Board 8 > Stunning realization: Cris Carter is not in the Pro Football Hall of Fame

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CherryCokes
02/06/12 8:55:00 PM
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4th all time in receiving TDs (130)
4th all time in receptions (1101)
8th all time in receiving yards (13899)
8th all time in career TDs (131)

Ahead of him in those categories

Rice, Owens, Moss
Rice Gonzalez, Harrison
Rice, Owens, Bruce, Brown, Moss, Harrison, Lofton
Rice, Smith, Tomlinson, Owen, Moss, Allen, Faulk

How do those numbers and that company not get him in? (And Brown, for that matter)

Edit: And he spent 4 seasons with Randy Moss as a teammate
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Whiskey_Nick
02/06/12 8:56:00 PM
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Joke Hall of Fame

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LeonhartFour
02/06/12 8:58:00 PM
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Yeah, I can't figure out why he's not in the Hall of Fame yet, and why he's already missed out multiple times.

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Gr8CyberMonkey
02/06/12 9:05:00 PM
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There are two bones of contention coming out of the meeting -- at least that I've heard from readers, tweeters and other writers: the Bill Parcells snub and the logjam at wide receiver. I can't divulge conversations from the room; that's against Hall policy. It's also against Hall policy to divulge your vote. Now, I believe in transparency, but I'll follow the Hall's directives as long as I'm an active member of the committee. But as a voter, I always have felt comfortable saying I've supported one candidate or the other.

Re the wideouts: It's become obvious there's a logjam between the three eligible receivers -- Andre Reed, Cris Carter and Tim Brown. I have supported Carter consistently; I believe he's the best boundary receiver of all time. (That was a phrase coined by former Niner Randy Cross that I stole because it's so appropriate. Carter was superb at catching the ball at the very edge of the sideline before his feet hit the white of the sideline.) Reed has some staunch supporters. Carter has his. Brown too. But I think it's coming down to Carter and Reed.

In the same number of games with mostly lesser quarterbacks than Reed had, Carter caught 150 more passes for 43 more touchdowns. That carries a lot of weight with me. But I understand the conflict here. Reed was a very good receiver in his own right. I just feel Carter's better from a historical perspective. Obviously, if 80 percent of voters felt the way I feel, Carter would be in. I was asked in the last 36 hours what's going to change at receiver. I don't know. I'm not sure anything will change.


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vpHigherlove
02/06/12 9:05:00 PM
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Tim brown also should be in. It's a joke

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KCF0107
02/06/12 9:06:00 PM
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I know that the WRs as a whole have had difficulty getting into the Hall but yeah, Carter should have gone in on the first or second ballot at the very latest

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SmartMuffin
02/06/12 9:06:00 PM
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CC is an all-time great. HOF is a joke.

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CherryCokes
02/06/12 9:10:00 PM
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Given that Rice had all-time great QBs throwing to him, Carter's resume is probably the most impressive of any receiver, in my opinion.

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LeonhartFour
02/06/12 9:13:00 PM
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Regardless of the quality of QBs throwing to you, Rice's numbers are just so out of your mind ridiculous that nobody will ever catch him. Ever. You can chalk it up to inflation or whatever, but nobody's anywhere close to him in ANYTHING.

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KCF0107
02/06/12 9:22:00 PM
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I just now realized that the year that Rice had 22 TD receptions was when he missed 4 games.

At the ages of 39 and 40, Rice put up back-to-back 80+ reception, 1100+ yd, 7+ TD seasons. That is insane

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CherryCokes
02/06/12 9:35:00 PM
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From: LeonhartFour | #009
Regardless of the quality of QBs throwing to you, Rice's numbers are just so out of your mind ridiculous that nobody will ever catch him. Ever. You can chalk it up to inflation or whatever, but nobody's anywhere close to him in ANYTHING.


I feel like CBs were devalued for much of his career. Maybe I'm mistaken. But yes, his numbers are so gaudy.

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WarThaNemesis2
02/06/12 9:42:00 PM
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The set of WRs who should be in is so ridiculous that I wish the guys voting just got together and agreed 'ok yeah, we'll vote X in this year, Y the next, and then Z.'

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Paratroopa1
02/06/12 10:18:00 PM
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KCF0107 posted...
I just now realized that the year that Rice had 22 TD receptions was when he missed 4 games.

At the ages of 39 and 40, Rice put up back-to-back 80+ reception, 1100+ yd, 7+ TD seasons. That is insane


My favorite fun fact:

Jerry Rice is only one of two players in NFL history to have a reception at the age of 40 or older.

The other is Brett Favre.
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