So I really want to get good at a fighter since I have zero interest in SFxT and I got pretty uninterested in Soul Calibur V rather fast. Only problem is that I suck so hard at Marvel, but I want to try and get good.
So I was wondering if any of the Board 8 Fighting Game Gurus have advice for how to get good at all. I'm not sure who I want to have on my team, but I have a few ideas on who I want to try out. So... yeah. Where should I start exactly on improving?
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From: PrivateBiscuit1 | #007 Well, here's a list of characters I want to try and make a team out of in no order:
Captain America Deadpool Iron Man Shuma-Gorath Spider-Man Super-Skrull Taskmaster Chris Spencer Ryu Trish Doctor Strange Hawkeye Nova Frank West
It's kind of a big list, but uh... the only person who I really want to use most of all is Super-Skrull.
Then learn Skrull. I don't know a lot about team-building but learn the character you want to most and build around that. Narrow that list down. Check out some forums/vids. If you're looking for Skrull players check out DJ Huoshen or Alukard and see how high-level Skrull plays so you get a better idea. Skrull isn't ass so that helps too.
Cap/Skrull/Task seems like it would be an okay team. Cap is pretty easy to combo with and hits HARD, and using Task's assist and backflip should help you get in. If Cap and Skrull both die, you get Taskmaster at anchor, who does stupid damage in XF3 and has great projectiles. I don't know anything about Skrull, and I always have problems fighting the good ones I come across online.
Captain America Deadpool Iron Man Shuma-Gorath Spider-Man Super-Skrull Taskmaster Chris Spencer Ryu Trish Doctor Strange Hawkeye Nova Frank West
If you want skrull, he's p.good buddies with Task/Hawkeye. He can DHC glitch into Frank from INFERNOOOOO so he gets fed, and Frank goes well with anyone that feeds him.
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From: colliding | #015 Cap/Skrull/Task seems like it would be an okay team. Cap is pretty easy to combo with and hits HARD, and using Task's assist and backflip should help you get in. If Cap and Skrull both die, you get Taskmaster at anchor, who does stupid damage in XF3 and has great projectiles. I don't know anything about Skrull, and I always have problems fighting the good ones I come across online.
This is a bad team. Beams stuff you to hell and back, and your air control is limited.
Bottom line: your team needs to synergize. Skrull is a beastly anchor and has excellent DHCs, but loves some meter and has a really tough time killing people who have assists for keepaway. You want a strong point character, where strong point means you can kill anybody that isn't Thor or Haggar for one bar (two bars tops), a reliable Second who has a strong assist and is good at using meter and building it, and your Anchor who can win bad situations and finish teams off with X-Factor. Out of that list you posted, Spencer is a really strong point and has a rather decent assist for comboing, and Doctor Strange, Hawkeye, Chris, and to a lesser extent Iron Man provide some strong lockdown assists. I recommend using one of those as your Second, though you will have to practice DHCs into Skrull IIRC.
And now, it's time to get down to the basics. For now, forget teams. What you want to learn is the basics of fighting games. Perhaps you might not like their commentary, but James Chen and UltraDavid have done some pretty in-depth videos to explain things to newbies to the scene. You can find them here: http://www.twitch.tv/ultrachentv/videos
I recommend checking, at *least* the first episode. It's long, but worthwhile and if you know what the game is about you'll do way better than if you just try practicing BnBs without know how and why you want to use them.
From: PrivateBiscuit1 | #022 I really wanted to listen to those, Kanz, but the audio on those videos were just so s*** that I couldn't sit through it.
Anyway, I'll take more advice. I'll probably start doing stuff with Skrull later tonight and see what I can make happen.
Understandable. You've listened to David Sirlin's vids on fighting game fundamentals, right? If not, they have much better audio and convey the same thing, so they're worth a shot. Besides that, I recommend checking the Shoryuken forums for Skrull just in case, to see if they have any interesting tech for you. Things you should do:
-Practice Kara-Canceling your Heavy attack into grab. This gives you a super long range grab that is really useful for tripping people up, so be sure to give it a look. Lots of fun stuff can be done with this. -Get the timing for Orbital Grudge into Inferno down pat, and learn how to Orbital Grudge off the right moves. -Learn how to charge and use the flaming cartwheel punch properly. It's really finicky and even experts miss it sometimes, so it's good to nail it down. -Practice the basics and test out the ranges of all your moves. And I mean it, *all of them*. Then try chaining them on the move, from different places and using different combos. -Practice wave and Plink dashing. You gotta move fast across the screen to capitalize on stuff. I wouldn't step into real matches without the ability to reliably dash, if you really want to get good.
I think that's all the basics off the top of my head. There's more stuff, probably, but I don't play Skrull so that's all I can think of.
From: PrivateBiscuit1 | #024 Well, I practiced some combos. I guess my problem is getting in though. It's always been my problem with this game. Anyone have advice for that?
First thing is that last bullet point above. If you can't cover tons of distance with dashes forget about it. Beyond that, you need somebody who can buy you time to close in safely. What assists are you using ATM?