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Ayuyu 04/03/12 3:41:00 PM #1: |
http://www.examiner.com/gadgets-in-national/arizona-wants-to-make-internet-trolling-illegal
lol Arizona. -- http://img.imgcake.com/cosplaygifer.gif http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TORtanic ... Copied to Clipboard!
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OctilIery 04/03/12 3:42:00 PM #2: |
Too bad they can't as the law would be unconstitutional.
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Anagram 04/03/12 3:43:00 PM #3: |
Dammit I was about to post this topic.
Anyway yes, Arizona continues to be a joke state. -- Not changing this sig until I decide to change this sig. Started: July 6, 2005 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Inviso 04/03/12 3:43:00 PM #4: |
they mad
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Ace_Killjoy 04/03/12 3:43:00 PM #5: |
But their scenery is nice.
It's not even possible to effectively enforce this kind of thing, is it? -- Proud member of the Global Defence Force. http://img.imgcake.com/AlecTrevylan006/AceKilljoyShieldpngyp.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SlymDayspring 04/03/12 3:44:00 PM #6: |
I would argue in favor of this, but that would be illegal in arizona.
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Emporer_Kazbar 04/03/12 3:44:00 PM #7: |
Oh yeah, I see this working.
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Kenri 04/03/12 4:20:00 PM #8: |
That article's pretty bad and doesn't really say... anything... about what the law would actually do, but going to Kotaku's article reveals this:
"It is unlawful for any person, with intent to terrify, intimidate, threaten, harass, annoy or offend, to use a ANY ELECTRONIC OR DIGITAL DEVICE and use any obscene, lewd or profane language or suggest any lewd or lascivious act, or threaten to inflict physical harm to the person or property of any person." Which isn't nearly as bad as "Arizona bans all trolling!!!" I mean, I don't think you'd have much luck arguing it should be illegal to annoy or offend people. On the other hand, terrifying, intimidating, or threatening someone is probably a thing that should be illegal regardless of whether you do it over the phone, over the internet, or in person. I also have to imagine that 99% of the cases they're envisioning involve two people who know each other in real life, and not SSJGokuroth trolling some Pokemon forum. It's still pretty dumb and worded way too vaguely though. -- "The courtroom is the garden of holy judgment. Those with lechery in their hearts should leave this sanctuary at once!" ~Franziska von Karma ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Theon_Greyjoy 04/03/12 4:23:00 PM #9: |
I look forward to someone getting arrested for trolling in Europe, and XIII and ngirl trying to justify it.
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Azp2k32 04/03/12 4:23:00 PM #10: |
does that make it illegal to link anri to a picture of a spider without telling him it's a spider
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XIII_rocks 04/03/12 4:25:00 PM #12: |
So wait, has Arizona basically been trolled THAT much
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JDTAY 04/03/12 4:26:00 PM #13: |
I'm against this, but still support the development of technology that will allow me to punch people through the internet. I trust my judgment more than the government's.
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KimPine 04/03/12 4:31:00 PM #14: |
They gon get trolled.
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Solfadore 04/03/12 4:34:00 PM #15: |
A. It is unlawful for any person, with intent to terrify, intimidate, threaten, harass, annoy or offend, to use any electronic or digital device and use any obscene, lewd or profane language or suggest any lewd or lascivious act, or threaten to inflict physical harm to the person or property of any person. It is also unlawful to otherwise disturb by repeated anonymous electronic or digital communications the peace, quiet or right of privacy of any person at the place where the communications were received. Well, guys, I hope you don't offend anyone from Arizona in the near future. Because you would then have committed a crime in Arizona. This is such a great piece of legislation. Addendum: in responding to my comments, I would suggest that you not disturb my peace and quiet through repeated (read: more than one) posts. That will be all. -- When you have nothing to say, quote yourself ~ Solfadore ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MarvelousGerbil 04/03/12 4:35:00 PM #16: |
XD What happened, did a lawmaker try to talk about religion on Reddit or something?
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UnderUrMattress 04/03/12 4:37:00 PM #17: |
LMFAO
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Kotetsu534 04/03/12 4:39:00 PM #18: |
That's some wide drafting.
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Liquid Wind 04/04/12 3:55:00 AM #19: |
"what're you in for?"
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_SecretSquirrel 04/04/12 4:22:00 AM #20: |
From: MarvelousGerbil | #016 That would require an Arizona lawmaker to know what a Reddit is. -- Agent Triple Zero at your service! The artist formerly known as greatone10. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SlymDayspring 04/04/12 4:26:00 AM #21: |
look on the bright side guys
westboro baptist church's website would definitely be illegal under this law -- I'm "kind of a big deal". http://img.imgcake.com/cyclo/Cyclopngegpngre.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MarvelousGerbil 04/04/12 7:07:00 AM #22: |
From: _SecretSquirrel | #020 Someone else could have trolled him. Like an intern or someone saying "Here's this forum I look at to discuss politics and religion" -- http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0w5gaZ9I51r5z4sho3_250.gif?tti ... Copied to Clipboard!
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OmarsComin 04/04/12 7:12:00 AM #23: |
maybe he is maplejet and this is his revenge on us
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Dark Young Link 04/04/12 7:14:00 AM #24: |
I'd support the cause if
1.It wouldn't be abused/taken too far in some way(it would) 2. If it was enforceable in any way. -- http://img.imgcake.com/AlecTrevylan006/darkyounglinkshieldpngyg.png Sleep? F*** sleep, Toonami is on!!- GenesisSaga ... Copied to Clipboard!
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OmarsComin 04/04/12 7:16:00 AM #25: |
I would never support it in any way
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kevwaffles 04/04/12 7:19:00 AM #26: |
From: UltimaterializerX | #011 Nah, that only applies if you can tangentially link the law to terrorism, or there is a business backing it. Random laws from random lawmakers still get shot down. Well, at least in most of America. This is Arizona, after all. -- "One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land." -Toad, SMB3 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mr Lasastryke 04/04/12 7:29:00 AM #27: |
I'm in favor of limiting trolling. The problem with our site's ToU is that it's too vague and enforced poorly a lot of the time, but in principle I like the site having a ToU.
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masterplum 04/04/12 7:32:00 AM #28: |
I don't understand how any of you guys have ever been trolled hard enough that you would want to make it illegal. I have never been in a situation where I couldn't just turn off the computer and walk away >_>
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muddersmilk 04/04/12 7:32:00 AM #29: |
Azp2k32 posted...
does that make it illegal to link anri to a picture of a spider without telling him it's a spider Intent to terrify. And then of course you would be strip searched upon your arrest. -- (Maniac64 at work) All the proteins, vitamins, and carbs of your grandma's best turkey dinner, plus 15% alcohol. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dark Young Link 04/04/12 7:41:00 AM #30: |
masterplum posted...
I don't understand how any of you guys have ever been trolled hard enough that you would want to make it illegal. I have never been in a situation where I couldn't just turn off the computer and walk away >_> It's pretty much bullying. Lighthearted trolling is fine, but some people take it too far. I'm against anyone mistreating someone unfairly, especially people who have problems in the first place. -- http://img.imgcake.com/AlecTrevylan006/darkyounglinkshieldpngyg.png Sleep? F*** sleep, Toonami is on!!- GenesisSaga ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mr Lasastryke 04/04/12 7:44:00 AM #31: |
It's pretty much bullying. Lighthearted trolling is fine, but some people take it too far. I'm against anyone mistreating someone unfairly, especially people who have problems in the first place.
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SlymDayspring 04/04/12 7:46:00 AM #32: |
to be fair, this is probably made by old people who don't get the internet and all they know is that they see a lot of kids killing themselves over internet bullying on the news. generally old people have no problem regulating anything "for the children".
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Ayuyu 04/04/12 7:49:00 AM #33: |
From: Dark Young Link | #030 If you take any kind of trolling seriously you have a problem. Why the hell should you care about what some random joe you'll never meet ever says? -- http://img.imgcake.com/cosplaygifer.gif http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TORtanic ... Copied to Clipboard!
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__Smurf__ 04/04/12 7:50:00 AM #34: |
Would make for uncomfortable cell talk
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MarvelousGerbil 04/04/12 8:00:00 AM #35: |
From: Ayuyu | #033 What if you only really troll your friends? -- http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0w5gaZ9I51r5z4sho3_250.gif?tti ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dark Young Link 04/04/12 8:08:00 AM #36: |
Ayuyu posted...
From: Dark Young Link | #030 masterplum posted... I don't understand how any of you guys have ever been trolled hard enough that you would want to make it illegal. I have never been in a situation where I couldn't just turn off the computer and walk away >_> It's pretty much bullying. Lighthearted trolling is fine, but some people take it too far. I'm against anyone mistreating someone unfairly, especially people who have problems in the first place. If you take any kind of trolling seriously you have a problem. Why the hell should you care about what some random joe you'll never meet ever says? Exactly. I don't want people driving troubled people into killing themselves just because they can't stop being dicks for 5 minutes. But yeah, I already know very well Arizona is being silly. -- http://img.imgcake.com/AlecTrevylan006/darkyounglinkshieldpngyg.png Sleep? F*** sleep, Toonami is on!!- GenesisSaga ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_Carlemagne_ 04/04/12 8:22:00 AM #38: |
Online bullying rarely goes that far, and in the couple of huge cases I know about that it did (Jessi Slaughter and Megan Meier) both girls had severe problems before anything happened. While I dislike major trolling for the most part, I'm not sure where in the law it says you're required to be nice. People don't go to jail for being jerks. If you didn't know, Jessi Slaughter is the "you dun goofed" youtube girl (that meme turned into a really sad story btw.) and Megan Meier is the girl who killed herself over a "friends" moms fake myspace profile. In fact, if I'm not mistaken, her suicide led to many poorly written and hastily made bills... probably much like the one Arizona is trying to pass.
Seriously, if people could write like death notes through email I'm sure there'd be a lot more cases of this going around. Anyways, another major problem is that law makers are trying to apply real world law to the internet, which does not work. If it's just trolling, it's not even a real law. Even honesty is not required by law all the time outside the internet, so why should someone internet trolling (dishonest or honest) be punished? -- Chrono1219 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dark Young Link 04/04/12 9:17:00 AM #39: |
UltimaterializerX posted...
By the way. I told you people this anti-bullying push would lead to crap like this. No matter what anyone says, so long as they don't call for violence they have a first amendment. You either defend free speech or everyone loses it. First Amendment doesn't really apply due to ToS, etc. But yeah pretty much this. The bad kind of free speech(hate speech for example) beats no one being allowed to speak their mind. Something should be done but oh man, talk abou misguided.... _Carlemagne_ posted... Online bullying rarely goes that far, and in the couple of huge cases I know about that it did (Jessi Slaughter and Megan Meier) both girls had severe problems before anything happened. While I dislike major trolling for the most part, I'm not sure where in the law it says you're required to be nice. People don't go to jail for being jerks. If you didn't know, Jessi Slaughter is the "you dun goofed" youtube girl (that meme turned into a really sad story btw.) and Megan Meier is the girl who killed herself over a "friends" moms fake myspace profile. In fact, if I'm not mistaken, her suicide led to many poorly written and hastily made bills... probably much like the one Arizona is trying to pass. Seriously, if people could write like death notes through email I'm sure there'd be a lot more cases of this going around. Anyways, another major problem is that law makers are trying to apply real world law to the internet, which does not work. If it's just trolling, it's not even a real law. Even honesty is not required by law all the time outside the internet, so why should someone internet trolling (dishonest or honest) be punished? That mom IS still in jail right? Because I remember reading that and was unable to see her as anything other than a monster. But yeah, blame people like that for all of this ****. The funny thing is that most trolls think they're not doing any harm or even better think they're some sort of "defender of freedom", but their actions are now causing stuff like this to happen. Truth be told, trolling won't stop. It's just The Law's turn to troll. -- http://img.imgcake.com/AlecTrevylan006/darkyounglinkshieldpngyg.png Sleep? F*** sleep, Toonami is on!!- GenesisSaga ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kinglicious 04/04/12 9:40:00 AM #40: |
Pretty sure this bill is illegal by its own wording, so it should be hilarious.
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KingButz 04/04/12 9:41:00 AM #41: |
Internet "bullying" is a joke. The only reason that bullying happens IRL is that it is unavoidable. The person being bullied is unable to avoid those bullying him(lives in close proximity to the bully or attends the same school), or he would. Internet "bullying" on the other hand is easily avoided. It's called don't go online lol
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LordoftheMorons 04/04/12 10:06:00 AM #42: |
Arizona continues to be a joke
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Anagram 04/04/12 10:34:00 AM #43: |
It's honestly a little difficult to tell if Arizona or Florida is the worse joke state.
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