Board 8 > League of Legends Topic 41 - "I'll show them a watery grave!"

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SythaWarrior
04/25/12 4:02:00 PM
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I refuse this repeat topic title

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HanOfTheNekos
04/25/12 4:04:00 PM
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What is IP again?
IP is the other kind of points you earn when you play matches. You earn both XP and IP and IP are the points that you use to purchase runes and champions. Yes, that’s right, you have to "buy" the champions, but you get the points for free so its not a bad deal. (You can also spend real money on champion packs if you would rather not take the time to earn them) The point is that you get the IP for free so you should figure out which champions you are good with and spend it on those. When you buy a champion you will have it unlocked on your account forever. And if you don't buy ANY champions, you will still have access to 10 of them. Every week there are 10 "free" champions. But they are only free for the week and 10 different champions will be free the next week. And so if you are level 1 you still have 10 champions available to you and so try them out, figure out which one you might like to spend points on and then buy it.

And so IP is good for Champions and Runes. You can also spend *real money* to unlock champions but you can NOT unlock runes with real money, only IP and so runes have to be earned.

To sum up:
You have an account that goes up to level 30 (this is your summoner level)
You earn XP (to level up the account) and IP (to buy champions/runes) every time you play a match
You have rune pages (with up to 30 slots)
You have a mastery page to spec (with up to 30 points) (and you can respec as much as you want)

This is probably a bit over-kill and so if something doesn’t quite make sense just ask and someone will clarify. And if you are going to start playing please post:
(1) Your GameFAQs name
(2) Your Summoner name (this is different than your log-in name)
(3) Your preferred champions. It’s just nice to know which champions people prefer to play or use the most.

And please BOLD THE INFORMATION so we will see it and update the list accordingly. Or, you know, add it yourself.


Player List: http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/League_of_Legends

Remember: If you wish to see your player information updated, please bold the information so we will see it.

The list of titles we have used:

I'll show them a watery graves!
The mighty shark stalks his prey!
They are privileged to die at my feet!
Did you fall down and go boom?
Others try. I succeed.
You are in the deep end now!
This'll be a blast!
Next time, try to leave a dent.
You wanna play too? That'll be fun!
Hm, I suppose you were expecting an unbearable pun?
I love it when a plan comes together!
They have faced nothing like me.
I like my enemies two ways: dead, or about to be.
This is no challenge.
Learn from your mistakes.
Demacia. Now and Forever.
It is never ending.
Never underestimate the power of the Scout's code.
Our rage is beyond your control!
Ahhh... You sure you're not in the wrong league?
Die first, then we'll talk.
Do you wanna play? It'll be fun.
Take a good look. It's the last you're going to get!
If you want me to hit you less, die sooner.
Time To Feast!
Mundo's ABC's of success: Always Be Cleaving
Who wants a piece of the champ?!
C'mon, I'm not even holding the controls!
Only two jokers in the deck and I got dealt you.
Time to Feed!
Guess what's about to hit the fan.
I'm OP? Your MOM is OP!

You may post now!

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HanOfTheNekos
04/25/12 4:04:00 PM
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What is League of Legends?
League of Legends is a team game very similar to the WarCraft 3 custom map DotA. There are two bases, one on either side of the map and several "lanes" between the bases along which AI controlled units spawn. An overhead view of the 5v5 map looks about like this:
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There is a base in the bottom left, and a base in the top right. 3 lanes connect the two bases and every 30 seconds AI controlled "minions" spawn in each lane. Everyone who is in the game controls 1 "champion" unit and your job as a team is to push your lanes and destroy the opposing base. The lanes are protected by turrets and so you need your own minions along side you to be able to kill the turrets without getting targeted by them. 2 bases, 3 lanes, 5 players per team. There is also The Crystal Scar, the map currently used for the Dominion game mode. The Dominion overhead view looks like this:

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What are Champions?
Champions are the powerful units that you get to control. You pick 1 before the map loads and that is the champion you will use for that match. Champions start each match at level 1 their max level is 18. The important thing to consider is the stats of the champion you select will be affected by the level of your account.

What do 'account-levels' have to do with anything?
When you create an account you have a level 1 account. That is called your 'Summoner Level'. You are the summoner, and the champion you select for the match is the 'summoned'. You increase your summoner level by playing matches. Every match you play will earn you XP and IP. Earning enough XP will increase your summoner level with the max level being 30. Wins are worth more XP/IP than losses, so try to win. Your summoner level also determines:
(1) How many runes you can slot and
(2) How many mastery points you can allot

If you are low leveled still and playing by yourself then the game will try and pair you against similarly leveled opponents, but if you are playing with higher leveled friends then it will seek higher leveled opponents. Just something to consider when you start learning how to play.

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VincentLauw
04/25/12 4:11:00 PM
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From: KamikazePotato | #447
http://www.reignofgaming.net/news/20189-unofficial-patch-notes-from-newest-beta-realm

Talon:
Armor increased from 18.5 (+3.5 per level) to 20.5 (+3.5 per level)
Rake Mana Cost reduced from 60/65/70/75/80 Mana to 20/35/50/65/80 Mana.


Hell yeah




also this isn't true

it's actually to 50/55/60/65/70 I believe.

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WaIker
04/25/12 4:23:00 PM
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What Sytha said.

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Peace___Frog
04/25/12 4:32:00 PM
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tag

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EDumey
04/25/12 5:00:00 PM
#7:


How many games does it take for ELO to kind of settle into "where you're supposed to be"?

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HanOfTheNekos
04/25/12 5:12:00 PM
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I wasn't aware this topic title was used before.

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profDEADPOOL
04/25/12 6:46:00 PM
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I just had a game w/ one of those people who complains about everyone on his team being noobs and he said if we didn't report all of them he would start feeding us...Almost everyone called him out on the ELO putting him here with the supposed noobs.

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KommunistKoala
04/25/12 9:19:00 PM
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1280
197 wins, 197 losses

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Iubaris
04/25/12 9:31:00 PM
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Sick of losing so much =_=

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Forceful_Dragon
04/25/12 9:46:00 PM
#13:


use lolking.net if you want to look up someone's ranked stats on the fly.

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AfroSquirrel
04/25/12 10:00:00 PM
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Free week Shaco rushes Move5 Boots and Guardian Angel, then buys a Giant's Belt before the game ends.

what

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Forceful_Dragon
04/25/12 11:07:00 PM
#15:


Have we seen this yet:

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?

I know we've seen the item but have we seen the confirmed build tree to make it?


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WaIker
04/25/12 11:08:00 PM
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I know I saw the tree somewhere.

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KamikazePotato
04/25/12 11:25:00 PM
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That item looks kind of insane.

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Forceful_Dragon
04/25/12 11:35:00 PM
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Even if ALL it was was an item where you combine Chalice + AP and got a reasonable amount of AP per cost it would STILL be amazing.

But the fact that you get good AP cost and then SO MUCH MORE just puts it way over the top.

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HanOfTheNekos
04/26/12 12:02:00 AM
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What do you think about Athenes becoming core on most casters?

It provides an alternative to Abyssal Scepter. I feel like Void Staff was pretty much always a better choice than Abyssal, but I would grab the Abyssal as well for the MR. Grail provides MR, as well as very strong CDR and damn good AP.

It will certainly be core on champs like Anivia and Swain, and maybe even peeps like Karthus. And it also has great endgame potential for most other casters.

With most AP's, if I want CDR, I'll grab an early Kages and turn it into DFG later. With its nerf, I don't really see any reason to get it over Athenes unless you're having a really tough time getting gold (also, champs that are mad burst like Veigar and LB probably will stick with the DFG).


The way I see it, you build an early Chalice (which helps with mana and MR in lane), then finish your core build. Then you finish Grail, unless you need a Zhonyas or something.

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AfroSquirrel
04/26/12 12:26:00 AM
#20:


It'll definitely be nice for most. I'm excited for buffed Haunting Guise, though. AP + MPen + MS? Lux will be untouchable.

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AlphaRayAllen
04/26/12 6:58:00 AM
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Core on most casters is a stretch. Not every caster is as mana intensive as Swain, Anivia, or even Orianna.

I haven't played enough Gragas to say, but I think he gets more mileage out of stacking doran's and rushing deathcap than he would building a chalice, just because it helps his burst and survivability so much.

Then again, even the basic Chalice gives MR, and there's not a hell of a lot of physical damage being tossed around in mid lane.

Talon comeback?

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Gwindor
04/26/12 7:04:00 AM
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Someday we have to use Lux's "Stay Positive!" quote.

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VincentLauw
04/26/12 7:09:00 AM
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From: AlphaRayAllen | #021
Core on most casters is a stretch. Not every caster is as mana intensive as Swain, Anivia, or even Orianna.

I haven't played enough Gragas to say, but I think he gets more mileage out of stacking doran's and rushing deathcap than he would building a chalice, just because it helps his burst and survivability so much.

Then again, even the basic Chalice gives MR, and there's not a hell of a lot of physical damage being tossed around in mid lane.

Talon comeback?


I'd say almost every caster aside from like support Soraka and Ryze that I've ever played was pretty mana intensive.

It's definitely a viable (if not great for most) item for basically any AP that benefits from blue

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McBonesII
04/26/12 7:50:00 AM
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It gives players the option of rushing Athene's and becoming spam-happy. Even if some catsers aren't super mana-intensive (I'm thinking Ziggs), they would LOVE to have essentially a permanent blue buff. If Ziggs had no mana to worry about (which he really doesn't have a big mana issue if he's played smart anyway), it would just be bombs everywhere without even giving a crap, and I think that's what I plan to do. You can build yourself a blue buff without sacrificing too much AP.

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VincentLauw
04/26/12 7:54:00 AM
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yeah Ziggs seems like he will be a beast with this and he was a complete pubstomper already

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Lopen
04/26/12 8:09:00 AM
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I never run into mana issues with most casters I use. Not enough that that item is core, anyway. Like I could see getting it on Anivia, Karthus, and Swain certainly with their sustained abilities. Maybe Sona, Janna, Heimerdinger cause they can spam all their abilities a lot in poking teamfight situations. But I probably wouldn't use it on Lux (mana rarely seems an issue with her cooldowns), Leblanc (low mana costs/can't poke), Evelynn (low mana costs), Fiddlesticks (can't really spam his abilities), Orianna (low mana costs despite great poking), Xerath (see ori)-- could go on.

Yeah basically what I'm saying is a lot of ap champs have high enough cooldowns or low enough mana costs that mana is not a big deal. In laning it's a big deal because you're basically in a prolonged pokefest at all times even if you're not a champ with great pokes (which is why you give mid blue so often) but by the time you finish that thing lane is almost done. Has significantly less use in team fights. Keep in mind that Rod of Ages will functionally solve any mana problems most champs have for about the same price and give 800 hp which is generally going to be more useful than 40 mr for survivability.

It's a good item and very viable but it's not going to be another rabadon's deathcap or anything.

Maybe my perception is skewed given my love for mp regen/level runes though.

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Peace___Frog
04/26/12 8:39:00 AM
#27:


We're talking about DFG, Chalice, Tear, Morello's, and so on, but what about Lich Bane? It's very similar to Athene's with the AP, MR, and gives flat Mana instead of MRegen. I know LB is better for auto-attacking AP champs (Fizz, Nidalee, and uhhhh I dunno who else it's that great on), but I feel like Athene's outclasses LB, in addition to those other AP items.

And I agree with Lopen, I feel that RoA has much better late-game attributes than Athene's.

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Lopen
04/26/12 8:45:00 AM
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I don't really think Lich Bane is similar at all. I mean yeah if you compare the statlines they look that way but the AP/MR/Mana are the 3 lowest priorities on the item. All about that passive and the movespeed is probably the #2 for most characters that use it. The AP is good just because it's AP but the mana and mr might as well not be there most of the time because if those are your priorities there are much better sources for it.

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EDumey
04/26/12 8:51:00 AM
#29:


Is anyone else having problems getting into the shop? I was going to get some more runes, but all I get is a black screen.

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AfroSquirrel
04/26/12 9:07:00 AM
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So, I heard that Riot is revising the referral system or something?

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masterplum
04/26/12 12:51:00 PM
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From: AfroSquirrel | #030
So, I heard that Riot is revising the referral system or something?


I understand why they are doing it, but I don't know if I like it

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Peace___Frog
04/26/12 1:17:00 PM
#32:


It sounds like instead of a 5-win IP boost they're just giving flat IP instead. I think overall it amounts to less IP, but it's instant which is nice. And at 5 friends you get a free rune page? Yeah I'm switching over.

Oh wait, of the 4 people I've referred only 2 have hit 10. >_>

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Peace___Frog
04/26/12 1:18:00 PM
#33:


Bio's method (and his work with that method) are probably paying off now, though. A single rune page is worth 6300 IP, and only takes 5 friends to hit 10.

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profDEADPOOL
04/26/12 2:22:00 PM
#34:


At what ELO do people start jungling usually? No one seems to do at where I am.

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Forceful_Dragon
04/26/12 2:36:00 PM
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You are having RANKED games with no jungler?

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AlphaRayAllen
04/26/12 3:20:00 PM
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My method is actually really tedious now. The amount of time to level to 10 takes a lot longer than you'd think.

It's more efficient to do it the old fashioned way: convincing your friends to play.

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SpikeDragon
04/26/12 4:05:00 PM
#37:


Do they actually keep up with IP addresses and stuff like that when you "refer a friend"? Or could you theoretically make 5 accounts yourself and get them all to level 10 for the rewards?

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KamikazePotato
04/26/12 4:06:00 PM
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Akali is very fun, but her laning phase seems sort of brutal.

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MUKMASTER2
04/26/12 4:09:00 PM
#39:


SpikeDragon posted...
Do they actually keep up with IP addresses and stuff like that when you "refer a friend"? Or could you theoretically make 5 accounts yourself and get them all to level 10 for the rewards?

No, they don't keep track. In the old system, it was 10 friends to level 5 for 975 RP, and I did that. Absolutely no way I'm going to do it in the new system, level 10 would take way too long.

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SpeedYoshi
04/26/12 4:40:00 PM
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From: MUKMASTER2 | #039
SpikeDragon posted...
Do they actually keep up with IP addresses and stuff like that when you "refer a friend"? Or could you theoretically make 5 accounts yourself and get them all to level 10 for the rewards?

No, they don't keep track. In the old system, it was 10 friends to level 5 for 975 RP, and I did that. Absolutely no way I'm going to do it in the new system, level 10 would take way too long.


but you're halfway there with 5 at level 5!

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Forceful_Dragon
04/26/12 4:45:00 PM
#41:


Zazi filled up for team MIA so we could get some normal practice in (so I could Hec and red could Vik)

Many lulz were had and 2 games were won.



Also/Red FD DuoQ incoming:
http://www.twitch.tv/red13n

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TheConductorSix
04/26/12 4:46:00 PM
#42:


re-downloading the game.

see you guys in a couple hours.

600 IP from JARVAN THE MUTHA F'ING 4th!

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AlphaRayAllen
04/26/12 5:21:00 PM
#43:


From: SpeedYoshi | #040
but you're halfway there with 5 at level 5!


EXP requirements to level up increase exponentially between 5 and 10.

You could level several accounts to 5 before you hit 10 on one of them.

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AlphaRayAllen
04/26/12 5:23:00 PM
#44:


Also

>Spend RP on Amethyst Ashe because hey, no Cass
>Cass goes on sale the next day

F*** that.

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profDEADPOOL
04/26/12 6:47:00 PM
#45:


From: Forceful_Dragon | #035
You are having RANKED games with no jungler?


No normal. I am not nearly good enough for ranked. Plus I want to get Flash before I even think about ranked.

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Forceful_Dragon
04/26/12 6:48:00 PM
#46:


well you mentioned ELO, but w/e

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Forceful_Dragon
04/26/12 6:48:00 PM
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BTW red is afk probably doing puppy related activities.

DuoQ will continue as soon as he's done.

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SpeedYoshi
04/26/12 6:49:00 PM
#48:


From: profDEADPOOL | #045
No normal. I am not nearly good enough for ranked. Plus I want to get Flash before I even think about ranked.


uh, you won't be seeing regular junglers for a long, long time if you don't even have Flash yet

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Forceful_Dragon
04/26/12 6:59:00 PM
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From: Forceful_Dragon | #047
BTW red is afk probably doing puppy related activities.

DuoQ will continue as soon as he's done.


DuoQ is now commencing.

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Peace___Frog
04/26/12 7:58:00 PM
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and you can't do ranked until level 30, anyway

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