Board 8 > Mega Millions is now 476 million dollars...

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Aecioo
03/28/12 6:51:00 AM
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drawing on friday



someone here win and share it plz

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Ayuyu
03/28/12 6:54:00 AM
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Isn't the prize much lower because of taxes?

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Rad Link 5
03/28/12 6:56:00 AM
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My parents keep entering and telling me about how much money they could win.

I notice they don't mention sending any my way.

Maybe I should think about picking some numbers myself.

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Aecioo
03/28/12 6:57:00 AM
#4:


Ayuyu posted...
Isn't the prize much lower because of taxes?

yeah, you'll get somewhere around 240 million dollars.


so

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SlymDayspring
03/28/12 6:57:00 AM
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if everyone on board 8 collaborates we could increase our chances from like .0001% to .001%

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Aecioo
03/28/12 6:59:00 AM
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If we could conceivably pool our money and hope that it equals 170 million, we can guarantee ourselves winning by playing every possible combination. In the end it would be a gain of about 70 million.

WHAT CAN GO WRONG

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Rad Link 5
03/28/12 6:59:00 AM
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I'm not sure it's worth splitting that many ways, though.

Then we'd only be getting, like, twenty-four million dollars each.

What am I going to do with just twenty-four million dollars?

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SunbakedOrphan
03/28/12 7:05:00 AM
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If you take a lump sum, I'm pretty sure that the figure you receive is significantly lower than what you would end up receiving if you took monthly payments

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Aecioo
03/28/12 7:06:00 AM
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SunbakedOrphan posted...
If you take a lump sum, I'm pretty sure that the figure you receive is significantly lower than what you would end up receiving if you took monthly payments

Yeah, because they try and do it in a way that avoids you getting blasted by taxes by spacing it out.

But when the jackpot is almost 500 million dollars, I don't think anyone would object to just taking the lump sum 250ish million dollars as opposed to having to wait 30 years for however much more.

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Rad Link 5
03/28/12 7:08:00 AM
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My father always says he'd rather just take the lump sum and invest the money himself. Having never had that much money myself, I don't know if there's any merit to such an idea.

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Ayuyu
03/28/12 7:08:00 AM
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From: Aecioo | #004
Ayuyu posted...
Isn't the prize much lower because of taxes?

yeah, you'll get somewhere around 240 million dollars.


so


Well I can't build myself a kingdom with a mere 240 millions.

Not worth it at all.

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scotted4
03/28/12 7:12:00 AM
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Well if they ever go bankrupt/out of business and you chose the spread out payment plan, I'm not sure if you will end up getting the rest of it.
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Aecioo
03/28/12 7:13:00 AM
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Rad Link 5 posted...
My father always says he'd rather just take the lump sum and invest the money himself. Having never had that much money myself, I don't know if there's any merit to such an idea.

I really think that unless you've grown up rich, it's almost impossible to ever burn through that much money unless you're one of those idiots that gets a financial adviser who tells you to invest in hauling icebergs from the north pole to Hawaii to create colder swimming pools, or something. It's one thing for athletes to burn through their money because they believe they will always be making 20 million a year so they act like they have 200 million when they only have 20 million, but to actually suddenly have 200 million out of nowhere is different.

I don't know.

I just can't see myself using even 100 million dollars in a lifetime, let alone double that.

edit - point of this post was to say that it would be really easy to invest a lot of the money in "safe" ways because chances are you're not going to miss the money anyway

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The Real Truth
03/28/12 7:14:00 AM
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From: Aecioo | #006
If we could conceivably pool our money and hope that it equals 170 million, we can guarantee ourselves winning by playing every possible combination. In the end it would be a gain of about 70 million.

WHAT CAN GO WRONG


That's assuming nobody else wins.

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Rad Link 5
03/28/12 7:15:00 AM
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From: Aecioo | #012
a financial adviser who tells you to invest in hauling icebergs from the north pole to Hawaii to create colder swimming pools


You're investing in this, too?

We're gonna be rich, man.

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SlymDayspring
03/28/12 9:04:00 AM
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it's almost impossible to ever burn through that much money unless you're one of those idiots

so basically it is impossible to burn through that much money unless you are the vast majority of board 8

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Ayuyu
03/28/12 9:06:00 AM
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Honestly if I'd win that much money I don't think I,d change my lifestyle much except for a trip with bros every summer.

But a month long trip every year won't burn through 100 million bucks.

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vcharon
03/28/12 9:14:00 AM
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Are people in here worried about having too much money? If you win, give me a buzz and I'll take some of it off your hands.

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SlymDayspring
03/28/12 9:15:00 AM
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I don't think any people in here are saying anything like that

maybe ayuyu, but not any people.

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neonreaper
03/28/12 9:19:00 AM
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SunbakedOrphan posted...
If you take a lump sum, I'm pretty sure that the figure you receive is significantly lower than what you would end up receiving if you took monthly payments

Also, if you take the payments, they don't actually pay you 476M anyway.

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neonreaper
03/28/12 9:22:00 AM
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I could see myself hooking up a few board 8ers that I like with some moneys

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Psycho_Kenshin
03/28/12 9:24:00 AM
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If I won 476 million dollars from this I would give 1 million to board 8 hell yes.

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Gwindor
03/28/12 9:28:00 AM
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Most people, if they don't already manage a sum of money that large, are completely unprepared to do so. Banks will only guarantee a small amount (never over 1 million) and so just saving your money become a challenge. People that aren't used to asset management can quickly lose it all.

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Alfalphamale
03/29/12 6:09:00 PM
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My state doesn't have Mega Millions :(

Luckily I can buy tickets online, huzzah!
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McBonesII
03/29/12 6:18:00 PM
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it's up to 540 now and it doesn't even draw until tomorrow. I always enter pools at work, even second prize gets me a decent amount of money, and I'd probably just blow the $5 on something stupid anyway so might as well play

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JaKyL25
03/29/12 6:23:00 PM
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I would just take the payment plan and then never have to worry about "investing" or anything like that, and just know that I have a still-moderately-ridiculous cash flow coming in annually for the rest of my life.

EDIT: $50K per year is pretty much the tipping point there. If it's less, then give me lump sum. But this obviously wouldn't be less.

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Alfalphamale
03/29/12 6:29:00 PM
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What about inflation? Who knows if I'll even be alive in 25 years. I can just put it all in a Swedish bank account and just live off of the interest forever :)
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Red Shifter
03/29/12 6:40:00 PM
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hauling icebergs from the north pole

i heard they take from the south pole to deliver drinking water to third world nations

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McBonesII
03/29/12 6:44:00 PM
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Also, most people don't know, but the yearly payout option usually comes with a clause that states that it does not transfer to next of kin, meaning that if you die the payments will cease, which could potentially leave all the debt onto your family if you don't spend too intelligently

so yeah, always lump sum

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Wanglicious
03/29/12 6:49:00 PM
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it's plenty more than 50k/year, don't even need to worry on that. you can live MORE than comfortably enough and even with inflation will be fine.

but lump sum anyway because if you invest with it properly you'll get plenty more returns.

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swordz9
03/29/12 6:55:00 PM
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If I won I'd donate a few million dollars to a couple charities and I'd probably travel quite a bit too since I've never been anywhere.

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WhoopsyDaisy
03/29/12 7:13:00 PM
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I'd feel really really awkward radically adjusting my spending habits. I don't think my tastes would all of a sudden get vastly more expensive. I think I'd just... you know... not worry about what things cost. I'd probably sell my condo and buy something nicer, but other than that I think my life would be a more convenient version of itself.

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foolm0ron
03/29/12 7:17:00 PM
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From: Aecioo | #009
Yeah, because they try and do it in a way that avoids you getting blasted by taxes by spacing it out.

But when the jackpot is almost 500 million dollars, I don't think anyone would object to just taking the lump sum 250ish million dollars as opposed to having to wait 30 years for however much more.


And in 30 years, 250 million will be worth a lot less

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EndOfDiscOne
03/29/12 7:32:00 PM
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I'm pretty sure you guys have it backwards. The $476 million is assuming you take it over the 10 or 30 years, however long it is. If you take the lump sum, it gets discounted over all of those years. On top of the tax.

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tyder21
03/29/12 7:57:00 PM
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http://www.usamega.com/mega-millions-jackpot.asp

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Aecioo
03/29/12 8:05:00 PM
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EndOfDiscOne posted...
I'm pretty sure you guys have it backwards. The $476 million is assuming you take it over the 10 or 30 years, however long it is. If you take the lump sum, it gets discounted over all of those years. With the tax on top of that.

Edit: nevermind SunbakedOrphan already explained it.


what

no one said you get more money taking the lump sum

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RayDyn
03/29/12 8:36:00 PM
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The other deal with taking the payments is that when you die, your family does not get the remainder of the payments, so if you only live for two months after you start receiving the payments, you only got a small amount, and your family don't get s***.

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Leebo86
03/30/12 4:42:00 AM
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From: RayDyn | #038
The other deal with taking the payments is that when you die, your family does not get the remainder of the payments, so if you only live for two months after you start receiving the payments, you only got a small amount, and your family don't get s***.


Not according to this.

http://www.megamillions.com/faqs/#9

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azuarc
03/30/12 5:00:00 AM
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Pennsylvania: No State Tax on Lottery Prizes!

Excellent...


So let's see, I'm supposed to pick 5 numbers out of 56, and then 1 number out of a different set of 46?

C(56,5) = 3819816
Multiply that by 46 options on the last number, and you get 175,711,536.


So $175,711,536 to play every ticket possible. And a payout of $292,500,000 for a lumpsum payout. Cya guys, I'm off to the bank to ask for a $176 million loan.
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Xuxon
03/30/12 7:06:00 AM
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With how much the jackpot has increased since last time already, it's highly likely that you'll be splitting that jackpot and lose money. Possibly even splitting it 3 or 4 ways. I don't even think the overall expected value per ticket is going to be positive with how many tickets people are buying now, but even if it is, clearly that play is far too risky unless you already have billions.

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MarvelousGerbil
03/30/12 7:22:00 AM
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Is this the "estimated jackpot"? Because what if the estimation is really off and they were off by two zeroes. I estimate that you'd be pissed.

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Leebo86
03/30/12 7:26:00 AM
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The estimated jackpot has gone up to $540 million in the time since the topic was made.

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PartOfYourWorld
03/30/12 7:41:00 AM
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So uhh what would you guys do with all that scratch (apart from the usual good samaritan stuff)? I'd like to build a house. Not too huge a house, but it would have one secret room and a secret basement modeled after the labs in Resident Evil.

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Alfalphamale
03/30/12 8:35:00 AM
#45:


http://www.usamega.com/mega-millions-jackpot.asp

Relevant information.


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http://fintrend.com/financial-calculators/retirement-planning-calculator/

It's not that accurate since it doesn't account for inflation every single year, but...even though if you took the annuity payments.

By the time you are done with your annuity (given a 1% inflation rate...which is 1/3 of the average).

Adjusted with inflation, the worth of what you have is $291 Million.

As opposed to $292 million you would have now in which you can just put it in a bank and then investing with that money.

I couldn't find a more accurate calculator though, so maybe someone could help me out with the actual numbers. Thanks
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Leebo86
03/30/12 9:11:00 AM
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Estimate is at 640 mil now

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AsurasKordoth
03/30/12 9:53:00 AM
#47:


Only the jackpot gets split right so if you get the 5 + 0 prize you would get the $250k (minus taxes) to yourself?

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Leebo86
03/30/12 9:55:00 AM
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Yes, only jackpots are split.

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bryans7
03/30/12 10:00:00 AM
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That reminds me of a funny lotto story. Somewhere in New York, over 100 people all got 5 numbers on the Powerball (all but the powerball number). They investigated for shenanigans and discovered a local fortune cookie company printed the numbers on the backs of fortunes that week.

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RayDyn
03/30/12 12:25:00 PM
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From: Leebo86 | Posted: 3/30/2012 7:42:57 AM | #039
Not according to this.

http://www.megamillions.com/faqs/#9


I could've sworn it was the way I described, I must be thinking of something else then, oh well.

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