Board 8 > League of Legends Topic 38 - "Did you fall down and go boom?"

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Phase
03/26/12 4:36:00 PM
#301:


Lopen posted...
More like who actually plays unranked draft style. The only reason to play unranked is so your game doesn't take 6 minutes to start. I'm surprised that unranked draft SR beats Dominion.

People who want to queue up with 3 or 4, but not 5, and like bans. Also, from my limited experience, people who like to queue dodge.

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SythaWarrior
03/26/12 5:42:00 PM
#302:


I get a lot of Queue dodges in normal queue too actually.

I like draft normals for counter picking and not getting annoying match ups that I really hate to play. The Bans really aren't that important to me. Also I think I see a wider amount of characters in draft vs. blind. In Blind I see Lee Sin, Morgana, Shyvana, and Shaco all the time.

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Peace___Frog
03/26/12 8:44:00 PM
#303:


draft does get you more variety, but blind gets you to play matches you normally wouldn't, which can help you learn other things

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AfroSquirrel
03/26/12 9:08:00 PM
#304:


Right now I see it like this:

Play against bots to test build times and learn new languages
Play blind to test strategies
Play draft to prepare for when I hit 30
Play TT when I just want IP or to do something silly (like AS/on-hit Lulu when I get her)
Play Dominions when I want a fast brawl of a game

I haven't tried any custom games yet. Are there any interesting options?

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Lopen
03/26/12 9:10:00 PM
#305:


From: AfroSquirrel | #304
I haven't tried any custom games yet. Are there any interesting options?


1 vs 5 AI, obviously.

I'm not sure what it teaches you aside from possibly some map awareness vs split pushing and it doesn't even give you IP but it was surprisingly addictive last night <_<

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Forceful_Dragon
03/26/12 9:47:00 PM
#306:


Red/FD 1-0 so far tonight. Stream getting turned on now:
http://www.twitch.tv/red13n

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MUKMASTER2
03/26/12 9:52:00 PM
#307:


Hey Joyrock, how do I do this?

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1398928

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OctilIery
03/26/12 9:55:00 PM
#308:


MUKMASTER2 posted...
Hey Joyrock, how do I do this?

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1398928


....Is there a reason this is directed at me or something? XD

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OctilIery
03/26/12 10:00:00 PM
#309:


MUKMASTER2 posted...
Well, there is a guy in the topic named "Octillery"

That's a pretty common name given the origins!

I almost always use Joyrock, Angryaeisia, or DSFlashlight, or a variation of one.

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MUKMASTER2
03/26/12 10:00:00 PM
#310:


Well, there is a guy in the topic named "Octillery"

I keep getting the "request timed out" response.

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MUKMASTER2
03/26/12 10:04:00 PM
#311:


My bad then. I thought it was you.

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SythaWarrior
03/26/12 10:52:00 PM
#312:


B8 was 2-0 in 4v5s I am pleased.

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Lopen
03/26/12 11:30:00 PM
#313:


I swear I've never seen a Frost Queen Janna that didn't suck.

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TheConductorSix
03/26/12 11:51:00 PM
#314:


CDR boots are useless unless you're support kayle.

If you need CDR that badly sneak a Stinger in there. It's dirt cheap and gives AS/CDR.

Bloodthirster is my final "big item" because with Thirster and Gunblade you'll be nearly impossible to kill. Wait for someone to ignite you then hit Ultimate. Boom.

You can build anything with Kayle but my build is for late game. Enemies WILL focus you. They have to. Thirster Gunblade Rageblade make that focus a serious waste of resources.

Kayle's Q scaling off of 100% AD/AP is why Rageblade/Gunblade are my first 2 items. Before you harass someone make sure to get max Rageblade and then Q them in lane. It's a silly amount of harass

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Forceful_Dragon
03/27/12 12:23:00 AM
#315:


Win ~ Maokai ~ 4-8-13 (2.13) [+13] 1783 [12]
Win ~ Kayle ~ 0-4-10 (2.50) [+12] 1795 [45]
Loss ~ Miss Fortune ~ 7-8-8 (1.88) [-13] 1782 [45]
Loss ~ Warwick ~ 2-8-12 (1.75) [-13] 1769 [12]

2-2 tonight. -1 ELO

I was pretty horrid tonight. Just get anything going early in any of the games.

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AfroSquirrel
03/27/12 12:06:00 PM
#316:


I'm just addicted to CDR ._. Maximum button pressing! Even though I know that a bigger burst is better most of the time...

Tried building Rageblade first and liked the results. I've seen mentions of starting with the DRing instead of shoes and pots; what are your guys' thoughts on that.

I'm now sad that I missed the Kayle skin sale.

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masterplum
03/27/12 12:42:00 PM
#317:


From: AfroSquirrel | #316
I've seen mentions of starting with the DRing instead of shoes and pots; what are your guys' thoughts on that.


Totally depends on the situation

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AfroSquirrel
03/27/12 2:33:00 PM
#318:


From: masterplum | #317
Totally depends on the situation


Mostly for solo top Kayle. I've liked it so far, but it wasn't as much of an improvement as taking E first instead of Q. Being able to farm from range right away seems more useful than being able to poke for solo top.

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Hrezs
03/27/12 2:41:00 PM
#319:


Poking some champs solo top is extremely useful at level 1. Against someone like trynd getting that early advantage is key to winning the lane

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KommunistKoala
03/27/12 2:45:00 PM
#320:


I finally beat an Akali in top lane (I've just never been able to do well against her...dat burst). Then my team fed graves 9 kills haha

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TheConductorSix
03/27/12 3:32:00 PM
#321:


Pick Teemo. When she Q's you blind her so the passive doesn't activate. Then laugh as she remembers she has to auto attack for damage.

Dorans Ring works for mid lane Kayle if their jungler isn't a good early ganker. Top lane Kayle needs boots. Period. At level 2 you can harass with slow and E and do an incredible amount of damage.

Max CDR can be achieved without CDR boots. Nashor's gives 25 percent and Blue buff will cap you. Blue buff Kayle has her ultimate on a 35 second cooldown.

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Aecioo
03/27/12 5:57:00 PM
#322:


someone play with me

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Aecioo
03/27/12 6:16:00 PM
#323:


u all suk

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SythaWarrior
03/27/12 7:22:00 PM
#324:


PLaying with Justin. Good times.

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SythaWarrior
03/27/12 7:22:00 PM
#325:


This nasus is giving Kanz and Peaf a run for their money.

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Peace___Frog
03/27/12 7:43:00 PM
#326:


uh how? I don't get it

unless you mean with how much he's trolling in a bot game...

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SythaWarrior
03/27/12 8:02:00 PM
#327:


Load timez he took like 3 minutes.

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SythaWarrior
03/27/12 8:03:00 PM
#328:


Also Peaf get on Lolz

Me and Aecioo are still going. I'm just dragging it out for hopefully more. B8ers weigh less then pub triple queues.

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SythaWarrior
03/27/12 8:15:00 PM
#329:


Aecioo my Laptop battery isn't storing any power so if it unplugs at all it dies. I'm still here. Sorry about that.

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McBonesII
03/27/12 8:23:00 PM
#330:


oh man you guys play support Kayle? jungle Kayle is where it's at, carry so hard

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TheConductorSix
03/27/12 8:56:00 PM
#331:


Again, she can go into any role she just needs a specific rune set.

Also Aecioo every time I invite you, you dot respond for like 35 minutes.

You and kanz need to add my alt

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Peace___Frog
03/27/12 9:02:00 PM
#332:


From: SythaWarrior | Posted: 3/27/2012 11:15:16 PM | #329
Aecioo my Laptop battery isn't storing any power so if it unplugs at all it dies. I'm still here. Sorry about that.


yeah it's the worst

especially when drunken roommates know that and they hear that you're in a ranked game >_<


sorry I wasn't on sytha, just didn't have time

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Forceful_Dragon
03/27/12 10:10:00 PM
#333:


Red/FD DuoQ Time:
http://www.twitch.tv/red13n

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Forceful_Dragon
03/27/12 11:17:00 PM
#334:


1-1 after 2 games, about to Q up for game 3.

Our loss was pretty terribad though. You wouldn't know that we're at high 1700s.

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AfroSquirrel
03/27/12 11:49:00 PM
#335:


What kind of runes should top/mid Kayle be packing? I'm currently using my 'generic offensive runepage v2', which is movespeed Quint(s), APen&MPen Red, and AS Blue/Yellow.

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Forceful_Dragon
03/28/12 12:02:00 AM
#336:


Hybrid Reds
Attack speed Blue/Yellow

sounds right.

And then hybrid or movespeed quints?

edit: 2-1 in DuoQ now, Q'd up for one last game tonight.


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Forceful_Dragon
03/28/12 1:07:00 AM
#337:


Win ~ Kayle ~ 1-1-6 (7.00) [+13] 1782 [45]
Loss ~ Kayle ~ 5-4-6 (2.75) [-12] 1770 [35]
Win ~ Alitar ~ 2-1-14 (16.00) [+13] 1783 [45]
Loss ~ Nunu ~ 3-8-9 (1.50) [-13] 1770 [45]


+1 Elo tonight. Yayyy! -__-'' Both losses were super frustrating.


We had a strong nasus in Loss #2 but he NEVER waited for our team to be together.
He would just start fights whenever he damn well pleased.

Corki is 2 screens away? Why wait! I'll just start a fight and then QQ at corki after.
Repeat that^ times 50. That sums up the game.



Loss #1 was courtesy of a riven who abandoned top at 4 minutes in. She just left top and started taking our skarners jungle. Which obviously sucks but we told our skarner to man up and hold top. He refused and proceeded to assume the game was over.

The lesson to be learned from Loss #1 is sometimes you just have to swallow your pride and do whats best for the team. In that case it mean skarner covering top instead of letting wave after wave run into the tower and no one got any XP for it. We still almost won that game in spite of everything, but the chain reaction trolling caught up to us. If we had 4-5 people actually trying (instead of QQing) the entire game it's a different story.


Loss #1 I played close to perfectly, starting 3-0. Might have been able to play Loss #2 slightly better, but there really wasn't much for me to do other than blood lust people and throw down exhausts and ignites. Couldn't stop Nasus from 1v4 while his team is 5~ seconds away.

You just gotta catalog the games in the back of your mind and get over them. We lost and we know why we lost and that will have to be good enough.

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Aecioo
03/28/12 6:21:00 AM
#338:


Sorry Sytha, you disconnected when the new episode of Justified was coming on and I didn't know if you were coming back, so I decided to watch that instead >_>

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Aecioo
03/28/12 6:25:00 AM
#339:


TheConductorSix posted...
Also Aecioo every time I invite you, you dot respond for like 35 minutes.


I'm very rarely actually around when my LoL is open. I just leave it open even if I'm not going to be around for hours, just like I do with steam.

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Chaotic Mind
03/28/12 6:10:00 PM
#340:


So i just bought Dr. Mundo. How do you build him for solo top? How do you build him for jungle? What runes do you need for each?

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Aecioo
03/28/12 6:34:00 PM
#341:


GAME ANYONE?!

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TheConductorSix
03/28/12 6:55:00 PM
#342:


Movespeed against a team with a good early ganker like lee sin or Mundo, hybrid if they have someone like Warwick.

Mundo rune set should be catered to the jungle because he shines there. Attack speed reds, armor yellows, scaling mr blues, spell vamp quints.

If you REALLY want to solo top then go attack damage reds and quints. At level 1 you just attack the enemy. If they fight you just laugh and when you hit half health press E and start chunking them with over 100 damage level 1. Then press exhaust when they run. never level W. Just Q and E. Rush frozen mallet and punish weak lanes by denying them everything.

OR: health regen and flat health Everywhere. Max out W and push your lane then run and counter jungle with wriggles and your W. There's nothing funnier than constantly stealing your enemies double golems starting at level 3.

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Chaotic Mind
03/28/12 7:17:00 PM
#343:


Thanks for the tips realo. What item do you start with solo top? Boots + pots?

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Aecioo
03/28/12 7:20:00 PM
#344:


fine i guess no one gets to experience sexy aecioo lol tonight

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Aecioo
03/28/12 7:29:00 PM
#345:


FINE

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KommunistKoala
03/28/12 7:32:00 PM
#346:


if you ever invited someone, maybe :(

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SythaWarrior
03/28/12 7:32:00 PM
#347:


Hey man. I just checked the topic. Only woke up a hour ago.

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SythaWarrior
03/28/12 7:38:00 PM
#348:


Koala/Aecioo/Sytha Triple Queueing. Get online and I'll likely invite everyone I can postgames.

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AfroSquirrel
03/28/12 10:32:00 PM
#349:


Unless my teammates decide they don't want to leash for me, Jungle Kayle is a beast! Catching enemies can be a bit tricky unless the laner has some more CC though.

Also, Surge on junglers is something I haven't tried before, but it's working great on Kayle. She doesn't need Flash as much as other champs with her speedboost+ult.

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McBonesII
03/28/12 11:48:00 PM
#350:


I also run Surge on jungle Kayle. It ensures that you can win an early game duel if someone tries to catch you at a buff or counter you (or might scare them into thinking you can) because most other junglers will be carrying flash.

I don't recommend dueling anyone as early-game Kayle, though, things can easily turn bad for you, especially if their team is observant and comes to help. I just focus on farming the jungle and ganking heavily, since the decent movespeed slow and the awesome damage are all most laners really need to get a kill. Lategame I love catching carries roaming their jungle and melting them before they can even react.

Ever since Stark's Fervor was removed though I've been messing with builds. Right now I'm at Wriggle's -> Zerker -> Cleaver -> Malady -> Rageblade -> situational but I might start swapping Rageblade/Malady. I also want to experiment with different rune pages, right now I run AS red/blue/quint and I think it's a little overkill

edit: I haven't tried to make Kayle work in any other slot so I don't know much of the theory, but people definitely sleep on her, I hate that Riot keeps talking about another complete rework

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