Board 8 > Teenage same-sex couple shot in Texas park; one dead.

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CherryCokes
06/25/12 6:28:00 PM
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http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/06/25/12402620-teen-lesbian-couple-found-shot-in-texas-park?lite

this is not good

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KingButz
06/25/12 6:30:00 PM
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We have no idea if this was a biased crime at all.

100% sure the media will spin it as one, though!

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Big Bob
06/25/12 6:30:00 PM
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Clearly this is reflective of Texas as a whole.

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CherryCokes
06/25/12 6:32:00 PM
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From: KingButz | #002
We have no idea if this was a biased crime at all.

100% sure the media will spin it as one, though!


It's either biased or random, and either way it's pretty horrible

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WickIebee
06/25/12 6:32:00 PM
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KingButz posted...
We have no idea if this was a biased crime at all.

100% sure the media will spin it as one, though!


This. No clue if the shooter knew about their relationship, but according to how the victims knew it has to go everywhere.

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AlphaRayAllen
06/25/12 6:34:00 PM
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When asked if police had been able to determine if the girls' sexuality played any role in the shootings, Wright told msnbc.com: “That’s always something that we’re looking for, but as of this point, we have not been able to establish that that had anything to do with the attack.”

Considering that it happened in Texas, I think we have a good idea.

Loving the sudden 180 in your attitude towards Texas as well, B8.

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Dark Young Link
06/25/12 6:34:00 PM
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That's horrible. :(


I don't want to jump to the conclusion that this was done because of gay fear, because it doesn't matter. The person who did this is unforgivable, and I hope they pay for this crime.

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KingButz
06/25/12 6:35:00 PM
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From: CherryCokes | #004
It's either biased or random, and either way it's pretty horrible


No doubt it's horrible. That goes without saying.

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Djungelurban
06/25/12 6:36:00 PM
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Gay hate crime in Texas? Who would have thought...

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foolm0ron
06/25/12 6:47:00 PM
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No one will care about this if it wasn't a gay hate crime, so even if it's not a gay hate crime, everyone will try their hardest to believe it was one, so that they can care.

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SmartMuffin
06/25/12 6:49:00 PM
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They were probably shot by a jealous lesbian.

I mean, of course there aren't any facts backing up my assertion, but it's perfectly reasonable to assume that, right?

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SmartMuffin
06/25/12 6:51:00 PM
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Are you alleging that there aren't any lesbians in Texas?

These were the only two?

Good thing they found each other!

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SpeedYoshi
06/25/12 6:53:00 PM
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From: SmartMuffin | #013
Are you alleging that there aren't any lesbians in Texas?

These were the only two?

Good thing they found each other!


no, only one was a lesbian, she tricked the other one

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Meow1000
06/25/12 6:55:00 PM
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foolm0ron posted...
No one will care about this if it wasn't a gay hate crime, so even if it's not a gay hate crime, everyone will try their hardest to believe it was one, so that they can care.


This is probably the most accurate

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SmartMuffin
06/25/12 6:55:00 PM
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no, only one was a lesbian, she tricked the other one

That's quite the trick!

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TomNook7
06/25/12 6:56:00 PM
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"one dead" isnt an independent clause and didnt need a semi colon

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_Regaro_
06/25/12 6:56:00 PM
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From: SantaRPG | Posted: 6/25/2012 8:54:02 PM | #015
No I'm just saying in a small town like portland texas, which is in quite a red area, haters probably outnumber other lesbians.

Except maybe some districts in Dallas/Houston/Austin/Maybe San Antonio, the entire state is "quite a red area". And a surprisingly religious one at that.

****ing sick of all the political commercials, personally.

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Meow1000
06/25/12 6:57:00 PM
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foolm0ron
06/25/12 6:57:00 PM
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From: SpeedYoshi | #014
no, only one was a lesbian, she tricked the other one

That episode of Community was awesome

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_Regaro_
06/25/12 7:00:00 PM
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I'm not overly familiar with houston - just been down there a couple times going down to Galveston. I know DFW has had a few hate crimes around lately, including at least one sexuality-related though

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ImTheMacheteGuy
06/25/12 7:13:00 PM
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The only parts of Texas that I respect at all are the dry parts, because I don't respect heat/humidity, but dry heat is okay and doesn't bother me so much...

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SovietOmega
06/25/12 7:13:00 PM
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Pretty much unless it is a major city or international melting pot kind of area, texas is...a bit silly. Like, the area I grew up in was a military town so we have a lot of korean and german and all sorts of fun cultures But travel 30 minutes in any direction and it becomes hicksville...

Anyway, I can't really comment much on this kind of behavior as...it kinda isn't a thing limited by region. People get killed for any number of reason, and while it is easy to speculate based on known factors, they may or may not be a contributing factor...

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Kinglicious
06/25/12 7:15:00 PM
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Except maybe some districts in Dallas/Houston/Austin/Maybe San Antonio, the entire state is "quite a red area".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annise_Parker
http://blogs.houstonpress.com/hairballs/2012/05/mary_gonzalez_lesbian_wins.php
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craig_Watkins
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lupe_Valdez

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Silverliner182V
06/25/12 7:17:00 PM
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occam's razor says they were killed because they were lesbians imho -- especially if the crime happened in the bible belt.

there's not much reason to shoot not one, but two teenagers in the head with a gun.

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Meow1000
06/25/12 7:18:00 PM
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I actually live relatively close to Hicksville.

This isn't even a joke either.

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Mershaaay
06/25/12 7:24:00 PM
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Corpus Christi isn't exactly part of the "Bible Belt"

Stop gay-baiting

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OmarsComin
06/25/12 7:27:00 PM
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maybe they were shot by a woman hater

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CycloRaptor
06/25/12 7:30:00 PM
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how in the world are any of these comments belittling anyone who gets worked up over a possible hate crime by acting like they never happen any better? it isn't like you guys have any of the facts either. you are literally attacking a possible reaction to something based on a possible outcome out of your own sense of superiority..

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Silverliner182V
06/25/12 7:34:00 PM
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again, occam's razor.

it's unlikely to be a robbery gone bad. most thieves are cowards and wouldn't dare approach a group of two or more. it is also unlikely that they would shoot them, since a robber is in it for the money and (generally) doesn't want blood on his hands.

it is also incredibly unlikely to be a psychopath, or else there would be an ongoing chain of murders.

it's not a sex crime, they weren't raped and they weren't prostitutes.

besides that I can't think of a lot of reasons to randomly shoot two people. easy to assume it's a hate crime. you don't kill people without a reason, even if your reasoning is bad.

it's horrible regardless, but still.

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CherryCokes
06/25/12 7:35:00 PM
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From: TomNook7 | #018
"one dead" isnt an independent clause and didnt need a semi colon


stop being an assh***; it's really unbecoming

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SmartMuffin
06/25/12 7:36:00 PM
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you don't kill people without a reason

so straight teenagers never get murdered?

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AlphaRayAllen
06/25/12 7:36:00 PM
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From: SmartMuffin | #034
so straight teenagers never get murdered?

Do they get murdered because they're straight?

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Silverliner182V
06/25/12 7:39:00 PM
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so straight teenagers never get murdered?

nice strawman

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foolm0ron
06/26/12 8:16:00 AM
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You do often kill people without a reason for killing them specifically, just that they were in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Also, occam's razor doesn't work like that. The problem with the article is that the basis of the article is that "we have no idea why anyone would want to kill them" but then they push the gay hate crime angle so much. That's not occam's razor, that's wishful thinking, which is perfectly understandable since it makes for great news, but I think you'll agree it's also terrible. This applies to what cyclo was saying, too.

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