Board 8 > Rumor: New MvC3 edition coming, new characters and balance tweaks

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I'm taking this with a major grain of salt (Uncanny Edition? Really?) but an anonymous Twitter account claims to be leaking info on a new MvC3 release (which Capcom will announce at EVO).

https://twitter.com/#!/uncanny_edition

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Mega Man?

Definitely false.

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I don't believe this for a second. Spencer getting another attack? Psh.

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As I mentioned in the Evo topic, I don't buy it.

I wouldn't be shocked if it were true, but I'm skeptical of his story, and I'd like to think Capcom isn't going to Street Fighter IV this thing.

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From: Rad Link 5 | #006

I'd like to think Capcom isn't going to Street Fighter IV this thing.

You should know better.

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I find it a little bit funny that fighting games are the one genre where everybody hates expansion packs.

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From: Rad Link 5 | #006

I'd like to think Capcom isn't going to Street Fighter IV this thing.

It already has, pretty much. Both MvC3 and SFIV have received one huge, retail-only expansion. SSFIV Arcade Edition was available for download for SSFIV owners for $15, so it's not nearly as bad as plunking down another $40 at the store.

The one thing I found interesting, though, is how much more positive (or less negative) the reaction was to SSFIV's announcement relative to Ultimate. I think it largely had to do with the unexpected stigma of releasing it in the same year as the original game. Ultimate was released exactly nine months after the original MvC3, but both hit in 2011. SSFIV was released 14 months after its original game, obviously in the next year. I guess that made a difference.

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Remakes > patches IMO

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From: Rad Link 5 | #006

I'd like to think Capcom isn't going to Street Fighter IV this thing.

It already has, pretty much. Both MvC3 and SFIV have received one huge, retail-only expansion. SSFIV Arcade Edition was available for download for SSFIV owners for $15, so it's not nearly as bad as plunking down another $40 at the store.

The one thing I found interesting, though, is how much more positive (or less negative) the reaction was to SSFIV's announcement relative to Ultimate. I think it largely had to do with the unexpected stigma of releasing it in the same year as the original game. Ultimate was released exactly nine months after the original MvC3, but both hit in 2011. SSFIV was released 14 months after its original game, obviously in the next year. I guess that made a difference.

On-disc DLC backlash.

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From: SubDeity | #008

I find it a little bit funny that fighting games are the one genre where everybody hates expansion packs.

It's a little different than an expansion pack. Both SSFIV and Ultimate MvC3 are retail games. Sure, they carried a reduced price tag at launch, but they still essentially forced fans to re-purchase the game they already had in order to get the new stuff. Capcom has been perpetuating this practice with Street Fighter since the early 90s so it's no big shock, but many fans think this is ONE area where the DLC era should benefit them.

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From: Mega Mana | #011

On-disc DLC backlash.

Jill and Shuma were on the disc, but were any of the Ultimate characters? I didn't think so...

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From: PartOfYourWorld | #013
From: Mega Mana | #011

On-disc DLC backlash.

Jill and Shuma were on the disc, but were any of the Ultimate characters? I didn't think so...
Well, I think he's talking about Capcom fighters in general, like SFxT.

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Jill and Shuma were incomplete on the disc.

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From: PartOfYourWorld | #009

It already has, pretty much. Both MvC3 and SFIV have received one huge, retail-only expansion. SSFIV Arcade Edition was available for download for SSFIV owners for $15, so it's not nearly as bad as plunking down another $40 at the store.

That's what I had in mind. This rumor is that it'd be a $15 download for UMvC3 owners, so it'd be an exact repeat of what happened there.

Which, by the way, is part of why I doubt this. It seems too much like what happened with Street Fighter IV. Downloadable rebalance/expansion with four new characters. Unless this is their new business strategy.

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Mega man in the third version? Ah, so the screw DLC they'll buy the damn game strategy. Well done capcom, I knew you could do it.

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If this is true there is literally no defending Capcom anymore.

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I'm actually kind of fine with this.

But I may just be biased because I want them PYM PARTICLES IN MY MARVEL VS CAPCOM.

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PartOfYourWorld posted...


The one thing I found interesting, though, is how much more positive (or less negative) the reaction was to SSFIV's announcement relative to Ultimate. I think it largely had to do with the unexpected stigma of releasing it in the same year as the original game. Ultimate was released exactly nine months after the original MvC3, but both hit in 2011. SSFIV was released 14 months after its original game, obviously in the next year. I guess that made a difference.

SF4 was the game that broke Capcom out of it's fighting game drought, and was low budget (just look at the last Capcom fighter released, Fighting Jam.) so people were more accepting that the game could be improved since SF4 was the game that made the money to convince Capcom's higher ups that fighting games weren't dead so a super version was reasonable. By the time MvC3 came out Capcom's fighting game staff had huge budgets so UMvC3 didn't need to be made when they clearly have the money to make a complete game now.

Capcom went from throwing bones to milking the teat till it's bruised in 4 years.

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seriously though

if its not FREE, then yea, f*** capcom

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From: Punnyz | #102

if its not FREE

XMFD hardest I've laughed all night

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Actually, it hasn't been a year since UMvC3, has it?

Hmm.

See, the thing with this is that I understand why they're doing this. Statistically, more people will purchase DLC the sooner it comes out after a game does. That's just how it works, and I can't fault them for that strategy, as s***ty as it is.

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It's fake. No way. Megaman has 40 colors? Unlock Servebot by completing "survival" mode? And sales of Ultimate landed where exactly? No way is this true. Love the game and all but I don't think we'll see anything more for it.

Helba QotD posted...

And sales of Ultimate landed where exactly?

Didn't it still outsell pretty much every fighter that wasn't their own or Mortal Kombat?

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So apparently Niitsuma already tweeted tonight that this is a hoax

could be trying to save face before Friday but everything we've heard suggests they're actually done with Marvel 3

Yes, but they expected it to sell better than it actually did

From: WazzupGenius00 | #026

So apparently Niitsuma already tweeted tonight that this is a hoax

could be trying to save face before Friday but everything we've heard suggests they're actually done with Marvel 3

They're not. They still have that balance patch, the leap from that to one final expansion ain't that huge.

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It's announced.

People ask why they lied.

"We didn't lie. That was a hoax.

We'd never put Mega Man in it."

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From: StealThisSheen | #030

Friday comes.

It's announced.

People ask why they lied.

"We didn't lie. That was a hoax.

We'd never put Mega Man in it."

I would applaud if they did that. Mega Man fans are up there with tabletop grognards for most toxic fanbases ever at this point.

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Even if they are working on an expansion, almost all of the stuff being said about the new version reeks of absolute bull**** and is obviously just a hoax.

Could they be working on a new version? Who knows.

but that twitter account is lies

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KanzarisKelshen posted...

From: WazzupGenius00 | #026

So apparently Niitsuma already tweeted tonight that this is a hoax

could be trying to save face before Friday but everything we've heard suggests they're actually done with Marvel 3

They're not. They still have that balance patch, the leap from that to one final expansion ain't that huge.

what balance patch?

And uh yeah the leap from "editing a few variables" to "adding entirely new characters, moves, and modes" is pretty big

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KanzarisKelshen posted...

I would applaud if they did that. Mega Man fans are up there with tabletop grognards for most toxic fanbases ever at this point.

Can you really blame them? If it's not his games getting canceled, it's him being snubbed out of games he so easily fits into.

And then when he's finally put in one

They get John Goodman.

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KanzarisKelshen posted...

From: WazzupGenius00 | #026

So apparently Niitsuma already tweeted tonight that this is a hoax

could be trying to save face before Friday but everything we've heard suggests they're actually done with Marvel 3

They're not. They still have that balance patch, the leap from that to one final expansion ain't that huge.

what balance patch?

And uh yeah the leap from "editing a few variables" to "adding entirely new characters, moves, and modes" is pretty big

No, it absolutely is not. You badly, badly underestimate how much work editing 'a few variables' is in a fighting game. Do I need to point you to the humongous number of animations used per character, for instance?

Also, the balance patch is something Niitsuma confirmed is being worked on. He said 'not coming this year' before, but things can change with a bigger crew.

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From: KanzarisKelshen | #031

Mega Man fans are up there with tabletop grognards for most toxic fanbases ever at this point.

People sure like tossing around that "toxic fanbase" stuff to dismiss complaints against companies they like lately.

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KanzarisKelshen posted...

I would applaud if they did that. Mega Man fans are up there with tabletop grognards for most toxic fanbases ever at this point.

Can you really blame them? If it's not his games getting canceled, it's him being snubbed out of games he so easily fits into.

And then when he's finally put in one

They get John Goodman.

Yes, I can. I remember that 'Megaman Anniversary soundtrack' topic and the insufferable, super whiny, incredibly entitled *****ing about getting robbed (when the price was a steal), about no new game (when it was an obvious indicator that they remember the Blue Bomber exists) and every other stupid thing you could possibly think of. That fanbase is toxic, and as much as I like MM games, I would be happy if no more came out if it means people SO insufferable continue to get trolled. They deserve it.

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From: KanzarisKelshen | #035

No, it absolutely is not.

It is absolutely nothing compared to adding new characters, moves, and modes.

It's like hanging a picture on a wall compared to building four walls.

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KanzarisKelshen posted...

Yes, I can. I remember that 'Megaman Anniversary soundtrack' topic and the insufferable, super whiny, incredibly entitled *****ing about getting robbed (when the price was a steal), about no new game (when it was an obvious indicator that they remember the Blue Bomber exists) and every other stupid thing you could possibly think of. That fanbase is toxic, and as much as I like MM games, I would be happy if no more came out if it means people SO insufferable continue to get trolled. They deserve it.

To be perfectly honest, you sound just as bad, if not worse.

"YOU GOT A SOUNDTRACK, F*** YOU STOP ASKING FOR A NEW GAME YOU F***ING B****ES."

Seriously.

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From: KanzarisKelshen | #037

Yes, I can. I remember that 'Megaman Anniversary soundtrack' topic and the insufferable, super whiny, incredibly entitled *****ing about getting robbed (when the price was a steal), about no new game (when it was an obvious indicator that they remember the Blue Bomber exists) and every other stupid thing you could possibly think of. That fanbase is toxic, and as much as I like MM games, I would be happy if no more came out if it means people SO insufferable continue to get trolled. They deserve it.

How much is Capcom paying you per post because I'd like to contact Our The Nintendo about a similar arrangement.

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From: KanzarisKelshen | #035

No, it absolutely is not.

It is absolutely nothing compared to adding new characters, moves, and modes.

It's like hanging a picture on a wall compared to building four walls.

Eh, that's a little extreme.

It's more like hanging a painting on a wall compared to painting five more similar paintings and then hanging those, too.

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That's what seriously gets me.

We've gotten to a point where, in a lot of fanbases, we have unpleasable fans on one side, and fans who tolerate nothing short of worship for the developers on the other.

Thank you, internet echo chamber.

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From: KanzarisKelshen | #037

about no new game (when it was an obvious indicator that they remember the Blue Bomber exists)

Ahahahahahaha

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From: KanzarisKelshen | #035

No, it absolutely is not.

It is absolutely nothing compared to adding new characters, moves, and modes.

It's like hanging a picture on a wall compared to building four walls.

No, it's more like fixing the roof of your house as opposed to building a new small shed, walls, roof and all. Again, you're looking at something that *looks* easy on the outside but is not. Unless you're just throwing **** at the wall and seeing what sticks, proper balance is both time-consuming, and takes up much more time than just fiddling with some numbers in the source code.

From: LeonhartFour | #038

Chill out, Kanz. It's all right.

Nah, I prefer to say my piece Leon. I despise fanbases that try to play the victim when they're the cancer that kills the thing they love. You're not a tabletop gamer so you don't have experience dealing with horrible, groggy fanbases, but I do. Listening to such a fanbase only leads to the thing they fanboy about becoming a massive flop. Why do you think most Megaman games sell 200k copies, never more and never less? MM as a franchise has stagnated, and listening to the whiny, small, currently existing fanbase will only serve to kill it off completely. The right thing for Capcom to do if they want Megaman to be successful is to ignore the preexisting fanbase, and look for ways to capture new people. Less 8-bit VC rehashes, and more reinventing the formula. The current fanbase has to be left to rot, and they should be laughed into silence so everybody else doesn't have to listen to their constant complaints.

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From: KanzarisKelshen | #045
Nah, I prefer to say my piece Leon.
I know you do.

But you're coming off as whiny and irrational as the fanbase you're raging against.

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LeonhartFour posted...

From: KanzarisKelshen | #045
Nah, I prefer to say my piece Leon.
I know you do.

But you're coming off as whiny and irrational as the fanbase you're raging against.

This so bad, dude.

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I'm pretty sure you'd get b****y if the devs of your favorite series kept trolling you and canceling their s*** and laughing at you while doing it, kanz

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From: KanzarisKelshen | #045
Nah, I prefer to say my piece Leon.
I know you do.

But you're coming off as whiny and irrational as the fanbase you're raging against.

Really? Saying 'hey, these guys act like Capcom beat them up and kicked them in the balls because there hasn't been a new game in all of two years because the old ones weren't selling and the company (which loooooooves money, so they're not going to be idiotic and utterly drop a brand with a famous name and pedigree) is spending a good long while thinking about how to rejuvenate the franchise instead of churning out more games that aren't making back their cost' is being irrational? C'mon, get real here. I actually develop things, so I have a clue about what is going on here - and it's not the victimization the MM fanbase thinks is actually happening.

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