Board 8 > Will Fantasy Fantasy games ever return to FFVII-X quality?

(+) Yeah! (+)

X-2 had fun gameplay, but the rest of the game was pretty underwhelming.
And reviews of FFXII and FFXIII have kept me away from them. I even own Final Fantasy XII and still have never gotten around to giving it a try.

Also, there's something about having the turn-based thing in Final Fantasy rather than action-oriented that's just more charming.

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you should probably try 12 and 13 before saying such things

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This topic is a response to watching my fiancee play through all of Final Fantasy X and now through Final Fantasy IX. She loves them to death and really enjoys the RPG-style, loves how charming yet emotional the stories are, and enjoys how it's not as stressful to actually play as other games.

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No.

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Would you say FFXII or FFXIII are as good as VII-X?

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**** no

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Tornadoman78:
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I thought XIII was good, not great, not bad

...but I still think I like VIII better, and I didn't like that one too much (though I don't think it deserves the hate it gets)

XII was horrendously awful

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FF XIII-2 was actually really good.

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futuresuperstar posted...
Would you say FFXII or FFXIII are as good as VII-X?

Definitely not for XII. I like FFXIII more than VII and maybe more than VIII and IX, but I haven't played VIII and IX in about a decade.

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You mean IV-X? Doubt it. :(

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XII is the best FF not called Tactics.

You heard me.

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The thing that gives me hope is that XII and XIII were never trying to copy previous final fantasys, they were trying things in their own right that were mostly new and different. They didn't quite work as well as they'd like but I couldn't call the franchise down and out either. If they were making poor mans FFVII's that'd be a sure sign of unrepairable trouble but they've got the ideas and creativity, they just aren't working.

What would worry me is the existence of FFXIII-2, rather than sticking to their guns and insisting on the merits of linearity they've seemingly accepted the grave mistakes they've made and pandered to their audiences criticism. Not that I'd agree with them if they did hold their ground but better be captain of a ship off course steering everyone safely to the wrong place than in charge of a sinking vessel on the correct route.

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if square completely crashes and burns but doesn't go out of business, just comes very close, maybe. as it is now? after sakaguchi left the marketing heads started acting as shadow directors, they will never make a good game under those circumstances.

I don't know if this topic implies the 8/16-bit games were bad or not.

If so it's the worst topic ever.

FF1-6 >>>> FF7-13

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Liquid Wind posted...
if square completely crashes and burns but doesn't go out of business, just comes very close, maybe. as it is now? after sakaguchi left the marketing heads started acting as shadow directors, they will never make a good game under those circumstances.

Is there direct evidence of this?

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Is there direct evidence of this?

Well FFXIII is my favorite...
So.
Yes?

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From: Ayuyu | #014
I don't know if this topic implies the 8/16-bit games were bad or not.

The generally accepted golden age is VI - X, you could add IV in there but the badness of V breaks it up.

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From: Ayuyu | #014
I don't know if this topic implies the 8/16-bit games were bad or not.

The generally accepted golden age is VI - X, you could add IV in there but the badness of V breaks it up.

This is what Smurf actually believes.

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it is

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FF7/9 quality? At this rate, No.

FF8 quality? Yes

FFX quality? They've been averaging this for a while, now.

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From: redrocket | #059
This is what Smurf actually believes.

Umm, he's right in this case.

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From: baron von toast | #011
XII is the best FF not called Tactics.

You heard me.

I wholeheartedly agree with this man.

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FFV is a good game though...
V > IV
Innovative at the time buys you nothing 21 years later.

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Djungelurban posted...
FFV is a good game though...
V > IV
Innovative at the time buys you nothing 21 years later.

job system(innovative at the time) is the only thing FFV had going for it, and then FFT did it way way better.

Nah, I actually prefer the story in FFV over FFIV... IV suffers from just being too damn horribly cliche...

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12, 13 and 13-2 are all great games.

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Final Fantasy in general is just a terrible series. Terrible dialogue, poor character development, mediocre plots (VII's is pretty solid though), push-A-to-win gameplay... just awful. I still don't understand why this franchise has such a following.

Final Fantasy I is a novelty that's still fun to play, but III (NES) and V are the only ones that hold up today from a gameplay perspective, i.e. what actually matters.

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From: Menji76 | #027
12, 13 and 13-2 are all great games.

Menji knows whats up.

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From: Westbrick | #028
Final Fantasy I is a novelty that's still fun to play, but III (NES) and V are the only ones that hold up today from a gameplay perspective, i.e. what actually matters.

Whoa....do I have to like you now?

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Whoa....do I have to like you now?

I guess, if you didn't already :(((

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What the

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Generally you take what Menji says and believe the opposite.

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Tornadoman78:
tornadoman and tornadogirl like to kick box each other in my tornaolayzers and she dosent even mind getting hit

That means a lot coming from someone who thinks 8 is the best game.

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I liked XIII more than VII. I like a lot of games more than VII though.

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From: Menji76 | #155
That means a lot coming from someone who thinks 8 is the best game.

I bet you still don't wear deodorant.

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Tornadoman78:
tornadoman and tornadogirl like to kick box each other in my tornaolayzers and she dosent even mind getting hit

I just realized the topic title says Fantasy Fantasy. Haha

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I was just incredibly disgusted by you when you said that. Now every time I see you post I think about it.

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Tornadoman78:
tornadoman and tornadogirl like to kick box each other in my tornaolayzers and she dosent even mind getting hit

It's hard to top the quality of VII, VIII, and X, but XIII was every bit as good as IX, if not better. Haven't played XIII-2 yet though.

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Too early to tell but let's hope so.

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Hopefully they will never again drop down to the level of VII.

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Not unless Hironobu Sakaguchi comes back.

In the mean time STOP buying new Final Fantasy games and get Last Story instead.

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XIII and its sequel both topped VIII and IX pretty easily, and I'd even put XIII over VII but that's mostly because I favour gameplay over plot. So uh I guess so.

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if Versus XIII ever comes out absolutely

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XII is ****ing awesome. People always, and pretty much only, complain about the gambit system. I must have played the game wrong cause the only gambits I used were 'Attack the same foe' and 'Heal when HP <'. It was awesome, I still got to put in commands when and how I wanted and the battles were still fast paced. I love XII.

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TomNook7 posted...
Not unless Hironobu Sakaguchi comes back.

In the mean time STOP buying new Final Fantasy games and get Last Story instead.

No thanks

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