Board 8 > FFXI Nostalgia Time

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TheConductorSix
04/07/12 1:48:00 PM
#101:


Top 5 classes

1. Paladin. Straight OP for 95 percent of the game. Once you built enough enmity you could Sentinel Defender afk tank most things.

2. Red Mage. They would be #1 but it takes level 60 or so before their OP comes out but when it comes out... Lol. Red Mage/ ninja could legitimately solo. They were the group.

3. Bard. game changing at early mid levels. The accuracy bonus was the best move in the game simply because it removed Warriors and Dark Knights weakness. Your damage skyrocketed with one spell.

4.Monk. The best DOT by a margin that's too ridiculous to be legal.

5. Warrior. Most versatile class in the game and most used subjob.

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GenesisTwilight
04/07/12 1:51:00 PM
#102:


Top 1 Coolest Class:

1. Dragoon

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TheConductorSix
04/07/12 1:58:00 PM
#103:


Sadly, before nerfs Dragoon was #1 DPS.

It's hard to explain to people who only played after the nerfs but Penta Thrust Meditate Penta Thrust spam was legendary. Keeping hate off dragons was like keeping hate off of Dark Knight spammers.

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ExThaNemesis
04/07/12 5:53:00 PM
#104:


So no one who wants to start over again together this summer?

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pjbasis
04/07/12 6:11:00 PM
#105:


How many times do I have to say it?

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McBonesII
04/07/12 7:48:00 PM
#106:


every time this idea comes up, I say that I really want to, but I really don't know if I'm up for it. I wanna know if leveling is quicker than it used to be, because frankly even with two-three summer months depending on how often we play we might not be able to really get too far >_>

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TheConductorSix
04/08/12 3:20:00 AM
#107:


They made mobs easier. Also, anyone can level with anyone they just decrease the stats and ratings on gear if you someone higher goes to your level.

Just get Guild Wars 2

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Ayvuir
04/08/12 8:54:00 AM
#108:


Guild Wars 2 might be a better shout.

Looks SICK as well.

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TheConductorSix
04/09/12 2:58:00 PM
#109:


I won't let this die!

Race Rankings:

1.Mithra-they were the best at ranger/thief/ninja/monk/dual wield warrior by a mile thanks to how important Dex and Acc was. They were the second best Tanking Class because thy could go Agility and Dodge at high levels. They had the best RSE gear.

2.Tarutaru- it was laughable how much mana they got. They were better at mages than anyone was at anything. Taru Paladins were hilarious. Spam day Holy and Cure III

3. Elves just looked baller at whatever they did. So regal. Elven Paladins made you feel safe.

4. Humes- I dislike how Humans are always the balanced class. Screw that. Were always good with trading in games where no one uses npc trading.

5. LOL GALKA

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ExThaNemesis
04/09/12 7:26:00 PM
#110:


I can't do other MMOs after FFXI. Nothing has the same charm.

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McBonesII
04/09/12 8:08:00 PM
#111:


Even though I played Elvaan I 100% agree with those rankings, FFXI wasn't really the most balanced game and I don't think there's much of an argument for any other ranking >_>

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TheConductorSix
04/10/12 2:40:00 AM
#112:


The problem was monsters evasion was so high that Dex and Acc became the best stat. Leaping Lizzie was camped for level 7 boots that lasted my Monk and Ranger Til 50.

Then if you were hitting things you needed agility to dodge them until tanks got enmity.

Guess who had stupid amounts of both stats? Mithra monks hit 4 times so often it was hard to keep hate off sometimes.

Never has your race mattered this much since Oblivion took place in a fire realm and one of the races took extra fire damage.

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ShatteredElysium
04/10/12 5:26:00 AM
#113:


TheConductorSix posted...
Top 5 classes

1. Paladin. Straight OP for 95 percent of the game. Once you built enough enmity you could Sentinel Defender afk tank most things.

2. Red Mage. They would be #1 but it takes level 60 or so before their OP comes out but when it comes out... Lol. Red Mage/ ninja could legitimately solo. They were the group.

3. Bard. game changing at early mid levels. The accuracy bonus was the best move in the game simply because it removed Warriors and Dark Knights weakness. Your damage skyrocketed with one spell.

4.Monk. The best DOT by a margin that's too ridiculous to be legal.

5. Warrior. Most versatile class in the game and most used subjob.



This is almost the polar opposite now for PLD and RDM.

Paladin. I never use as it just isn't needed. You can DD tank everything. The only time I ever play PLD now instead of a DD job is if we have to hold adds and that's only because I have an Ochain which is ridiculously broken (100% shield block rate)

RDM is useless now because they can't nuke as hard as BLM or SCH, their enfeebles aren't remotely worthwhile anymore and they also aren't as good at curing as WHM or SCH.

BRD is still really good

MNK and WAR are still powerhouses but lose to a DRK when fully buffed. Here's a parse of damage from some fights not so long back.

DRK 168019 28.20 %
SAM 103734 17.41 %
MNK 93713 15.73 %
WAR 78953 13.25 %

Ragnarok DRK is ridiculously broken. Put it this way, here's the jobs I have levelled DRK WAR BLM RDM WHM THF COR DNC SCH. I play DRK for 95% of LS events we do. Granted I do have an Apocalypse and Ragnarok (but WAR can use Ragnarok too).


The game is almost like a completely new game now compared to what it used to be like. I've played consistently since NA release (October 2003 ish) and the massive overhauls and increasing level caps in the last 2-3 years have completely changed the game. It's more casual and pick-up friendly. Jobs are really easy to level, good gear is a lot easier to get and endgame fights are more accessible to the masses instead of restricted to the elitist endgame LS'es (which disappoints me as I'm one of those douchebags who has always been in a top tier LS >_>). There isn't any competition for NM's/fights nowadays as it's all forced pop with items and the such.

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ShatteredElysium
04/10/12 5:35:00 AM
#114:


Oh and just to show how ridiculous Ragna DRK is.

These were average damage numbers from some fights we did recently lasting ~2-3 minutes each

Ragnarok DRK - 56006
Apocalypse DRK - 40642
Bravura WAR - 39476
Ukonvasara WAR - 37229
Masamune SAM - 35206
Glanzfaust MNK - 31237

Those are all top tier weapons used by people with nigh on perfect gear. For those of you out of the loop Ragnarok, Apocalypse and Bravura are all Relic Weapons which required all the Dynamis currency to complete. Ukonvasara and Masamune are Empyrean weapons (Abyssea version of relic weapons). Glanzfaust is a Mythic MNK weapon which was the Treasure Of Aht Urghan equivalent of a relic (and way harder to get)

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TheConductorSix
04/10/12 11:21:00 AM
#115:


Dark Knights always had the ability to do stupid amounts off damage but accuracy was a huge problem when I left and Soul Eater would garner too much hate.

Guess they fixed that.

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pjbasis
04/10/12 11:23:00 AM
#116:


So how long do accounts stay active anyway?

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ShatteredElysium
04/10/12 11:34:00 AM
#117:


DRK never had an accuracy problem, it was just a player created stigma because they were using the highest delay weapon. Statistically their acc was no worse than any other DD job.

Almost comically now, they have the highest accuracy in game since they get more accuracy buffs than any other job whilst getting to use the more favourable 2 handed formula plus having a load of accuracy on gear they would use natively anyway.

Hate isn't really a huge problem now since like I mentioned, you DD tank nowadays so having hate is what you want anyway. Plus DRK has the massive advantage that Apocalypse gives (it converts 40-60% of weaponskill damage to HP if you use Catastrophe) for DD tanking. You lose a bit of damage from not using Ragnarok but gain a lot of survivability.

Plus any DD worth their salt nowadays will have a decent -Physical Damage Taken set.

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ShatteredElysium
04/10/12 11:46:00 AM
#118:


Also because I'm bored whilst we wait on our 18th to turn up for this event.

Here's my character

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Yes, I play a girl. Kingawesome in the background is my wife (married in real life, not just like a game thing >_>)

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ExThaNemesis
04/10/12 11:46:00 AM
#119:


I'm amazed that you still play, SE.

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ShatteredElysium
04/10/12 12:03:00 PM
#120:


Been playing for nearly 9 years now, I think it's more habit than anything else. Well also it's the people you play with too. When you've played with a lot of the same people for 5-9 years and have become very good friends with them then it's hard to just quit knowing that you're cutting off your main point of contact with those people.

It's not like I have anything to accomplish in game. I have multiple Relic weapons. An Empyrean weapon. Tons of top level jobs. Nigh on perfect gear for all my jobs. I've killed every mob in game and am like sat on a ton of gil with nothing to do with it. So yeah, it's basically just the people I log on for now.

I mean some of these people came to my wedding and we've done regular meet-ups. Hell only this weekend gone I travelled 9 hours to go visit one of the guys I know from FFXI and we went on a 3 day drinking session lol

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ExThaNemesis
04/10/12 7:59:00 PM
#121:


That sounds awesome. What server are you on?

If some of us re-started this summer, think you'd be willing to hook us up with some gil to get started with?

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GenesisTwilight
04/10/12 8:47:00 PM
#122:


So let's talk about the best character names we've seen.

I vote for the Taru Taru named "Anklebiter"

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McBonesII
04/10/12 9:18:00 PM
#123:


not from my server, but a long time ago I saw a screenshot of two mules next to each other named "Gofu" and "Ckyourself".

From: ShatteredElysium | #120
Been playing for nearly 9 years now, I think it's more habit than anything else. Well also it's the people you play with too. When you've played with a lot of the same people for 5-9 years and have become very good friends with them then it's hard to just quit knowing that you're cutting off your main point of contact with those people.


i can 100% respect that, and though I didn't play for as long as you or get anywhere near as advanced as you, I can say with certainty that it was the people I had met that kept me going for as long as I did. My last two months in game were basically just Ballista and helping LS mates with quests/NMs/whatever. I didn't really advance myself, I had become weary of advancement, I just had a hard time tearing myself from some good friends.

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ShatteredElysium
04/10/12 11:41:00 PM
#124:


I'm on Asura and sure.

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Ayvuir
04/11/12 3:50:00 AM
#125:



It's not like I have anything to accomplish in game. I have multiple Relic weapons. An Empyrean weapon. Tons of top level jobs. Nigh on perfect gear for all my jobs. I've killed every mob in game and am like sat on a ton of gil with nothing to do with it. So yeah, it's basically just the people I log on for now.


So i think im gonna join your server soon...

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>_>

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ShatteredElysium
04/11/12 4:15:00 AM
#126:


Well part of the reason for it that gil is a lot easier to make nowadays and there's not really much to spend it on since most of your gear won't come via the AH.

I think I have 34m atm but that's from literally doing nothing other than turn up to LS events for the past 2-3 months. We were selling a few drops for 30-40m each not so long back which split 15-20 ways isn't terrible. Like on Feb 23rd, we apparently got 111,688,000 gil from a 2 hour event split 19 ways according to the sell/split history.

Like if I could be bothered, I could make 3-4m+ a day from soloing Dynamis (You can enter once daily now) plus fishing but I just don't have the time/motivation.

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ShatteredElysium
04/13/12 2:44:00 AM
#127:


Kinda have something to show you guys. One of our members recorded our Nyzul run last night



This is a Nyzul 100 run without cheating. We were the first group to manage 100+ and one of the only groups who does it without cheating (other groups use a tool that lets them run quicker and run through walls)

The basic gist of it is you get set a random objective every floor. Upon completing it you can then port. You port up a random amount between 2 and 9 floors. The target is to get to 100 but you only have 30 minutes.

There's bosses at floor 20, 40, 60, 80, 100 that can drop gear. Better gear as you ascend. Obviously random if you hit those floors or overshoot them though. We just aim for 100 (you can't overshoot 100 now but could in the past which was /wrists worthy)

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