Board 8 > League of Legends Topic 41 - "I'll show them a watery grave!"

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Gwindor
05/05/12 6:41:00 PM
#451:


Due to an unfixed bug, when viewing a match history that contains a Void Staff, the item will appear blue instead of the usual red.

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Void_Staff

Interesting.

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X_Dante_X
05/05/12 6:44:00 PM
#452:


Interesting!

also, why did alistar not use smite when he was about to die to blue golem

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SpikeDragon
05/05/12 7:01:00 PM
#453:


Hey red, in the game that you're playing right now (you on Kog with FD as support Kayle), I noticed that you built Phantom Dancer first instead of Infinity Edge. Was that a situational decision, or what was the reason behind that?

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Forceful_Dragon
05/05/12 7:08:00 PM
#454:


1) so I can run from vayne
2) so I can chase vayne


Situational purpose. (I asked him on vent and thats what he said)

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AlphaRayAllen
05/05/12 7:10:00 PM
#455:


I assume he wouldn't do that on other carries since Kog can get away with a PD rush.

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KamikazePotato
05/05/12 7:14:00 PM
#456:


Kog'Maw is one of the few (probably the only) AD carry that can rush Phantom Dancer due to his insane skills.

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SpikeDragon
05/05/12 7:15:00 PM
#457:


That's something that's good to know! So what situations (aside from laning against Vayne, I guess) would a Phanton Dancer be better to start with than an Infinity Edge?

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ZaziGuado
05/05/12 7:41:00 PM
#458:


Hey, the next person who makes the topic should put information on joining and autologging into the Board 8 channel. It makes it pretty easy to gather groups together for games and saves time in the dreaded solo queue.

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Forceful_Dragon
05/05/12 7:56:00 PM
#459:


And now we're 3-3 so far. DuoQ is continuing.

Loss ~ Kayle ~ 2-5-8 (2.00) [-13] 1873 [45]
Loss ~ Rumble ~ 1-9-5 (0.67) [-12] 1861 [45]


Kayle game = our nasus afk'd for 10 minutes even though we were moutning a comeback.

Rumble game = the guy who was supposed to swap went afk. Yeah...

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AlphaRayAllen
05/05/12 8:03:00 PM
#460:


Ask KP why he totally ignored a baron attempt as our jungler and led the enemy team right to it.

Get told to go f*** myself and that I'm a stupid a******.

Like, really? I get mad, but I never take it to such a level.

I wouldn't send me invites for a long time, bro.

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masterplum
05/05/12 8:09:00 PM
#461:


From: ZaziGuado | #458
Hey, the next person who makes the topic should put information on joining and autologging into the Board 8 channel. It makes it pretty easy to gather groups together for games and saves time in the dreaded solo queue.


you can do that?

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ZaziGuado
05/05/12 8:19:00 PM
#462:


Yup! On your sidebar, there's a chat rooms option. You can choose to join a custom chat room. Just type in "board 8" and it will put you in there. Then in your options menu (the gear thing in the corner of the chat room, I believe), you can set the option to autojoin.

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KamikazePotato
05/05/12 8:44:00 PM
#463:


You get what you deserve, Biolizard. You're lucky people send you invites period. You telling me not to send anymore is basically Christmas morning.

And if you had more than the map awareness of an insect, you'd realize what was actually going on there (hint: the enemy team was already going towards you guys) as well as several other instances where you had no idea what was going on (walking away from an enemy attacking me when we're in the same screen).

And by the way, I had no idea you guys were doing Baron because 1. It was a stupid ideas 2. My game was glitching out horrifically at the time and I lost the ability to see allied pings, among many other things going on.

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TheConductorSix
05/05/12 8:57:00 PM
#464:


KP,

I think the point here is not "Why you didn't come to dragon", but more "Why the hell do you take it to such a level with another Board 8er".

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Iubaris
05/05/12 9:08:00 PM
#465:


Just won my first three ranked games! :D

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Achromatic
05/05/12 9:11:00 PM
#466:


From: KamikazePotato | #463
You get what you deserve, Biolizard. You're lucky people send you invites period. You telling me not to send anymore is basically Christmas morning.

And if you had more than the map awareness of an insect, you'd realize what was actually going on there (hint: the enemy team was already going towards you guys) as well as several other instances where you had no idea what was going on (walking away from an enemy attacking me when we're in the same screen).

And by the way, I had no idea you guys were doing Baron because 1. It was a stupid ideas 2. My game was glitching out horrifically at the time and I lost the ability to see allied pings, among many other things going on.


I found the bold funny.


Not ever one to leap to Bio's defense but uh the rule of thumb is if your team is doing something as a unit and you aren't there, you are automatically in the wrong. Yes their decision may be bad but you make the situation hopeless by making it five on four.

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AlphaRayAllen
05/05/12 9:31:00 PM
#467:


Do you really think that I wouldn't expect opposition at a Baron attempt? I warded every passage they were likely to come through and we would have been ready for them if they tried to stop us. You decided to hang out in the brush next to their wolves for some reason, when the rest of the team was already starting on Baron. Three enemies started chasing you and you made a beeline for the rest of us, which wasn't necessarily the wrong thing to do, but it shouldn't have happened in the first place. And really, if the entire team is grouped up in the baron pit, what do you think we were doing?

And to respond with such venom to a criticism is really poor form. Yeah, I could have been nicer about it, but I really shouldn't have to be. I asked a legitimate question and you just ripped into me like I'm the scum of the earth.

I really don't know what else there is to say.

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Achromatic
05/05/12 9:50:00 PM
#468:


Well not to be the downer but both of you have major attitude problems, in general, when it comes to League. Bio you aren't self-aware enough but in this instance you aren't being very jerky or anything and I just dressed you down for that so there isn't much to say.

But KP wow man I am usually willing to let stuff go because we are all board 8ers and I try to be as polite as possible but uh since you want to use your false sense of superiority to try to take a shot at someone else let me be the one to newsflash you: You aren't very good at this game. You are in that phase where you are good enough to be better than the complete trash and bad enough to not realize that what you are doing isn't very impressive.

Like the other day I, a person who is literally ten times the bottom laner you are at the moment and would stomp you into the bloody god damn ground, gave you advice and you shrugged and acted as if I just didn't understand for the most part. I understand that lane way, way better than you do. In fact I also understand this game in general way, way better than you. A lot of people here do.

I know it is Bio and and all but holy hell get off your high horse it will make you both a better player and a better team mate for your fellow board 8ers because I don't care as long as Bio didn't mug your mother he didn't deserve the crap you just spewed at him. It was reactionary, it was out of frustration, and that is really just not acceptable on the boards. Hell even I, a person with a legendary temper, try my best to limit it to me bashing someone for their ability and not telling them "you get what they deserve" holy hell KP what is wrong with you.

By the way I don't say any of this to put you down or raise me up. I want you to become better, and I want everyone to treat each other just a little better than what you just did. I understand frustration and I understand critique but there has to be a line somewhere.


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Forceful_Dragon
05/05/12 9:57:00 PM
#469:


We're done playing for now to watch the fighting game streams. We went 5-4 today. +17 ELO

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AfroSquirrel
05/05/12 10:15:00 PM
#470:


When I get to 30, the big reward will be dispensing TRIBUNAL JUSTICE. This ranked play gets too serious.

Also, what does ARAM mean? From context, it seems like All Random All Mid?

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Forceful_Dragon
05/05/12 10:15:00 PM
#471:


yeah. Its something people will do in custom games sometimes. Pretty frivolous imo =P

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KamikazePotato
05/05/12 10:16:00 PM
#472:


Yeah news flash Chris: I know I'm not that great at this game. That's not what I care about. You and me seem to have completely different ideas of what it is okay to bash someone for. I don't care if someone is doing badly at the game. I'm not going to b**** them out for it, which for some ungodly reason you think is okay. People who complain, people who ruin the game for everyone else with their comments. Those are the people I don't like, and those are the people I will speak my mind to.

And no, I don't do those things to people who keep quiet. But if you open your mouth, you've opened the door. That's my policy. People like you, Biolizard, and some others here on B8 are the ones that I don't mind insulting. Because you have absolutely no concept of the difference between a critique and an insult. There are comments said to make someone get better at the game and there are comments made to make yourself feel better. You do the latter.

With Biolizard in that match, he had moaned about several things in the match already, some of which were his fault. Maybe I wouldn't have gone off so quickly on another person, but I've dealt with Biolizard far too often in the past to be patient with him.

P.S. Before you type up a response that amounts to 'you're misinterpreting my comments', I just don't believe you when you say you're just trying to help people get better. Sorry if that offends you but I simply don't.

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Achromatic
05/05/12 10:21:00 PM
#473:


Okay then I'll just ignore you, remove you from my friends list, and never speak to you again. I don't need to waste my time on people (not players, people) like you.

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KamikazePotato
05/05/12 10:23:00 PM
#474:


Okay, cool. Good to know that you're basically what I expected - someone who's willing to dish out personal criticism but flips out whenever someone dishes it back. Saves me a lot of trouble.

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Forceful_Dragon
05/05/12 10:29:00 PM
#475:


I can confirm that chris is "just trying to help people get better".

It is however in chris' nature to be much more frank than someone like myself tends to be, but his intent at least is good.

Ant there are numerous players who I'm sure would be willing to confirm that I also try to help people improve, I just happen to do it in a much more mildly reactive way.



Basically when chris says

From: Achromatic | #468
You aren't very good at this game.


He didn't just mean you have to realize that 'there are better people than me'. It more closely means that you have to realize that there are legitimately a LOT of aspects of this game that go over your head and you actively seek out the knowledge that you lack to make up for this. Even at my level I have to take a similar approach. There is something that the consistent 2k ELO players know that I currently have not mastered and I'm going to stay where I'm at until I make the necessary adjustments.

Even Chris realizes that there is a lot he doesn't know. Chris for example has been working on jungling lately from time to time in ranked. As a jungler main there are a lot of things I just innately know about how the jungle "works". From timings down to simply just knowing which lanes I need to pay more attention to. Chris would make a mistake related to some aspect of jungling that I would just take for granted, I would say "oh you didn't do XXXX? Well you should do XXXX in this situation in the future because of YYYY." And chris would say "oh okay, that makes sense" and go from there.



He might be more 'in your face' about mistakes and less tolerant than others, but he DOES want other B8 players to improve and he DOES walk the walk himself.

Just my 2 cents on the matter I guess.




And i typed ^^this^^ up before your last exchange -___-''

Why can't we all just get along lol?

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Iubaris
05/05/12 10:45:00 PM
#476:


I think you should all shut the hell up and take it to private messages if you really want to argue.

In other news, lost a game to end my ranked stats at 4-1. Not bad for the first day.

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Forceful_Dragon
05/05/12 10:46:00 PM
#477:


Grats Iub! Those first placement games are so important to win since they are worth so much ELO. Keep it up ^_^

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MUKMASTER2
05/05/12 10:50:00 PM
#478:


I remember Chris was really frustrated with me in an inhouse once, because I had no idea what I was doing as Taric and I'd kept screwing Chris over in different ways.
I like to think I've marginally improved since then, and it's only a 50/50 chance I screw Chris over now.

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ZaziGuado
05/05/12 11:06:00 PM
#479:


Chris forced me into a training session where I was Ryze and had to last hit. Every three misses, his Ashe would come from the brush and kill me.

I died a lot. Almost a year later, I still would, but not as much. Improvement is possible!

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Iubaris
05/05/12 11:11:00 PM
#480:


From: Forceful_Dragon | #477
Grats Iub! Those first placement games are so important to win since they are worth so much ELO. Keep it up ^_^


Thanks, bro. :3 I'm still at the Elo where people are worst than in my normal blind pick games, so it's... interesting. And by that I mean frustrating.

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Forceful_Dragon
05/05/12 11:11:00 PM
#481:


From: ZaziGuado | #479
Every three misses, his Ashe would come from the brush and kill me.


XD

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Forceful_Dragon
05/05/12 11:33:00 PM
#482:


New topic up, yay ^_^

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/62734229

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SpikeDragon
05/05/12 11:54:00 PM
#483:


To help try to speak for Bio and KP, I just think that some people are more thick-skinned than others, honestly. I'm well aware of the fact that Chris and realo say what they say because they're trying to help me improve, but the way they give their "criticism" gets to me at times, especially because I'm not thick-skinned at all, and since I haven't been playing for very long, I make A LOT of mistakes.

I'm probably around the same skill level that KP and Bio are at right now, if not lower. Thus, I am prone to make way more mistakes than people who are better than me (and you don't even have to be that much better than me to see the mistakes I make). I think it's the way that people criticize that makes a critique tolerable or intolerable for us that are.

Maybe it's stupid, but I've noticed it with myself. When FD gives me criticism, he likes to point out the things I did right and the things I did wrong. I remember a game where I was top lane as Renekton, and FD approached me after the game and told me about how good a job I did farming against Shyvana (which I was quite proud of at the time because I was still summoner level 23 and just barely starting the game, and the Shyvana was level 30). He also told me about how my build should've had a bit more magic resistance because of how AP heavy the enemy team was. I actually kinda wish I played with FD more because I think that his criticism is a lot easier to take than most others.

I've played with Sytha a lot, and when I make a serious mistake, he shoots me a one-liner over vent, and the tone in his voice makes it sounds like he's upset with me, and I just kinda shut up and give him space. I don't want to make it worse.

Then there's realo, where he's extremely blunt with his criticism. The more mistakes I make, the more he "critiques" my playstyle, and it just escalates more and more from the "Spike don't let the creeps push to the turret" to "SPIKE ATTACK HIM YOU HAVE MORE DAMAGE THAN HE DOES" and that just frustrates me, and in a particular game where this happens, I notice that it makes me play worse than I originally was.

In any case, I know there's a lot of things that I need to improve on, and in retrospect, I know that everyone says what they do to help me. And I want to improve. I'm actually gonna play ranked on my alt once it hits 30 because I wanna get my ass handed to me to (hopefully) get me to improve. It's just a matter of how the advice is given that affects players that are kinda soft like myself. It's not anyone's fault but my own that I'm so easily offended, but that's just what I've realized.

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SpikeDragon
05/05/12 11:56:00 PM
#484:


That post might be a little after the fact, but I just wanted to throw in my two cents. Heh.

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Achromatic
05/05/12 11:59:00 PM
#485:


Speed the reason FD does it this way is because of how above us he is at this game. Unless I am spectating you I don't have the skill to tell you things you did right.

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Forceful_Dragon
05/06/12 12:24:00 AM
#486:


*blushes* >_>


But I think the reason my critiques feel softer is I will almost always include the justification.



Instead of "Don't build THAT, that's a horrible item" I like to say "against their team you probably want to build this item because of..."

That way you can learn how to make those same types of decisions for yourself, I guess?

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Robazoid
05/06/12 12:27:00 AM
#487:


Man I don't think I should ever play with you guys. I can't even last kill with any consistency.

woo my update finished, time to see if I still lose to bots

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ZaziGuado
05/06/12 12:29:00 AM
#488:


Psh. FD is just an elitist douche and expects everything everyone does to be bad and wrong. When he is telling you what you did correct, he is just expressing his surprise at you not throwing the game.

What a jerk.

Of course, I get off on surpassing expectations, so I love it.

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Robazoid
05/06/12 12:40:00 AM
#489:


I forget how chat rooms work

If I post something dumb in the B8 chatroom it won't distract you guys who are in games will it?

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ZaziGuado
05/06/12 1:03:00 AM
#490:


Nope. Not at all.

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Forceful_Dragon
05/06/12 1:04:00 AM
#491:


you can't see the client while you are in a game. LoLclient.exe minimizes and leagueoflegends.exe opens which is the game itself.

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Robazoid
05/06/12 1:05:00 AM
#492:


Ok cool.

Well I'm Adrianna Forge, if you're ever wondering who the random person that joined the chatroom is.

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McBonesII
05/06/12 5:07:00 PM
#493:


i used to join the chat but it's usually everyone just idling

i'll set it back to autojoin though

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