Board 8 > Gerbil ranks the final evolutions of all* the Pokemon 2: Electric Boogaloo

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SuorGenoveffa
06/17/12 11:44:00 AM
#101:


Charizard > Typhlosion > Ganondorf > Infernape > Chicken

Empoleon > Blastoise > Swampert > Feralolator > Samurott

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GenesisSaga
06/17/12 11:50:00 AM
#102:


How can a big smug snake cross it's arms?

It could use Vine Whip and then cross its vines. >_>'

Perfection for Ash's team this generation would be Emboar, Dewott, Snivy, and it seems like this is actually something that might happen.

Perfection actually would've been Tepig, Dewott, Serperior for me, but alas! <_<
At least we both agree Dewott is the best.

And lol at you guys fooling yourselves info thinking it wasn't Serperior. The clue was "It has less limbs than it's pre-evolutions"- that's with an "s" so that eliminates Armaldo who has less limbs than its one prevo and Golem who has less limbs than Graveler but more than Geodude.
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mnkboy907
06/17/12 12:15:00 PM
#103:


Snivy, Dewott, and Emboar would be the best, and I even hope they change or implement a new Pokemon Trainer in SSB4 with that line up.

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SuorGenoveffa
06/17/12 12:19:00 PM
#104:


If I know Sakurai well enough, Trainer won't be in SSB4.

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Grand Kirby
06/17/12 1:12:00 PM
#105:


Serperior is ugly. Smugleaf deserved better.

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GenesisSaga
06/17/12 7:01:00 PM
#106:


Serperior is beautiful. Wtf is wrong with some of y'all? >_>
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mnkboy907
06/17/12 7:06:00 PM
#107:


It's pretty ugly. It started off so promising, but then turned bleh. The color scheme in particular is awful. Maybe it was actually decent in battle I would've been swayed, like I was with Emboar, but nope. It's just all around the worst.

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SuorGenoveffa
06/17/12 7:11:00 PM
#108:


Mnk how do you live with yourself knowing that your opinions on pokémon are so terrible?

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mnkboy907
06/17/12 7:15:00 PM
#109:


Well, I sleep pretty okay knowing that Serperior is currently ranked third out of the four Grass starters this board has rated so far, with Meganium being fourth.

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mnkboy907
06/18/12 6:58:00 PM
#110:


Oh hey, this topic is a topic.

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MarvelousGerbil
06/18/12 7:49:00 PM
#111:


Nah, this topic is a miserable little pile of secrets.

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mnkboy907
06/18/12 7:50:00 PM
#112:


Well not so secret now that you announced Spiky-Eared Pichu for #1.

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MarvelousGerbil
06/18/12 7:56:00 PM
#113:


"It's not the destination, it's the journey"

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MarvelousGerbil
06/19/12 12:53:00 PM
#114:


276. (Bruno's) Onix
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Sorry snake lovers, Brock's signature Pokemon can't get much more credit than this. It's design is really simple and boring, just a bunch of rocks slapped together to form a snake, whoopie. I don't really recall any character development in any of Brock's Pokemon, sans Vulpix, so I can't even give it much credit for anime awesomeness (only real memorable time was it losing to an attack it's immune to, lol anime logic). In the anime, he even evolves off screen (which I guess implies his siblings traded it away while he was gone, little bastards).

In fact if anything Onix deserves less credit for being Brock's because in HG/SS he's among the only gym leaders rematch (well, lol Claire she makes even less sense, really...) that has an NFE in his team. In fact, game Brock only ever evolved Onix in Round 2 of Pokemon Stadium 2 As far as battle usefulness, he was only fully evolved for the one generation that was dominated by Parasect and psychic types, so of course it was going to be UU. I will admit that in Pokemon Yellow, Onix was a legitimate threat. IIRC, Mankey was really the only Pokemon that was available at the time that you could effectively use against it without some hardcore powerleveling or a ton of potions (I do recall beating it once with just Quick Attack Pikachu, but I think it was level 16 by then). Even in R/B if you choose Charmander it's special defense was so low that Ember did well enough against it.

It also annoyed me that Bruno literally always had at least one Onix in his team when even in R/B he neglected Poliwrath and Primeape and had even more available options in future generations (well except Stadium 2 where his teams just threw his theme out the window anyway. Seriously, Granbull, Blastoise, Clefable, Muk, wtf). In fact the only time he had a pure fighting team was in the HG/SS rematch (The Hitmon Trio, Lucario, Hariyama, Machamp). It's little details, but it bugs me when gym leaders/E4 advertise themselves as a certain type and use others when there are available options (Except Dragons since Gyarazard gets screwed on typing anyway). Anyway, it seems that Onix has gotten away from me. Mediocre Pokemon, needed an evolution badly in Gen 2, got it and still kind of sucks, but more on that later.

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mcflubbin
06/19/12 12:58:00 PM
#115:


In Yellow, I always just leveled up a Butterfree until it learned Confusion to beat Brock.

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MarvelousGerbil
06/19/12 1:05:00 PM
#116:


275.Vespiquen
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And we go from a Pokemon that gets a long ass rant to one that there's not much I can say about. Vespiquen design is fine enough I guess, though I'm not a fan of the honeycomb dress. Beedrill is the superior bee Pokemon IMO (wasp, bee, whatever). I remember meeting some annoyance in getting a female Combee (yay 12.5%) but I guess as far as lore goes, it makes perfect sense, so I can let that slide. Of all the Bug type pokemon that are out there, Bugsy chose it for his HG/SS rematches, so maybe he's seeing something that I'm not, but it never gave me any trouble. It's NU tier, which isn't exactly uncommon for bugs (I think there's three in OU, Forretress, Volcarona, Scizor), but I guess it could be interesting to see how it fairs in comparison to all the other flying bugs that just get rockslide OHKOed.

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MarvelousGerbil
06/19/12 1:06:00 PM
#117:


From: mcflubbin | #115
In Yellow, I always just leveled up a Butterfree until it learned Confusion to beat Brock.

I figured someone would say this. I never did because for some reason my 10 year old brain couldn't think outside the box and know that a level 12 Onix didn't have any rock type moves.

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MarvelousGerbil
06/19/12 1:11:00 PM
#118:


Upcoming:
274-I bet it wouldn't look so happy if it knew where I was ranking it
273-Has a funny novelty about it, but is ultimately pretty useless
272-A pink Pokemon

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mcflubbin
06/19/12 1:18:00 PM
#119:


Um...
Politoed
Chatot
Clefable

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MarvelousGerbil
06/19/12 1:21:00 PM
#120:


Correct Guesses:
Mnkboy-15 (Shinx, Vulpix, ???)
Genesis-9 (Dewott)
Suor-6 (Pidgeotto)
Cody-5 (Hoot-Hoot)
mcflubbin-5 (Oddish)
Some_Character-2
Pondos-2
Most_games_r_ok-2
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20three-1

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Some_Character
06/19/12 1:30:00 PM
#121:


274 - Ludicolo
273 - Castform
272 - Wigglytuff

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GenesisSaga
06/19/12 3:47:00 PM
#122:


NOT VESPIQUEN! >_<

274. Ludicolo
273. Chatot
272. Musharna

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SuorGenoveffa
06/19/12 3:55:00 PM
#123:


274. Cherrim
273. Chatot
272. Musharna

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Pondos
06/19/12 4:24:00 PM
#124:


274. Blissey
273. Bouffalant
272. Wigglytuff

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GenesisSaga
06/19/12 5:45:00 PM
#125:


SuorGenoveffa posted...
274. Cherrim
273. Chatot
272. Musharna


Cherrim has already appeared.

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MarvelousGerbil
06/20/12 1:36:00 PM
#126:


274. Whimsicott
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Yay making the cotton pokemon a black version exclusive. I dunno, it's kinda cute, but there's a ton of cute fluffy pokemon, a grass one isn't getting much higher than this. It's made no anime appearances of note. I guess with prankster it could be fun with seeding, toxic, subing, etc. but I can't say I ever see myself using it.

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GenesisSaga
06/20/12 5:16:00 PM
#127:


Oh.

Thought that showed up a while ago tbqh.

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MarvelousGerbil
06/20/12 5:56:00 PM
#128:


273. Shuckle
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Oh, Shuckle, If this isn't the perfect example of a Pokemon that needs an evolution I don't know what is. If I understand things properly, Shuckle is hypothetically capable of doing the most damage out of any Pokemon out there via it having the highest defense in the game, as well as access to Power Trick and Rollout, which is kind of cool but incredibly impractical in use. Despite this, it's in the NU tier. It also had a cool ability in Gen 2 that changed berries into juice and juice into rare candy, but it was removed in later generations. I'm not a fan of it's design, the thing looks like if you squeezed a red colored mustard pack too hard and it exploded out random holes caused by the pressure. It might be cool if it got some kind of evolution so that it could actually get some use, but who knows.

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Natwaf_akidna
06/20/12 5:59:00 PM
#129:


changed berries into juice and juice into rare candy

It what now. Huh.

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MarvelousGerbil
06/20/12 6:00:00 PM
#130:


Yeah it was kind of silly, but it got scrapped later, probably because of abilities later. Still since it's pretty useless anyway they could have gave it the same thing as a non-combat ability.

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hideto
06/20/12 6:01:00 PM
#131:


So much grass hate here. They've always been my favorite starters too on top of that Serperior is such a gorgeous and elegant Pokémon. I kind wish Ivysaur didn't turn into a monster for the final evolutions, but even Venusaur has his charms:
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MarvelousGerbil
06/20/12 6:57:00 PM
#132:


272.Clefable
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A lot of stone evolutions are a lot worse off than just leaving them alone, at least design-wise. I'm sick of seeing all the stupid Gengar/Clefable theories all over the internet too. Clefairy isn't too bad, but Fable just looks like they stretched it out and slaped some non-functioning wings on it's back. Maybe it's just me but Clefable looks like a tired Peanuts character for some reason. It's pretty bad in battle too. It's in RU and is basically a worse Blissey. It's always kind of sad when you see a 3 step evolution family that is still not terribly useful. It's got no room to improve (unless of course they jump the shark and implement 4 step families). It'll almost certainly never improve unless all the Pokemon get rehauled in Gen 6 or it gets an absolutely ridiculous ability in future generations.

Upcoming:
271-On the box art of a main series game
270-He seems like a fun guy (heh heh)
269-A Pokemon that was temporarily used by Ash

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Grand Kirby
06/20/12 7:02:00 PM
#133:


Clefable's always been interesting battle-wise. Its extremely varied movepool made it useful at times throughout the years, and before Magic Guard got more widespread, it had it's own little niche ability. Clefable's never really been that bad, it's just outclassed too easily.

Its animations in the 3D games are great, though.

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GenesisSaga
06/20/12 8:54:00 PM
#134:


271- prolly either Groudon or Giratina... I'll go with Groudon
270- Ludicolo
269- Arbok

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GenesisSaga
06/20/12 8:55:00 PM
#135:


Maybe it's just me but Clefable looks like a tired Peanuts character for some reason.

It's the eyes. They're drawn almost exactly like Charlie Brown's, and yeah Clefairy is superior to that garbage. Same with Jigglypuff, Skitty...

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mcflubbin
06/20/12 8:59:00 PM
#136:


Giratina
Amoonguss
Arbok

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MarvelousGerbil
06/21/12 12:19:00 PM
#137:


Oh, I should probably update this...

Correct Guesses:
Mnkboy-15 (Shinx, Vulpix, ???)
Genesis-9 (Dewott)
Suor-6 (Pidgeotto)
mcflubbin-6 (Oddish)
Cody-5 (Hoot-Hoot)
Some_Character-2
Pondos-2
Most_games_r_ok-2
htaeD-1
20three-1

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MarvelousGerbil
06/21/12 5:42:00 PM
#138:


More guesses?

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SuorGenoveffa
06/21/12 5:48:00 PM
#139:


Uh...

Giratina
Ludicolo
Uhh I wouldn't want to say Arbok, but I can't come up with anything better for now so... Arbok

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MarvelousGerbil
06/22/12 12:42:00 PM
#140:


271.Dialga
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Giratina>Dialga>Palkia easily, though all three kind of suck. I don't get Nintendo's passion with making dragon types that don't look like dragons. Maybe I don't know mythology well enough, but the DP and BW trios just don't look like dragons to me. Regardless I also kind of thought that Palkia and Dialga's types or lore should be switched. It makes more sense to me that water and time both flow, I guess space is expanding, but water doesn't expand. I'm probably just being picky here. Dialga's design is a little better than Palkia's overall. I like it's coloration better and it's neck isn't as stupid looking. He also didn't piss me off in Brawl. Avoiding his beams and dealing with less ground isn't nearly as bad as the controls flipping.

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GenesisSaga
06/22/12 8:41:00 PM
#141:


Hijo de puta that's the one thing I wasn't expecting for some dumb reason!

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MarvelousGerbil
06/22/12 8:43:00 PM
#142:


You should have guessed Blastoise.

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MarvelousGerbil
06/23/12 11:13:00 PM
#143:


Bump, bump, bump it up!

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GenesisSaga
06/24/12 6:28:00 PM
#144:


CHAAAAAAAARBOK!

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MarvelousGerbil
06/26/12 12:02:00 PM
#145:


270.Breloom
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I don't get how this thing is fighting type. I guess it beats crap with it's tail or something, but it's arms are so tiny that and it seems so bottom heavy that I don't know how it keeps it's balance. Of course, they had to give it Spore which with this thing's stats is basically an express train to OU, all aboard the pain-in-the-ass express. I feel bad for Parasect since it's definitely the better of the fungus Pokemon and this thing stole it's best asset (well, and Smeargle... and Amoongus). I haven't done much on Shoddy Battle since HG/SS but I remember every other team seemed to have this thing, but there are so many cooler looking Pokemon that it pissed me off.

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GenesisSaga
06/26/12 12:07:00 PM
#146:


I do not remember Ash commanding a Breloom.

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mnkboy907
06/26/12 12:08:00 PM
#147:


Breloom's arms stretch, I believe.

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Grand Kirby
06/26/12 12:13:00 PM
#148:


Breloom is the only natural Spore user I like. Mainly because it doesn't look amazing ugly. It's getting way overpowered though.

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mnkboy907
06/26/12 12:17:00 PM
#149:


It also just got access to its Dream World ability, Technician, which I think makes it even better. Mach Punch and Bullet Seed will certainly hurt with it, at least.

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MarvelousGerbil
06/26/12 12:20:00 PM
#150:


269. Rapidash
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Screw the Pokemon Fan Club President, Rapidash is pretty lame for a first gen pokemon. In a game with Charizard, Arcanine, and Ninetales, come on, who's using this? ****ing Bronies probably. I'm not a big horse fan, so it's design doesn't really appeal to me. It would probably boost up a few spaces if it's shiny sprite was similar to Ponyta's but they dropped the ball big time. Ponyta has a top 10, maybe even top 5 shiny sprite, and Rapidash is damn near the bottom...

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It always bugged me that it loses it's flames in the first movie. Kind of picky and funny, but come on, get it right.

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Battlewise, fire is absolute crap now, but it's still close to the bottom of the fire totem pole. It's got the battle advantage over Flareon at least, because lol Flareon.

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