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TheConductorSix 04/26/12 11:57:00 AM #351: |
At this point the most interesting stories are
1. Joffrey's continued downward spiral. Tyrion brought up the Mad King but he didn't lose it until later in age; Joffrey is like 16. Not a good sign for the people but great for people like me who love great villains. 2. Everything with the Iron Islands. Theon and his father, the weird sister, THE IRON PRICE. everything about them is intriguing and compelling. Theon choosing family guilt over the ties of friendship. THE IRON MUTHA F'ING PRICE. I could watch them do anything. Theon vs his Dad in a game of chess....THIS PAWN JUST PAID THE IRON PRICE!!! 3. Dany's path to the Iron Throne. She has the ability to get people to trust and follow her anywhere. Unbeknownst to Renly And his 100000, Stanis and his God, Joffrey and his crown, or Robb and his strategies, this is the greatest power of all: the ability to lead people by the sheer power of will. Her people don't fight for her out of fear or promises of wealth, they do it because they believe in her wholeheartedly; she is their God. And it's not just the Dothraki; anyone who comes into contact with her will be swayed by her presence. She has been to the bottom, whereas everyone else has lived the life of privilege. She wants it more because for her there is nothing else. But in the end, the main difference is that Dany truly believes in her destiny and is the only one with good reason to do so. Everyone else only began to think about the throne because they were told to once Robert died. They want it, they think they deserve it. Dany NEEDS it. Being the Last Dragon is what helped her escape her imprisonment, without it she is just another weak girl. -- Realo won gold at the Sex Olympics with a BROKEN FRIGGIN NECK.-Voltch ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Eeeevil Overlord 04/26/12 12:32:00 PM #352: |
If this was posted in another topic, my apologies, but it's pretty awesome, the Dany, Ned and Balon comparisons in particular.
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Solfadore 04/26/12 12:34:00 PM #353: |
Ned the best.
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TimJab 04/27/12 6:13:00 PM #354: |
From: TheConductorSix | #351 i think joffrey is supposed to be like 12 or 13 -- http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/6967/timfavre.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AlecTrevelyan006 04/27/12 7:16:00 PM #355: |
From: TimJab | #354 Joff is supposed to be 12 at the start of the books, 13 at this point after his name day. Though all the other kids in the show were aged up three years (all the Stark kids) so he may be aged up in the show. And the actor is 18 I think. -- "Shut up and put your tinfoil hat back on." - Ulti ... Copied to Clipboard!
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kevwaffles 04/27/12 8:57:00 PM #356: |
From: AlecTrevelyan006 | #355 They all have to be to keep the same age gaps. Robert's Rebellion was also pushed back by as many years since many of their births matter when they happened relative to it. I think it's mostly because they obviously needed someone 18 to play Daenerys in the first season, and the timing of her birth is very important. -- "One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land." -Toad, SMB3 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tohsaka_Rin 04/27/12 10:00:00 PM #357: |
From: TheConductorSix | #348 This kinda ignores how his brother Tommen was raised pretty much the same way and still turned out a super nice boy (yes, Cersei tried to instill the same sense of superiority in him). Joffrey was a douche long before Robert died, and yet Tommen was still pretty nice. Some people are just born nasty, regardless of how they're raised. -- You're the type that *********** to the girl you like, right? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jeff Zero 04/27/12 10:02:00 PM #358: |
Yeah, I'm aware Joffrey's younger in the books but he's totally like 16 now in the show as far as I can guess.
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Menji76 04/27/12 11:04:00 PM #359: |
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TimJab 04/28/12 8:50:00 AM #360: |
From: Tohsaka_Rin | #357 I do agree with the idea that Joffrey was born with a certain imbalance in his brain, but it could be argued that Tommen isn't as big a douche because he wasn't raised to be king. He's next in line (technically), but he likely wouldn't be king until very old age, like Prince Harry. -- http://i55.tinypic.com/20t3qfm.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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kevwaffles 04/28/12 10:44:00 AM #361: |
From: TimJab | #360 The most likely event is that he wouldn't be king at all. Westerosi line of succession goes to sons first, then brothers. Actually daughters might normally get a crack at it before brothers, too. I always get confused on that detail. -- "One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land." -Toad, SMB3 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ness26 04/28/12 12:49:00 PM #362: |
From: kevwaffles | #361 I know in Dorne women can rule, but I'm not sure about other places. -- No amount of planning will ever replace dumb luck. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Solfadore 04/28/12 2:11:00 PM #363: |
In Dorne: Sons/daughters, then brothers/sisters. Which means if Joffrey has children, it's them first, then Myrcella and her children, then Tommen.
Outside Dorne: Sons, then brothers. Which means it's Joffrey, then his sons, then Tommen. -- When you have nothing to say, quote yourself ~ Solfadore ... Copied to Clipboard!
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kevwaffles 04/28/12 2:55:00 PM #364: |
There's a minor part in the books that confuses me about Westerosi line of succession with regards to daughters versus brothers. It's quite possible I didn't understand the relationships correctly. However, it also seems unnecessary for Stannis to have to name Renly as his successor if brothers have priority over daughters.
But it's of no real consequence to the Tommen example. -- "One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land." -Toad, SMB3 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TimJab 04/28/12 2:57:00 PM #365: |
From: kevwaffles | #361 Well yes but I assume Joffrey won't have any kids if last week was any indication. -- http://www.thejetsblog.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/himommangold_thumb.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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saveus_Maria 04/28/12 8:51:00 PM #366: |
From: kevwaffles | #364 I don't think it was really a statement of offering to literally name Renly his heir as much as saying Renly can still be his heir and all will be forgiven rather than him beheading Renly for going against him -- http://i.imgur.com/jPZcA.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheConductorSix 04/29/12 1:45:00 AM #367: |
Joffrey's little brother was never told he was going to be king from what we've seen. Little brother usually don't hold that esteemed role. He isn't hounded by the same relentless pressures we've seen Cersei shove on Joffrey. He is treated in the same pompous manner Cersei presses on her entire family, but nothing to the level of Joffrey. He's Also too young; he hasn't hit the testosterone fueled confusion of puberty.
Also, for the last time, no one is born bad or good because they're human concepts we made up to rationalize the world around us. It would be like being born with the concept of time or what unicorns are. Nature can make you black or white, tall or short, fast or slow, but it is nurture that makes us sadistic teenagers who get off on the suffering of hot red heads with daddy issues. My biggest quandary is this: how long can Tyrion keep this up? Joffrey was his first miss but he's been flawless everywhere else. How much longer can this last? He has a whore cleaning for Sansa, a spy on his sister, and Littlefinger HATES anyone getting over on him. Eventually this has to come crashing down, right? -- Realo won gold at the Sex Olympics with a BROKEN FRIGGIN NECK.-Voltch ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TimJab 04/29/12 9:11:00 AM #368: |
there's no concrete evidence that one side of nature vs. nurture is correct
you have your opinion, i have mine i think it's a little of both, but mostly nature there are plenty of murderers that came from perfectly well adjusted families, and none of them were promised that they would be king -- http://img.imgcake.com/baronvontoast/1304312287012jpgen.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Theon_Greyjoy 04/29/12 9:13:00 AM #369: |
Stannis doesn't seem to have a daughter in the show
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IREMI 04/29/12 9:43:00 AM #370: |
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LordoftheMorons 04/29/12 11:12:00 AM #371: |
Well psychopathy is a thing that you're born with.
I don't thing it's that hard to argue that Joffrey is a psychopath. -- No I'm not a damn furry. Looney Tunes are different. - Guiga I wanted Sonic/Shadow romance at that time, not sex. - MWE ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AlecTrevelyan006 04/29/12 5:59:00 PM #372: |
9 PM EST Is Coming (very soon)
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Theon_Greyjoy 04/29/12 7:12:00 PM #373: |
Solid as always but What Is Dead May Never Die is still my favorite for the season.
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SemiFinal vs Belarus 04/29/12 7:26:00 PM #374: |
god damn shadow babies
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AlecTrevelyan006 04/29/12 8:23:00 PM #375: |
A man pays his debts. A man owes three.
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AlecTrevelyan006 04/29/12 8:25:00 PM #376: |
Ep 6 preview:
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LordoftheMorons 04/29/12 10:33:00 PM #377: |
...well, can't say I was expecting Renly to die so soon. I guess it makes sense though; no real reason for Renly and Robb not to align otherwise, which probably wouldn't make for such a compelling story.
Jaqen is pretty awesome; wonder who else Arya is going to have killed? I doubt the next two will be as inconsequential as the torturer. -- No I'm not a damn furry. Looney Tunes are different. - Guiga I wanted Sonic/Shadow romance at that time, not sex. - MWE ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Menji76 04/30/12 1:59:00 AM #378: |
Jaqen is indeed awesome. Though I think Arya rushed that death, should have thought about it a bit more. I'm also really loving these Tywin scenes.
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PrinceKaro 04/30/12 2:00:00 AM #379: |
The Tickler killed by Jaqen?
Jaqen worshiping the 'Red God' (Lord of Light) instead of the Many-Faced God? I'm not a fan of these changes the show writers are making. Not at all. -- SuperNiceDog is about 20% cooler then the other gurus. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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xp1337 04/30/12 3:34:00 AM #380: |
Jaqen worshiping the 'Red God' (Lord of Light) instead of the Many-Faced God?
If you're referring to Jaqen talking about "The Red God is owed three lives" or whatever it is he says (forget the exact words), that is from the book. Jaqen uses the words "The Red God" when the conversation with Arya occurs. -- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? GotD (219/384) Melee v FFX ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Menji76 04/30/12 3:49:00 AM #381: |
loved rickon smashing the table
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CoolCly 04/30/12 4:04:00 AM #382: |
Yeah, he said the Red God in the books too.
And who cares if the Tickler dies here. It's a way better name than Chiswyck to use and he stood out more during the torturing than Chiswyck did. -- The batman villians all seem to be one big joke that batman refuses to laugh at - SantaRPG ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Theon_Greyjoy 04/30/12 5:11:00 AM #383: |
CoolCly posted...
Yeah, he said the Red God in the books too. And who cares if the Tickler dies here. It's a way better name than Chiswyck to use and he stood out more during the torturing than Chiswyck did. Check the book spoilers topic on the broadcast board. People are worried about missing a great future scene -- EndOfDiscOne http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/350/normallost6x010065.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SubDeity 04/30/12 5:38:00 AM #384: |
I don't think thee change really matters. The inn scene won't occur for two seasons and suddenly recalling a random unimportant character who appeared for a few minutes 25 episodes ago would probably just be confusing to regular viewers rather than particularly awesome.
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kevwaffles 04/30/12 6:43:00 AM #385: |
From: SubDeity | #384 Arya's prayer should have been able to let people remember who The Tickler is, well enough to serve there. -- "One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land." -Toad, SMB3 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Theon_Greyjoy 04/30/12 7:28:00 AM #386: |
Lots of Dany fuel for Realopinions...looking forward to this.
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PrinceKaro 04/30/12 8:26:00 AM #387: |
xp1337 posted...
If you're referring to Jaqen talking about "The Red God is owed three lives" or whatever it is he says (forget the exact words), that is from the book. Jaqen uses the words "The Red God" when the conversation with Arya occurs. Wow, really? That is interesting... But still, I hope they give the Tickler's role later on to someone else (most likely Polliver, as he's the only other one of the Mountain's goons that the show has bothered naming). -- SuperNiceDog is about 20% cooler then the other gurus. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ness26 04/30/12 2:52:00 PM #388: |
From: PrinceKaro | #387 They were dying to fire... -- No amount of planning will ever replace dumb luck. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheConductorSix 04/30/12 4:45:00 PM #389: |
I will ONLY be talking about Dany for this week.
We've finally reached that point, the one I've been waiting for. When I made my comments about Dany's "power" in this Game of Thrones I didn't think it would come so soon. Dany is like the ugly girl who got hot but doesn't realize just how hot she is. She's unaware of her power but is slowly learning. What makes it so entertaining is that EVERYONE else can see it. Every person she comes into contact with, every person who spends the smallest amount of time in her presence, is caught in the cataclysm of her personality. Vash the Stampede can suck it, Dany Targ is the Human Typhoon, and she leaves a trail of bodies in her wake. Her servants fight over who can please her the most, her soldiers obey her without question and with the utmost loyalty(Could Khal Drogo get those guys NOT to steal if he wanted? They might fight him to the death over it.), rich and powerful men are willing to give half their fortunes to marry her and be apart of her world, her "Advisor" is so dedicated that he actually said these words "I look at you and can't believe you're real." When she gets to Westeros I feel bad for everyone vying for power because she gains it so easily. Jorah is right, people in Westeros will give her whatever she wants, I can't see them ever saying no. They, like everyone else, will be caught in the turbulent zephyrs of her personality. Love, Love, Love this episode. Theon's backstabbing is making me sad though :( -- Realo won gold at the Sex Olympics with a BROKEN FRIGGIN NECK.-Voltch ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AlecTrevelyan006 05/01/12 8:29:00 PM #390: |
Series high in ratings.
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CoolCly 05/01/12 8:34:00 PM #391: |
No realopinion on Jaqen H'ghar?
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Solfadore 05/01/12 11:25:00 PM #392: |
Just watched the episode, expected a mixed bag given the reviews I read and was very pleasantly surprised! Now, non-book readers might've lost a bit here and there (due to the many plotlines ongoing at the same time), but as a book reader, that was an absolute delight! Probably my second favourite episode yet after What is Dead May Never Die. Arya/Tywin was a glorious addition, and I really liked Stannis/Davos too (Dillane and Cunningham are killing it!).
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Jeff Zero 05/01/12 11:57:00 PM #393: |
From: AlecTrevelyan006 | #390 Yeah, a 1.9 18-49 tying the NBA Playoffs. Terrific. -- "Later..." <Toonami> <4/1/2012> <Never Forget> ~SCP~ http://img.imgcake.com/Jeffzeropngus.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TimJab 05/02/12 3:53:00 PM #394: |
From: TheConductorSix | #389 god damn it -- http://images.memegenerator.net/instances/500x/9521708.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TimJab 05/02/12 3:54:00 PM #395: |
also what was the significance of the names arya was listing at night? just people she plans to kill? i couldn't really hear
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TheConductorSix 05/02/12 3:58:00 PM #396: |
the dude murdering people for Arya...
I like where that's going. Not for him persay, but because Arya looks like she LOVES IT. -- Realo won gold at the Sex Olympics with a BROKEN FRIGGIN NECK.-Voltch ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LordoftheMorons 05/02/12 4:01:00 PM #397: |
TimJab posted...
also what was the significance of the names arya was listing at night? just people she plans to kill? i couldn't really hear She's listing the people she needs revenge on I think. -- No I'm not a damn furry. Looney Tunes are different. - Guiga I wanted Sonic/Shadow romance at that time, not sex. - MWE ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ness26 05/02/12 4:02:00 PM #398: |
From: TimJab | #395 If you remember a few episodes ago Yoren mentioned saying the name of the man who killed his brother every night before he fell asleep as some sort of revenge thing. -- No amount of planning will ever replace dumb luck. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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