Board 8 > okay, after playing SCV for five hours in a row, these are my thoughts

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BIGPUN9999
02/01/12 1:06:00 AM
#1:


yea, SCIV was the better "game"

that is, it had more s*** to it.

and THAT game was pretty bare bones to begin with.

Man devs need to get with the times, you can't do this anymore with fighting games

well anyways, as I've said many times, SCIV was fine the way it was because there were no f***ing fighting games on current gen consoles back then. Unless you counted DoA4 and Def Jam Icon. and I don't. Ugh.

but they actually REMOVED stuff from the sequel. good lord

lets see here, SCV had that crappy story mode where they force characters on you and the game only has one ending

and like I've said in the other topic, the game's cutscenes are done with "Slideshows"
but unlike SSFIV and MvC3, the images aren't complete, they're a step up from rough story board draft drawings, they're like stylized sketches,.but I mean, COME ON, color them at the very least. Its also embarrassing how they try to add like, footsteps and various sound effects and stuff as if it WERE animated or in motion.

and to top it all of, they actually, inconsistently, sprinkle actual rendered motion cutscenes into story mode from time to time. I think this is a sign this game was rushed. and yea, story mode doesn't answer anything. it doesn't tell you what happened to Taki, Cassandra, Xiahuanga or whatever her name is, and...well, almost everybody! Ivy makes a Cameo, Siegfried is more of a plot device than anything, and it doesn't explain why Kilik doesn't wield a staff anymore. and the story only kinda revolves around 3 characters, the other new characters only get one scene then they're gone for good. what the f*** is this

now this would been okay if you could pick your character and they have their own story, but NO, JUST this one! <_>

now, if you didn't want to watch endings in SCIV, you could do the tower, which is actually kinda interesting, though somewhat frustrating. SCV however, only had Legendary mode or Legacy mode or somecrap. its basically an arcade mode style run through all of the boss characters on the highest difficulty. in the tower, it took a long time to complete everything and you definitely couldn't do it in one sitting. it made you think and it kept you on your toes. Legacy mode is just 30 minutes of REALLY hard matches. and it gave no indication that I unlocked anything from it, or if I'll get a reward if I do it with other characters.

AND THATS IT

Unless I'm missing something, thats all the game has. I didn't even see a gallery mode. the game doesn't have a shop. The shop was annoying, but you could at least see all of the items that needed to be unlocked. in 5, I have no idea what else I'm supposed to do to earn more creation mode items. we beat the game, beat arcade mode with several people, played several online matches and played several quick play matches (I beat Harada Tekken aw yea).

What else is there? what do I do to get more clothes and s***? I have no clue!

and I dunno, after creating a few characters, i think they actually recycled most of their items too

yea, I'm just chalking this up to the game being rushed.

Don't get me wrong, it plays great, I had fun, and online is definitely the meat of the game, as is with every fighting game
but as an actual "game" it somehow is even worse than MvC3

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Weakupedia
02/01/12 1:07:00 AM
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the gameplay itself is way better than sc4 so far

so it's a better fighting game imo

also the cas is way better, even if lots of stuff is recycled!

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TheRock1525
02/01/12 1:08:00 AM
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It has Ezio in it, therefore it is my favorite fighting game ever.

Even though I suck at it.

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Forceful_Dragon
02/01/12 1:09:00 AM
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I stared at the topic title for a solid 30 seconds before I knew what it was about.

I imagined:
http://images.wikia.com/starcraft/images/b/bb/SCV_SC2_DevRend1.jpeg



I'm a huge fan of Soul Calibur btw. I played the crap out of 2 way back when (in fact I still play SC2 semi regularly. Best voldo or cassandra in fresno confirmed) but I just don't have it in me to see "SCV" and not think StarCraft

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Emporer_Kazbar
02/01/12 1:10:00 AM
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So would you recommend someone who wants to buy it to do so? Or would you argue against that?

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_BALLIN_
02/01/12 1:10:00 AM
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SCIII is still the best soul calibur game

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Weakupedia
02/01/12 1:12:00 AM
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sc3 was the worst and almost killed the series

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BIGPUN9999
02/01/12 1:13:00 AM
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From: Emporer_Kazbar | #005
So would you recommend someone who wants to buy it to do so? Or would you argue against that?


I'd probably hold off, man

unless you're just gonna go online and go all hardcore SC player and just do that for 100 hours

and I know most of you don't like doing that

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Weakupedia
02/01/12 1:14:00 AM
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yeah only losers do that

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BIGPUN9999
02/01/12 1:14:00 AM
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yea, SCIII was definitely the worst but hey, on paper, it had potential to be one of the best

it was just executed very, very horribly

that game is probably the reason why they don't try doing anything cool or new with these recent games

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BIGPUN9999
02/01/12 1:15:00 AM
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Korean Losers mostly

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TheRock1525
02/01/12 1:15:00 AM
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I wish I could put an Ezio hood on my CAS.

Then I would love this game forever.

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BIGPUN9999
02/01/12 1:17:00 AM
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I'm pretty sure you can

or at least, some sort of hood

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BIGPUN9999
02/01/12 1:25:00 AM
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Weaku, what happened to Cass

why didn't those moron kids go to their Auntie?

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Sorozone
02/01/12 1:28:00 AM
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I'm having a lot more fun on V than I ever did with IV. My only gripe is that team battle is gone.

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Forceful_Dragon
02/01/12 1:32:00 AM
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Punny, take a break and watch Cosmo stream SCV:
http://www.twitch.tv/cosmowright

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blindhobo13
02/01/12 1:33:00 AM
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I'm always the one telling my friends that "story doesn't matter in fighting games, etc." when they ***** but man this actually annoyed me when I found out how lacking it was in single player content. At least character endings man come on, no matter how ridiculous they were I at least felt something about the god damn character I was playing.

Obviously, the gameplay seems to be 'better' (for the first few days at least) and more well received than previous games and that's great and all but it's not like more single player content makes it a worse game. What was the point of doing the timeskip if you're not going to fully work with all the new **** that came with it?

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YetAnothrShadow
02/01/12 1:35:00 AM
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I'm having fun so far.

Mainly online though. Offline stuff is kind of garbage.

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BIGPUN9999
02/01/12 1:42:00 AM
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again, I had fun with the gameplay and I KNOW the game is meant for competitive play. I KNOW this. I play fighting games ALL of the time for hundreds of hours and s***. The game plays great.

I'm just pointing out how disappointing and lacking the entire thing is, even moreso than the last one, cause the last one was bare bones to begin with.

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YetAnothrShadow
02/01/12 1:49:00 AM
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Btw, I'm at episode 3 I think in the story.

Do I get to be different characters or am I stuck with prince cocky *** ****?

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BIGPUN9999
02/01/12 1:52:00 AM
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From: blindhobo13 | #017
I'm always the one telling my friends that "story doesn't matter in fighting games, etc." when they *****


I disagree, I'd like to know what the characters have accomplished since the last game, what their current goals are, and what happens at the end of their journey. Otherwise you're just a bunch of dudes mindlessly beating each other up with no substance.

at the same time, the standard for FGs in the 90s shouldn't be the standard now either

and to make it worse, this game has a post time skip story and it doesn't explain ANYTHING. sure, its fun having new stuff, but they don't do anything with it outside of the 3 characters.

the worst part is, NAMCO made this game. They handled Tekken's timeskip well enough.

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BIGPUN9999
02/01/12 1:52:00 AM
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From: YetAnothrShadow | #020
Btw, I'm at episode 3 I think in the story.

Do I get to be different characters or am I stuck with prince cocky *** ****?


you alternate between 3 characters. thats it.

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StealThisSheen
02/01/12 2:01:00 AM
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You don't even alternate, really.

70% Prince Cocky F***
29% Princess Who The F*** Cares
1% ZWEI



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OmarsComin
02/01/12 2:01:00 AM
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Honestly all I want from fighting game 1 player is an arcade mode with text endings like MK3 had. Nothing more fancy than that.
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02/01/12 2:07:00 AM
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blindhobo13
02/01/12 2:08:00 AM
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From: BIGPUN9999 | #021
I disagree, I'd like to know what the characters have accomplished since the last game, what their current goals are, and what happens at the end of their journey. Otherwise you're just a bunch of dudes mindlessly beating each other up with no substance.

at the same time, the standard for FGs in the 90s shouldn't be the standard now either

and to make it worse, this game has a post time skip story and it doesn't explain ANYTHING. sure, its fun having new stuff, but they don't do anything with it outside of the 3 characters.

the worst part is, NAMCO made this game. They handled Tekken's timeskip well enough.


No, I agree with you. Honestly a big part of why the Soul has been one of my favorite FG series (along with Guilty Gear) is because of its characters. Characters are actually a big part of the reason I like fighters so much which might sound weird considering the genre is full of ones who have about as much depth as random NPCs in RPGs. I just said the "story doesn't matter' line because I have a couple friends who hold fighting game arcade endings to the same standard as 30 hour RPGs. But that doesn't mean I think they shouldn't have a story at all.

Like I said, the time skip does bug me since if they're not going to be doing anything with it, all they did was just end up removing a lot of the fan favorites. I played a mix of X/Sophie/Mina/Yun in the old games and with them all replaced/kicked out of this one, it gives me a chance to find a new main because I don't care about their replacements enough to decide on "maining" them yet. Because I have to like my characters for me to play as them in fighters. And although sometimes this can be accomplished by simply their fighting style, the other stuff was a bigger draw for me. I didn't have a lot of friends who wanted to play fighters with me and the reason why I got interested in the competitive scene was because my attachment to the characters became enough for me to want to see what it'd be like if I dove deeper. But that initial interest was fostered by 'story'.


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BIGPUN9999
02/01/12 9:17:00 AM
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one thing I liked were the super combos they added. Those are neat, though not entirely balanced.

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Pirateking2000
02/01/12 9:49:00 AM
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BIGPUN9999 posted...
Weaku, what happened to Cass

why didn't those moron kids go to their Auntie?


Yeah what was up with that >_>

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PrivateBiscuit1
02/01/12 9:53:00 AM
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If you want backstory for this game, check out the official website!

Otherwise you aren't learning s*** about anyone.

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BIGPUN9999
02/01/12 9:56:00 AM
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From: PrivateBiscuit1 | #029
If you want backstory for this game, check out the official website!


thats f***ing lame as s***

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PrivateBiscuit1
02/01/12 9:58:00 AM
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Also, I feel like they knew where to put their focus on with their rushed deadline.

Like, they obviously wanted to do more... but they got their priorities set straight. If your fighting game has s***ty gameplay now and s***ty online, people aren't going to be happy with it. They focused on that. Reading everyone's story for this game, they actually do have a lot of stuff planned out that is actually pretty interesting. They just, uh... couldn't get to it.

To be completely honest, the ONLY thing that I enjoyed out of the story is the whole Elysium deal. (Not the actual portrayal of it, but rather the idea of it)

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02/01/12 10:00:00 AM
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BIGPUN9999
02/01/12 10:00:00 AM
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I'm glad they brought back Sophitia's model in skimpy Valkyrie clothing again

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BIGPUN9999
02/01/12 4:18:00 PM
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why did they put more clothes on Ivy and Tira

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PrivateBiscuit1
02/01/12 4:22:00 PM
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To have more clothes to take off when you hit them with a move at the end of the round!

Also, I need to find someone simpler than Cervantes to practice my defense with. I want to try LE BELLO MAGNIFICENCE, but I feel like he would be even harder.

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MZero11
02/01/12 4:27:00 PM
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who plays fighting games for single player modes I don't understand this.

SCV has better Gameplay and FAR better customization. Way better than 4

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BIGPUN9999
02/01/12 4:29:00 PM
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From: MZero11 | #036
who plays fighting games for single player modes I don't understand this.


alot of people

get with the times

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WazzupGenius00
02/01/12 4:30:00 PM
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alot of dumb people

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BIGPUN9999
02/01/12 4:31:00 PM
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your mom is alot of dumb people

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BIGPUN9999
02/01/12 4:35:00 PM
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come on guys, seriously

in this day and age, do you really not demand any content for your 60 bucks?

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PrivateBiscuit1
02/01/12 4:36:00 PM
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Nowadays content is a feasible netcode for fighting games.

Or at least it is since Capcom set the standard!

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DigitalIncision
02/01/12 4:36:00 PM
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Gonna gamefly it

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Psycho_Kenshin
02/01/12 4:37:00 PM
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Well, I liked the single player story better than SCIV's, and the game is better for playing versus which is why I have it, so I'm satisified with SCV. Only downside is lack of Taki.

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MZero11
02/01/12 4:41:00 PM
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From: BIGPUN9999 | #040
come on guys, seriously

in this day and age, do you really not demand any content for your 60 bucks?


I prefer a broader range of customization and superior gameplay to single player modes >_>

THAT IS THE CONTENT I DEMAND

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