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WazzupGenius00
02/28/12 9:45:00 PM
#201:


So Renic just said on Cross Counter that the way finals work at FR, the first round is a 2v2 (didn't say whether it was Tag or Scramble) of him and Josh vs. Subzero and Hornett, and the team that wins then has to go head to head.

So basically finals = Renic v Josh confirmed

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blindhobo13
02/28/12 9:45:00 PM
#202:


How the **** do they keep ****ing up the format?

This **** is stupid.

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WazzupGenius00
02/28/12 9:50:00 PM
#203:


well it's supposed to be Team SF vs Team Tekken and Hornett and SubZero were the two who ended up on Team Tekken in the end

so props to Josh and Renic for gaming the system

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Biolizard28
02/28/12 10:05:00 PM
#204:


Oh god

Mike Ross and Gootecks are f***ing pissed at Arturo.

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blindhobo13
02/28/12 10:07:00 PM
#205:


"You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain."

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TheKoolAidShoto
02/28/12 10:08:00 PM
#206:


Art thrown under the bus and EEEEEEVIL Mike Ross

goddamn, I LOOOOOOOVE this Final Fight stage

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Rad Link 5
02/29/12 6:50:00 PM
#207:


So uh
http://penny-arcade.com/report/editorial-article/sexual-harassment-as-ethical-imperative-the-ugly-side-of-fighting-games

For real?

Jesus Christ.

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OmarsComin
02/29/12 6:54:00 PM
#208:


yeah a bunch of people from the general game community who have no clue about the FG community have been chiming in with their two cents, usually without merit
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WazzupGenius00
02/29/12 6:57:00 PM
#209:


Already posted 50 posts ago dude!

And I like how he thinks reposting Tom Cannon's SRK article today is "good enough" to make up for the fact that he wrote a really poor article. Cherry-picked forum posts from trolls as sources of how the community feels? Really?

The only article that did a decent job though still not that great was Giant Bomb. I think it's telling that they seem to be the only ones whom Aris sent any kind of statement to. Looks like Klepek is trying to reach out to some other members of the community to to learn more, too.

Here's a good article about how gaming journalism's coverage of this was a piece of s***: http://www.itbrog.com/journal/2012/2/29/the-freak-the-geek-games-journalisms-coverage-of-sub-culture.html

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Forceful_Dragon
02/29/12 11:44:00 PM
#210:


From: WazzupGenius00 | #209
Here's a good article about how gaming journalism's coverage of this was a piece of s***: http://www.itbrog.com/journal/2012/2/29/the-freak-the-geek-games-journalisms-coverage-of-sub-culture.html




Wow, that's an amazing read.


And Aris makes a much better accounting of himself in a follow up response:

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/g65iqn

But article hits the nail on the head so hard. Yeah Aris screwed up, but they can at least check facts before running with a juicy story.

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WazzupGenius00
03/01/12 12:32:00 AM
#211:


or act like the FGC exists at all outside of EVO and when controversies that will garner hits occur

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Rad Link 5
03/01/12 1:53:00 AM
#212:


Well, it is a niche community. Ignoring niche communities until something juicy happens is how they make a living. They gotta print what people will read, and most of them have too mainstream an audience for people to care about Season's Beatings or anything like that.

What I wanna know is whyyy Capcom put a mic on Aris. Or allowed him anywhere near a mic. Or even allowed him to attend this at all. He is not a man I want associated my product if I'm a company. Saying things like that is what he's known for. Like yeah, you can blame Aris for being kind of a dumbass, but what kind of things did they expect him to say?

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Biolizard28
03/01/12 9:29:00 AM
#213:


I think Capcom just wanted to put a fun personality on the mic, but seemed to forget that Aris's brand of humor is very personal. This wouldn't have been a big deal if this wasn't streamed for like 12 hours a day for a week straight. I can't speak for Aris's character, but I'm fairly sure that making someone feel this way is the last thing he wanted to happen. That being said, his comments about how the fighting game community is based on misogyny and all that s*** is despicable.

What's the saying? "You can't go home again?"

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WazzupGenius00
03/01/12 9:42:00 AM
#214:


LMAO

http://kotaku.com/5889637/fighting-game-webcast-wednesday-night-fights-takes-a-cheap-hit-on-cross-assault-harassment-controversy

I was watching last night and saw this coming when they made some of those jokes

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PrivateBiscuit1
03/01/12 9:46:00 AM
#215:


Oh my god. That article legitimately pisses me off.

And the comments there are so ignorant. "NO! THIS GUY NEVER APOLOGIZED ONCE TO THE GIRL!" Despite Spooky saying himself that he's apologized multiple times.

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Rad Link 5
03/01/12 9:52:00 AM
#216:


From: Biolizard28 | #213
That being said, his comments about how the fighting game community is based on misogyny and all that s*** is despicable.


The thing is I think (or maybe just hope) he was trying to say something different than what actually came out of his mouth. I think what he wanted to say (but wasn't linguistically skilled enough or just plain smart enough to) was that "I don't believe it's a problem so long as you know where people's lines are and don't cross them. People at my arcade are fine with jokes that might come across as misogynistic outside of our personal conversations, and I don't think anyone should tell us we can't make such jokes while no one is being offended."

I'm probably giving him way too much credit, though.

From: WazzupGenius00 | #214
LMAO

http://kotaku.com/5889637/fighting-game-webcast-wednesday-night-fights-takes-a-cheap-hit-on-cross-assault-harassment-controversy


Now see, this is kind of sickening. They keep referring to the offender in this case as "the genre's enthusiasts" where they should be saying "Aris." It's not nearly as juicy a story to say one dope said something stupid as it is to say a whole group of people are a bunch of immature, malice-hearted punks.

I'm not even going to mention them bringing Level|Up's mission statement into things for some inexplicable reason. Ridiculous.

And the worst part about this is that it's prompting members of the community to get defensive over something they shouldn't have to be defensive over and making them defend a guy they shouldn't defend. It's making the whole community looks worse and worse.

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PrivateBiscuit1
03/01/12 10:16:00 AM
#217:


I think I'm going to send a query to The Escapist to write an article about this and try to give a more positive spin on the Fighting Game Community and defend them. Because this is asinine and I think they need some kind of official support right now.

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PrivateBiscuit1
03/01/12 11:17:00 AM
#218:


Welp, I made my query way too long. I'll probably scale it back before sending it in.

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Biolizard28
03/01/12 1:27:00 PM
#219:


http://www.levelup-series.com/statement-regarding-wednesday-night-fights/

I thought we were better than this s***.

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Rad Link 5
03/01/12 1:31:00 PM
#220:


I guess I haven't been following closely enough. What did Marn and Christian have to do with this? Was this a follow-up incident?

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WazzupGenius00
03/01/12 1:38:00 PM
#221:


They made some harmless jokes about harassment

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Biolizard28
03/01/12 1:38:00 PM
#222:


Not home right now, but I remember Marn making a few jokes about the situation.

It's f***ed up. The community is going to split itself before esports is even a factor.

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BlackMetalex
03/01/12 1:42:00 PM
#223:


Biolizard28 posted...
http://www.levelup-series.com/statement-regarding-wednesday-night-fights/

I thought we were better than this s***.


The real tragedy is that they didn't make Marn apologize for his awful freestyling at the end of last WNF, amirite? I always thought it's stupid how easily people get offended, but this is like the first time I've really experienced it firsthand. These public apologies are really stupid.
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Rad Link 5
03/01/12 1:43:00 PM
#224:


"harmless jokes about harassment" has me imagining the worst after all this.

I'll go try to find it I guess.

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WazzupGenius00
03/01/12 1:45:00 PM
#225:


it's in the video that's in the kotaku article a few posts above

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Rad Link 5
03/01/12 1:52:00 PM
#226:


Jesus. For that they're not going to be invited back? Ridiculous. And it's just a reminder of what a tragedy it is that Kotaku has even half the readership it does.

I have a feeling Level|Up will "forget" about the ban in a few months, but that's still ridiculous.

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WazzupGenius00
03/01/12 1:55:00 PM
#227:


well yeah probably

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Rad Link 5
03/01/12 1:56:00 PM
#228:


http://kotaku.com/5889701/help-us-say-something-nice-about-fighting-gamers

Ahahahaha

Kotaku literally becoming the Fox News of internet gaming sites.

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Forceful_Dragon
03/01/12 1:59:00 PM
#229:


Everyone should commentate like the UltraChen duo.

(serious post. They are really the best at it. Tasty steve is pretty solid too)

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WazzupGenius00
03/01/12 2:07:00 PM
#230:


SRK pulling sponsorship of WNF, and pulling EVO points from the first season of WNF

http://shoryuken.com/2012/03/01/hurtful-speech-time-to-take-a-good-look-in-the-mirror/

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Forceful_Dragon
03/01/12 2:10:00 PM
#231:


o_O


really??

really???


Idiots pop off on the mic and that is what happens?

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Rad Link 5
03/01/12 2:17:00 PM
#232:


Well, I sincerely hope this is another nail in Evo's coffin and that I'm not just imagining a coffin. Rather than rant about them, I'm just going to say "lol Evo."

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WazzupGenius00
03/01/12 2:19:00 PM
#233:


k

sorry your favorite game that has 100 tournament participants doesn't get the most screentime

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Biolizard28
03/01/12 2:21:00 PM
#234:


From: WazzupGenius00 | #230
SRK pulling sponsorship of WNF, and pulling EVO points from the first season of WNF

http://shoryuken.com/2012/03/01/hurtful-speech-time-to-take-a-good-look-in-the-mirror/


Holy crap, we're sinking.

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Rad Link 5
03/01/12 2:22:00 PM
#235:


From: WazzupGenius00 | #233
k

sorry your favorite game that has 100 tournament participants doesn't get the most screentime




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Oranejo
03/01/12 3:09:00 PM
#236:


From: Forceful_Dragon | #229
Everyone should commentate like the UltraChen duo.

(serious post. They are really the best at it. Tasty steve is pretty solid too)


I like the UltraChen combo, but sometimes they can be pretty boring. I prefer east coast stuff like Yipes/Matrix and Aquasilk/Hu.

All of these recent events are pretty depressing for the FGC.

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GANON1025
03/01/12 3:13:00 PM
#237:


You people are disgusting.

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Biolizard28
03/01/12 3:17:00 PM
#238:


Mr. Wizard really screwed up here.

We really don't need to involve Evo in this. This isn't a community problem. Or at least, we needn't turn it into one.

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Panthera
03/01/12 3:33:00 PM
#239:


From: Oranejo | #236
I like the UltraChen combo, but sometimes they can be pretty boring. I prefer east coast stuff like Yipes/Matrix and Aquasilk/Hu.

All of these recent events are pretty depressing for the FGC.


UltraChen can be a bit "boring" (although not that much I think) but I like them for the fact that they tend to stay focused, a lot of the more excitable guys have a tendency to turn their commentary into a series of running jokes and memes that's less about the actual match.

And anyway...this whole thing is pretty ridiculous. Aris saying dumb stuff is sadly not unexpected and makes me wonder what the **** anyone was thinking putting him in a position to look like a representative of the community, even someone who has only heard him a few times knows the idea of a "not appropriate to say this" filter is alien to him. Most of everything else is just bad journalism using him to pretend the entire community is like that, and then taking any disagreement as a sign that the person in question must agree with everything Aris did/said as opposed to being annoyed at the misrepresentation.

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WazzupGenius00
03/01/12 3:42:00 PM
#240:


From: Biolizard28 | #238
Mr. Wizard really screwed up here.

We really don't need to involve Evo in this. This isn't a community problem. Or at least, we needn't turn it into one.


thing is that it's being repeatedly portrayed as a community problem, and to some extent I think mistreatment of girls (read: NOT sexual harassment) is a community problem, so they have to take some kind of action or else the journalists will next say "EVO endorses these actions because they didn't do anything"

They didn't ban anyone from coming or anything like that, and I'm sure that come this time next year the WNF season will be able to work with SRK again.

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blindhobo13
03/01/12 3:51:00 PM
#241:


From: WazzupGenius00 | #230
SRK pulling sponsorship of WNF, and pulling EVO points from the first season of WNF

http://shoryuken.com/2012/03/01/hurtful-speech-time-to-take-a-good-look-in-the-mirror/


The **** is this bull****.

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Biolizard28
03/01/12 5:11:00 PM
#242:


thing is that it's being repeatedly portrayed as a community problem, and to some extent I think mistreatment of girls (read: NOT sexual harassment) is a community problem, so they have to take some kind of action or else the journalists will next say "EVO endorses these actions because they didn't do anything"

I understand what you're trying to say, but appealing to a bunch of uninformed media hounds isn't how you band a community together. Mr. Wizard runs THE major tournament in the US, and one of the biggest in the world. He's supposed to stand up for our community, not bend over.

They didn't ban anyone from coming or anything like that, and I'm sure that come this time next year the WNF season will be able to work with SRK again.

Next year is a long time off, and even if they let WNF back on, the damage is done.

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