Board 8 > All-Purpose Wrestling Topic 175: The Scummiest Business.

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TheRock1525 02/26/12 4:06:00 PM #101:	Thats not how wrestling works! Why not? That's how Hogan/Rock worked! -- TheRock ~ Slow dramatic zoom-pan. Doesn't phase the hooded man. "You have issues." - MWC. Pot. Kettle. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:840138] in All-Purpos... [t:62071855]...</cite> <quote> Thats not how wrestling works!Why not? That's how Hogan/Rock worked! -- TheRock ~ Slow dramatic zoom-pan. Doesn't phase the hooded man."You have issues." - MWC. Pot. Kettle. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 02/26/12 4:07:00 PM #102:	Jericho and Kane feuded over a cup of coffee! Booker T and Edge feuded over a shampoo commercial! "Just because" is preferable to those! -- TheRock ~ Slow dramatic zoom-pan. Doesn't phase the hooded man. "You have issues." - MWC. Pot. Kettle. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:840139] in All-Purpos... [t:62071855]...</cite> <quote> Jericho and Kane feuded over a cup of coffee!Booker T and Edge feuded over a shampoo commercial!"Just because" is preferable to those! -- TheRock ~ Slow dramatic zoom-pan. Doesn't phase the hooded man."You have issues." - MWC. Pot. Kettle. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
edwardsdv 02/26/12 4:09:00 PM #103:	Did you really just compare two one-off mid-card angles to a Wrestlemania main event thats been built over the better part of a year and half? -- http://img.imgcake.com/nio/81edpngej.png edwardsdv and swordz9 are basically the comedy heel tag team of this topic, why would people be taking them seriously? <cite>edwardsdv posted [p:840140] in All-Purpos... [t:62071855]...</cite> <quote> Did you really just compare two one-off mid-card angles to a Wrestlemania main event thats been built over the better part of a year and half? -- http://img.imgcake.com/nio/81edpngej.pngedwardsdv and swordz9 are basically the comedy heel tag team of this topic, why would people be taking them seriously? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FFDragon 02/26/12 4:10:00 PM #104:	"built" -- If you wake up at a different time, in a different place, could you wake up as a different person? [HERO'S PLUNGE] http://img.imgcake.com/finegifdy.gif <cite>FFDragon posted [p:840141] in All-Purpos... [t:62071855]...</cite> <quote> "built" -- If you wake up at a different time, in a different place, could you wake up as a different person? [HERO'S PLUNGE]http://img.imgcake.com/finegifdy.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CM_Rock 02/26/12 4:11:00 PM #105:	Jericho and Punk are feuding because Jericho called him a wannabe! Why does it need some elaborate storyline? Rock hates Cena. Cena hates Rock. They will fight. The End. Good enough for me. -- CM Rock ~ Best in the World. <cite>CM_Rock posted [p:840142] in All-Purpos... [t:62071855]...</cite> <quote> Jericho and Punk are feuding because Jericho called him a wannabe!Why does it need some elaborate storyline? Rock hates Cena. Cena hates Rock. They will fight. The End. Good enough for me. -- CM Rock ~ Best in the World. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
edwardsdv 02/26/12 4:12:00 PM #106:	From: CM_Rock \| #105 Jericho and Punk are feuding because Jericho called him a wannabe! Why does it need some elaborate storyline? Rock hates Cena. Cena hates Rock. They will fight. The End. Good enough for me. Until literally monday Cena basically said "Eh the Rock hes okay, I respect him, even if he hates me." Compare to even some of the weaker Wrestlemanias like Bam Bam Bigelow vs. Lawrence Taylor thats kind of weak. -- http://img.imgcake.com/nio/81edpngej.png edwardsdv and swordz9 are basically the comedy heel tag team of this topic, why would people be taking them seriously? <cite>edwardsdv posted [p:840143] in All-Purpos... [t:62071855]...</cite> <quote> From: CM_Rock \| #105Jericho and Punk are feuding because Jericho called him a wannabe!Why does it need some elaborate storyline? Rock hates Cena. Cena hates Rock. They will fight. The End. Good enough for me.Until literally monday Cena basically said "Eh the Rock hes okay, I respect him, even if he hates me."Compare to even some of the weaker Wrestlemanias like Bam Bam Bigelow vs. Lawrence Taylor thats kind of weak. -- http://img.imgcake.com/nio/81edpngej.pngedwardsdv and swordz9 are basically the comedy heel tag team of this topic, why would people be taking them seriously? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Viktor Vaughn 02/26/12 4:15:00 PM #107:	dynamite davey meltzer lays down the law -- bad advice http://www.last.fm/user/snowcampsoldier <cite>Viktor Vaughn posted [p:840144] in All-Purpos... [t:62071855]...</cite> <quote> dynamite davey meltzer lays down the law -- bad advicehttp://www.last.fm/user/snowcampsoldier </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CM_Rock 02/26/12 4:16:00 PM #108:	Did you completely miss the raps where he said the Rock can kiss his ass and the Rock can blow him? That doesn't sound like he respects him at all. -- CM Rock ~ Best in the World. <cite>CM_Rock posted [p:840145] in All-Purpos... [t:62071855]...</cite> <quote> Did you completely miss the raps where he said the Rock can kiss his ass and the Rock can blow him?That doesn't sound like he respects him at all. -- CM Rock ~ Best in the World. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Highwind89 02/26/12 4:19:00 PM #109:	tag <cite>Highwind89 posted [p:840146] in All-Purpos... [t:62071855]...</cite> <quote> tag </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GTM 02/26/12 4:20:00 PM #110:	I may have missed it. it's harder to pay attention to a conversation between two people when only one guy shows up -- Boko United - MenjiTMFan267 Guru Taken Miraculously by SuperNiceDog <cite>GTM posted [p:840147] in All-Purpos... [t:62071855]...</cite> <quote> I may have missed it.it's harder to pay attention to a conversation between two people when only one guy shows up -- Boko United - MenjiTMFan267Guru Taken Miraculously by SuperNiceDog </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 02/26/12 4:21:00 PM #111:	In a perfect world, the other guy wouldn't show up at all. Sadly, I have to watch him and Kane have the most boring feud of all time. -- TheRock ~ Slow dramatic zoom-pan. Doesn't phase the hooded man. "You have issues." - MWC. Pot. Kettle. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:840148] in All-Purpos... [t:62071855]...</cite> <quote> In a perfect world, the other guy wouldn't show up at all.Sadly, I have to watch him and Kane have the most boring feud of all time. -- TheRock ~ Slow dramatic zoom-pan. Doesn't phase the hooded man."You have issues." - MWC. Pot. Kettle. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voltch 02/26/12 4:22:00 PM #112:	From: Viktor Vaughn \| #107 dynamite davey meltzer lays down the law He really mad. -- Dr voltchball - best in the world. <cite>voltch posted [p:840149] in All-Purpos... [t:62071855]...</cite> <quote> From: Viktor Vaughn \| #107dynamite davey meltzer lays down the lawHe really mad. -- Dr voltchball - best in the world. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wanglicious 02/26/12 4:31:00 PM #113:	i'll totally write. write what you ask, well i dunno. but i'll totally write. even if it's comparing wwe superstars to what fruit their character mostly resembles. -- The King Wang. Listen up Urinal Cake. I already have something that tells me if I'm too drunk when I pee on it: My friends. - Colbert. <cite>Wanglicious posted [p:840150] in All-Purpos... [t:62071855]...</cite> <quote> i'll totally write. write what you ask, well i dunno.but i'll totally write. even if it's comparing wwe superstars to what fruit their character mostly resembles. -- The King Wang.Listen up Urinal Cake. I already have something that tells me if I'm too drunk when I pee on it: My friends. - Colbert. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
edwardsdv 02/26/12 4:47:00 PM #114:	You know I wonder what mrltzer makes of the poornumbers/money at svs. he seemsS to making the same argument as rock. -- http://img.imgcake.com/nio/81edpngej.png edwardsdv and swordz9 are basically the comedy heel tag team of this topic, why would people be taking them seriously? <cite>edwardsdv posted [p:840151] in All-Purpos... [t:62071855]...</cite> <quote> You know I wonder what mrltzer makes of the poornumbers/money at svs.he seemsS to making the same argument as rock. -- http://img.imgcake.com/nio/81edpngej.pngedwardsdv and swordz9 are basically the comedy heel tag team of this topic, why would people be taking them seriously? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rad Link 5 02/26/12 5:06:00 PM #115:	Meltzer blamed it on The Miz, MMA, and booking. But even after all that, he conceded that they were terrible numbers. Meltzer admits right in that clip that he's friends with The Rock, so it's not hard to see where he's coming from. -- Ace Detective in Sir Chris' Police http://i55.tinypic.com/21ozujs.gif <cite>Rad Link 5 posted [p:840152] in All-Purpos... [t:62071855]...</cite> <quote> Meltzer blamed it on The Miz, MMA, and booking. But even after all that, he conceded that they were terrible numbers.Meltzer admits right in that clip that he's friends with The Rock, so it's not hard to see where he's coming from. -- Ace Detective in Sir Chris' Policehttp://i55.tinypic.com/21ozujs.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SmartMuffin 02/26/12 7:32:00 PM #116:	Ugh, that was painful to listen through. Not only is the guy wrong, but he doesn't even communicate clearly. Doesn't he do this for a living? How can he be so bad at it? -- SmartMuffin - Because anything less would be uncivilized - http://img.imgcake.com/smartmuffin/barkleyjpgde.jpg http://dudewheresmyfreedom.com/ <cite>SmartMuffin posted [p:840153] in All-Purpos... [t:62071855]...</cite> <quote> Ugh, that was painful to listen through. Not only is the guy wrong, but he doesn't even communicate clearly. Doesn't he do this for a living? How can he be so bad at it? -- SmartMuffin - Because anything less would be uncivilized - http://img.imgcake.com/smartmuffin/barkleyjpgde.jpghttp://dudewheresmyfreedom.com/ </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
XIII_rocks 02/26/12 8:00:00 PM #117:	Yeah I'm listening now and he's not speaking clearly at all here. -- "I have a place to live because of FFXI, I lost my virginity because of FFXI, and that's why it's my #5 game of all time" - RPGLord95 <cite>XIII_rocks posted [p:840154] in All-Purpos... [t:62071855]...</cite> <quote> Yeah I'm listening now and he's not speaking clearly at all here. -- "I have a place to live because of FFXI, I lost my virginity because of FFXI, and that's why it's my #5 game of all time" - RPGLord95 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 02/26/12 8:02:00 PM #118:	I think it's because he's super frustrated with the roster. You know that point where you get so pissed that you can't properly focus your anger? -- TheRock ~ Slow dramatic zoom-pan. Doesn't phase the hooded man. "You have issues." - MWC. Pot. Kettle. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:840155] in All-Purpos... [t:62071855]...</cite> <quote> I think it's because he's super frustrated with the roster.You know that point where you get so pissed that you can't properly focus your anger? -- TheRock ~ Slow dramatic zoom-pan. Doesn't phase the hooded man."You have issues." - MWC. Pot. Kettle. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
XIII_rocks 02/26/12 8:04:00 PM #119:	eh he only starts sounding angry at the 6 minute mark having stumbled over every word up until that point -- "I have a place to live because of FFXI, I lost my virginity because of FFXI, and that's why it's my #5 game of all time" - RPGLord95 <cite>XIII_rocks posted [p:840156] in All-Purpos... [t:62071855]...</cite> <quote> eh he only starts sounding angry at the 6 minute markhaving stumbled over every word up until that point -- "I have a place to live because of FFXI, I lost my virginity because of FFXI, and that's why it's my #5 game of all time" - RPGLord95 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Viktor Vaughn 02/26/12 8:05:00 PM #120:	it's dave y'get used to it -- bad advice http://www.last.fm/user/snowcampsoldier <cite>Viktor Vaughn posted [p:840157] in All-Purpos... [t:62071855]...</cite> <quote> it's davey'get used to it -- bad advicehttp://www.last.fm/user/snowcampsoldier </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JaKyL25 02/26/12 8:53:00 PM #121:	Well he's right at least that Cena shouldn't have AA'd Rock if the goal was always Cena vs. Rock. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg <cite>JaKyL25 posted [p:840158] in All-Purpos... [t:62071855]...</cite> <quote> Well he's right at least that Cena shouldn't have AA'd Rock if the goal was always Cena vs. Rock. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero.http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voltch 02/26/12 8:56:00 PM #122:	Dave markin' out gif still one of the best wrestling moments. -- Dr voltchball - best in the world. <cite>voltch posted [p:840159] in All-Purpos... [t:62071855]...</cite> <quote> Dave markin' out gif still one of the best wrestling moments. -- Dr voltchball - best in the world. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SmartMuffin 02/26/12 9:03:00 PM #123:	From: JaKyL25 \| #121 Well he's right at least that Cena shouldn't have AA'd Rock if the goal was always Cena vs. Rock. I feel like that's a straw man. I mean, I don't remember anyone here complaining that Cena didn't AA the Rock at WM... -- SmartMuffin - Because anything less would be uncivilized - http://img.imgcake.com/smartmuffin/barkleyjpgde.jpg http://dudewheresmyfreedom.com/ <cite>SmartMuffin posted [p:840160] in All-Purpos... [t:62071855]...</cite> <quote> From: JaKyL25 \| #121Well he's right at least that Cena shouldn't have AA'd Rock if the goal was always Cena vs. Rock.I feel like that's a straw man. I mean, I don't remember anyone here complaining that Cena didn't AA the Rock at WM... -- SmartMuffin - Because anything less would be uncivilized - http://img.imgcake.com/smartmuffin/barkleyjpgde.jpghttp://dudewheresmyfreedom.com/ </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GTM 02/26/12 9:07:00 PM #124:	that jay lethal vs davey richards match was fun except the ending -- Boko United - MenjiTMFan267 Guru Taken Miraculously by SuperNiceDog <cite>GTM posted [p:840161] in All-Purpos... [t:62071855]...</cite> <quote> that jay lethal vs davey richards match was fun except the ending -- Boko United - MenjiTMFan267Guru Taken Miraculously by SuperNiceDog </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JaKyL25 02/26/12 9:07:00 PM #125:	From: Rad Link 5 \| #115 Meltzer blamed it on The Miz, MMA, and booking. The UFC PPV that weekend was Dan Henderson vs. Shogun Rua. Not exactly a world beater from a buyrate standpoint. Now don't get me wrong, it was the fight of the year, and that show kicked all sorts of ass, but it's not exactly something I would run in fear from if I was WWE. It only barely outdrew Survivor Series too, 290K buys vs. 281K. If bottom-tier UFC PPVs (from a marketing standpoint) still pose a significant leeching threat to THE FIRST ROCK MATCH IN 7 YEARS, then that doesn't speak very highly for Rock. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg <cite>JaKyL25 posted [p:840162] in All-Purpos... [t:62071855]...</cite> <quote> From: Rad Link 5 \| #115Meltzer blamed it on The Miz, MMA, and booking.The UFC PPV that weekend was Dan Henderson vs. Shogun Rua. Not exactly a world beater from a buyrate standpoint.Now don't get me wrong, it was the fight of the year, and that show kicked all sorts of ass, but it's not exactly something I would run in fear from if I was WWE.It only barely outdrew Survivor Series too, 290K buys vs. 281K.If bottom-tier UFC PPVs (from a marketing standpoint) still pose a significant leeching threat to THE FIRST ROCK MATCH IN 7 YEARS, then that doesn't speak very highly for Rock. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero.http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JaKyL25 02/26/12 9:09:00 PM #126:	From: SmartMuffin \| #123 I feel like that's a straw man. I mean, I don't remember anyone here complaining that Cena didn't AA the Rock at WM... Well if you're gonna call BS on his claim that people were upset about it, then you may as well call BS on his claim that people are upset at Rock now. I mean it's all hearsay. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg <cite>JaKyL25 posted [p:840163] in All-Purpos... [t:62071855]...</cite> <quote> From: SmartMuffin \| #123I feel like that's a straw man. I mean, I don't remember anyone here complaining that Cena didn't AA the Rock at WM...Well if you're gonna call BS on his claim that people were upset about it, then you may as well call BS on his claim that people are upset at Rock now. I mean it's all hearsay. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero.http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SmartMuffin 02/26/12 9:11:00 PM #127:	Well, my frame of reference is THIS TOPIC. I don't remember anyone here complaining about Cena not delivering an AA at WM. But plenty of people here, including me, are upset at Rock now. I honestly can't recall the last wrestling feud that was presented as face-face (or at least, presented as "both sides have a legitimate argument") where I felt one person was so completely and obviously in the right. At WM, I am going to be cheering for Cena harder than anyone else on the card, INCLUDING Taker... -- SmartMuffin - Because anything less would be uncivilized - http://img.imgcake.com/smartmuffin/barkleyjpgde.jpg http://dudewheresmyfreedom.com/ <cite>SmartMuffin posted [p:840164] in All-Purpos... [t:62071855]...</cite> <quote> Well, my frame of reference is THIS TOPIC.I don't remember anyone here complaining about Cena not delivering an AA at WM. But plenty of people here, including me, are upset at Rock now. I honestly can't recall the last wrestling feud that was presented as face-face (or at least, presented as "both sides have a legitimate argument") where I felt one person was so completely and obviously in the right. At WM, I am going to be cheering for Cena harder than anyone else on the card, INCLUDING Taker... -- SmartMuffin - Because anything less would be uncivilized - http://img.imgcake.com/smartmuffin/barkleyjpgde.jpghttp://dudewheresmyfreedom.com/ </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JaKyL25 02/26/12 9:12:00 PM #128:	From: SmartMuffin \| #127 I don't remember anyone here complaining about Cena not delivering an AA at WM. But plenty of people here, including me, are upset at Rock now. Right, but Meltzer was referring to WRESTLERS being upset that Rock got the upper hand when Cena was gonna be the one carrying the touring. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg <cite>JaKyL25 posted [p:840165] in All-Purpos... [t:62071855]...</cite> <quote> From: SmartMuffin \| #127I don't remember anyone here complaining about Cena not delivering an AA at WM. But plenty of people here, including me, are upset at Rock now.Right, but Meltzer was referring to WRESTLERS being upset that Rock got the upper hand when Cena was gonna be the one carrying the touring. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero.http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JaKyL25 02/26/12 9:15:00 PM #129:	From: SmartMuffin \| #127 I honestly can't recall the last wrestling feud that was presented as face-face (or at least, presented as "both sides have a legitimate argument") where I felt one person was so completely and obviously in the right. Got one: the initial stages of CM Punk vs. Jeff Hardy -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg <cite>JaKyL25 posted [p:840166] in All-Purpos... [t:62071855]...</cite> <quote> From: SmartMuffin \| #127I honestly can't recall the last wrestling feud that was presented as face-face (or at least, presented as "both sides have a legitimate argument") where I felt one person was so completely and obviously in the right.Got one: the initial stages of CM Punk vs. Jeff Hardy -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero.http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SmartMuffin 02/26/12 9:16:00 PM #130:	From: JaKyL25 \| #129 Got one: the initial stages of CM Punk vs. Jeff Hardy You're going to have to refresh my memory here. Punk cashed in MITB, Jeff was annoyed by it. That seems fairly equally legitimate on both sides to me. Punk has the right to cash-in as he sees fit, Jeff has the right to be like "hey, that was kinda lame of you" -- SmartMuffin - Because anything less would be uncivilized - http://img.imgcake.com/smartmuffin/barkleyjpgde.jpg http://dudewheresmyfreedom.com/ <cite>SmartMuffin posted [p:840167] in All-Purpos... [t:62071855]...</cite> <quote> From: JaKyL25 \| #129Got one: the initial stages of CM Punk vs. Jeff HardyYou're going to have to refresh my memory here. Punk cashed in MITB, Jeff was annoyed by it. That seems fairly equally legitimate on both sides to me. Punk has the right to cash-in as he sees fit, Jeff has the right to be like "hey, that was kinda lame of you" -- SmartMuffin - Because anything less would be uncivilized - http://img.imgcake.com/smartmuffin/barkleyjpgde.jpghttp://dudewheresmyfreedom.com/ </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JaKyL25 02/26/12 9:18:00 PM #131:	But I don't think he has that right since if you choose to wrestle for a World Title with an active MitB case out there, and you get toppled by it, that's your own damn negligence. Jeff even CHOSE the ladder match stipulation that ended up weakening him in victory to the point of cash-in. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg <cite>JaKyL25 posted [p:840168] in All-Purpos... [t:62071855]...</cite> <quote> But I don't think he has that right since if you choose to wrestle for a World Title with an active MitB case out there, and you get toppled by it, that's your own damn negligence.Jeff even CHOSE the ladder match stipulation that ended up weakening him in victory to the point of cash-in. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero.http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SmartMuffin 02/26/12 9:20:00 PM #132:	But I don't think he has that right since if you choose to wrestle for a World Title with an active MitB case out there, and you get toppled by it, that's your own damn negligence. Right, but I think you still have the right to be annoyed. Particularly when the person involved was a face at the time. It's pretty much the exact same thing as Show/DB isn't it? -- SmartMuffin - Because anything less would be uncivilized - http://img.imgcake.com/smartmuffin/barkleyjpgde.jpg http://dudewheresmyfreedom.com/ <cite>SmartMuffin posted [p:840169] in All-Purpos... [t:62071855]...</cite> <quote> But I don't think he has that right since if you choose to wrestle for a World Title with an active MitB case out there, and you get toppled by it, that's your own damn negligence.Right, but I think you still have the right to be annoyed. Particularly when the person involved was a face at the time.It's pretty much the exact same thing as Show/DB isn't it? -- SmartMuffin - Because anything less would be uncivilized - http://img.imgcake.com/smartmuffin/barkleyjpgde.jpghttp://dudewheresmyfreedom.com/ </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JaKyL25 02/26/12 9:21:00 PM #133:	Oddly enough, Cena (when Edge cashed in on him) has a legitimate beef though. He won his WWE Championship on SmackDown, and that particular MitB was only good on a Raw World Title. Cena then got drafted to Raw and then months later dethroned by the cash-in. IMO he has a reasonable case of "I did not choose to seek a Championship reign under these pretenses" -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg <cite>JaKyL25 posted [p:840170] in All-Purpos... [t:62071855]...</cite> <quote> Oddly enough, Cena (when Edge cashed in on him) has a legitimate beef though.He won his WWE Championship on SmackDown, and that particular MitB was only good on a Raw World Title. Cena then got drafted to Raw and then months later dethroned by the cash-in.IMO he has a reasonable case of "I did not choose to seek a Championship reign under these pretenses" -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero.http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SmartMuffin 02/26/12 9:24:00 PM #134:	Of course, Edge was fully heel though. So that was never presented as "Both people are in the right here." That was presented as "evil, dastardly, ULTIMATE OPPORTUNIST Edge unfairly takes advantage of a weakened our hero John Cena" -- SmartMuffin - Because anything less would be uncivilized - http://img.imgcake.com/smartmuffin/barkleyjpgde.jpg http://dudewheresmyfreedom.com/ <cite>SmartMuffin posted [p:840171] in All-Purpos... [t:62071855]...</cite> <quote> Of course, Edge was fully heel though. So that was never presented as "Both people are in the right here." That was presented as "evil, dastardly, ULTIMATE OPPORTUNIST Edge unfairly takes advantage of a weakened our hero John Cena" -- SmartMuffin - Because anything less would be uncivilized - http://img.imgcake.com/smartmuffin/barkleyjpgde.jpghttp://dudewheresmyfreedom.com/ </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JaKyL25 02/26/12 9:24:00 PM #135:	From: SmartMuffin \| #132 It's pretty much the exact same thing as Show/DB isn't it? Pretty much except for with Punk/Jeff they at least TRIED to portray both sides as having legitimate gripes. With Show/DB they did that for like one show and then immediately kinda dropped the "DB was only exercising his right" angle in favor of "DB's just a jerk" -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg <cite>JaKyL25 posted [p:840172] in All-Purpos... [t:62071855]...</cite> <quote> From: SmartMuffin \| #132It's pretty much the exact same thing as Show/DB isn't it?Pretty much except for with Punk/Jeff they at least TRIED to portray both sides as having legitimate gripes.With Show/DB they did that for like one show and then immediately kinda dropped the "DB was only exercising his right" angle in favor of "DB's just a jerk" -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero.http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SmartMuffin 02/26/12 9:26:00 PM #136:	Punk's heel turn just took longer. Once he was full on straight-edge they dropped all pretenses of him being legitimate too. -- SmartMuffin - Because anything less would be uncivilized - http://img.imgcake.com/smartmuffin/barkleyjpgde.jpg http://dudewheresmyfreedom.com/ <cite>SmartMuffin posted [p:840173] in All-Purpos... [t:62071855]...</cite> <quote> Punk's heel turn just took longer. Once he was full on straight-edge they dropped all pretenses of him being legitimate too. -- SmartMuffin - Because anything less would be uncivilized - http://img.imgcake.com/smartmuffin/barkleyjpgde.jpghttp://dudewheresmyfreedom.com/ </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JaKyL25 02/26/12 9:28:00 PM #137:	Right, I'm just saying there was a full PPV cycle there where they were both presented as just having different POVs on the subject, which gives it a little more substance. Then Punk chose to make it personal with the drug stuff -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg <cite>JaKyL25 posted [p:840174] in All-Purpos... [t:62071855]...</cite> <quote> Right, I'm just saying there was a full PPV cycle there where they were both presented as just having different POVs on the subject, which gives it a little more substance.Then Punk chose to make it personal with the drug stuff -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero.http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JaKyL25 02/26/12 9:32:00 PM #138:	In fact, now that I think about it, it might have been interesting to take the angle of "Big Show eggs on DB to cash in MitB just to get the case out of the way before he gets his title shot." Not even "Show just wants to fight an easier Champion," just "Show is confident he can beat Henry OR Bryan and just wants to clear out that potential issue" -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg <cite>JaKyL25 posted [p:840175] in All-Purpos... [t:62071855]...</cite> <quote> In fact, now that I think about it, it might have been interesting to take the angle of "Big Show eggs on DB to cash in MitB just to get the case out of the way before he gets his title shot."Not even "Show just wants to fight an easier Champion," just "Show is confident he can beat Henry OR Bryan and just wants to clear out that potential issue" -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero.http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 02/26/12 9:32:00 PM #139:	Honestly, I can't see why anyone would be in Cena's corner based on what he's said. Cena's whole beef is "You're not here every day and I am." Congratulations. You gonna badmouth the Undertaker now? How about HHH? Foley? Jericho? See, Cena just comes off as a whiner to me. At the very least when Punk went after Rock, it was fairly interesting. Cena is literally getting mad over a part-time performer... performing part-time. -- TheRock ~ Slow dramatic zoom-pan. Doesn't phase the hooded man. "You have issues." - MWC. Pot. Kettle. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:840176] in All-Purpos... [t:62071855]...</cite> <quote> Honestly, I can't see why anyone would be in Cena's corner based on what he's said. Cena's whole beef is "You're not here every day and I am." Congratulations. You gonna badmouth the Undertaker now? How about HHH? Foley? Jericho? See, Cena just comes off as a whiner to me. At the very least when Punk went after Rock, it was fairly interesting. Cena is literally getting mad over a part-time performer... performing part-time. -- TheRock ~ Slow dramatic zoom-pan. Doesn't phase the hooded man."You have issues." - MWC. Pot. Kettle. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SmartMuffin 02/26/12 9:35:00 PM #140:	You gonna badmouth the Undertaker now? How about HHH? Foley? Jericho? If they claim they're "back and never leaving" yeah, I sure am. Taker was gone because he's physically unable to perform. HHH is still around, just not wrestling, which MOST fans agree is actually BETTER for the company. Foley and Jericho are honest dudes who don't apologize for having other interests. I don't begrudge Rock going Hollywood. Just have the stones to admit it. Come out and say, "Sorry guys, but I'd rather do these other things that wrestle right now. Maybe someday that'll change." and maybe then I'll respect you. -- SmartMuffin - Because anything less would be uncivilized - http://img.imgcake.com/smartmuffin/barkleyjpgde.jpg http://dudewheresmyfreedom.com/ <cite>SmartMuffin posted [p:840177] in All-Purpos... [t:62071855]...</cite> <quote> You gonna badmouth the Undertaker now? How about HHH? Foley? Jericho? If they claim they're "back and never leaving" yeah, I sure am. Taker was gone because he's physically unable to perform. HHH is still around, just not wrestling, which MOST fans agree is actually BETTER for the company. Foley and Jericho are honest dudes who don't apologize for having other interests.I don't begrudge Rock going Hollywood. Just have the stones to admit it. Come out and say, "Sorry guys, but I'd rather do these other things that wrestle right now. Maybe someday that'll change." and maybe then I'll respect you. -- SmartMuffin - Because anything less would be uncivilized - http://img.imgcake.com/smartmuffin/barkleyjpgde.jpghttp://dudewheresmyfreedom.com/ </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JaKyL25 02/26/12 9:37:00 PM #141:	Part of it goes back to that initial promo, where Rock basically crapped all over the idea of WWE falling to such low depths that John Cena is the face of the company, without offering any alternative. At least Punk said "I am willing to take on this mantle to prove that Cena's reign at the top is an albatross and someone else [namely me] will be a much more exciting Champion." Rock just came on and said "Hey WWE Universe, you know this stuff you watch every week? It SUCKS MONKEY BALLS compared to my era. OK bye." The natural follow up to Rock's diss, if he's not going to topple Cena HIMSELF to restore his company to the glory of old, is to at least back some sort of Rock proxy. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg <cite>JaKyL25 posted [p:840178] in All-Purpos... [t:62071855]...</cite> <quote> Part of it goes back to that initial promo, where Rock basically crapped all over the idea of WWE falling to such low depths that John Cena is the face of the company, without offering any alternative.At least Punk said "I am willing to take on this mantle to prove that Cena's reign at the top is an albatross and someone else [namely me] will be a much more exciting Champion."Rock just came on and said "Hey WWE Universe, you know this stuff you watch every week? It SUCKS MONKEY BALLS compared to my era. OK bye."The natural follow up to Rock's diss, if he's not going to topple Cena HIMSELF to restore his company to the glory of old, is to at least back some sort of Rock proxy. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero.http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SmartMuffin 02/26/12 9:40:00 PM #142:	The natural follow up to Rock's diss, if he's not going to topple Cena HIMSELF to restore his company to the glory of old, is to at least back some sort of Rock proxy. You mean like The Miz? Who instead of backing, he buried so hard that the next logical step for him was jobbing to Alex Riley? -- SmartMuffin - Because anything less would be uncivilized - http://img.imgcake.com/smartmuffin/barkleyjpgde.jpg http://dudewheresmyfreedom.com/ <cite>SmartMuffin posted [p:840179] in All-Purpos... [t:62071855]...</cite> <quote> The natural follow up to Rock's diss, if he's not going to topple Cena HIMSELF to restore his company to the glory of old, is to at least back some sort of Rock proxy.You mean like The Miz? Who instead of backing, he buried so hard that the next logical step for him was jobbing to Alex Riley? -- SmartMuffin - Because anything less would be uncivilized - http://img.imgcake.com/smartmuffin/barkleyjpgde.jpghttp://dudewheresmyfreedom.com/ </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 02/26/12 9:43:00 PM #143:	If they claim they're "back and never leaving" yeah, I sure am. I literally got up and started to pull my hair out. Honest to goodness, this is the most frustrating aspect of this whole thing, and it's why I don't want to be a wrestling fan anymore. Common sense to me says that when The Rock said that, he meant that he was going to be a part of wrestling again. Not for one second did I think it meant he was going to become a regular competitor, and not once did I feel "betrayed" when he left again. To me, this seemed obvious, but apparently to other people they thought something else. And that's what frustrates me: why would anyone think otherwise? Why would someone think that The Rock, WHO WAS IN THE MIDDLE OF FILMING A NEW MOVIE, would suddenly drop everything to wrestle on a regular basis? I don't begrudge Rock going Hollywood. Just have the stones to admit it. Come out and say, "Sorry guys, but I'd rather do these other things that wrestle right now. Maybe someday that'll change." and maybe then I'll respect you. Welp, I'm two for two now. You're going to make me bald, Muffin. You want The Rock, in his first appearance on RAW in years, to come out and say "Yeah, I'm not feeling the wrestling thing." Why is hard to believe that The Rock loves both, but has a greater love and focus for one? Why is it that The Rock choosing Hollywood is such a huge slight and that it's impossible for The Rock to love the wrestling business as well. God dammit, I said I didn't want to get into it again because I get serious chest pains when I see stuff like this. -- TheRock ~ Slow dramatic zoom-pan. Doesn't phase the hooded man. "You have issues." - MWC. Pot. Kettle. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:840180] in All-Purpos... [t:62071855]...</cite> <quote> If they claim they're "back and never leaving" yeah, I sure am.I literally got up and started to pull my hair out. Honest to goodness, this is the most frustrating aspect of this whole thing, and it's why I don't want to be a wrestling fan anymore.Common sense to me says that when The Rock said that, he meant that he was going to be a part of wrestling again. Not for one second did I think it meant he was going to become a regular competitor, and not once did I feel "betrayed" when he left again. To me, this seemed obvious, but apparently to other people they thought something else. And that's what frustrates me: why would anyone think otherwise? Why would someone think that The Rock, WHO WAS IN THE MIDDLE OF FILMING A NEW MOVIE, would suddenly drop everything to wrestle on a regular basis?I don't begrudge Rock going Hollywood. Just have the stones to admit it. Come out and say, "Sorry guys, but I'd rather do these other things that wrestle right now. Maybe someday that'll change." and maybe then I'll respect you.Welp, I'm two for two now. You're going to make me bald, Muffin. You want The Rock, in his first appearance on RAW in years, to come out and say "Yeah, I'm not feeling the wrestling thing." Why is hard to believe that The Rock loves both, but has a greater love and focus for one? Why is it that The Rock choosing Hollywood is such a huge slight and that it's impossible for The Rock to love the wrestling business as well.God dammit, I said I didn't want to get into it again because I get serious chest pains when I see stuff like this. -- TheRock ~ Slow dramatic zoom-pan. Doesn't phase the hooded man."You have issues." - MWC. Pot. Kettle. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SmartMuffin 02/26/12 9:43:00 PM #144:	Foley and Jericho are like attractive women who, when you approach them, just straight up say "Sorry, I'm not interested." Rock is the unbelievably attractive woman who pretends to be interested in you, allows you take her out to really expensive dinners, sends you all the signals that you're about to hit it, then casually drops a "well I better get home before my boyfriend gets home from work" at the end of the third date. -- SmartMuffin - Because anything less would be uncivilized - http://img.imgcake.com/smartmuffin/barkleyjpgde.jpg http://dudewheresmyfreedom.com/ <cite>SmartMuffin posted [p:840181] in All-Purpos... [t:62071855]...</cite> <quote> Foley and Jericho are like attractive women who, when you approach them, just straight up say "Sorry, I'm not interested."Rock is the unbelievably attractive woman who pretends to be interested in you, allows you take her out to really expensive dinners, sends you all the signals that you're about to hit it, then casually drops a "well I better get home before my boyfriend gets home from work" at the end of the third date. -- SmartMuffin - Because anything less would be uncivilized - http://img.imgcake.com/smartmuffin/barkleyjpgde.jpghttp://dudewheresmyfreedom.com/ </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SmartMuffin 02/26/12 9:45:00 PM #145:	Why is hard to believe that The Rock loves both, but has a greater love and focus for one? Why is it that The Rock choosing Hollywood is such a huge slight and that it's impossible for The Rock to love the wrestling business as well. It's not impossible, but when he devotes 95% of his year to Hollywood, and 5% of his year to Wrestling, it's probably JUST A BIT of a stretch to imply that his love for wrestling is even CLOSE to his love for Hollywood. -- SmartMuffin - Because anything less would be uncivilized - http://img.imgcake.com/smartmuffin/barkleyjpgde.jpg http://dudewheresmyfreedom.com/ <cite>SmartMuffin posted [p:840182] in All-Purpos... [t:62071855]...</cite> <quote> Why is hard to believe that The Rock loves both, but has a greater love and focus for one? Why is it that The Rock choosing Hollywood is such a huge slight and that it's impossible for The Rock to love the wrestling business as well.It's not impossible, but when he devotes 95% of his year to Hollywood, and 5% of his year to Wrestling, it's probably JUST A BIT of a stretch to imply that his love for wrestling is even CLOSE to his love for Hollywood. -- SmartMuffin - Because anything less would be uncivilized - http://img.imgcake.com/smartmuffin/barkleyjpgde.jpghttp://dudewheresmyfreedom.com/ </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JaKyL25 02/26/12 9:47:00 PM #146:	And I think deep down that's why the "never leaving again" remark, misconstrued or not, is such a sticking point. That magical night where Rock returned and cut that amazing promo, after laying the smacketh down about how much things suck now, it came across like he was saying that now HE'S back to set things right. And then he never did. So basically he just called us all fools for watching a (supposedly) inferior product. And yeah, I wish he would still come back and wrestle more often, but even if he can't, like I said earlier, I would even settle for some more frequent via satellite promos, just to say something or comment about ways the product can be better if he feels that strongly about it. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg <cite>JaKyL25 posted [p:840183] in All-Purpos... [t:62071855]...</cite> <quote> And I think deep down that's why the "never leaving again" remark, misconstrued or not, is such a sticking point.That magical night where Rock returned and cut that amazing promo, after laying the smacketh down about how much things suck now, it came across like he was saying that now HE'S back to set things right. And then he never did. So basically he just called us all fools for watching a (supposedly) inferior product.And yeah, I wish he would still come back and wrestle more often, but even if he can't, like I said earlier, I would even settle for some more frequent via satellite promos, just to say something or comment about ways the product can be better if he feels that strongly about it. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero.http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 02/26/12 9:48:00 PM #147:	*JaKyL25 posted...* Part of it goes back to that initial promo, where Rock basically crapped all over the idea of WWE falling to such low depths that John Cena is the face of the company, without offering any alternative. At least Punk said "I am willing to take on this mantle to prove that Cena's reign at the top is an albatross and someone else [namely me] will be a much more exciting Champion." Rock just came on and said "Hey WWE Universe, you know this stuff you watch every week? It SUCKS MONKEY BALLS compared to my era. OK bye." The natural follow up to Rock's diss, if he's not going to topple Cena HIMSELF to restore his company to the glory of old, is to at least back some sort of Rock proxy. Jericho is doing the exact same thing. The first real promo he did when he came back was s**ing all over the current roster and inserting himself into the ME of Wrestlemania, JUST like The Rock is doing. Where's all the Jericho rage? -- TheRock ~ Slow dramatic zoom-pan. Doesn't phase the hooded man.* "You have issues." - MWC. Pot. Kettle. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:840184] in All-Purpos... [t:62071855]...</cite> <quote> JaKyL25 posted...Part of it goes back to that initial promo, where Rock basically crapped all over the idea of WWE falling to such low depths that John Cena is the face of the company, without offering any alternative.At least Punk said "I am willing to take on this mantle to prove that Cena's reign at the top is an albatross and someone else [namely me] will be a much more exciting Champion."Rock just came on and said "Hey WWE Universe, you know this stuff you watch every week? It SUCKS MONKEY BALLS compared to my era. OK bye."The natural follow up to Rock's diss, if he's not going to topple Cena HIMSELF to restore his company to the glory of old, is to at least back some sort of Rock proxy.Jericho is doing the exact same thing. The first real promo he did when he came back was s***ing all over the current roster and inserting himself into the ME of Wrestlemania, JUST like The Rock is doing.Where's all the Jericho rage? -- TheRock ~ Slow dramatic zoom-pan. Doesn't phase the hooded man."You have issues." - MWC. Pot. Kettle. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JaKyL25 02/26/12 9:50:00 PM #148:	From: TheRock1525 \| #147 Jericho is doing the exact same thing. The first real promo he did when he came back was s*ing all over the current roster and inserting himself into the ME of Wrestlemania, JUST like The Rock is doing. Where's all the Jericho rage? I dunno if you missed it but a lot of people are pissed off that this whole Jericho return angle is really kinda crappy. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg <cite>JaKyL25 posted [p:840185] in All-Purpos... [t:62071855]...</cite> <quote> From: TheRock1525 \| #147Jericho is doing the exact same thing. The first real promo he did when he came back was s*ing all over the current roster and inserting himself into the ME of Wrestlemania, JUST like The Rock is doing.Where's all the Jericho rage?I dunno if you missed it but a lot of people are pissed off that this whole Jericho return angle is really kinda crappy. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero.http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JaKyL25 02/26/12 9:51:00 PM #149:	(And also Jericho is meant to be in the wrong and full of himself and a major ass) -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg <cite>JaKyL25 posted [p:840186] in All-Purpos... [t:62071855]...</cite> <quote> (And also Jericho is meant to be in the wrong and full of himself and a major ass) -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero.http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 02/26/12 9:51:00 PM #150:	*JaKyL25 posted...* From: TheRock1525 \| #147 Jericho is doing the exact same thing. The first real promo he did when he came back was s**ing all over the current roster and inserting himself into the ME of Wrestlemania, JUST like The Rock is doing. Where's all the Jericho rage? I dunno if you missed it but a lot of people are pissed off that this whole Jericho return angle is really kinda crappy. There's a difference between hating an angle and hating the wrestler. I don't think anyone hates Jericho nearly as much as they hate The Rock right now. -- TheRock ~ Slow dramatic zoom-pan. Doesn't phase the hooded man.* "You have issues." - MWC. Pot. Kettle. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:840187] in All-Purpos... [t:62071855]...</cite> <quote> JaKyL25 posted...From: TheRock1525 \| #147Jericho is doing the exact same thing. The first real promo he did when he came back was s***ing all over the current roster and inserting himself into the ME of Wrestlemania, JUST like The Rock is doing.Where's all the Jericho rage?I dunno if you missed it but a lot of people are pissed off that this whole Jericho return angle is really kinda crappy.There's a difference between hating an angle and hating the wrestler. I don't think anyone hates Jericho nearly as much as they hate The Rock right now. -- TheRock ~ Slow dramatic zoom-pan. Doesn't phase the hooded man."You have issues." - MWC. Pot. Kettle. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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