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SHINE GET 64
02/21/12 8:52:00 PM
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http://kotaku.com/5887161/get-ready-for-the-next-metal-gear-solid
http://www.konami.jp/kojima_pro/gdc2012/index.html

my body is STILL READY (no I didn't accidentally close the last one)

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SHINE GET 64
02/21/12 9:32:00 PM
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just noticed the FOX ENGINE logo

oh manz

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Anagram
02/21/12 9:42:00 PM
#3:


Oh man so much hype... Wait, more Big Boss? I love the guy too, but hasn't he already had three games? That's one less than Solid Snake himself, and that counts the NES games.

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ZFS
02/21/12 9:43:00 PM
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There are no words

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LeonhartFour
02/21/12 9:44:00 PM
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From: Anagram | #003
Wait, more Big Boss?


are you literally saying this like it's not the best possible news

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dragon22391
02/21/12 9:45:00 PM
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ZFS posted...
There are no words

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ShadowHalo17
02/21/12 9:46:00 PM
#7:


More Big Boss is and always will be better.

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ZFS
02/21/12 9:46:00 PM
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Big Boss I am hyped

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SHINE GET 64
02/21/12 9:48:00 PM
#9:


when it all comes down to it

Metal Gear is about Big Boss and his legacy.

It should be no surprise that we'd get more Big Boss!

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LeonhartFour
02/21/12 9:53:00 PM
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What does the patch on his shoulder say?

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ZFS
02/21/12 9:57:00 PM
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Sneaking, maybe? Something "-king dogs," at least.

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futuresuperstar
02/21/12 9:58:00 PM
#12:


As long as it's like MGS1-4 and not like Peace Walker, I'm good.

Peace Walker was a fun game, but it was nowhere near as good as the main four. And I do love Big Boss, but I can't say that I enjoy the storylines from the pre-2000 games nearly as much as Shadow Moses and beyond.

Though The Boss is arguably the best character in the series, or at least top 5.

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RevolverSaro
02/21/12 9:58:00 PM
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Dogs

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SHINE GET 64
02/21/12 10:03:00 PM
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remember there was a dog in the FOX Engine footage

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Psycho_Kenshin
02/21/12 10:09:00 PM
#15:


SHINE GET 64 posted...
when it all comes down to it

Metal Gear is about Big Boss and his legacy.

It should be no surprise that we'd get more Big Boss!


To be fair, it was more so about Solid Snake from 1987 through 1998 (or 2001), and back again in 2008. At most they're co-stars. Ha, but anyyyways I feel Snake vs Big Boss is my pet peeve and seems to be in all threads since MGS3, as much as I love MGS3.


But on what matters, hell yeah I'm pumped for more Metal Gear.

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XIII_rocks
02/21/12 10:09:00 PM
#16:


Unimaginable
levels
of hype

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foolm0ron
02/21/12 10:14:00 PM
#17:


Dammit another filler Metal Gear instead of an actually anticipated game like ZoE3.

Well, this one is excusable at least because it will showcase the FOX engine.

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Xiahou Shake
02/21/12 10:15:00 PM
#18:


At this point I'd rather have a game about Liquid. >_>
I mean, Big Boss is one of the best characters in anything ever, but now he's going to have as many games as Snake, which just seems kinda weird. The more they try to cram in, the greater the risk of the awesomeness becoming dilluted. They pulled it off excellently in Peace Walker, though, so I'll eagerly await our first glimpse at this.

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foolm0ron
02/21/12 10:15:00 PM
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From: SHINE GET 64 | #014
remember there was a dog in the FOX Engine footage


SNAKE IS NOW A SKINNY BLACK KID

GOTY

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foolm0ron
02/21/12 10:19:00 PM
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Damn all they are hiring for are senior positions that I would not be qualified for

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Psycho_Kenshin
02/21/12 10:21:00 PM
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Xiahou Shake posted...
At this point I'd rather have a game about Liquid. >_>
I mean, Big Boss is one of the best characters in anything ever, but now he's going to have as many games as Snake, which just seems kinda weird. The more they try to cram in, the greater the risk of the awesomeness becoming dilluted. They pulled it off excellently in Peace Walker, though, so I'll eagerly await our first glimpse at this.


For me in the case of Peace Walker it is a bit diluted, with bits of brilliance shining here and there like the epilogue speech.

For me the perfect next MGS game would be set further in the future and star new characters, original ideas, new stuff, new era, etc.

But at the end of the day any MGS game by Kojima Productions is gonna be worth getting excited for.

Now, I love the speculation train and it's great it's going, but I'll say: can we be 100% sure already that the next game will star Big Boss? Having him in the ads, especially the I Want You poster, could be because he's one of the mascots of the series.

I'm not sure what we should make of the screen with the guy with the ponytail, but I'm not sure that guy is Big Boss. (Granted he does seem to have either a pony tail or just mullet scruff in the Shinkawa art)

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Xiahou Shake
02/21/12 10:23:00 PM
#22:


If this game isabout Big Boss, is there really a place that the story would fit well?
MGS3 covers his main story, and his coming to be the "hero" that he is.
Peace Walker covers the rise of Outer Heaven.
MG1 covers the fall of Outer Heaven, and MG2 covers his death, as it were.

The only place that they could really plug something in without just doing a MG1/2 remake (which would be the best thing ever, of all time, by the way) is just Outer Heaven carrying out some operations. Not to say a good story couldn't be told with that, but it seems kinda pointless. >_>

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ZFS
02/21/12 10:30:00 PM
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You can make a good story with Big Boss post-PW but pre-MG1. Is it necessary? Not really -- but this is true of any game that they could make with the current timeline. The thing about Big Boss is that he has a rich history to work with. He's been all over the world on countless missions. It doesn't have to be revelatory to the overall series for it to be an interesting story. That's the important thing.

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SHINE GET 64
02/21/12 10:32:00 PM
#24:


I want to see him with a young Sniper Wolf

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Psycho_Kenshin
02/21/12 10:33:00 PM
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ZFS posted...
You can make a good story with Big Boss post-PW but pre-MG1. Is it necessary? Not really -- but this is true of any game that they could make with the current timeline.

The current timeline still has, say, the future. The fuuuuuture.

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LeonhartFour
02/21/12 10:33:00 PM
#26:


From: Psycho_Kenshin | #025
The current timeline still has, say, the future. The fuuuuuture.


Then play REVENGEANCE

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Psycho_Kenshin
02/21/12 10:35:00 PM
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LeonhartFour posted...
Then play REVENGEANCE

Sure I'm aware that game is set in the future, but you know that's not what I'm looking for (though I'll play it), we're talking MGS and Kojima Productions here.

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Liquid Wiind
02/21/12 10:35:00 PM
#28:


obviously it's time for big boss to time travel thus creating more timelines and completely breaking the series' continuity

and then he goes to space...
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Psycho_Kenshin
02/21/12 10:36:00 PM
#29:


Only if he fights robot Solid Snake as the final boss.

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ZFS
02/21/12 10:36:00 PM
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As far as whether or not it's Big Boss, I would say so. If it was just the GDC ad, that would be one thing, but the other piece of art matches up with the screenshot they released a few months ago. Just makes sense, I think, especially with how much attention he's gotten from KP the past few years.

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LeonhartFour
02/21/12 10:42:00 PM
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Honestly not all that interested in the series timeline continuing beyond the end of MGS4. Good place to finish it.

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foolm0ron
02/21/12 10:43:00 PM
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From: Liquid Wiind | #028
and then he goes to space...


I think you're onto something here

It could just be the next step between the MGS/ZoE crossover game

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Psycho_Kenshin
02/21/12 10:43:00 PM
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Since it's not finished though, it's more ripe for good ideas than fitting things somewhere between past events.

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LeonhartFour
02/21/12 10:44:00 PM
#34:


No Solid Snake

No Big Boss

No thanks

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Psycho_Kenshin
02/21/12 10:45:00 PM
#35:


The new guy'll be called Big Snake, or Snake Boss. Or, better yet, will be a hard-as-nails hot chick with blue hair.

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LeonhartFour
02/21/12 10:45:00 PM
#36:


Even better reason to stay out of the future.

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Psycho_Kenshin
02/21/12 10:46:00 PM
#37:


You do what you want, I'm going BACK to the future.

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TheKoolAidShoto
02/21/12 10:49:00 PM
#38:


MGS Rising to be the BEST MG game

also, nice artwork

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SHINE GET 64
02/21/12 10:50:00 PM
#39:


Psycho_Kenshin posted...
The new guy'll be called Big Snake, or Snake Boss. Or, better yet, will be a hard-as-nails hot chick with blue hair.

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Liquid Wiind
02/21/12 10:50:00 PM
#40:


The new guy'll be called Big Snake, or Snake Boss. Or, better yet, will be a hard-as-nails hot chick with blue hair.

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Anagram
02/21/12 10:51:00 PM
#41:


LeonhartFour posted...
From: Anagram | #003
Wait, more Big Boss?
are you literally saying this like it's not the best possible news


I wouldn't mind a WWII-era The Boss/Cobras game, or something focusing on Liquid Snake and FOXHOUND. I mean... don't we already know all of Big Boss' story at this point? Aren't all of the pieces already in place? I like Big Boss and all, I really do, but... I don't know, it seems like his story was already told.

Not to imply that I wouldn't buy another MGS game regardless of the central character or anything. The only thing that would stop me is if it's on the Vita.

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Liquid Wiind
02/21/12 11:00:00 PM
#42:


I'm YOU. I'm your shadow!

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LeonhartFour
02/21/12 11:00:00 PM
#43:


Just read Last Days of FOXHOUND, man.

It's pretty thorough.

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Xiahou Shake
02/21/12 11:02:00 PM
#44:


From: Liquid Wiind | #042
I'm YOU. I'm your shadow!

do you really want an entire game about that ^ guy?


YES.

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Anagram
02/21/12 11:10:00 PM
#45:


LeonhartFour posted...
Just read Last Days of FOXHOUND, man.

It's pretty thorough.


I've read it. You and I both know that it can't be canon because of various revelations in MGS4.


And we wouldn't need it to be only about Liquid. You could play as all of FOXHOUND, maybe.

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02/22/12 8:43:00 AM
#46:


More people should know about this. The real question is, of course, what time period it covers.

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DeathChicken
02/22/12 8:46:00 AM
#47:


There's still a gap to be covered between the end of Peace Walker and the start of the original Metal Gear. Like how all of those nice new friends Big Boss made in Peace Walker weren't with him anymore, and how he ended up both the head of Foxhound *and* the leader of a third world country

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02/22/12 8:49:00 AM
#48:


DeathChicken posted...
There's still a gap to be covered between the end of Peace Walker and the start of the original Metal Gear. Like how all of those nice new friends Big Boss made in Peace Walker weren't with him anymore, and how he ended up both the head of Foxhound *and* the leader of a third world country

I suppose that, if you want to do another Big Boss game, that's the best place. Not to sound like a broken record here, because after MGR's announcement everyone said this, but I'd kind of rather see a Raiden game set between MGS2 and MGS4.

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HeroDelTiempo17
02/22/12 8:59:00 AM
#49:


From: DeathChicken | #047
There's still a gap to be covered between the end of Peace Walker and the start of the original Metal Gear. Like how all of those nice new friends Big Boss made in Peace Walker weren't with him anymore, and how he ended up both the head of Foxhound *and* the leader of a third world country


Was it ever explained how Big Boss even got back into FOX when it was lead by Major Zero, who I'm pretty sure was not on the friendliest of terms with Big Boss at the end of Peace Walker?

Or maybe it was and I've forgotten. It has been a while.

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SnoicFactor
02/22/12 9:00:00 AM
#50:


i liked mgs3, but they need to move forward.. Too much big boss. I want to know what's up with Snake, and get something new.

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