Fair enough, but the wars are still an unequal taxation. Whether or not they bomb a building in the middle east has absolutely no affect on my life, other than forcibly taking money away from me to pay for it.
Well, I guess it does promote Islamic hysteria too, which in turns puts me in even more danger than I already was.
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But I forgot that User is just a troll; I'm not going to waste any more time arguing with him
Says you. And considering how completely subjective morality is, it's best to leave that out of this discussion...especially considering you appear to be implying that a country should allow themselves to be attacked without defending themselves due to it being "immoral" in your eyes. Side note: Nice cop out with the worthless troll comment. It's always nice to use that as a way to run away from a losing argument.
The people in the military signed up for the job. They knowingly chose it.
And they knowingly kill themselves at rapid rates, knowing that they knowingly chose to sign up for this "war"
So your answer is that the military should be designed to sit around and play poker? Cool idea. If that's the case, I'll sign up too!
From: TomNook7 | #052 Fair enough, but the wars are still an unequal taxation. Whether or not they bomb a building in the middle east has absolutely no affect on my life, other than forcibly taking money away from me to pay for it.
Well, I guess it does promote Islamic hysteria too, which in turns puts me in even more danger than I already was.
The War on Terror was designed to prevent future terrorism by eliminating terrorists. It seems that Bush and Obama have done that by sending the troops out there considering we haven't had any attacks since. We may get attacked in the future again...but I'd rather try and prevent it before the crisis actually occurs. Regardless, we aren't fighting terrorists because of bombings in the middle east. The attack on the World Trade Center is what started the war.
Today, you have a better chance of being struck by lightning than be attacked by a terrorist. And that's because we've improved defense and security in our nation, not because we're sinking our economy by spending $1.5 trillion to attack random countries.
You're making this too easy.
I also love how you never responded to me proving that Romney supports Obamacare.
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From: OInsaneOne | #060 From: User728 | #001 Second, it is a slippery slope down to a dictatorship. So you admit that it's an invalid logical argument.
Breaking News: The phrase "slippery slope" can be used for something other than in a discussion about fallacies.
From: TomNook7 | #061 Today, you have a better chance of being struck by lightning than be attacked by a terrorist. And that's because we've improved defense and security in our nation, not because we're sinking our economy by spending $1.5 trillion to attack random countries.
You're making this too easy.
I also love how you never responded to me proving that Romney supports Obamacare.
First off, terrorists could get in here in any way that they'd like if they ever want to. And in all likelihood, they will within the next few years. We don't have some giant dome covering the country. They can and will get in.
Your easy comment was stupid so it's ignored other than this sentence telling you that it's ignored.
I didn't respond to many posts in this topic. As for Obamacare, Romney does not support it as he has said about 1000 times so far. He wants the states and the people to have the power. He doesn't want the central government to have more power. He supports capitalism...especially as a businessman. He will absolutely remove it (likely through waiver) if/when elected. Not only because he doesn't want the federal government to have more power and control more (they suck at running everything other than the military), but also because it will win over every Republican and will make him all the more likely to be re-elected (or to win this first election if he mentions repealing obamacare during campaigns for this election).
As many times as he said he doesn't support it, he also said he does support it. I guess you didn't watch that video. Or know that the blueprints for Obamacare were copied from Romney's healthcare plan used in Massachusetts.
Romney's only saying he's gonna repel Obamacare to get gullible Republicans like yourself to vote for him. He's infamous for being a flip-flopper; he's not actually gonna do it. You can literally go to Youtube right now and see how two-faced he is. It's like when Obama was going to be the peace-time, pro civil liberties candidate, but did the exact opposite when he got into office. Or when Bush promised a non-aggressive foreign policy when he was campaigning. They're just crooked politicians being crooked politicians.
It's basically come down to "Vote Libertarian" or "Betray the Constitution." I have no doubt you'll gleefully choose the latter.
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From: OInsaneOne | #074 I still don't think you're entirely understanding how that "slippery slope" saying works...
Yes, it's a saying....that doesn't really carry any weight logically.
Romney winning the 2012 election is a slippery slope to polygamy being legalized is just as valid as what you said.
Again you're confusing 2 entirely separate meanings of the word. The fallacy meaning has absolutely nothing to do with the phrase when it's used in the way I did. Slippery slope can mean a logical fallacy. It can also mean that it's destined to lead to something. I used the latter. This isn't difficult.
From: TomNook7 | #073 As many times as he said he doesn't support it, he also said he does support it. I guess you didn't watch that video. Or know that the blueprints for Obamacare were copied from Romney's healthcare plan used in Massachusetts.
Romney's only saying he's gonna repel Obamacare to get gullible Republicans like yourself to vote for him. He's infamous for being a flip-flopper; he's not actually gonna do it. You can literally go to Youtube right now and see how two-faced he is. It's like when Obama was going to be the peace-time, pro civil liberties candidate, but did the exact opposite when he got into office. Or when Bush promised a non-aggressive foreign policy when he was campaigning. They're just crooked politicians being crooked politicians.
It's basically come down to "Vote Libertarian" or "Betray the Constitution." I have no doubt you'll gleefully choose the latter.
This post just screams "down with corporate america, the government and the corporations are bad liars, let's have a rock/weed/sex concert to fight the man." I'm not dipping into that nonsense...I'm too old for that crap. As for the Obamacare portion, Romney wanted it for the STATES. That's why it's used in Massachusetts. He has said that 100 times already. He doesn't want the federal government to have more power. Obamacare will be gone if/when he's elected. Any Republican would do it (and any smart Democrat).
This post just screams "down with corporate america, the government and the corporations are bad liars, let's have a rock/weed/sex concert to fight the man." I'm not dipping into that nonsense...I'm too old for that crap. As for the Obamacare portion, Romney wanted it for the STATES. That's why it's used in Massachusetts. He has said that 100 times already. He doesn't want the federal government to have more power. Obamacare will be gone if/when he's elected. Any Republican would do it (and any smart Democrat).
yeah youve definitely given the impression of old/mature throughout this argument
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This post just screams "down with corporate america, the government and the corporations are bad liars, let's have a rock/weed/sex concert to fight the man." I'm not dipping into that nonsense...I'm too old for that crap. As for the Obamacare portion, Romney wanted it for the STATES. That's why it's used in Massachusetts. He has said that 100 times already. He doesn't want the federal government to have more power. Obamacare will be gone if/when he's elected. Any Republican would do it (and any smart Democrat).
yeah youve definitely given the impression of old/mature throughout this argument
So his dad has money and/or his mom is sleeping with the dean. Big deal, that doesn't say anything about him other than that he might be the bastard son of a law school dean. Too bad intelligence isn't hereditary.
From: UltimaterializerX | #085 I love all the crybaby Lib8erals who think any conservative is a troll. User got through law school, which means he's doing more with his life than you ever will.
Romney won't overturn this, FYI. The next election might as well be called the Obamney Dictatorship, since both guys support the exact same things and are funded by the exact same banks.
Haha yes. Board 8 is the only Gfaqs board where I'm a flat out troll for being a Republican. As for Romney and Obamacare...I feel as though, if for no other reason, he'd overturn it to score points with the GOP (especially since many feel he isn't conservative enough...this should get him full GOP support). But we'll see. I know that his argument was that state controlled health care is fine but federal control isn't (I'd prefer neither...but would definitely rather give the states more power than to give the federal government yet another power that they shouldn't have and are incapable of handling).
So his dad has money and/or his mom is sleeping with the dean. Big deal, that doesn't say anything about him other than that he might be the bastard son of a law school dean. Too bad intelligence isn't hereditary.
Come on. That's just lame. First off, I have $83k in student loans and it's all from law school. My dad didn't pay anything, and I don't exactly have the best relationship with him (though he has been better the last 2-3 weeks so we'll see how things go). The mom thing I don't even need to address since it's just stupid. I worked my ass off during law school, and somehow managed to work even harder while studying for the NY and NJ Bars. It was the toughest thing I ever did in my life but I worked damn hard for it. Your post was filled with unreachable straws and immaturity.
It's not because you're a republican, it's because your logic is awful. No one calls, say, redsox a troll, because he actually backs up his points and doesn't say things like "it's a slippery slope down to a dictatorship"
God I hope you're better at being a lawyer than you are at this.
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It's not because you're a republican, it's because your logic is awful. No one calls, say, redsox a troll, because he actually backs up his points and doesn't say things like "it's a slippery slope down to a dictatorship"
God I hope you're better at being a lawyer than you are at this.
You are literally explaining to a troll why he is a troll. Do you not see the problem here.
they're only valid if you can show how one thing logically leads to the other, which people using a slippery slope argument don't do the vast majority of the time.
It's like if I were to claim that all positive integers are squares, showed the base case (1=1^2), and then proclaimed victory without proving the (false) inductive step.
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