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SlymDayspring
02/29/12 8:28:00 AM
#53:


Yeah, I have lost to several bosses...but not from Doom.

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Silvercross
02/29/12 9:16:00 AM
#54:


Leebo86 posted...
From: Silvercross | #001
7 minutes for a trash fight that gives me 100 experience
This shouldn't happen in a random battle unless you're underleveled.


I'm fairly well leveled, almost every role is maxed on most of my characters, but I'll still get into fights with say... one of those big armored lizards, and that takes a good while to get through with relatively no reward.

And then it happens a lot with any of the robot things, or large groups of the heavily armored Psi-Com groups. I mean, even in a battle that I feel goes perfectly (staggering, buffs, good Paradigm switching), I still feel like 2 or 3 minutes is way too long to be spending on a fight, just to end up with no spoils, and 2 or fewer stars, even though I guess those don't really matter.

Anyway, I'm gonna try getting through the Palamecium tonight and see how I feel.

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ZFS
02/29/12 9:28:00 AM
#55:


Yeah, a timer appears on only a few boss battles, and even then it's not that hard to finish in time. I mean, maybe it gets you once, but it shouldn't be much of a problem.

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CrimsonOcean
02/29/12 9:29:00 AM
#56:


Hm, if you're only getting two stars then yeah, the battles are probably taking too long.
I dunno what I would suggest though. You could try starting to upgrade your weapons, that might give you the boost your looking for.
The armored lizards are suppose to be pretty tough. I think they told you that going through Sunleth Waterscape. I think they actually suggested that you try and run past them. You have to stagger them with your RAVs before you can really do any damage. As for PSI-COM and stuff, 2-3 minute battles aren't really all that long. I mean, I'm post game and almost maxed out on my crystarium and I'm just now getting into fights that are really, really fast. Like 30 seconds or less. So I dunno what you expect with that =/

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ZFS
02/29/12 9:30:00 AM
#57:


Yeah, armored lizards will take too long unless you get a preemptive strike and stagger them. Preemptive strikes in general would help in speeding things up.

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Leebo86
02/29/12 9:31:00 AM
#58:


From: CrimsonOcean | #055
You could try starting to upgrade your weapons, that might give you the boost your looking for.


Upgrading your weapons would count as an improvement to your stats and would reduce the target time, so it probably wouldn't change your star rating much.

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LeonhartFour
02/29/12 9:39:00 AM
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Darn right. You are losing out on sharing my enjoyability if you do not enjoy it.

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SomeKindOfJoke
02/29/12 9:42:00 AM
#60:


Doom is there so you can't cheese your way through a fight by switching to COM/MED/MED or COM/SEN/MED and leaving the game on for an hour. I imagine it makes low-level/ No Crystarium runs annoying, but at least it has a point, unlike forcing a game over if your leader dies.

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LeonhartFour
02/29/12 9:44:00 AM
#61:


Yeah, I think I only had one boss that cast Doom on me, and that was because I was playing ridiculously conservatively, which generally isn't necessary for storyline bosses if you're properly leveled.

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CrimsonOcean
02/29/12 9:51:00 AM
#62:


Leebo86 posted...
From: CrimsonOcean | #055
You could try starting to upgrade your weapons, that might give you the boost your looking for.
Upgrading your weapons would count as an improvement to your stats and would reduce the target time, so it probably wouldn't change your star rating much.


Yeah but I don't think he cares about star ranking. Just length of battle.

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SlymDayspring
02/29/12 10:26:00 AM
#63:


just curious, what characters do you guys use?

I use Light/Sazh/Vanille, with Sazh invested a bit in the Sentinel role. It covers all my basis and I like it, but I wouldn't be shocked if there weren't better setups.

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SomeKindOfJoke
02/29/12 10:27:00 AM
#64:


Lightning/Fang/Hope all day every day.

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GuessMyUserName
02/29/12 10:28:00 AM
#65:


From: SlymDayspring | Posted: 2/29/2012 1:26:13 PM | #063
Light/Sazh/Vanille


exactly this

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LeonhartFour
02/29/12 10:28:00 AM
#66:


At this point in the game, Lightning/Sazh/Fang because Sazh is the only one who has Haste.

Once Hope gets Haste, party switches to Fang/Lightning/Hope.

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CrimsonOcean
02/29/12 10:29:00 AM
#67:


Lightning/Fang/Vanille

Sarted out with Lightning/Fang/Sazh but I wanted a better MED/RAV so I switched in Vanille and never looked back. Didn't really need the buffs that bad, and when I did I just used the sprays. Missed Haste a lot though. It was a godsend when Fang finally got it.

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SlymDayspring
02/29/12 10:37:00 AM
#68:


lol nobody uses snow.

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LeonhartFour
02/29/12 10:40:00 AM
#69:


I use Snow if I ever need a good Sentinel for a tough fight since that's all he really does better than anyone else.

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CrimsonOcean
02/29/12 10:42:00 AM
#70:


Thing with Snow is yeah he's got more HP, but just put some HP boosting accessories on Fang and she's better in literally every way.

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Tornadoman78
02/29/12 10:44:00 AM
#71:


just give up on the game like how i did you wont beat it anyway

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LeonhartFour
02/29/12 10:48:00 AM
#72:


quit whining ertyu

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SlymDayspring
02/29/12 10:52:00 AM
#73:


I rarely ever actually use the Sentinel role and when I do it is usually for a short time while light/vanille heal, so even Sazh does a good enough job at it for my needs.

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Tornadoman78
02/29/12 11:01:00 AM
#74:


im only telling him this for his on good

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LeonhartFour
02/29/12 11:02:00 AM
#75:


From: Tornadoman78 | #075
im only telling him this for his on good


no youre not youre just being a baby because everyone else can beat the game and you cant

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Silvercross
02/29/12 11:02:00 AM
#76:


Yeah, like Crimson said, I don't really care about star ranking at this point, I'd just like to make the fights feel less tedious. I guess my plan when I get home will be to spend all my money on buying components, and then upgrade some weapons.

Honestly, I really want to finish the game, so I appreciate the advice/opinions.

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Kirby Driver Reborn
02/29/12 11:55:00 AM
#77:


From: CrimsonOcean | #067
Lightning/Fang/Vanille


used this. after I maxed out Fang I just ran out solo'ing things with her.

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Silvercross
02/29/12 12:00:00 PM
#18:


The only thing the drops is upgrade components, and most of those only sell for about 14gil, and I'd rather just use them to upgrade at that point.

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LeonhartFour
02/29/12 12:00:00 PM
#19:


Weird, I don't really recall having major cash problems when I played, but I may be misremembering. It's been a while since I've played.

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BIGPUN9999
02/29/12 12:00:00 PM
#78:


Light,fang, sazh all night lomg

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GuessMyUserName
02/29/12 12:12:00 PM
#79:


XIII upgrade system is the absolute worst upgrade system of all time

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CrimsonOcean
02/29/12 12:19:00 PM
#80:


Silvercross, here are a few tips for maximizing gil when upgrading weapons:

- 36 Sturdy Bones, Barbed Tails, or Vibrant Oozes will give you a maximum (3x) component multiplier on any weapon or accessory.
- From least to most these are the components with the best Gil => Experience Ratio:
* Superconductor
* Perfect Conductor
* Particle Accelerator
* Ultracompact Reactor

You shouldn't need to buy any Ultracompact Reactors this early on in upgrading though.

And you probably already know this but it might help you to better set up your paradigms.
Class each character is best at:
- Lightning : Ravager
- Fang : Commando
- Vanille : Saboteur
- Sazh : Synergist
- Snow : Sentinel
- Hope : Medic

But of course each character can be well suited to multiple roles. Those are just what everyone is suppose to be "best" at. This info was pretty helpful to me as I was playing.

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Tornadoman78
02/29/12 12:34:00 PM
#81:


ya what ever he wont be able to beat it either and im sure their are some people besides me who havent beaten the game

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ZFS
02/29/12 12:43:00 PM
#82:


- Fang
+ Snow

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SlymDayspring
02/29/12 12:46:00 PM
#83:


XIII upgrade system is the absolute worst upgrade system of all time

this

nothing is fun or interesting about it

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The Mana Sword
02/29/12 12:47:00 PM
#84:


ZFS posted...
- Fang
+ Snow


my how times have changed

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ZFS
02/29/12 12:51:00 PM
#85:


It's alright. Certainly not the best upgrade system, but it's not awful. It'd be nice if you got better materials more consistently (1 EXP stuff no thanks), but once you start getting EXP boosts it's good.

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Silvercross
02/29/12 12:57:00 PM
#86:


CrimsonOcean posted...
Silvercross, here are a few tips for maximizing gil when upgrading weapons:

- 36 Sturdy Bones, Barbed Tails, or Vibrant Oozes will give you a maximum (3x) component multiplier on any weapon or accessory.
- From least to most these are the components with the best Gil => Experience Ratio:
* Superconductor
* Perfect Conductor
* Particle Accelerator
* Ultracompact Reactor

You shouldn't need to buy any Ultracompact Reactors this early on in upgrading though.


Wow, thanks!

This'll definitely make things easier.

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BIGPUN9999
02/29/12 1:02:00 PM
#87:


Even though hes an inferior character from a gameplay point of view, i liked snows design and would've totally made him work for me if i liked him more but he was pretty disappointing as a character storywise imo.
Either way ill understand if someone likes him BUT putting him over Fang is absurd!

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LeonhartFour
02/29/12 1:05:00 PM
#88:


Putting him over Fang is pretty easy.

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CrimsonOcean
02/29/12 1:07:00 PM
#89:


Putting anyone over Fang is absurd.
No prob Silvercross!

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SlymDayspring
02/29/12 1:18:00 PM
#90:


Fang is actually my least favorite character in the main cast....nothing wrong with her, really, just her style and demeanor kind of turn me off. I like Snow, but I definitely wanted Light/Sazh and Snow just was not a good fit there (and I feel like his three mains are tough to fit in any group optimally) so I went with Vanille.

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Tornadoman78
02/29/12 1:28:00 PM
#91:


what ever this game is dumb anyway

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DigitalIncision
02/29/12 1:31:00 PM
#92:


this game put me to sleep

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GuessMyUserName
02/29/12 1:36:00 PM
#93:


The only playable character Fang is better than is Hope.

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BIGPUN9999
02/29/12 1:37:00 PM
#94:


GuessMyUserName posted...
The only playable character Fang is better than is Hope.

Ok what the hell is wrong with you

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kevwaffles
02/29/12 1:45:00 PM
#95:


From: BIGPUN9999 | #094
GuessMyUserName posted...
The only playable character Fang is better than is Hope.

Ok what the hell is wrong with you


Well at least he got Hope's ranking correct.

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LeonhartFour
02/29/12 1:46:00 PM
#96:


Not even.

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BIGPUN9999
02/29/12 1:57:00 PM
#97:


Eh
Well
True that

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GuessMyUserName
02/29/12 2:03:00 PM
#98:


Fang just never really grabbed my attention. I do moderately like the rest of the cast, but Fang I just never cared for.


But all that really matters in FFXIII's character ranking is Sazh >>>>>> the rest >>>>>>>>>>>> Hope

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VincentLauw
02/29/12 2:17:00 PM
#99:


I really really liked this game about 5 hours in

then 5 hours later I still wandered around on some parts with 2 party members and felt like an incredible chore

then my party finally got back together and I haven't played the game since. Dunno why, just forgot about it I guess

It definitely has issues with pacing

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Silvercross
02/29/12 5:37:00 PM
#100:


Oh, it's trivia night tonight, so I won't be picking this back up until tomorrow after work.

I'm gonna upgrade my weapons like a mofo.

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