Board 8 > ITT I play Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance - Topic 2 (spoilers)

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PrivateBiscuit1
03/26/12 2:18:00 PM
#151:


Well, if he didn't run away the ENTIRE TIME, it would be more tolerable. But he does run away the entire time. And it's very obnoxious. Meanwhile, everyone else gets whittled away by rock damage and AoE rocks and stuff. I actually had a good run until Mia was killed by one of the rock launchers. I didn't realize she was at 2 life and I already used my mounted guy's turn before I could rescue her. So yeah.

(BTW, I learned that mounted guys suck on this level.)

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TsunamiXXVIII
03/26/12 7:47:00 PM
#152:


Get used to it; this pretty much sums up the entirety of Radiant Dawn. (They suffer a movement penalty indoors, giving them the same range as a non-mounted, non-magical unit. There are a hell of a lot of indoor levels, not to mention a few with cliffs, which the mounted units can't climb.)

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Peace___Frog
03/26/12 8:49:00 PM
#153:


PoR has very few levels where mounted units don't have a lot of advantages. RD brings them down to the level of everyone else.

Biscuit, are you trying to go up one side or are you splitting your units on each side? I don't know about everyone else, but I found it to be a lot easier if I only went up the left side. Then I went down the right and didn't have to worry about those rocks at all.

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PrivateBiscuit1
03/27/12 7:18:00 PM
#154:


I split up. I may try going to one side though. It's just such a b**** chasing down that SOB.

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Peace___Frog
03/27/12 7:46:00 PM
#155:


I remember I was able to lure him out with Marcia or Jill and get him to where an archer could use a Longbow on him. Just bring lots of vulneraries and I think you should be ok if you don't try rushing too much.

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charmander6000
03/29/12 10:58:00 AM
#156:


bump

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PrivateBiscuit1
03/30/12 8:36:00 PM
#157:


Tomorrow perhaps. I've got DMC HD Collection coming out soon! I should try to finish this ASAP.

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TsunamiXXVIII
04/01/12 7:45:00 AM
#158:


Going to need another bump.

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PrivateBiscuit1
04/01/12 11:46:00 AM
#159:


So I got three things to say.

First, I have three days off in a row, so I'm going to try to finish this game like ASAP.

Second, how much more do I have to go? I wanna be done.

Third, I'll be doing Devil May Cry HD Collection after this because it's a series I've always wanted to get into and have not.

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SuorGenoveffa
04/01/12 11:48:00 AM
#160:


It's almost over.

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tcaz2
04/01/12 11:49:00 AM
#161:


You have like 5 chapters left.

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PrivateBiscuit1
04/01/12 1:12:00 PM
#162:


Chapter 25: Strange Lands (Whatever Attempt)

Okay! So this went better. I had Jill and Shinon pile on the damage and (since Shinon is a crit machine) I beat the boss quickly! And then Shinon gets hit with a crit and dies.

What the f*** is going on with this s***?

ANYWAY, I succeed the next time in a glorious fashion. The most clever soldier in the world tells us to EAT ROCK after the battle when Tibarn OPs and murders all of the troops in one move. So I guess Tibarn is with us now. And then we go see King Caineghis (seriously, what is that name?) And then the king starts telling Elincia how awesome she is for defeating everyone when the b**** has done s***. It's all Ike, baby. And then Ike tells important people (and Mist and Soren) about what happened with his father going crazay. Then we learn that Ashnard is going to summon a big evil thing and blah blah blah... stop them. Then Tibarn tells Reyson that Leann was kidnapped. OH NO!

And that's it for this chapter.

Levels:
Tauroneo: Level 14+
Ike: Level 15+^^^*
Bastian: Level 13+
Lucia: Level 12+
Geoffrey: Level 11+
Haar: Level 11+

Ranulf: Level 11+*
Tanith: Level 10+
Calill: Level 10+
Boyd: Level 10+*
Muarim: Level 9+
Rhys: Level 9+*
Shinon: Level 9+*
Stefan: Level 8+
Janaff: Level 8+
Kieran: Level 8+
Astrid: Level 8+
Oscar: Level 8+

Ulki: Level 7+
Mia: Level 7+^*
Marcia: Level 7+^*
Nephenee: Level 7+^*
Ilyana: Level 6+
Gatrie: Level 6+
Jill: Level 6+^
Volke: Level 5+
Lethe: Level 4+
Devdan: Level 4+
Reyson: Level 4+
Mordecai: Level 2+
Titania: Level 2+
Soren: Level 19
Makalov: Level 15
Zihark: Level 10
Brom: Level 10
Tormod: Level 7
Mist: Level 2
Rolf: Level 2
Sothe: Level 1


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PrivateBiscuit1
04/01/12 1:38:00 PM
#163:


Chapter 26: Clash! (Pre-Battle)

So Ashnard and Black Knight are confident their army can win because Crimea is a motley crew that isn't organized. ...Even though they proceeded to take over their former land. And have currently taken out many of their top generals. I'm beginning to think there's a very good reason that Daein has been losing. There's strategy talk... and then Soren gives me the report. Nephenee was our MVP. Hell yeah girl.

I decided to check who has maxed out stats so far.

Ike is maxed out on Speed at 28.
Rhys is maxed out on Skill at 22.
Marcia is maxed out on Strength at 23.
Astrid is maxed out on Speed at 27.

Huh. Anyway, Support Convos! I got Ranulf and Ike's A one coming right up! Ranulf is freaking out because of CREEPY AURAS. Ranulf is upset he let Ike see him in this state, and then they get into a conversation about trust.

"I trust you, Ranulf."
"You say that with such a straight! Face! Ike, you're..."
"I'm what?"
"Dumb."

XD I love Ranulf.

And now we hear from Nephenee and Calill! Calill is wondering why Nephenee is being so unfashionable and tells her that it must be because of her country accent. And Calill knew... a friend who was the same.

"You know about that? But you're from the city and so..."
"Elegant? Yes, indeed. Quite so."

lol Calill is awesome. She wants to make Nephenee more pretty because it will make her miss the city. She'll even show her how to put on make up. SQUEEEEE MAKEOVEEEEEEEEEER!

Anyway, info convos. We talk to a soldier who wants to know if he should run away from fights he can't win. Ike says "Yeah, if you're sure." And then we realize the soldier is stupid. Then Tibarn says that he's taking off. ...Thanks bro. And Reyson is emo and unsure of himself (BE SURPRISED). Ike is now level 17 too.

Hopefully this next chapter won't frustrate me.

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PrivateBiscuit1
04/01/12 2:25:00 PM
#164:


Chapter 26: Clash! (Battle)

Pfffffhahahaha WHAT!? Elincia wants to fight? Are you serious? Everyone is like lolno, but Elincia wants to. Aaaaahahahaha. WAIT I HAVE TO USE HER WHYYYYYYY!? Just.... WHY!? Well, at least I can use 19 units so she isn't taking up a valuable spot.

So I have to use Ike and Elincia (ugh). And then I decide to use Rhys, obv. Then... Ranulf, Jill, Marcia, Calill, Bastian, Nephenee, Mia, Shinon, Boyd, Gatrie, Kieran, Oscar, Astrid, Volke. Uh... and I get two more. And, uh... I got two more spots. And you guys said I was using too many people! I'll bring MY GIRL Ilyana back. And... I dunno, Reyson. Sure.

I guess the main badguy, Bertram, is a snake or something. I dunno. And then Volke gets one shotted by a crit from a random soldier with the Killing Edge. Come the f*** on.

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charmander6000
04/01/12 2:35:00 PM
#165:


Elincia is so much better in Radiant Dawn, she's not terrible if you train her, I guess you could use her as secondary healing.

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MeteorExF
04/01/12 2:38:00 PM
#166:


I'm 90% sure you have to bring her to the final mission as well, so you might as well train her a bit, or just have her as another healer.

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SuorGenoveffa
04/01/12 2:41:00 PM
#167:


You don't have to. The game puts her in your team in the final chapter, but you can take her out when you're making preparations.

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SemiFinal vs Belarus
04/01/12 2:46:00 PM
#168:


elinicia is a pretty awesome mobile healbot in fe9, but not useful for much else.

fe10 elinicia, on the other hand, is a god damn badass

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PrivateBiscuit1
04/01/12 2:51:00 PM
#169:


I have a hard time thinking that anything about Elincia is badass.

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SilentWanderer
04/01/12 2:51:00 PM
#170:


Elincia would be fine...if she didn't join so late in the game at level 1 and with poor str, magic and defense to boot. I guess she's the game's Est equivalent. But yeah, just stick with healing if you use her (though you really don't)

I like this chapter, though. It's the calm before the storm.

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tcaz2
04/01/12 2:59:00 PM
#171:


I use Elincia as a back up healer since most of the last few levels give you more than usual units.

She's amazing in Radiant Dawn though.

EDIT: Also are you sure that you don't have to use Elincia in the final chapter? I just replayed the game last week and I'm fairly sure I remember that you have to.

Granted, I didn't want to remove her, though, so I might not have been paying attention.

Still fairly sure you do though.

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charmander6000
04/01/12 3:33:00 PM
#172:


No you can send Elincia back

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SilentWanderer
04/01/12 3:36:00 PM
#173:


Yes, you can send her back as I've never used her before.

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Peace___Frog
04/01/12 6:33:00 PM
#174:


Yeah, you're getting close, Biscuit. The last few chapters might make you frustrated at first, but they're not that bad if you play carefully.

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PrivateBiscuit1
04/02/12 11:22:00 AM
#175:


Going to start up again. Hopefully with less frustration!

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PrivateBiscuit1
04/02/12 1:11:00 PM
#176:


Chapter 26: Clash! (2nd Attempt)

So this went smoothly. I don't have much to say since it was pretty straight forward... but I managed to crush everybody in my way! GO ME! I had Ike crit kill Bertram who wanted Ike to kill him anyway. I had some nice level ups and I think almost everyone had a level up this chapter. So kudos to that. It was a nice and chill chapter, and I quickly learned my lesson to use ranged attacks on any f***ers with a Killer weapon.

Ashnard and this Bryce dude talk and ASHNARD SAYS THAT HE WANTS CRIMEA TO GET TO HIM! This f***ing guy... is the worst f***ing general ever. Of all time. And that's all we got for this. Just... lol this Ashnard idiot.

Levels:
Ike: Level 18+^^*
Tauroneo: Level 14+
Bastian: Level 13+
Lucia: Level 12+
Ranulf: Level 12+*
Geoffrey: Level 11+
Haar: Level 11+

Calill: Level 11+*
Boyd: Level 11+*
Tanith: Level 10+
Rhys: Level 10+*
Shinon: Level 10+*
Kieran: Level 10+**
Astrid: Level 10+**
Muarim: Level 9+
Oscar: Level 9+*
Stefan: Level 8+
Janaff: Level 8+

Mia: Level 8+*
Marcia: Level 8+*
Nephenee: Level 8+*
Jill: Level 8+**
Ulki: Level 7+
Largo: Level 7+
Ilyana: Level 7+*
Gatrie: Level 7+*
Volke: Level 7+**
Reyson: Level 5+*
Lethe: Level 4+
Devdan: Level 4+

Mordecai: Level 2+
Titania: Level 2+

Elincia: Level 2+*
Soren: Level 19
Makalov: Level 15
Zihark: Level 10
Brom: Level 10
Tormod: Level 7
Mist: Level 2
Rolf: Level 2
Sothe: Level 1


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MeteorExF
04/02/12 1:15:00 PM
#177:


You're gonna want Ike at level 20 for the next mission.

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SuorGenoveffa
04/02/12 1:17:00 PM
#178:


Uh, there's a reason for Ashnard's behavior.

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tcaz2
04/02/12 1:19:00 PM
#179:


From: PrivateBiscuit1 | #176
This f***ing guy... is the worst f***ing general ever. Of all time. And that's all we got for this. Just... lol this Ashnard idiot.


He's only an idiot if you assume his goal is to win the war.

And you should already know by now it's not.

EDIT: Actually you even made mention last writeup that they said it's not <.<

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SilentWanderer
04/02/12 1:50:00 PM
#180:


From: PrivateBiscuit1 | #176
Ashnard and this Bryce dude talk and ASHNARD SAYS THAT HE WANTS CRIMEA TO GET TO HIM! This f***ing guy... is the worst f***ing general ever. Of all time. And that's all we got for this. Just... lol this Ashnard idiot.


Think about it. By this point, Ike and the Crimean force have assembled into a destructive power. Now, what does Ashnard want? War, turmoil, destruction. And what better way to achieve that than by leading them into one giant, cataclysmic battle.

Also, Ike should be level 20. I would use bonus exp. Oh, and good luck.

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muddersmilk
04/02/12 2:13:00 PM
#181:


Man you had two extra spots to fill and you still didn't use Stefan?

That's always the level where I fill the extra spots in my ranks with characters I got at a high level and never used.

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PrivateBiscuit1
04/02/12 2:22:00 PM
#182:


Chapter 27: Moment of Fate (Pre-Battle)

So Tibarn drops by and says that the Black Knight is around. WHOO BOY! Soren gives us the report and it looks like Ike is the MVP. I can dig it. And the first thing I do is give Ike the last two levels he needs! He's maxed out at Speed, Strength, Skill, and Defense. So hoorah for him. Then I level Gatrie, Volke, and Ilyana to level 8.

And a second support convo... for Volke and Bastian! Volke and Bastian are buddies and Bastian has some good info I guess. Bastian says that his doubts about Ike and Volke are put to rest, to which Volke says "How kind of you."

"Bastian?"
"Yeeeees?"
"You're well suited to skulking behind the scenes and playing the puppeteer."

Haha. Volke asks him if he wants to change careers, but Bastian says his loyalty lies with Crimea. Alrighty then! Then only one info conversation. Weak. And then Ike just tells Titania about how Greil died. They talk about how Ike shouldn't die trying to fight him... and... I guess that's it for this pre-battle shenanigans.

PS - I get that Ashnard is all "Wooooah I want calamity!" But that's dumb for the leading general in an army. Like, if he was just one of the sub-generals, I think it'd be fine. But this dude leads an entire country of people and somehow gets to that level of power and has all of these people under him. I dunno, I think it'd be fine if he were on the level of, say, Petrine or someone... but this dude is putting calamity before the success of his country which I find very silly. I don't care for him as a villain.

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SuorGenoveffa
04/02/12 2:32:00 PM
#183:


Ashnard doesn't give a damn about Daein, he could be the king of Daein as much as he could be the king of, say, Kilvas and it'd be all the same. All he wants is power, and he thinks that the biggest power that he could get comes from the direct consequence of calamity.

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PrivateBiscuit1
04/02/12 2:34:00 PM
#184:


Yeah, but you'd think since he has a ton of power with Daein that he'd try to keep it so he could cause MORE calamity.

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SuorGenoveffa
04/02/12 2:36:00 PM
#185:


Daein is a crappy nation that could disappear as soon as Sanaki ordered so lol, there's not much power in that.

Calamity per se isn't Ashnard's goal, if you've followed the plot, there's a direct consequence that comes from trying to bring conflict to the entire continent. That's the power that he seeks.

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tcaz2
04/02/12 2:37:00 PM
#186:


From: PrivateBiscuit1 | #184
Yeah, but you'd think since he has a ton of power with Daein that he'd try to keep it so he could cause MORE calamity.


But the way for him to gain MORE power and cause MORE calamity is for Daein to fight pointless wars. And as said, there's more to it than just 'causing calamity'.

His plan, mad as it is, is fairly sensible. (Hence, "Mad King Ashnard")

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PrivateBiscuit1
04/02/12 5:08:00 PM
#187:


Chapter 27: Moment of Fate (Battle)

So Mist needs to talk to Ike during their battle meeting and Elincia is too sick to even be in a battle meeting. But we are trusting her to fight with a sword on her paladin. Oh, Elincia. And we learn that Mist interrupted this important battle meeting to have another sappy "LET'S TALK ABOUT HOW MUCH IT SUCKS THAT OUR MOM AND DAD DIED!" talk with Ike. I'd probably care more about this if I cared about Mist at all. LOL Elincia lied about feeling sick so Mist could talk to Ike right now!? What the hell!? She cares about Ike and Mist and blah blah blah...

Black Knight talks to a dude named Hafedd. Black Knight puts Hafedd in charge while he talks to Ena. So And NOW we're ready. Wait, only 11 people again!? Arrrrgh. Well, let's go back to our standard... Ike and Rhys. Then Volke for thievery. Then Ranulf, Jill, Calill, Gatrie, Boyd, Shinon, Mia, and... Kieran, for a second axe user. I feel bad I don't have a second magic user but... we'll see.

I had A LOT of crappy level ups. However, everyone leveled up a lot! So yay for that! It was easy when I got everyone bunched up and cleared the map together. No real problems, but I took it slow eventually as Volke was stealing everything. And then I even stole an Occult from the boss (because I figured I'd not get it if I didn't.) I killed the boss by attacking with the top tier fire attack from Calill and then a snipe with Shinon followed by a Tomahawk from Boyd. And then I had Boyd finish him off after that. Goooo team.

Ike then tells us that he's going ahead to face the Black Knight! And then Soren wants to join, but Titania is like "BELIEVE IN IKE" and he is begrudgingly cool with it. So Nasir and Ena are lovers and Ena tells Black Knight to just kill her and tell Nasir she's sorry. Black Knight says he will, then cuts her down. But somehow this big hulking badass screwed up on killing her with his giant weapon. Not quiet sure how that works! AND THEN MIST COMES RUNNING IN!? What is wrong with my entire army that they could not keep this dumb b**** from running in and ruining Ike's awesome moment?

Wait, I have to fight him!? Oh god. Luckily Ike hits two of his Aethers that manage to take him down, even though this f***er hit a crit on me. So Ike took down DA BLACK KNIGHT'S CANDY ASS and then a trap is sprung. Nasir then runs in out of nowhere. Then everyone runs. Oh, the castle collapsed. That's a bumski. Then Titania praises Ike AND Mist. Really? Praise that brat for waving around a staff? Yeah, she's really awesome. Ena and Nasir are fine now, I guess. Nasir is Ena's grandfather I guess. lol Anyway, Ike lets him stick around and doesn't stick his sword in him if he helps out, so yay.

And that's it for this chapter!

Levels:
Ike: Level 20+^^
Tauroneo: Level 14+
Bastian: Level 13+

Ranulf: Level 13+*
Boyd: Level 13+**
Lucia: Level 12+
Calill: Level 12+*
Rhys: Level 12+**
Shinon: Level 12+**
Kieran: Level 12+**
Geoffrey: Level 11+
Haar: Level 11+

Tanith: Level 10+
Astrid: Level 10+
Gatrie: Level 10+^**
Muarim: Level 9+
Oscar: Level 9+

Mia: Level 9+*
Jill: Level 9+*
Volke: Level 9+^*
Stefan: Level 8+
Janaff: Level 8+

Marcia: Level 8+
Nephenee: Level 8+

Ilyana: Level 8+^
Ulki: Level 7+
Largo: Level 7+
Reyson: Level 5+
Lethe: Level 4+
Devdan: Level 4+
Mordecai: Level 2+
Titania: Level 2+
Elincia: Level 2+*
Soren: Level 19
Makalov: Level 15
Zihark: Level 10
Brom: Level 10
Tormod: Level 7

Mist: Level 2
Rolf: Level 2
Sothe: Level 1


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PrivateBiscuit1
04/02/12 5:08:00 PM
#188:


Btw, who should I use my new Occult on? Any good prospects?

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MeteorExF
04/02/12 5:23:00 PM
#189:


Who have you used the other three on? Ike, Volke and ?

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PrivateBiscuit1
04/02/12 5:28:00 PM
#190:


There's a third one?

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PrivateBiscuit1
04/02/12 5:29:00 PM
#191:


I got one from Stefan and another one from Tauroneo. Did I miss one?

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MeteorExF
04/02/12 5:29:00 PM
#192:


There's four total if I remember correctly, let me check where.

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MeteorExF
04/02/12 5:31:00 PM
#193:


-Chapter 13, the top-left chest on the top ship.

-Recruit Stefan in Ch. 15, then talk to him in the Info
menu between battles, and he'll give you an Occult.

-Chapter 21, Tauroneo has one just recruit him with Ike and the scroll will come with him.

-Chapter 27, the boss in that chapter will drop it.


You probably missed the one on the ship, the one where you get Astrid and Gatrie. I guess ultimately it doesn't matter who the last one goes to, it should be someone you use a lot, and not a healer.

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SilentWanderer
04/02/12 5:42:00 PM
#194:


Personally, I'd use it on Mia. (Unless you don't have room for it anymore) Astra is definitely one of the coolest looking Occult skills.

Also, congrats on beating the BK since good luck plays a part in defeating him.

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Tehmoosey1
04/02/12 5:56:00 PM
#195:


Astra is awful, though. It's nothing more than a good way to break your weapons.

Gatrie and Kieran might be good choices, Luna and Sol are some of the better Occult skills.

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tcaz2
04/02/12 6:16:00 PM
#196:


From: Tehmoosey1 | #195
Astra is awful, though. It's nothing more than a good way to break your weapons.


...What?

Astra only uses durability as many hits as it takes to take down an enemy, you realize, right?

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Tehmoosey1
04/02/12 6:23:00 PM
#197:


And each hit deals half damage.

He's not playing Radiant Dawn, you know.

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charmander6000
04/02/12 6:43:00 PM
#198:


Astra only uses durability as many hits as it takes to take down an enemy, you realize, right?

Nope it uses 5 weapon in PoR

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tcaz2
04/02/12 6:57:00 PM
#199:


From: Tehmoosey1 | #197
And each hit deals half damage.


Yes, but you still hit more than 2 times.

From: charmander6000 | #198
Nope it uses 5 weapon in PoR


You would be wrong, as I specifically made note of what it did in my game last week. Mia had 4 uses left on a brave sword, used astra, killed an enemy in 3 hits, and had 1 use left. In PoR.

EDIT: In fact, I just double checked and loaded up an earlier save and sent Mia into a bunch of enemies. 17 uses on a silver sword. Astra activated. Enemy died, 15 uses on the silver sword remaining.

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Tehmoosey1
04/02/12 7:01:00 PM
#200:


So, with five hits, at half damage each, you get slightly less damage than a critical hit. And you've burned five uses off of a Killing Edge, Brave Sword, or Vague Katti, just for less damage than a critical. I think I would take any skill in the game, even useless ones like Miracle, over Astra.

At least those don't actively hurt you to use them.

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