Board 8 > does it feel like the board is a lot less social lately?

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gotta post this every time kanzarisMPFC comes up



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From: GuessMyUserName | #148

From: XIII_rocks | #141
I think if we're talking successful trolls Vlado is the undisputed #1. Vlado has been going for 8 years and he still draws people in. It's incredible.

there is literally a grand total of 1 person that gets drawn into Vlado topics, and that's Lightning Strikes.

Vlado is not one ounce better than any of the other plethora of gutter trolls this place is flooded with - he literally started taking cues off of them and degraded into an "xfd" troll. Then of course there's his tired gimmick of just ^5ing every poll option that's anti-Nintendo.

Oh Lightning Strikes is hilariously pathetic I will grant you, but I don't think it's restricted to him at all.

In fairness, I don't think Vlado has TRIED on a consistent basis for a while now. Once every few months he puts some effort in and when he does people still fall for it.

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From: GuessMyUserName | #144

It's not about wanting random people online to like you - it's that if one incident happens, you may not be able to make a single post without that subject coming up every time. I've been through it, every post I made would just be scoffed at and derailed to a topic about users instead of the actual discussion. You just can't be enjoy the board for a while, that's why I had to hold back a lot of posts for a while.

this happens, yeah. I don't think anyone is denying that. I think the board would be a much better place if it didn't, but what can you do? personally I'm a pretty big advocate for calling someone out if they are acting stupid in a topic they make. . . regardless of who they are. but I think it's really crappy to bug someone about something they've done in the past in an unrelated topic, if that makes sense.

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You know what I really love? Board projects, from games to stories to CYOAs. It seems that they're having a harder time getting attention nowadays.

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From: JeffreyRaze | #154
You know what I really love? Board projects, from games to stories to CYOAs. It seems that they're having a harder time getting attention nowadays.

Too many of them probably

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It's not about wanting random people online to like you - it's that if one incident happens, you may not be able to make a single post without that subject coming up every time.

this is absolutely true and born out of the same line of trolling we have now. sometimes it can be rolled off like a joke, e.g., santa.

sometimes it becomes something that people blow up out of proportion and take out of context, e.g., saro. which is a case that i find peculiar still because it wasn't THAT long before when he did the zombie fic that everyone adored. and then all of a sudden people are going 'yeah that saro's terrible' for no real reason beyond to bandwagon and be spiteful jerks.


i do also think much of that applies to ayuyu and anagram really. i mean we made fun of jc and cetchs or however the hell his name is spelled, but somehow they "grew in" to certain areas. for no sensible reason beyond they just stayed for a while. however i'd sooner say that the way it was before that was far more open too. we've definitely secluded ourselves from new blood and will outright murder 'em for no real reason. now sometimes it's a case of you really don't like a person regardless, but often it's just the same kind of 'noobiness' that gets treated worse.

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I haven't done a writing project or CYOA in a while. every time I start to get into the mood to work on a new one, something else comes up though. the stars just haven't aligned for it yet.

I'm not sure if they ever will again.

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A brief history of the Board 8 I've experienced: loads of creative projects -> lots of social interaction -> deadness.

we just don't try anymore. most board 8 posts, like this one, are 1-2 lines and not taken seriously at all. they're just lackadaisical conversational posts with very little effort put into them.

I think that's okay and somewhat indicative of how long most of us have been here, but if you're looking for a big topic or a serious conversation, this probably isn't the place for it anymore

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Well, the board is certainly burning out on things... But I think partly that's because we have to many projects that have lifespans in the years at this point. Some of them just drag on, which causes people to ignore all of them eventually.

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def disagree there. if you want a serious convo, you absolutely will get it.
you will however also get it hijacked for no damn reason on a nonsense topic started by weak trolling.

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During the summer contest of 2004 newbies really weren't treated differently from regulars. That's probably because there were tons of newbies then, so they didn't "stand out" nearly as much as they do now.

oh you can have them, but they usually happen around an event and not because someone just wants to talk and bring something up.

I couldn't have a serious FF7 topic on this board if I tried

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From: transience | #159

we just don't try anymore. most board 8 posts, like this one, are 1-2 lines and not taken seriously at all. they're just lackadaisical conversational posts with very little effort put into them.

I think that's okay and somewhat indicative of how long most of us have been here, but if you're looking for a big topic or a serious conversation, this probably isn't the place for it anymore

well I think this topic turned out fairly well in terms of keeping myself occupied with interesting discussion. although to be fair I DID "try" when making this topic so you may be onto something.

still, even two lines of random lackadaisical conversation is better than what we get on average around here. aside from contest related stuff and ongoing projects, I basically see no decent conversation at all on an average day.

From: JeffreyRaze | #160

Well, the board is certainly burning out on things... But I think partly that's because we have to many projects that have lifespans in the years at this point. Some of them just drag on, which causes people to ignore all of them eventually.

indeed. sometimes it's hard to just get a project off of the ground. unless you have the 'star power' to get people to pay attention regardless of what you do, you have to sell it very hard otherwise your effort is going to be wasted.

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From: Mr Lasastryke | #162
During the summer contest of 2004 newbies really weren't treated differently from regulars. That's probably because there were tons of newbies then, so they didn't "stand out" nearly as much as they do now.

That's not remotely true.

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Most of the things we want to talk about have already been discussed hundreds of times already. That's why I only post like once or twice a week now. There's really not much else to talk about here.

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well..let's see.

- politics, religion, etc will always remain breeding grounds on the right seasons. any of the big controversies will be held. even some lesser ones will be notable at times. no major event NEEDED, but just a controversy to sit there that's solid.

but i don't know entirely what you mean by a 'serious ff7 topic'. like, a topic talking about how good/bad it was or something? specific details, breakdowns, etc? if so you... never really could do that in the first place. even future with the mgs stuff was like 80% him. however i'd actually say if you wantd to talk about the game itself you still could score 100+ posts on that. you won't hit 500 likely, but it'd be 'successful' in so far as having people talk about it, so long as you set the tone to... whatever the hell you meant.

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I get the Anagram hate but I think it's kind of outdated, btw. Guy made a lot of idiotic topics and made them far too often (the same Pokemon crap over and over for example), but he's been considerably toned down for about a year I think. No problems with the guy, fun user. Shouldn't be punished for stuff that happend that long ago.

And besides it's not like it was even malicious. I tend not to dislike someone unless they're actively, for want of a better word, mean to people. Ayuyu is annoying but I ignore him for the most part rather than being all "omg stop quoting Ayuyu posts, jeez". Contrast that with someone like Biolizard, who is/was a very angry and overly aggressive person and consequently deserves everything he gets/got

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I joined in like 2006 and nobody really treated me any differently. like, sure, there were probably people who voted against me in dumb user contests and stuff but that wasn't because they hated me because I was a "newbie", it was just because they didn't know me. in actual discussion/social topics though I was easily able to blend in and join any discussion as if I was a long-time regular to the board. my first writing project got just as much interest as any of the ones I started up later.

From: GranzonEx | #166

Most of the things we want to talk about have already been discussed hundreds of times already. That's why I only post like once or twice a week now. There's really not much else to talk about here.

maybe you feel that way. I'm always having interesting and fresh discussions with my friends from board 8, except off the board. my biggest lament in this topic is that we've lost that feeling where you could bring that kind of discussion onto the board itself and mingle with people you wouldn't normally chat with every day.

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From: Achromatic | #165

From: Mr Lasastryke | #162
During the summer contest of 2004 newbies really weren't treated differently from regulars. That's probably because there were tons of newbies then, so they didn't "stand out" nearly as much as they do now.

That's not remotely true.

I can back this up as not being remotely true.

Really isn't remotely true. 2002ers and 2003ers looked down on 2k4 newbies in a big way.

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That's not remotely true.

What part of what I said do you think is untrue?

When I started posting here I didn't attract a lot of attention. New regulars are definitely going to attract attention now.

oh we definitely have, after all we're all posting on some quantum board right now because it was shut down already. there's always been some kind of 'prove yourself' period and whatnot. i think, more than anything else, a mix of our secluded nature with changes to the site - the ignore button especially - have ended up just making it worse. increasinly defensive + just ignore 'em = never give 'em a chance.

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transience posted...

I couldn't have a serious FF7 topic on this board if I tried

You totally could. Final Fantasy is one of the things that people are still very ready to take seriously and discuss at length at the drop of a hat. Even the Save My FFX Moment contest shows that people still care.

Your general point is well taken -- that people seem to be less willing to engage and put effort into discussion -- but I don't think it applies where FF is concerned.


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Really isn't remotely true. 2002ers and 2003ers looked down on 2k4 newbies in a big way.

Fair enough. I didn't experience much of this, apparently.

do people really hate anagram? i mean, i make fun of the guy sometimes because he does/says things that are kind of hilarious, but he seems like a nice guy. he doesn't get on my nerves the way actual terrible users do.

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you could be right. I haven't paid attention to the save my ffx moment contest. because, well, it's a save my ffx moment contest!

suffice to say that I don't see big video game discussion topics unless they're new and have a reasonable fanbase here (see: rpgs, nintendo)

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do people really hate anagram?

You bet. I've always liked Anagram and I don't get the Ayuyu hate either - he can be annoying, but I don't understand all the "worst user ever don't quote his posts" stuff. But my opinions on users are often different from the consensus, so whatever.

all I can think about on bad anagram stuff is nostalgia biases

so just don't let anagram and bio in the same topic

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I find Ayuyu pretty entertaining, but in a "I'm sure glad I'm not this guy" kind of way.

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i agree with xiii for the most part there too - people give guys like ayuyu too much hate, and while i can shake my head at a lot of his posts or topics it's not like i feel agitated or am even meant to with him. it's more of a case of "you are an idiot" than anything else. bio's a good mention because he does pretty much come out as a jackass. and he's perfectly fine with that.

the weird thing that happened that i don't understand is how we went from not being okay with it to somehow... being okay with it. don't understand that for the life in me. and it's not unique to him either, but a lot of the same kind of asswipe temperment became 'okay,' for no reason at all. don't think i'll ever get that.

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From: Mr Lasastryke | #178
do people really hate anagram?

You bet. I've always liked Anagram and I don't get the Ayuyu hate either - he can be annoying, but I don't understand all the "worst user ever don't quote his posts" stuff. But my opinions on users are often different from the consensus, so whatever.

More "cynical" people seem to dislike Ayuyu I think. It's more a "I don't have time for this s***" than "you are a terrible person" attitude from what I can tell.

Anagram's nostalgia bias is frustrating and he used to make a lot of topics about that but I don't think that buries him as a user. A lot of people seem to say "bah, Anagram" whenever his name is brought up though, glad to see that attitude seems to have changed a little

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Ayuyu's just a newer form of LTM back when all he did was regurgitate 4chan. he's not an awful person or anything but the board would be better off without his garbage

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the weird thing that happened that i don't understand is how we went from not being okay with it to somehow... being okay with it.

When Bio stopped being realo's lapdog in the alpha/beta arguments, a lot of people (including me) saw that as a change for the better. It's not like everybody is OK with Bio now, though.

calling people babies for not being able to watch a video of getting shot was pretty terrible, and then bragging about how he's seen much worse on the internet and everybody should

he's very 4chan-y

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From: LordoftheMorons | #180
I find Ayuyu pretty entertaining, but in a "I'm sure glad I'm not this guy" kind of way.
Depends, I'm sure a bunch of people wouldn't want to be me because of my life, but man I know a lot of people who are jealous as hell about my extreme positivity and optimism (I guess it doesn't appears as such really on this board but I'm pretty much a person who's always in a good mood, no matter what happens).

I've been asked so often '' How the hell can you be happy all the time? ''. I don't even know, I just am.

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Wanglicious posted...

the weird thing that happened that i don't understand is how we went from not being okay with it to somehow... being okay with it. don't understand that for the life in me. and it's not unique to him either, but a lot of the same kind of asswipe temperment became 'okay,' for no reason at all. don't think i'll ever get that.

Here's how I see the dynamic with Ayuyu (and a lot of others, but he's the most prominent recent example). People initially dislike him for making dumb posts, but they mostly keep it to themselves, because it's not nice to call people out and/or make fun of them. So there's this building backstage sentiment of "wow, this guy is a moron." Eventually it spills out into the open, and people realize that it's a common opinion that Ayuyu is a moron. Then it becomes socially acceptable to call him out and make fun of him, so people do it all the time.

But the important part is that it's not really "new" disdain -- people were thinking the same things about him all along, they just now feel that it's okay to post their thoughts publicly.


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....oh.
well your mistake is seeing realo topics there, or giving that thing any mind. i stand by there's good reason i swore he and joyrock were one and the same for the longest time. like... if it's a matter of 'oh hey he's gonna be a jackass to the guy who's a jackass!' that doesn't magically not make him one too. it could be more what he thinks which i guess is that 'change', the realization that this is how he actually is, but i'm not sure how that's supposed to be better or worse. i don't have him on ignore either mind you - he does at times bring up good points and can be a voice to get people back to reason. but he can also be a complete douche very, very oftentime.


and ayuyu being LTM 2.0 really may explain why i have absolutely no problem with it - i didn't have an issue when ltm did it and i found it to be better than doing nothing at all. i don't see how the board would be "better" without that because i never saw it as "garbage." different? sure, but it wasn't offending anyone anymore than a post with a gif or something. if i laughed, good. if i didn't, whatever. similarly, he eventually did other things too and is perfectly fine. so i don't see why you'd hold disdain for a guy you identify as "an earlier version of a current user who's chill now" because... he... is an earlier version of someone who's chill now? kinda hard for me to wrap my head around that logic.

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Depends, I'm sure a bunch of people wouldn't want to be me because of my life, but man I know a lot of people who are jealous as hell about my extreme positivity and optimism (I guess it doesn't appears as such really on this board but I'm pretty much a person who's always in a good mood, no matter what happens).

I've been asked so often '' How the hell can you be happy all the time? ''. I don't even know, I just am.

You do take the flak you get pretty well, I have to say. That's one reason I don't particularly like or agree with hating on you, because you take the crap that comes your way so well. A lot of people don't and it makes them even worse.

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I think it's part of the joke though.

Like he says annoying things, but it's fun to exaggerate him as the worst guy ever.

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I didn't read the whole topic, but I think a lot of the problem is that people like Sess, Ulti, etc, who used to be actual users seem to be devoted 100% to trolling now (in really predictable ways too, alpha/beta, Obama conspiracy theories, xmfd this post, damage control, etc), and the second they say anything in a topic the topic immediately becomes about whatever they said. Kind of kills discussion.

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and that'd make sense, drak. still find it strange when both can literally co-exist yet boiling down to 'well it became okay with popular ones so there!' certainly explains a lot.

calling people babies for not being able to watch a video of getting shot was pretty terrible, and then bragging about how he's seen much worse on the internet and everybody should

this is bad, yes.
you should call him out on it, yes.
but he does a lot of posts that are completely unrelated to this, with entirely different attitudes, takes, etc. you can justify this on a number of things - immaturity, lack of understanding/empathy, or just plain a different upbringing where that's more normalized - but you shouldn't take the outlier as meaning the whole. for a similar user with this attitude, let's look at tak. tak will say this and go much further with it and have a similar attitude and style on everything else he does. it'd make sense if you found his statements more bothersome and something in a user you don't want to see because there's a noted consistency. but if there's any consistency you'd find in ayuyu it's... probably lack of experience.

i mean that or he's a sociopath who enjoys entertainment and daydreams a lot and will one day kill us all. but i'll go with the former. and if he dooms the world, i will personally wring his neck.

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I didn't read the whole topic, but I think a lot of the problem is that people like Sess, Ulti, etc, who used to be actual users seem to be devoted 100% to trolling now

Whether Ulti's a troll is up for debate, but he's always been a controversial user.

I remember Sess being a normal user way back, though. Don't know why he suddenly decided to become an over-the-top troll at one point.

calling people babies for not being able to watch a video of getting shot was pretty terrible, and then bragging about how he's seen much worse on the internet and everybody should

When was this?

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From: Robazoid | #191
I didn't read the whole topic, but I think a lot of the problem is that people like Sess, Ulti, etc, who used to be actual users seem to be devoted 100% to trolling now (in really predictable ways too, alpha/beta, Obama conspiracy theories, xmfd this post, damage control, etc), and the second they say anything in a topic the topic immediately becomes about whatever they said. Kind of kills discussion.
Yeah this is a bad thing too. People still treat them like the big dogs they might have been years ago, but now they're no better than BALLIN and should be ignored just like he should. No one will though.

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Sess is hilarious, don't see the problem with him at all

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From: SantaRPG | #092
Like if we could have one political topic where people remain civil to each other

The RP topic has been pretty civil and free of trolling, but that's because only like 4 people post there. If more people posted, of course there would be trolling.

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dude, political topics are awful everywhere, from real life to the internet

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XIII_rocks posted...

Sess is hilarious, don't see the problem with him at all

Look at the people talking bro. gmun, robazoid, etc...not exactly people I'm ever gonna give more than second of thought about

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