Board 8 > Games where you play as the antagonist, but a good guy (spoilers)

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Or at least the player is supposed to think he's a good guy but he's really not. The top 10 today reminded me of FFTA. Marche was such a dick.

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Um

That's not what an antagonist is.

Now if you are asking for games where you play as a villain...

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You know what I mean.

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I know a few but that would entail some spoilers. Defeats the purpose...

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Eh... God of War? I mean, Kratos isn't really the "good guy" but neither are Aries or Zeus.

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Theon_Greyjoy posted...
Or at least the player is supposed to think he's a good guy but he's really not. The top 10 today reminded me of FFTA. Marche was such a dick.

You didn't pay attention FFTAs storyline did you.

This is probably Spoilers






The queen and a part Mewt wanted Ivalice to stay in the state that it is in and Marche is trying to get it to its original form. This makes the queen decide to portray him as a bad guy (destroying the Crystal Guardians doesn't help either) and create a guy who cannot be harmed by anything to take Marche down. Neither is truly wrong: Marche wants to return home and Mewt wants to be a somebody with his father (the leader of the judges) and his mother (well the memory of his mother who is the queen).

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From my view Marche was still the bad guy. He wanted to destroy Mewt's world.

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Braid

Marche is basically the villain, yes.
Ibmarche pics.

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Oh yeah, for topic?
Contra 3.

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Does Metroid 2 count?

Literally genocide.

Silent Hill 2 ?

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Nobody's mentioned Braid?

From: wg64Z | #008
Braid

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Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne (If you get the right ending)

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Braid and Nocturne were the only two I could come up with and they've already been mentioned. Probably at least a few others though.

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KotOR?

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Some MegaTen games are like this, depending on your definition of "bad guy".

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The morality in Yggdra Union gets a bit murky by the end (though Yggdra eventually realizes it), and then there's Blaze Union.

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From: Theon_Greyjoy | #007
From my view Marche was still the bad guy. He wanted to destroy Mewt's world.

But....Mewt had already destroyed Marche's world. <_<

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Argh Marche is a villain people.


FFTA spoilers




Even if you ignore the entire theme of reality versus fantasy and the fact that Marche wanted to go home (and what makes his desire less important than Mewt's?), fact is, we see the schoolyard bullies in the real world as zombies in Ivalice. Their crimes of mocking the protagonists when the game starts aren't worthy of death; thus, Marche restoring the world saves multiple people at the cost of Mewt's happiness. That's not villainous.

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Anagram has the right idea. Marche is not a villain for wanting to return to a world where an immature brat doesn't get to enforce his will on people and people haven't been turned into monsters for no good reason.

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"If these crystals are destroyed, our world dies with them."
"So if if this world is destroyed, I get to go home, right?"
"What? Nobody said that. How should we know? All we know is that you'd destroy everything we know, and kill all of us."
"Eh. Good enough for me. Tell the other guys we're doing it to save the world or something. I need them to fight all the way into oblivion."

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Marche is most definitely a villain protagonist.

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Laharl/Etna??

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From: Theon_Greyjoy | #007
From my view Marche was still the bad guy. He wanted to destroy Mewt's world.

yeah well from my point of view the Jedi are evil

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Marche is and never was a Villain.

Just a Douche

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KingButz posted...
Marche is most definitely a villain protagonist.

No he isn't.

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if you are not with Marche

then you are Marche en-em-y

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mercenaries 3 LOL

Also, the first half of Persona 3.


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Gatarix posted...
mercenaries 3 LOL

xfd

And Marche is like the villain-hero.

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The Riddick games?

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I haven't played it, but isn't this the case for the second Golden Sun game?

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In the first game you chase down the second group and try to prevent them from lighting the lighthouses

In the second game you learn they actually have to be Lit, and eventually the first group joins you with the knowledge that they have to help light the towers - Not prevent it from happening.

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Link in Link's Awakening. He kind of had Marche's motivation, really. I mean, he was told directly what was going on and what was going to happen to the dream world

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guys, we joke about how marche is a villain for fun but people seem to be seriously suggesting it here

just remember that it is a joke

for fun

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maybe the 3 heroes of Suikoden III but that's open to interpretation and sort of poorly written and probably wasn't meant to be thought on

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I would say NIER sort of

Guy is awesome / great dad etc

then you get to the second ending / playthrough etc and figure out what is really going on

<shrug>

kind of weird but it somewhat fits the topic question

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