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ShadowHalo17 03/24/12 7:16:00 AM #1: |
That's what bothers me the most about Dragonball Z. Okay... wish for immortality. You can still get killed. Should be wishing for invincibility/invulnerability.
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Ayuyu 03/24/12 7:17:00 AM #2: |
I guess invincibility doesn't protect you from dying of old age or something.
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crazyisgood 03/24/12 7:21:00 AM #3: |
You wish for immortality and a healing factor.
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Aecioo 03/24/12 7:23:00 AM #4: |
The show Supernatural deals with this briefly.
SPOILERS I GUESS There is someone who discovers a way to become immortal, but his body is constantly degrading so he has to steal working body parts from living people to keep himself functional. So you can cut him up and stuff, but he'll still be alive and you can put him back together if you fix him, aka he will go blind from his eyes getting old, but then he can surgically remove eyes from a living person and put them in himself and that's how he continues "functioning". He will always be alive though. -- http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lcb35gGx0t1qailr4o1_500.gif http://www.megavideo.com/?v=57N0YAEJ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GANON1025 03/24/12 7:24:00 AM #5: |
Sometimes the two are used interchangeably. They can mean the same thing, like in DBZ.
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Lightning Strikes 03/24/12 7:28:00 AM #6: |
Immortal, by definition, means that you cannot be killed. It does not necessarily make you invulnerable to harm however.
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Psycho_Kenshin 03/24/12 7:28:00 AM #7: |
Lightning Strikes posted...
Immortal, by definition, means that you cannot be killed. It does not make you invulnerable to harm however. I'm not sure if that's 100% true though, at least since many if not most stories with immortals feature some one way to kill them or something. Even gods. -- One Piece: Pirates with style! -= Metal Gear Solid: Tactical Espionage Action =- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ShadowHalo17 03/24/12 7:33:00 AM #8: |
As I said, I've always thought of immortals as those who can't die by natural causes but can still be shot in the head and killed (or any harmful act such as that). While invincibility/invulnerability means you can't be killed by others but you can still die by natural causes... I guess.
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EndOfDiscOne 03/24/12 7:34:00 AM #9: |
Aecioo posted...
The show Supernatural deals with this briefly. SPOILERS I GUESS There is someone who discovers a way to become immortal, but his body is constantly degrading so he has to steal working body parts from living people to keep himself functional. So you can cut him up and stuff, but he'll still be alive and you can put him back together if you fix him, aka he will go blind from his eyes getting old, but then he can surgically remove eyes from a living person and put them in himself and that's how he continues "functioning". He will always be alive though. Sort of the opposite of the way fantasy usually deals with it. See: elves in LotR. They're immortal because they won't die of natural causes, won't age or get sick, but they can be killed by physical harm. -- http://img.imgcake.com/fitgirljpgta.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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th3l3fty 03/24/12 7:34:00 AM #10: |
Baccano! immortality the best immortality
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Dark Young Link 03/24/12 7:37:00 AM #11: |
Also immortality doesn't mean non aging by default. Even if you don't die from old age, your body will eventually become so old, it can't do anything because it wasn't designed to exist for so long.
But eh, I can only speak for us puny humans. Sayians, etc are different from us. -- http://img.imgcake.com/AlecTrevylan006/darkyounglinkshieldpngyg.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ShadowHalo17 03/24/12 7:38:00 AM #12: |
From: EndOfDiscOne | #009 Precisely. That's how I have always viewed immortality. From: th3l3fty | #010 Isn't that basically the same thing? They live forever, but they can still be killed (been a long time since I watched it). -- ~Halo Give into the Night. http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a125/ShadowHalo/haloshadow1.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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th3l3fty 03/24/12 7:40:00 AM #13: |
From: ShadowHalo17 | #012 they can be killed, yes, but they also revive fully-healed shortly after -- thelefty for analysis crew 2008 imo -tranny I have a third degree burn in flame-o-nomics -Sir Chris ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ShadowHalo17 03/24/12 7:41:00 AM #14: |
From: Dark Young Link | #011 Of course I did bring this up because of DBZ, but it's still a genuine concept that I'm interested in discussing. Obviously there has been no immortals in real life, so it's essentially just a fictional concept only. Which means it can be altered. You bring up a good point though. If puny humans were to discover immortality, it could turn out to be worse than death. Living as an old, decaying person that can't do anything, but forever unable to die. Eesh. That is partly why I would never wish for immortality. Mainly because I see no reason to even WANT to live forever. It's stupid. Life only means something because of the short time we have with it. You get infinite time and it'd probably get boring and very lonely. I would never ever wish for immortality. -- ~Halo Give into the Night. http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a125/ShadowHalo/haloshadow1.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ShadowHalo17 03/24/12 7:43:00 AM #15: |
From: th3l3fty | #013 Oooh right. Like I said it's been a long time since I've watched Baccano. Barely remember anything about it at all. -- ~Halo There is no Crane, only Scarecrow! http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/3739/scarecrowq.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lightning Strikes 03/24/12 7:54:00 AM #16: |
Well immortal, literally, means "not mortal", meaning that whoever is immortal cannot dies, because otherwise they would be mortal. Hard to kill, yes, but mortal.
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GuessMyUserName 03/24/12 8:01:00 AM #17: |
When I imagine immortality, I imagine Hellsing's Alucard.
When I imagine invincibility, I imagine...Sonic the Hedgehog with Invincibility. Except not timed. -- http://img.imgcake.com/GuessMyUserName/gumpngygpnghe.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SBell0105 03/24/12 8:29:00 AM #18: |
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CeraSeptem 03/24/12 8:59:00 AM #19: |
Yeah technically immortality would necessitate the inability to die by any cause, but that would be boring in fiction so they just make it "natural" immortality.
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Shoenin_Kakashi 03/24/12 9:09:00 AM #20: |
Vegeta wanted immortality because lol Saiyan Hax
Frieza wanted it because he thought he was bar non the strongest being in the universe. This is obviously false but its Frieza so what are you gonna do. -- Oh SuperNiceDog's doing it again dude. SuperNiceDog, you ain't no pimp dude ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Wanglicious 03/24/12 10:09:00 AM #21: |
immortality is why we have crickets.
invincibility is why you have to watch out for your heel. -- The King Wang. Listen up Urinal Cake. I already have something that tells me if I'm too drunk when I pee on it: My friends. - Colbert. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MrGreenonion 03/24/12 10:13:00 AM #22: |
This reminds me of Seth from Lost Odyssey.
At first glance, her costume just looks like typical JRPG silliness. Heavy plate on her arms, but all she covers her body with is a light sundress. Totally ridiculous, right? But she, like many of the characters in the game, is immortal. So if someone stabs her through the chest, it won't kill her. But if someone cut her arm off, she'd just be stuck living forever with a missing arm. So it actually makes sense that she'd only be interested in protecting her extremities. -- SuperNiceDog didn't have to reconcile his name... But Dauntless Hunter is now MrGreenonion ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ShadowHalo17 03/24/12 11:07:00 AM #23: |
So what if she got cut in half or decapitated?
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MrGreenonion 03/24/12 11:22:00 AM #24: |
Fatal wounds like that would obviously heal if you're immortal.
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pjbasis 03/24/12 11:22:00 AM #25: |
Or it would be impossible to be injured in the first place.
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SBell0105 03/24/12 12:27:00 PM #26: |
From: ShadowHalo17 | #023 There can be only one! -- (\__/) (='.'=] < http://img.imgcake.com/sbellcardjpgub.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PerfectChaosZ 03/24/12 12:56:00 PM #27: |
Be Vandal Savage.
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MrGreenonion 03/24/12 12:56:00 PM #28: |
Be Randy Savage
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Rad Link 5 03/24/12 1:07:00 PM #29: |
From: Dark Young Link | #011 This doesn't make any sense to me. The reason people die of old age is because components of their body have worn down enough that it can't support them anymore. So what are you getting if you're immortal but your body still ages? Does that just mean the vital parts of your body (heart, brain, etc.) will never wear down? That's just goofy. -- [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] Ace Detective in Sir Charles's Police http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkOj5DAJu2A ... Copied to Clipboard!
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