Although laugh tracks don't bother me nearly as much as they seem to do other people.
In most shows that use them, it throws off the timing really egregiously. The reason Seinfeld was so good is that it almost never paused for laughs. Shows that do pause really slow down the proceedings. Imagine a show like Community or Parks & Rec if they ever paused for the audience to laugh.
Of course, when it comes to pacing, you have to recognize the difference between a laugh track and a live audience.
A lot of shows people blame for having laugh tracks are really recorded in front of a live audience. Others are filmed, then shown to a live audience to record their reactions. Obviously the differences between those two styles and laugh tracks will affect what the mood and timing of the show will be.
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From: Grand Kirby | #055 Of course, when it comes to pacing, you have to recognize the difference between a laugh track and a live audience.
A lot of shows people blame for having laugh tracks are really recorded in front of a live audience. Others are filmed, then shown to a live audience to record their reactions. Obviously the differences between those two styles and laugh tracks will affect what the mood and timing of the show will be.
Regardless of how they are recorded, almost all of them are "sweetened" in post. And the writers and actors still work to the audience. It's disruptive and unnatural, as far as I'm concerned.
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From: yoshifan823 | #020 Also, strange as it sounds, I've always considered Scrubs an anomaly. It's only direct lineage is Cougar Town. It's still great, but I don't really think of it as a defining moment.
Honestly, if I had to pick the most influential sitcoms of the past, say, 15 years, it would definitely be The Office, Sex and the City, Arrested Development and Always Sunny. Each one definitely has/had a definite impact on what we watch now, for better or worse.
Yeah, except the fact that Scrubs has LITERALLY influenced every major show since its inception except 24, and ONLY because 24 came out the same year (and it would not work in 24). You know how EVERY major television show of the last decade has used musical montages (usually at the end of the episode), way more than they should have conceivably. Yeah, every instant of that is Scrubs.
From: CherryCokes | #028 I can and I will. It is like the Goldeneye of sitcoms, as far as I'm concerned. It was great then, but it does not hold up well, especially compared to The Honeymooners and The Dick Van Dyke Show
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From: EmDubyaSee | #058 Yeah, except the fact that Scrubs has LITERALLY influenced every major show since its inception except 24, and ONLY because 24 came out the same year (and it would not work in 24). You know how EVERY major television show of the last decade has used musical montages (usually at the end of the episode), way more than they should have conceivably. Yeah, every instant of that is Scrubs.
I don't think nearly as many shows do this as much as you think. Lost did it throughout its first season and some after that. A lot of single-camera sitcoms do it occasionally, but most of them not that often.
I mean yeah, it's an influence, but every major show? Hardly. I think you may be confusing putting background music to the ending with an actual musical montage. Because the former has been happening LOOOOOONG before Scrubs.
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From: kevwaffles | #061 I don't think nearly as many shows do this as much as you think. Lost did it throughout its first season and some after that. A lot of single-camera sitcoms do it occasionally, but most of them not that often.
I mean yeah, it's an influence, but every major show? Hardly. I think you may be confusing putting background music to the ending with an actual musical montage. Because the former has been happening LOOOOOONG before Scrubs.
Yeah, before Scrubs if a show had a 10 year run and 200 episodes, they might have done that 5 times (in fact Friends is a perfect example. I would REALLY like to know how many times they did it before season 8(when Scrubs came around). I can think of the the one before Ross and Rachel break up, the one where they hook up for the first time in the Museum, the one with the List, and some random season 5 episode. So in about 190 episodes, they did it 4 times.
Now then, Lost, Greys Anatomy, Desperate Housewifes, House, and on, and on, and ON.
Shows that don't use musical montages as much as Scrubs: 30 Rock Community The Office Parks and Rec Big Bang Theory 2 Broke Girls Archer Always Sunny Louie The League Wilfred New Girl Raising Hope
I thought of continuing the list, but I figure I could shorten it:
Every comedy that isn't Cougar Town and maybe How I Met Your Mother.
From: yoshifan823 | #064 Shows that don't use musical montages as much as Scrubs: 30 Rock Community The Office Parks and Rec Big Bang Theory 2 Broke Girls Archer Always Sunny Louie The League Wilfred New Girl Raising Hope
I thought of continuing the list, but I figure I could shorten it:
Every comedy that isn't Cougar Town and maybe How I Met Your Mother.
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Scrubs influenced dramas more than comedies
I never said it didn't. But since virtually every major show is a drama, and because Scrubs was pretty much a Dramedy, that makes sense.
From: CherryCokes | #056 Regardless of how they are recorded, almost all of them are "sweetened" in post. And the writers and actors still work to the audience. It's disruptive and unnatural, as far as I'm concerned.
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