Board 8 > Is there a point where contests lost their magic for you?

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XIII_rocks
07/01/12 7:24:00 PM
#51:


You thinking it's overrated beyond everything else doesn't make it true, bro.

Organized religion is objectively the most overrated, pointless entity in human history. You will not find a spiritual connection in a 501(c)(3) charity house.


Of all people, I can't believe you are acting like I need an "imo" qualifier on things I say

(and no, ff/ff7 is still more overrated than that. People think FF7 did that thing that sometimes happens where something is overrated, and then becomes underrated because of how many people are moaning about how overrated it is. I agree that that can happen to certain things - it's happened to a few football players that I can think of - but... no, as long as the reaction to FF7 is not absolute vitriol from every possible angle, it's overrated)

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LeonhartFour
07/01/12 7:25:00 PM
#52:


From: XIII_rocks | #051
but... no, as long as the reaction to FF7 is not absolute vitriol from every possible angle, it's overrated

Take it easy, bro.

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XIII_rocks
07/01/12 7:30:00 PM
#53:


Oh I am

That's a very, very cold and scientific view. Any anger or fire I had to direct at FF7 or the majority of the FF series in general disappeared a long time ago. Now it's a very considered statement.

(My hatred for FF5, however, still burns with the passion of about 48 suns. Most of the suns died out over the course of the last almost-year, but there's still some rage left over)

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LeonhartFour
07/01/12 7:31:00 PM
#54:


From: XIII_rocks | #053
That's a very, very cold and scientific view

LOL

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Jeff Zero
07/01/12 7:35:00 PM
#55:


The really neat thing about FFVII is that it's actually in the top five greatest games I've played and deserves all the praise it can get, aside from anything deviantArt has ever contributed to the subject of course.

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LeonhartFour
07/01/12 7:44:00 PM
#56:


There's nothing scientific about that statement.

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XIII_rocks
07/01/12 7:44:00 PM
#57:


From: LeonhartFour | #054
From: XIII_rocks | #053
That's a very, very cold and scientific view

LOL

It's true though.

Whereas in like 04/05 my hatred of that game/series was still raw and developing, 7 years later it's just boiled down to cold rationale. Like, I won't go on sweary rants about why I can't stand it and why I think Big Rigs is better. I'm just comfortable with the fact that I think it's worthless garbage.

To use another example that occasionally comes up in b8c, the GotD match between Golden Sun and San Andreas. At the time and for quite a while afterwards I ranted about how terrible a result this was for an otherwise-"improving" site (taste-wise, anyway - stuff like the rise of Snake in 06 and going as far as to literally beat Sephiroth, for instance). Now, 2 years later, I still think it was the worst result in contest history (Tifa > The Boss is pretty bad, though), but I'll state that very calmly and evenly. The fact that I was...disproportionately angry about it doesn't change how much it sucked. And the fact that I was disproportionately vicious about the FF series doesn't change how much it sucks, either.

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XIII_rocks
07/01/12 7:47:00 PM
#58:


Oh, if you're using a really picky definition of scientific, then sure.

I mean it as in it's thought-out and rationalized. I'm not saying that to "troll", I'm not saying that while blowing a gasket. It's a very rational and honest statement of my viewpoint. I'm just showing how your "take it easy, bro" is redundant.

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LeonhartFour
07/01/12 7:50:00 PM
#59:


I didn't say you were blowing a gasket. It also may be honest.

But it's certainly not rational.

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XIII_rocks
07/01/12 11:54:00 PM
#60:


Yes it is

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SSBM_Guy
07/01/12 11:57:00 PM
#61:


Uh, I don't know what's currently going on in the topic, but I'll go back to the original question.

I've always enjoyed contests. The board is really lively and there are so many nice things going on. Even Rivalry Rumble had some really good moments and I still enjoyed the high activity. It's not as fun as it was a few years ago (2010 was the best contest for me), but it hasn't lost any magic yet. Only problem is that Link is growing insane with strength. Just any match with him will be pretty boring. He doesn't even get really good blowouts like 2002 Mega Man, because of the high anti-votes. He just gets some solid 60-70% against characters.

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tazzyboyishere
07/02/12 12:03:00 AM
#62:


GOTD was terrific. It's predecessor was awful,but got me $10.

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ChichiriMuyo
07/02/12 12:05:00 AM
#63:


I'd say 2k5 was the last time I felt "the magic." However, each new gimmick after that has taken more away from it with RR just about being the last straw.

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ZFS
07/02/12 12:08:00 AM
#64:


Hmm. Maybe when it started getting gimmicky and silly. L-Block? I dunno. The contests were never serious, but I think random Tetris pieces winning kind of took it out of the contests.

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ZFS
07/02/12 12:09:00 AM
#65:


also when mario/crono stopped being the best match in a given contest. real stars of gamefaqs, link and cloud can sit down

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Mega Mana
07/02/12 12:45:00 AM
#66:


Gordon Freeman won.

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Lopen
07/02/12 1:53:00 AM
#67:


From: WarThaNemesis2 | #004
When people rallied for Zelda winning Game of the Decade.


Really think this is the right answer.

Though it's hard to know at this point since it's been so long since we've had a real contest. Gimmick contests might've killed it more than this. Gotta see a real bracket and see how I feel about it.

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pjbasis
07/02/12 2:03:00 AM
#68:


I'll say it again.

Character Battle with non-vg originated characters or game contest without any entry or bracket restrictions.

Insta-win

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ctesjbuvf
07/02/12 6:18:00 AM
#69:


LeonhartFour posted...
Nah, real contests are still great.

Stuff like the Rivalry Rumble is not.


This exactly.

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AlphaRayAllen
07/02/12 7:30:00 AM
#70:


Actually, I'd like to change my vote.

I think they lost their magic around the time where everyone was trying to think of ways to make the contests more interesting.

When people start wanting to phone in Batman or Jack Sparrow or whatever, I have to imagine that where we are now isn't so great.

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Kotetsu534
07/02/12 7:37:00 AM
#71:


When I realised we'd had one non-Rivalry Rumble contest in two years

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neonreaper
07/02/12 7:44:00 AM
#72:


I think once female/villains brackets came in, the real magic was gone. To me it came back with four ways, though I think we can't always have them. I feel like a cycle of characters/games/4waychar/4waygame would be good, maybe trade out four ways for "of this generation/of this decade" type contests as warrants.

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LinkMarioSamus
07/02/12 9:34:00 AM
#73:


UltimaterializerX posted...
GotD was amazing.


The only thing amazing about it was SOTC's run, and that would've been way more cool if it actually charged through horribly overrated games like Majora's Mask and Brawl, or through dumb games I'm not interested in like Fallout 3 and FFX.

Instead, it had to victimize MGS. Why, just why?

Yes Ulti, I've played SOTC, and it's one of my favorite games of all time. You can officially brand me someone with horrible taste in games now.
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BerkeIium
07/02/12 10:01:00 AM
#74:


2006 killed it for me. As bad as Summer 2004 and the villains contest were, I still enjoyed Summer 2005. 2006 marked the beginning of contest gimmicks, which not only caused its own bracket to be crammed full of complete fodder (thanks to the asinine male/female idea) but served as an admission that these contests had run their course. Four-ways were an interesting idea, but I just plain wasn't interested by then, since the so-called "magic" was gone. Plus, Summer 2005 would have served perfectly well as a sendoff to the idea.

How to bring the magic back: Game contest. 1v1 polls. Bracket seeded normally and not organized by year, generation, system, or anything like that. Throw FF7 and the N64 Zelda games into a Tournament of Champions. If this doesn't get decent vote totals, we can all admit that contests are truly dead.
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__Smurf__
07/02/12 10:24:00 AM
#75:


My first contest was 2003, it made a big impact on me and I was at my most interested post-2003 and before 2004 began. I stayed enjoying them from 04-06 although it had lost a bit of that spark. 07 and the whole L-Block 4-way business was the breaking point for me, when it couldn't be taken seriously as a measure of character strength and all the RNG in 4-way bracket placement deciding things my interest waned a lot.
I keep an eye on stuff since but I could honestly not recall a single match post 2007 off the top of my head, I remember almost every part of the bracket from 2003-2006.

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The Mana Sword
07/02/12 10:28:00 AM
#77:


This has been talked about at length in the stats topics before, but 1v1 contests are never really going to have the same magic that they used to because 85% of the characters/games are known quantities and we have a pretty good grasp of all the trends these days.

We either need an entirely different contest format, or an entirely different pool of entrants.

Also most of you people are old now, so there's that.

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The Mana Sword
07/02/12 10:28:00 AM
#78:


"old"

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whatisurnameplz
07/02/12 11:10:00 AM
#80:


From: LinkMarioSamus | #073
UltimaterializerX posted...
GotD was amazing.


The only thing amazing about it was SOTC's run, and that would've been way more cool if it actually charged through horribly overrated games like Majora's Mask and Brawl, or through dumb games I'm not interested in like Fallout 3 and FFX.

Instead, it had to victimize MGS. Why, just why?

Yes Ulti, I've played SOTC, and it's one of my favorite games of all time. You can officially brand me someone with horrible taste in games now.

More like a horrible taste in contests!

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metaIslugg
07/02/12 11:27:00 AM
#81:


LMS you make me physically ill

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