?</quote> Perhaps then we prevent this by ensuring that people don't have to rely on federal programs to eat</quote> And your suggestion is...?</quote> Mostly private aid followed by robust local support. The current system is working pretty great for a nation of 350 million.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
On_The_Pence 03/17/17 5:28:48 PM #162:	Paratroopa1 posted... LordoftheMorons posted... I think Seph has a point here tbqh He does, but he's taking it to a logical extreme that doesn't really make sense It's the only way to get through to people who are literally advocating for Stalinism --- The Nelson Mandela of board 8 SephG <cite>On_The_Pence posted [p:875308389] in Politics C... [t:75118072]...</cite> <quote><cite>Paratroopa1 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LordoftheMorons posted...</cite> <quote>I think Seph has a point here tbqh</quote> He does, but he's taking it to a logical extreme that doesn't really make sense</quote> It's the only way to get through to people who are literally advocating for Stalinism</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 03/17/17 5:28:57 PM #163:	If it's working so well, why do we have these programs? Or better yet, do you believe that if the programs were cut that local support would be able to match the lost funds? --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:875308396] in Politics C... [t:75118072]...</cite> <quote>If it's working so well, why do we have these programs? Or better yet, do you believe that if the programs were cut that local support would be able to match the lost funds?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BowserCuffs 03/17/17 5:29:04 PM #164:	On_The_Pence posted... BowserCuffs posted... On_The_Pence posted... BowserCuffs posted... What's the point of a military when the people they're supposed to be defending have all starved to death? What is a nation without citizens? Perhaps then we prevent this by ensuring that people don't have to rely on federal programs to eat And your suggestion is...? Mostly private aid followed by robust local support. The current system is working pretty great for a nation of 350 million. The federal programs exist precisely because of the failure of private aid and the very-much-not-robust local support. Try again. --- Everyone's best is different. You can't always be the best, but you can always do your best. <cite>BowserCuffs posted [p:875308401] in Politics C... [t:75118072]...</cite> <quote><cite>On_The_Pence posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BowserCuffs posted...</cite> <quote><cite>On_The_Pence posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BowserCuffs posted...</cite> <quote>What's the point of a military when the people they're supposed to be defending have all starved to death? What is a nation without citizens?</quote> Perhaps then we prevent this by ensuring that people don't have to rely on federal programs to eat</quote> And your suggestion is...?</quote> Mostly private aid followed by robust local support. The current system is working pretty great for a nation of 350 million.</quote> The federal programs exist precisely because of the failure of private aid and the very-much-not-robust local support. Try again.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
On_The_Pence 03/17/17 5:30:49 PM #165:	TheRock1525 posted... If it's working so well, why do we have these programs? Or better yet, do you believe that if the programs were cut that local support would be able to match the lost funds? I'm not arguing for or against the Trump cuts, since I don't know the details. But I am willing to bet that many of these will indeed function more efficiently without the federal government's assistance --- The Nelson Mandela of board 8 SephG <cite>On_The_Pence posted [p:875308511] in Politics C... [t:75118072]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote>If it's working so well, why do we have these programs? Or better yet, do you believe that if the programs were cut that local support would be able to match the lost funds?</quote> I'm not arguing for or against the Trump cuts, since I don't know the details. But I am willing to bet that many of these will indeed function more efficiently without the federal government's assistance</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lordloki12 03/17/17 5:32:36 PM #166:	On_The_Pence posted... TheRock1525 posted... If it's working so well, why do we have these programs? Or better yet, do you believe that if the programs were cut that local support would be able to match the lost funds? I'm not arguing for or against the Trump cuts, since I don't know the details. But I am willing to bet that many of these will indeed function more efficiently without the federal government's assistance Perhaps the military should learn to function more efficiently or start relying on robust local support? --- [ 1 ] [ 10 ] [ 7 ] [ 12 ] [ 9 ] [ 19 ] [ 5 ] <cite>lordloki12 posted [p:875308623] in Politics C... [t:75118072]...</cite> <quote><cite>On_The_Pence posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote>If it's working so well, why do we have these programs? Or better yet, do you believe that if the programs were cut that local support would be able to match the lost funds?</quote> I'm not arguing for or against the Trump cuts, since I don't know the details. But I am willing to bet that many of these will indeed function more efficiently without the federal government's assistance</quote> Perhaps the military should learn to function more efficiently or start relying on robust local support?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 03/17/17 5:32:44 PM #167:	On_The_Pence posted... But I am willing to bet that many of these will indeed function more efficiently without the federal government's assistance Efficiency is not the issue. Things like meals on wheels require volunteers more than anything, so they're not losing out on a work force but rather the needed funds to buy the product. Why don't you require the military to work more efficiently? Our military is notorious for bloat and unnecessary purchases and contracts. --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:875308630] in Politics C... [t:75118072]...</cite> <quote><cite>On_The_Pence posted...</cite> <quote>But I am willing to bet that many of these will indeed function more efficiently without the federal government's assistance</quote> Efficiency is not the issue. Things like meals on wheels require volunteers more than anything, so they're not losing out on a work force but rather the needed funds to buy the product. Why don't you require the military to work more efficiently? Our military is notorious for bloat and unnecessary purchases and contracts.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
On_The_Pence 03/17/17 5:32:59 PM #168:	BowserCuffs posted... On_The_Pence posted... BowserCuffs posted... On_The_Pence posted... BowserCuffs posted... What's the point of a military when the people they're supposed to be defending have all starved to death? What is a nation without citizens? Perhaps then we prevent this by ensuring that people don't have to rely on federal programs to eat And your suggestion is...? Mostly private aid followed by robust local support. The current system is working pretty great for a nation of 350 million. The federal programs exist precisely because of the failure of private aid and the very-much-not-robust local support. Try again. Do they though? Or do they exist because elected officials want to say they funded universally beloved programs like meals on wheels. Plenty of charities exist without federal funding. --- The Nelson Mandela of board 8 SephG <cite>On_The_Pence posted [p:875308646] in Politics C... [t:75118072]...</cite> <quote><cite>BowserCuffs posted...</cite> <quote><cite>On_The_Pence posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BowserCuffs posted...</cite> <quote><cite>On_The_Pence posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BowserCuffs posted...</cite> <quote>What's the point of a military when the people they're supposed to be defending have all starved to death? What is a nation without citizens?</quote> Perhaps then we prevent this by ensuring that people don't have to rely on federal programs to eat</quote> And your suggestion is...?</quote> Mostly private aid followed by robust local support. The current system is working pretty great for a nation of 350 million.</quote> The federal programs exist precisely because of the failure of private aid and the very-much-not-robust local support. Try again.</quote> Do they though? Or do they exist because elected officials want to say they funded universally beloved programs like meals on wheels. Plenty of charities exist without federal funding.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 03/17/17 5:33:21 PM #169:	Even Trump himself said the military could operate more efficiently and cut waste. --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:875308669] in Politics C... [t:75118072]...</cite> <quote>Even Trump himself said the military could operate more efficiently and cut waste.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
On_The_Pence 03/17/17 5:33:58 PM #170:	TheRock1525 posted... On_The_Pence posted... But I am willing to bet that many of these will indeed function more efficiently without the federal government's assistance Efficiency is not the issue. Things like meals on wheels require volunteers more than anything, so they're not losing out on a work force but rather the needed funds to buy the product. Why don't you require the military to work more efficiently? Our military is notorious for bloat and unnecessary purchases and contracts. The military should be more efficient. No argument there. --- The Nelson Mandela of board 8 SephG <cite>On_The_Pence posted [p:875308718] in Politics C... [t:75118072]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>On_The_Pence posted...</cite> <quote>But I am willing to bet that many of these will indeed function more efficiently without the federal government's assistance</quote> Efficiency is not the issue. Things like meals on wheels require volunteers more than anything, so they're not losing out on a work force but rather the needed funds to buy the product. Why don't you require the military to work more efficiently? Our military is notorious for bloat and unnecessary purchases and contracts.</quote> The military should be more efficient. No argument there.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr Lasastryke 03/17/17 5:34:10 PM #171:	On_The_Pence posted... The hivemind here is so strong that no one is even questioning that maybe cutting social welfare programs won't actually hurt the poor. Welfare reform in the 90s certainly did not put more people in poverty. so because of this one example, cutting social welfare programs would never hurt the poor? --- Geothermal terpsichorean ejectamenta <cite>Mr Lasastryke posted [p:875308733] in Politics C... [t:75118072]...</cite> <quote> <cite>On_The_Pence posted...</cite> <quote>The hivemind here is so strong that no one is even questioning that maybe cutting social welfare programs won't actually hurt the poor. Welfare reform in the 90s certainly did not put more people in poverty.</quote> so because of this one example, cutting social welfare programs would never hurt the poor?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
On_The_Pence 03/17/17 5:35:27 PM #172:	Mr Lasastryke posted... On_The_Pence posted... The hivemind here is so strong that no one is even questioning that maybe cutting social welfare programs won't actually hurt the poor. Welfare reform in the 90s certainly did not put more people in poverty. so because of this one example, cutting social welfare programs would never hurt the poor? I'm saying it is not a forgone conclusion like many here are implying --- The Nelson Mandela of board 8 SephG <cite>On_The_Pence posted [p:875308805] in Politics C... [t:75118072]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mr Lasastryke posted...</cite> <quote><cite>On_The_Pence posted...</cite> <quote>The hivemind here is so strong that no one is even questioning that maybe cutting social welfare programs won't actually hurt the poor. Welfare reform in the 90s certainly did not put more people in poverty.</quote> so because of this one example, cutting social welfare programs would never hurt the poor?</quote> I'm saying it is not a forgone conclusion like many here are implying</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 03/17/17 5:37:47 PM #173:	Can you at least see how the Trump administration projects the image of callously uncaring? --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:875308939] in Politics C... [t:75118072]...</cite> <quote>Can you at least see how the Trump administration projects the image of callously uncaring?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 03/17/17 5:37:58 PM #174:	Keep in mind when a lot of welfare programs have helped reduce poverty rates. If we had such great and robust charities we'd have had poverty rates closer to nowadays than they were before the introduction of a lot of these programs. --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:875308952] in Politics C... [t:75118072]...</cite> <quote>Keep in mind when a lot of welfare programs have helped reduce poverty rates. If we had such great and robust charities we'd have had poverty rates closer to nowadays than they were before the introduction of a lot of these programs.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
On_The_Pence 03/17/17 5:40:08 PM #175:	Jakyl25 posted... Can you at least see how the Trump administration projects the image of callously uncaring? Well Trump is a terrible president so yes I concur --- The Nelson Mandela of board 8 SephG <cite>On_The_Pence posted [p:875309082] in Politics C... [t:75118072]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote>Can you at least see how the Trump administration projects the image of callously uncaring?</quote> Well Trump is a terrible president so yes I concur</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 03/17/17 5:41:56 PM #176:	Do you think Trump is worse than a Clinton presidency minus the Supreme Court nomination? --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:875309192] in Politics C... [t:75118072]...</cite> <quote>Do you think Trump is worse than a Clinton presidency minus the Supreme Court nomination?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
On_The_Pence 03/17/17 5:42:49 PM #177:	TheRock1525 posted... Keep in mind when a lot of welfare programs have helped reduce poverty rates. If we had such great and robust charities we'd have had poverty rates closer to nowadays than they were before the introduction of a lot of these programs. I'm not suggesting that there is no role of government welfare. I'm merely saying that it's worth looking into how certain programs function before having a knee jerk reaction that Trump is starving old people to death. --- The Nelson Mandela of board 8 SephG <cite>On_The_Pence posted [p:875309240] in Politics C... [t:75118072]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote>Keep in mind when a lot of welfare programs have helped reduce poverty rates. If we had such great and robust charities we'd have had poverty rates closer to nowadays than they were before the introduction of a lot of these programs.</quote> I'm not suggesting that there is no role of government welfare. I'm merely saying that it's worth looking into how certain programs function before having a knee jerk reaction that Trump is starving old people to death.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
On_The_Pence 03/17/17 5:44:54 PM #178:	TheRock1525 posted... Do you think Trump is worse than a Clinton presidency minus the Supreme Court nomination? Hard to tell. Clinton had a much better Congress who was really running much of the show --- The Nelson Mandela of board 8 SephG <cite>On_The_Pence posted [p:875309333] in Politics C... [t:75118072]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote>Do you think Trump is worse than a Clinton presidency minus the Supreme Court nomination?</quote> Hard to tell. Clinton had a much better Congress who was really running much of the show</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Inviso 03/17/17 5:47:49 PM #179:	Jakyl25 posted... Can you at least see how the Republican party projects the image of callously uncaring? FTFY --- Touch fuzzy. Get fuzzier. <cite>Inviso posted [p:875309515] in Politics C... [t:75118072]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote>Can you at least see how the Republican party projects the image of callously uncaring?</quote> FTFY</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 03/17/17 5:51:03 PM #180:	Inviso posted... Jakyl25 posted... Can you at least see how the Republican party projects the image of callously uncaring? FTFY Nah. The Ryan types will spin their s* to try to sell that it's what is best for the people. They only very recently are starting to dip their toes into Trumpish "I'm right, you're wrong, f* you" mindsets --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:875309703] in Politics C... [t:75118072]...</cite> <quote><cite>Inviso posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote>Can you at least see how the Republican party projects the image of callously uncaring?</quote> FTFY</quote> Nah. The Ryan types will spin their s* to try to sell that it's what is best for the people. They only very recently are starting to dip their toes into Trumpish "I'm right, you're wrong, f* you" mindsets</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 03/17/17 5:57:07 PM #181:	On_The_Pence posted... TheRock1525 posted... Do you think Trump is worse than a Clinton presidency minus the Supreme Court nomination? Hard to tell. Clinton had a much better Congress who was really running much of the show I meant a theoretical Clinton presidency. --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:875310065] in Politics C... [t:75118072]...</cite> <quote> <cite>On_The_Pence posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote>Do you think Trump is worse than a Clinton presidency minus the Supreme Court nomination?</quote> Hard to tell. Clinton had a much better Congress who was really running much of the show</quote> I meant a theoretical Clinton presidency.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 03/17/17 5:58:33 PM #182:	Yeah what if they reached a compromise where Trump got to pick the SCOTUS seat but Clinton did everything else --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:875310146] in Politics C... [t:75118072]...</cite> <quote>Yeah what if they reached a compromise where Trump got to pick the SCOTUS seat but Clinton did everything else</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
On_The_Pence 03/17/17 5:59:10 PM #183:	TheRock1525 posted... On_The_Pence posted... TheRock1525 posted... Do you think Trump is worse than a Clinton presidency minus the Supreme Court nomination? Hard to tell. Clinton had a much better Congress who was really running much of the show I meant a theoretical Clinton presidency. Oh. No. Hillary is awful as well. --- The Nelson Mandela of board 8 SephG <cite>On_The_Pence posted [p:875310181] in Politics C... [t:75118072]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>On_The_Pence posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote>Do you think Trump is worse than a Clinton presidency minus the Supreme Court nomination?</quote> Hard to tell. Clinton had a much better Congress who was really running much of the show</quote> I meant a theoretical Clinton presidency.</quote> Oh. No. Hillary is awful as well.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
charmander6000 03/17/17 5:59:35 PM #184:	If Clinton won congress would object to everything and nothing would get done. --- Congrats to DpObliVion for winning the guru. <cite>charmander6000 posted [p:875310210] in Politics C... [t:75118072]...</cite> <quote>If Clinton won congress would object to everything and nothing would get done.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SupremeZero 03/17/17 6:00:05 PM #185:	On_The_Pence posted... TheRock1525 posted... On_The_Pence posted... TheRock1525 posted... Do you think Trump is worse than a Clinton presidency minus the Supreme Court nomination? Hard to tell. Clinton had a much better Congress who was really running much of the show I meant a theoretical Clinton presidency. Oh. No. Hillary is awful as well. Worse than Trump? charmander6000 posted... If Clinton won congress would object to everything and nothing would get done. That actually sounds probably better than this "Everything produced is bad" presidency. --- There's always hope for better things in life. But you can't let anything, friend, lover,God himself,be your hope. You have to be your own hope <cite>SupremeZero posted [p:875310247] in Politics C... [t:75118072]...</cite> <quote><cite>On_The_Pence posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>On_The_Pence posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote>Do you think Trump is worse than a Clinton presidency minus the Supreme Court nomination?</quote> Hard to tell. Clinton had a much better Congress who was really running much of the show</quote> I meant a theoretical Clinton presidency.</quote> Oh. No. Hillary is awful as well.</quote> Worse than Trump? <cite>charmander6000 posted...</cite> <quote>If Clinton won congress would object to everything and nothing would get done.</quote> That actually sounds probably better than this "Everything produced is bad" presidency.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Airship_Canon 03/17/17 6:00:26 PM #186:	On_The_Pence posted... TheRock1525 posted... On_The_Pence posted... But I am willing to bet that many of these will indeed function more efficiently without the federal government's assistance Efficiency is not the issue. Things like meals on wheels require volunteers more than anything, so they're not losing out on a work force but rather the needed funds to buy the product. Why don't you require the military to work more efficiently? Our military is notorious for bloat and unnecessary purchases and contracts. The military should be more efficient. No argument there. Being efficient is secured. If it makes sense, it's not authorized. --- Waifus are not gear adrift! Hooyarr! <cite>Airship_Canon posted [p:875310266] in Politics C... [t:75118072]...</cite> <quote><cite>On_The_Pence posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>On_The_Pence posted...</cite> <quote>But I am willing to bet that many of these will indeed function more efficiently without the federal government's assistance</quote> Efficiency is not the issue. Things like meals on wheels require volunteers more than anything, so they're not losing out on a work force but rather the needed funds to buy the product. Why don't you require the military to work more efficiently? Our military is notorious for bloat and unnecessary purchases and contracts.</quote> The military should be more efficient. No argument there.</quote> Being efficient is secured. If it makes sense, it's not authorized.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 03/17/17 6:00:29 PM #187:	charmander6000 posted... If Clinton won congress would object to everything and nothing would get done. Nothing is currently getting done right now so it'd be the same. Except I buy into the idea that Hillary could absolutely reach across the aisle in ways that Trump can't. --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:875310274] in Politics C... [t:75118072]...</cite> <quote><cite>charmander6000 posted...</cite> <quote>If Clinton won congress would object to everything and nothing would get done.</quote> Nothing is currently getting done right now so it'd be the same. Except I buy into the idea that Hillary could absolutely reach across the aisle in ways that Trump can't.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
On_The_Pence 03/17/17 6:00:36 PM #188:	Jakyl25 posted... Yeah what if they reached a compromise where Trump got to pick the SCOTUS seat but Clinton did everything else I'd do this with pretty much any Dem but Hillary or Bernie --- The Nelson Mandela of board 8 SephG <cite>On_The_Pence posted [p:875310281] in Politics C... [t:75118072]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote>Yeah what if they reached a compromise where Trump got to pick the SCOTUS seat but Clinton did everything else</quote> I'd do this with pretty much any Dem but Hillary or Bernie</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 03/17/17 6:02:15 PM #189:	For what it's worth, Trump's SCOTUS pick is pretty much the LEAST awful thing he's done Who'd have thunk it? --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:875310378] in Politics C... [t:75118072]...</cite> <quote>For what it's worth, Trump's SCOTUS pick is pretty much the LEAST awful thing he's done Who'd have thunk it?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 03/17/17 6:03:01 PM #190:	What makes Hillary a unique brand of awful? --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:875310427] in Politics C... [t:75118072]...</cite> <quote>What makes Hillary a unique brand of awful?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordoftheMorons 03/17/17 7:25:11 PM #191:	More very bad polling for the AHCA: https://twitter.com/aedwardslevy/status/842869188595253248 --- Ralliers' determination can't even hold a birthday candle to the blazing flame of DpOblivion's winning spirit! <cite>LordoftheMorons posted [p:875315240] in Politics C... [t:75118072]...</cite> <quote> More very bad polling for the AHCA: https://twitter.com/aedwardslevy/status/842869188595253248</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 03/17/17 7:46:06 PM #192:	https://twitter.com/rebeccaballhaus/status/842772041623355392 --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:875316354] in Politics C... [t:75118072]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/rebeccaballhaus/status/842772041623355392</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LapisLazuli 03/17/17 7:55:04 PM #193:	Inviso posted... Sephy's logic is literally horrifying. The implication of what he's saying is that WHEN America becomes a tyrannical dictatorship ruthlessly attacking the rest of the world (not if, WHEN), we should always hold the biggest military so no one can stop us. Jesus f*ing Christ. Well he WAS recently suspended for saying he would love for America to nuke a bunch of third world countries he didn't like, his exact logic being, "they can't retaliate, so why not". --- MWC: I've made the stupidest post possible. Ulti: Hold my beer. <cite>LapisLazuli posted [p:875316802] in Politics C... [t:75118072]...</cite> <quote><cite>Inviso posted...</cite> <quote>Sephy's logic is literally horrifying. The implication of what he's saying is that WHEN America becomes a tyrannical dictatorship ruthlessly attacking the rest of the world (not if, WHEN), we should always hold the biggest military so no one can stop us. Jesus f*ing Christ.</quote> Well he WAS recently suspended for saying he would love for America to nuke a bunch of third world countries he didn't like, his exact logic being, "they can't retaliate, so why not".</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr Lasastryke 03/17/17 7:58:07 PM #194:	LapisLazuli posted... Well he WAS recently suspended for saying he would love for America to nuke a bunch of third world countries he didn't like, his exact logic being, "they can't retaliate, so why not". the "reasonable conservative" at it again. --- Geothermal terpsichorean ejectamenta <cite>Mr Lasastryke posted [p:875316955] in Politics C... [t:75118072]...</cite> <quote><cite>LapisLazuli posted...</cite> <quote>Well he WAS recently suspended for saying he would love for America to nuke a bunch of third world countries he didn't like, his exact logic being, "they can't retaliate, so why not".</quote> the "reasonable conservative" at it again.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Not_an_Owl 03/17/17 8:56:31 PM #195:	Mr Lasastryke posted... LapisLazuli posted... Well he WAS recently suspended for saying he would love for America to nuke a bunch of third world countries he didn't like, his exact logic being, "they can't retaliate, so why not". the "reasonable conservative" at it again. I don't think SephG has ever been anything but upfront about being a super-hawkish neocon. --- Besides, marijuana is far more harmful than steroids. - BlitzBomb I headbang to Bruckner. <cite>Not_an_Owl posted [p:875320318] in Politics C... [t:75118072]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mr Lasastryke posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LapisLazuli posted...</cite> <quote>Well he WAS recently suspended for saying he would love for America to nuke a bunch of third world countries he didn't like, his exact logic being, "they can't retaliate, so why not".</quote> the "reasonable conservative" at it again.</quote> I don't think SephG has ever been anything but upfront about being a super-hawkish neocon.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
On_The_Pence 03/17/17 9:05:34 PM #196:	LapisLazuli posted... Inviso posted... Sephy's logic is literally horrifying. The implication of what he's saying is that WHEN America becomes a tyrannical dictatorship ruthlessly attacking the rest of the world (not if, WHEN), we should always hold the biggest military so no one can stop us. Jesus f*ing Christ. Well he WAS recently suspended for saying he would love for America to nuke a bunch of third world countries he didn't like, his exact logic being, "they can't retaliate, so why not". Still not sure how nuking Iran before they can murder millions of people is a fringe POV --- The Nelson Mandela of board 8 SephG <cite>On_The_Pence posted [p:875320838] in Politics C... [t:75118072]...</cite> <quote><cite>LapisLazuli posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Inviso posted...</cite> <quote>Sephy's logic is literally horrifying. The implication of what he's saying is that WHEN America becomes a tyrannical dictatorship ruthlessly attacking the rest of the world (not if, WHEN), we should always hold the biggest military so no one can stop us. Jesus f*ing Christ.</quote> Well he WAS recently suspended for saying he would love for America to nuke a bunch of third world countries he didn't like, his exact logic being, "they can't retaliate, so why not".</quote> Still not sure how nuking Iran before they can murder millions of people is a fringe POV</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LapisLazuli 03/17/17 9:08:51 PM #197:	The quote was you "wouldn't mind nuking a few countries that couldn't fight back ;)", without even a mention of Iran specificaly. Thus the reason you were moderated for "advocating genocide". --- MWC: I've made the stupidest post possible. Ulti: Hold my beer. <cite>LapisLazuli posted [p:875321027] in Politics C... [t:75118072]...</cite> <quote>The quote was you "wouldn't mind nuking a few countries that couldn't fight back ;)", without even a mention of Iran specificaly. Thus the reason you were moderated for "advocating genocide".</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Eddv 03/17/17 9:14:19 PM #198:	TheRock1525 posted... charmander6000 posted... If Clinton won congress would object to everything and nothing would get done. Nothing is currently getting done right now so it'd be the same. Except I buy into the idea that Hillary could absolutely reach across the aisle in ways that Trump can't. Which is sort of funny because Trump prides himself kn being this master if negotiation --- Board 8's Voice of Reason http://i.imgur.com/chXIw06.jpg <cite>Eddv posted [p:875321318] in Politics C... [t:75118072]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>charmander6000 posted...</cite> <quote>If Clinton won congress would object to everything and nothing would get done.</quote> Nothing is currently getting done right now so it'd be the same. Except I buy into the idea that Hillary could absolutely reach across the aisle in ways that Trump can't.</quote> Which is sort of funny because Trump prides himself kn being this master if negotiation</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
On_The_Pence 03/17/17 9:15:10 PM #199:	LapisLazuli posted... The quote was you "wouldn't mind nuking a few countries that couldn't fight back ;)", without even a mention of Iran specificaly. Thus the reason you were moderated for "advocating genocide". This is literally libelous --- The Nelson Mandela of board 8 SephG <cite>On_The_Pence posted [p:875321355] in Politics C... [t:75118072]...</cite> <quote><cite>LapisLazuli posted...</cite> <quote>The quote was you "wouldn't mind nuking a few countries that couldn't fight back ;)", without even a mention of Iran specificaly. Thus the reason you were moderated for "advocating genocide".</quote> This is literally libelous</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LapisLazuli 03/17/17 9:20:13 PM #200:	It was just a couple of weeks ago. Don't know why you'd try and be revisionist about it, nobody's forgotten. The only thing I'm not 100% on is what emote you used, but you used some kind of face emote at the end of that post. --- MWC: I've made the stupidest post possible. Ulti: Hold my beer. <cite>LapisLazuli posted [p:875321617] in Politics C... [t:75118072]...</cite> <quote>It was just a couple of weeks ago. Don't know why you'd try and be revisionist about it, nobody's forgotten. The only thing I'm not 100% on is what emote you used, but you used some kind of face emote at the end of that post.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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