Board 8 > The Real Cost of Being a Video Gamer

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Paratroopa1 01/31/12 6:15:00 PM #51:	How bad can you possibly be at a game where you can't die? <cite>Paratroopa1 posted [p:731841] in The Real C... [t:61812848]...</cite> <quote> How bad can you possibly be at a game where you can't die? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RPGLord95 01/31/12 6:20:00 PM #52:	This guy thinks too small. My PC tower is made of motherboards and all my consoles have portable screens and power sources attached. My iPad also has an extra motherboard and it's own iPhone -- Whiskey Nick at work The most American Canadian on Board 8 - #9 Bro on Board 8 <cite>RPGLord95 posted [p:731842] in The Real C... [t:61812848]...</cite> <quote> This guy thinks too small. My PC tower is made of motherboards and all my consoles have portable screens and power sources attached. My iPad also has an extra motherboard and it's own iPhone -- Whiskey Nick at workThe most American Canadian on Board 8 - #9 Bro on Board 8 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ayuyu 01/31/12 6:23:00 PM #53:	From: Paratroopa1 \| #051 How bad can you possibly be at a game where you can't die? He got stuck at some area in the first level, like he never realized he could pull zippers or something. That was pretty hilarious to watch though, I never told him what to do. -- http://img.imgcake.com/cosplaygifer.gif http://img.imgcake.com/1327549040189jpgez.jpg <cite>Ayuyu posted [p:731843] in The Real C... [t:61812848]...</cite> <quote> From: Paratroopa1 \| #051How bad can you possibly be at a game where you can't die?He got stuck at some area in the first level, like he never realized he could pull zippers or something.That was pretty hilarious to watch though, I never told him what to do. -- http://img.imgcake.com/cosplaygifer.gifhttp://img.imgcake.com/1327549040189jpgez.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolm0ron 01/31/12 6:25:00 PM #54:	From: RPGLord95 \| #052 This guy thinks too small. My PC tower is made of motherboards and all my consoles have portable screens and power sources attached. My iPad also has an extra motherboard and it's own iPhone Oh yeah, my computer has 16 Gigabytes of memory that is made of out of Xbox 360s (each 360 represents 1 bit, on or off, and I link up 16 billion of them) and my monitor is 20 iphone 4s taped together -- _foolmo_ 'Oh please, if foolmo made that analogy you'd think it was picture perfect' - Biolizard28 <cite>foolm0ron posted [p:731844] in The Real C... [t:61812848]...</cite> <quote> From: RPGLord95 \| #052This guy thinks too small. My PC tower is made of motherboards and all my consoles have portable screens and power sources attached. My iPad also has an extra motherboard and it's own iPhoneOh yeah, my computer has 16 Gigabytes of memory that is made of out of Xbox 360s (each 360 represents 1 bit, on or off, and I link up 16 billion of them) and my monitor is 20 iphone 4s taped together -- _foolmo_'Oh please, if foolmo made that analogy you'd think it was picture perfect' - Biolizard28 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
beavis666x2 01/31/12 6:27:00 PM #55:	My whole house is made of motherboards. I has all the ram. -- Nanomachines: The cause of and solution to all of life's problems. http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/5980/861756874pp6.jpg <cite>beavis666x2 posted [p:731845] in The Real C... [t:61812848]...</cite> <quote> My whole house is made of motherboards. I has all the ram. -- Nanomachines: The cause of and solution to all of life's problems.http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/5980/861756874pp6.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rad Link 5 01/31/12 6:33:00 PM #56:	I replaced my eyeballs with iPhones facing into my skull so I could game on the go. Too late did I realize that's not how vision works. -- Ace Detective in Sir Chris' Police http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/5783/3989110m.png <cite>Rad Link 5 posted [p:731846] in The Real C... [t:61812848]...</cite> <quote> I replaced my eyeballs with iPhones facing into my skull so I could game on the go.Too late did I realize that's not how vision works. -- Ace Detective in Sir Chris' Policehttp://img251.imageshack.us/img251/5783/3989110m.png </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
paperwarior 01/31/12 6:35:00 PM #57:	Man, I'm saving a ton of money and I didn't even know it! -- Weird. Creepy! <cite>paperwarior posted [p:731847] in The Real C... [t:61812848]...</cite> <quote> Man, I'm saving a ton of money and I didn't even know it! -- Weird. Creepy! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red sox 777 01/31/12 6:43:00 PM #58:	While obviously gamers do not need to spend anywhere near that much money buying stuff, the real cost of gaming may be accurate, or even low. They did not include the opportunity cost of gaming, and that should be the biggest cost by far. If the cost of each hour of gaming is $20, for example, and you average an hour a day, that's $7300 per year. After 10 years that's $73,000. -- Congratulations to SuperNiceDog, Guru Winner, who was smart enough to pick your 7 time champion, Link. <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:731848] in The Real C... [t:61812848]...</cite> <quote> While obviously gamers do not need to spend anywhere near that much money buying stuff, the real cost of gaming may be accurate, or even low. They did not include the opportunity cost of gaming, and that should be the biggest cost by far. If the cost of each hour of gaming is $20, for example, and you average an hour a day, that's $7300 per year. After 10 years that's $73,000. -- Congratulations to SuperNiceDog, Guru Winner, who was smart enough to pickyour 7 time champion, Link. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dauntless Hunter 01/31/12 6:46:00 PM #59:	That article is obsessed with buying two of everything. $60: For racing, two Microsoft Wireless Speed Wheels for Xbox 360 -- Best Buy $500: Two BoomChair Sky Lounger Gaming Chairs with built-in speakers, subwoofers and extra-large seating -- Best Buy $100: Two Xbox 360 Live Subscription Gold Cards -- Amazon.com Why do I need to buy two of any of these? Especially Xbox Live memberships, what is the point??? They only had me buy one Xbox! -- Something witty while mentioning SuperNiceDog. Give me a break, I'm not as clever as the Guru Champion. <cite>Dauntless Hunter posted [p:731849] in The Real C... [t:61812848]...</cite> <quote> That article is obsessed with buying two of everything.$60: For racing, two Microsoft Wireless Speed Wheels for Xbox 360 -- Best Buy$500: Two BoomChair Sky Lounger Gaming Chairs with built-in speakers, subwoofers and extra-large seating -- Best Buy$100: Two Xbox 360 Live Subscription Gold Cards -- Amazon.comWhy do I need to buy two of any of these? Especially Xbox Live memberships, what is the point??? They only had me buy one Xbox! -- Something witty while mentioning SuperNiceDog.Give me a break, I'm not as clever as the Guru Champion. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ayuyu 01/31/12 6:47:00 PM #60:	From: Dauntless Hunter \| #059 That article is obsessed with buying two of everything. $60: For racing, two Microsoft Wireless Speed Wheels for Xbox 360 -- Best Buy$500: Two BoomChair Sky Lounger Gaming Chairs with built-in speakers, subwoofers and extra-large seating -- Best Buy $100: Two Xbox 360 Live Subscription Gold Cards -- Amazon.com Why do I need to buy two of any of these? Especially Xbox Live memberships, what is the point??? They only had me buy one Xbox! Because if you have 2 accounts you get more ram. -- http://img.imgcake.com/cosplaygifer.gif http://img.imgcake.com/1327549040189jpgez.jpg <cite>Ayuyu posted [p:731850] in The Real C... [t:61812848]...</cite> <quote> From: Dauntless Hunter \| #059That article is obsessed with buying two of everything.$60: For racing, two Microsoft Wireless Speed Wheels for Xbox 360 -- Best Buy$500: Two BoomChair Sky Lounger Gaming Chairs with built-in speakers, subwoofers and extra-large seating -- Best Buy$100: Two Xbox 360 Live Subscription Gold Cards -- Amazon.comWhy do I need to buy two of any of these? Especially Xbox Live memberships, what is the point??? They only had me buy one Xbox!Because if you have 2 accounts you get more ram. -- http://img.imgcake.com/cosplaygifer.gifhttp://img.imgcake.com/1327549040189jpgez.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red sox 777 01/31/12 6:52:00 PM #61:	I think I like that $73,000 figure, actually. That'd cover gaming from roughly 15 to 25, for an average of an hour a day. Before that, gaming probably has minimal opportunity cost. -- Congratulations to SuperNiceDog, Guru Winner, who was smart enough to pick your 7 time champion, Link. <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:731851] in The Real C... [t:61812848]...</cite> <quote> I think I like that $73,000 figure, actually. That'd cover gaming from roughly 15 to 25, for an average of an hour a day. Before that, gaming probably has minimal opportunity cost. -- Congratulations to SuperNiceDog, Guru Winner, who was smart enough to pickyour 7 time champion, Link. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solfadore 01/31/12 7:00:00 PM #62:	From: red sox 777 \| #058 While obviously gamers do not need to spend anywhere near that much money buying stuff, the real cost of gaming may be accurate, or even low. They did not include the opportunity cost of gaming, and that should be the biggest cost by far. If the cost of each hour of gaming is $20, for example, and you average an hour a day, that's $7300 per year. After 10 years that's $73,000. If you start including opportunity costs, you really start going down a slippery slope. Reading (for leisure), movies, TV, sports, hanging out with friends all have the same opportunity costs as gaming. So yeah, you could trade off all fun in your life for an extra $7,300/14,600/21,900/etc. a year, but it's obviously not worth it. -- When you have nothing to say, quote yourself ~ Solfadore <cite>Solfadore posted [p:731852] in The Real C... [t:61812848]...</cite> <quote> From: red sox 777 \| #058While obviously gamers do not need to spend anywhere near that much money buying stuff, the real cost of gaming may be accurate, or even low. They did not include the opportunity cost of gaming, and that should be the biggest cost by far. If the cost of each hour of gaming is $20, for example, and you average an hour a day, that's $7300 per year. After 10 years that's $73,000.If you start including opportunity costs, you really start going down a slippery slope. Reading (for leisure), movies, TV, sports, hanging out with friends all have the same opportunity costs as gaming. So yeah, you could trade off all fun in your life for an extra $7,300/14,600/21,900/etc. a year, but it's obviously not worth it. -- When you have nothing to say, quote yourself ~ Solfadore </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordoftheMorons 01/31/12 7:02:00 PM #63:	Not to mention the fact that you don't necessarily even have the opportunity to work more hours. -- No I'm not a damn furry. Looney Tunes are different. - Guiga I wanted Sonic/Shadow romance at that time, not sex. - MWE <cite>LordoftheMorons posted [p:731853] in The Real C... [t:61812848]...</cite> <quote> Not to mention the fact that you don't necessarily even have the opportunity to work more hours. -- No I'm not a damn furry. Looney Tunes are different. - GuigaI wanted Sonic/Shadow romance at that time, not sex. - MWE </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paratroopa1 01/31/12 7:03:00 PM #64:	You know, when I think about it, this whole list almost starts to make sense if you think less about this list as a list of specific items, and more just generally what gamers spend money on. Like, 150 dollars on merchandise stuff, but not necessarily that specific stuff. Okay, no, it's still stupid, nevermind. <cite>Paratroopa1 posted [p:731854] in The Real C... [t:61812848]...</cite> <quote> You know, when I think about it, this whole list almost starts to make sense if you think less about this list as a list of specific items, and more just generally what gamers spend money on. Like, 150 dollars on merchandise stuff, but not necessarily that specific stuff.Okay, no, it's still stupid, nevermind. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red sox 777 01/31/12 7:06:00 PM #65:	If you start including opportunity costs, you really start going down a slippery slope. Reading (for leisure), movies, TV, sports, hanging out with friends all have the same opportunity costs as gaming. So yeah, you could trade off all fun in your life for an extra $7,300/14,600/21,900/etc. a year, but it's obviously not worth it. It's obviously not worth it because those things are worth more than the money. It's fine if people think gaming is worth a lot of money too, and I think people really do, despite what they claim, given how much time they put into it. It's true that there's some amount of work time that maximizes wealth- for example, if you do nothing but work and study, you might actually do less well because you'll be missing important components of life that also help build wealth. And as we get closer to that point, the marginal value of another hour spend working goes down. But either way, the real cost of being a video gamer is a lot more than what's in that article. -- Congratulations to SuperNiceDog, Guru Winner, who was smart enough to pick your 7 time champion, Link. <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:731855] in The Real C... [t:61812848]...</cite> <quote> If you start including opportunity costs, you really start going down a slippery slope. Reading (for leisure), movies, TV, sports, hanging out with friends all have the same opportunity costs as gaming. So yeah, you could trade off all fun in your life for an extra $7,300/14,600/21,900/etc. a year, but it's obviously not worth it.It's obviously not worth it because those things are worth more than the money. It's fine if people think gaming is worth a lot of money too, and I think people really do, despite what they claim, given how much time they put into it.It's true that there's some amount of work time that maximizes wealth- for example, if you do nothing but work and study, you might actually do less well because you'll be missing important components of life that also help build wealth. And as we get closer to that point, the marginal value of another hour spend working goes down.But either way, the real cost of being a video gamer is a lot more than what's in that article. -- Congratulations to SuperNiceDog, Guru Winner, who was smart enough to pickyour 7 time champion, Link. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red sox 777 01/31/12 7:08:00 PM #66:	Not to mention the fact that you don't necessarily even have the opportunity to work more hours. When you are in school, you do have the chance to "work" more hours to get better grades. Working, you get the chance to put in more time/effort to get a promotion faster. If you start a business, that's obviously true again. It's not really about hourly wages, which don't contribute much to expected lifetime income anyway. -- Congratulations to SuperNiceDog, Guru Winner, who was smart enough to pick your 7 time champion, Link. <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:731856] in The Real C... [t:61812848]...</cite> <quote> Not to mention the fact that you don't necessarily even have the opportunity to work more hours.When you are in school, you do have the chance to "work" more hours to get better grades. Working, you get the chance to put in more time/effort to get a promotion faster. If you start a business, that's obviously true again. It's not really about hourly wages, which don't contribute much to expected lifetime income anyway. -- Congratulations to SuperNiceDog, Guru Winner, who was smart enough to pickyour 7 time champion, Link. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Azp2k32 01/31/12 7:08:00 PM #67:	Hahahaha oh wow. Even if you can get beyond the fact that this is all stupid as hell... it's not even done properly going by their own idiotic standards. If you're a family of four "gamers" who play iPods for handhelds, you don't have 1 iPod for the entirety of your family. -- http://www.nbc.com/parks-and-recreation/exclusives/ron-dancing-animated.gif <cite>Azp2k32 posted [p:731857] in The Real C... [t:61812848]...</cite> <quote> Hahahaha oh wow. Even if you can get beyond the fact that this is all stupid as hell... it's not even done properly going by their own idiotic standards. If you're a family of four "gamers" who play iPods for handhelds, you don't have 1 iPod for the entirety of your family. -- http://www.nbc.com/parks-and-recreation/exclusives/ron-dancing-animated.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cloud and Squall 01/31/12 7:10:00 PM #68:	Uhh... why is the Cost of opportunity of gaming $20 per hour? The Cost of Opportunity of one gaming hour would be... one hour doing something else. That hour of doing something else doesn't equate to $20.00 -- unless you decide to skip work to play games, and make $20.00 per hour. Or if someone decided to pay you $20.00 for every free hour you have, as long as it's not spent playing video games (and if so, where can I meet this person?) -- See You In Another Life, Brother. <cite>Cloud and Squall posted [p:731858] in The Real C... [t:61812848]...</cite> <quote> Uhh... why is the Cost of opportunity of gaming $20 per hour?The Cost of Opportunity of one gaming hour would be... one hour doing something else. That hour of doing something else doesn't equate to $20.00 -- unless you decide to skip work to play games, and make $20.00 per hour. Or if someone decided to pay you $20.00 for every free hour you have, as long as it's not spent playing video games (and if so, where can I meet this person?) -- See You In Another Life, Brother. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Australia18 01/31/12 7:16:00 PM #69:	*Ayuyu posted...* From: Paratroopa1 \| #047 If there exists anywhere a person who would wear a t-shirt with a 1up on it without actually having ever played Mario, they are the worst kind of hipster imaginable. Hey that's my roommate, he has a Mario shirt but Mario games are way too hard to him so he won't even try them. Kirby Epic Yarn was too hard for him so just imagine. If your roomate isn't used to play videogames, it's just normal that he's not that good. Don't you think laughing and not helping him is not quite the right attitude? Perhaps his playing skills are not great but your social skills seems to suck for sure!!!!! <cite>Australia18 posted [p:731859] in The Real C... [t:61812848]...</cite> <quote> Ayuyu posted...From: Paratroopa1 \| #047If there exists anywhere a person who would wear a t-shirt with a 1up on it without actually having ever played Mario, they are the worst kind of hipster imaginable.Hey that's my roommate, he has a Mario shirt but Mario games are way too hard to him so he won't even try them.Kirby Epic Yarn was too hard for him so just imagine.If your roomate isn't used to play videogames, it's just normal that he's not that good. Don't you think laughing and not helping him is not quite the right attitude? Perhaps his playing skills are not greatbut your social skills seems to suck for sure!!!!! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red sox 777 01/31/12 7:16:00 PM #70:	It's just an arbitrary guess that seemed in the right ballpark. It's obviously very different from person to person, and even for the same person at different times in his life. And for how it would actually work, suppose that because of the 3650 hours you have put into gaming over 10 years, your salary is $5,000 less than what it would be otherwise. $5,00040 years = $200,000 right there. We're dealing with expected values at every stage of course, so for any given person the actual results could diverge wildly from the expected (meaning average, weighted by probability) results. -- Congratulations to SuperNiceDog, Guru Winner, who was smart enough to pick your 7 time* champion, Link. <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:731860] in The Real C... [t:61812848]...</cite> <quote> It's just an arbitrary guess that seemed in the right ballpark. It's obviously very different from person to person, and even for the same person at different times in his life.And for how it would actually work, suppose that because of the 3650 hours you have put into gaming over 10 years, your salary is $5,000 less than what it would be otherwise. $5,000*40 years = $200,000 right there. We're dealing with expected values at every stage of course, so for any given person the actual results could diverge wildly from the expected (meaning average, weighted by probability) results. -- Congratulations to SuperNiceDog, Guru Winner, who was smart enough to pickyour 7 time champion, Link. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ayuyu 01/31/12 7:17:00 PM #71:	From: Australia18 \| #069 *Ayuyu posted...* From: Paratroopa1 \| #047 If there exists anywhere a person who would wear a t-shirt with a 1up on it without actually having ever played Mario, they are the worst kind of hipster imaginable. Hey that's my roommate, he has a Mario shirt but Mario games are way too hard to him so he won't even try them. Kirby Epic Yarn was too hard for him so just imagine. If your roomate isn't used to play videogames, it's just normal that he's not that good. Don't you think laughing and not helping him is not quite the right attitude? Perhaps his playing skills are not great but your social skills seems to suck for sure!!!!! I just hate my roommate. -- http://img.imgcake.com/cosplaygifer.gif http://img.imgcake.com/1327549040189jpgez.jpg <cite>Ayuyu posted [p:731861] in The Real C... [t:61812848]...</cite> <quote> From: Australia18 \| #069Ayuyu posted...From: Paratroopa1 \| #047If there exists anywhere a person who would wear a t-shirt with a 1up on it without actually having ever played Mario, they are the worst kind of hipster imaginable.Hey that's my roommate, he has a Mario shirt but Mario games are way too hard to him so he won't even try them.Kirby Epic Yarn was too hard for him so just imagine.If your roomate isn't used to play videogames, it's just normal that he's not that good. Don't you think laughing and not helping him is not quite the right attitude? Perhaps his playing skills are not greatbut your social skills seems to suck for sure!!!!!I just hate my roommate. -- http://img.imgcake.com/cosplaygifer.gifhttp://img.imgcake.com/1327549040189jpgez.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OmarsComin 01/31/12 7:23:00 PM #72:	isn't Bloomberg some respected financial news company or something after reading this article I have a better idea of why our financial system is in such turmoil it's because the people involved in it are kind of really dumb <cite>OmarsComin posted [p:731862] in The Real C... [t:61812848]...</cite> <quote> isn't Bloomberg some respected financial news company or somethingafter reading this article I have a better idea of why our financial system is in such turmoilit's because the people involved in it are kind of really dumb </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solfadore 01/31/12 7:25:00 PM #73:	Red's argument makes sense if you limit it to high school/college/university, or to certain kinds of jobs in which you can put as many hours as you want. E.g. choosing to spend an hour on gaming means one less hour spent on studying (or on relevant professional experience), which could translate into lesser grades and a lesser salary later. Of course, that is not true for the vast majority of situations. The majority of jobs are limited to, let's say, 40 hours a week. You can't work the additional hour, and if you do, you won't get paid. An additional hour of studying might not help at all if you already achieved the most of your potential already (you can't get more than 100%, for instance, and it's not by studying ten hours that you'll do any better). Similarly, you noted that after a certain time, more hours of work are inefficient and have very little value. Furthermore, as noted earlier - and I actually think that's the strongest counterargument to your point - you could say that of all leisure activities. Up to a certain point, every hour spent on leisure have an opportunity cost - often the exact same opportunity cost than other activities. If you happen to be someone who likes gaming a whole lot, you could even say that gaming has less of an opportunity cost than reading, because you're getting more fun out of an hour of gaming than an hour of reading, and therefore are happier in life and more productive at work/school. If you want to make the 'opportunity costs' argument for gaming, you have to be ready to make it for all possible leisure activities, which is... not very useful. -- When you have nothing to say, quote yourself ~ Solfadore <cite>Solfadore posted [p:731863] in The Real C... [t:61812848]...</cite> <quote> Red's argument makes sense if you limit it to high school/college/university, or to certain kinds of jobs in which you can put as many hours as you want. E.g. choosing to spend an hour on gaming means one less hour spent on studying (or on relevant professional experience), which could translate into lesser grades and a lesser salary later.Of course, that is not true for the vast majority of situations. The majority of jobs are limited to, let's say, 40 hours a week. You can't work the additional hour, and if you do, you won't get paid. An additional hour of studying might not help at all if you already achieved the most of your potential already (you can't get more than 100%, for instance, and it's not by studying ten hours that you'll do any better). Similarly, you noted that after a certain time, more hours of work are inefficient and have very little value.Furthermore, as noted earlier - and I actually think that's the strongest counterargument to your point - you could say that of all leisure activities. Up to a certain point, every hour spent on leisure have an opportunity cost - often the exact same opportunity cost than other activities. If you happen to be someone who likes gaming a whole lot, you could even say that gaming has less of an opportunity cost than reading, because you're getting more fun out of an hour of gaming than an hour of reading, and therefore are happier in life and more productive at work/school. If you want to make the 'opportunity costs' argument for gaming, you have to be ready to make it for all possible leisure activities, which is... not very useful. -- When you have nothing to say, quote yourself ~ Solfadore </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cloud and Squall 01/31/12 7:25:00 PM #74:	And for how it would actually work, suppose that because of the 3650 hours you have put into gaming over 10 years, your salary is $5,000 less than what it would be otherwise. $5,00040 years = $200,000 right there. We're dealing with expected values at every stage of course, so for any given person the actual results could diverge wildly from the expected (meaning average, weighted by probability) results. The problem is, you'd have to prove the correlation between that hour of gaming, and the extra $5000 a year salary (not to mention prove that with an extra hour a day, you'd actually be making $5000 more a year) Many jobs, putting that extra hour in isn't going to get you promoted, or a raise. And some jobs have it where there's only so much you CAN do. Why are we supposing that that 3650 hours we spend gaming is what contributes to not making $5000 more a year? If you spend an hour gaming, and then an hour watching tv -- that's going to split the time that COULD be spent working (assuming there is in fact work to do) -- See You In Another Life, Brother. <cite>Cloud and Squall posted [p:731864] in The Real C... [t:61812848]...</cite> <quote> And for how it would actually work, suppose that because of the 3650 hours you have put into gaming over 10 years, your salary is $5,000 less than what it would be otherwise. $5,00040 years = $200,000 right there. We're dealing with expected values at every stage of course, so for any given person the actual results could diverge wildly from the expected (meaning average, weighted by probability) results.The problem is, you'd have to prove the correlation between that hour of gaming, and the extra $5000 a year salary (not to mention prove that with an extra hour a day, you'd actually be making $5000 more a year)Many jobs, putting that extra hour in isn't going to get you promoted, or a raise. And some jobs have it where there's only so much you CAN do.Why are we supposing that that 3650 hours we spend gaming is what contributes to not making $5000 more a year? If you spend an hour gaming, and then an hour watching tv -- that's going to split the time that COULD be spent working (assuming there is in fact work to do) -- See You In Another Life, Brother. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Australia18 01/31/12 7:30:00 PM #75:	*Ayuyu posted...* From: Australia18 \| #069 Ayuyu posted... From: Paratroopa1 \| #047 If there exists anywhere a person who would wear a t-shirt with a 1up on it without actually having ever played Mario, they are the worst kind of hipster imaginable. Hey that's my roommate, he has a Mario shirt but Mario games are way too hard to him so he won't even try them. Kirby Epic Yarn was too hard for him so just imagine. If your roomate isn't used to play videogames, it's just normal that he's not that good. Don't you think laughing and not helping him is not quite the right attitude? Perhaps his playing skills are not great but your social skills seems to suck for sure!!!!! I just hate my roommate. Isn't he your friend? Well I just hope for you that he never reads all you're saying about him on this forum... guess it would be enough to make him hate you back lol. Why do you hate so much your roommate? <cite>Australia18 posted [p:731865] in The Real C... [t:61812848]...</cite> <quote> Ayuyu posted...From: Australia18 \| #069Ayuyu posted...From: Paratroopa1 \| #047If there exists anywhere a person who would wear a t-shirt with a 1up on it without actually having ever played Mario, they are the worst kind of hipster imaginable.Hey that's my roommate, he has a Mario shirt but Mario games are way too hard to him so he won't even try them.Kirby Epic Yarn was too hard for him so just imagine.If your roomate isn't used to play videogames, it's just normal that he's not that good. Don't you think laughing and not helping him is not quite the right attitude? Perhaps his playing skills are not greatbut your social skills seems to suck for sure!!!!!I just hate my roommate.Isn't he your friend? Well I just hope for you that he never reads all you're saying about him on this forum... guess it would be enough to make him hate you back lol.Why do you hate so much your roommate? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ayuyu 01/31/12 7:31:00 PM #76:	He is my friend. But I hate him as a roommate, and more often than not this hate overcomes my friendship. So uh, I'm conflicted. But I guess it'll be alright once I finally move out. -- http://img.imgcake.com/cosplaygifer.gif http://img.imgcake.com/1327549040189jpgez.jpg <cite>Ayuyu posted [p:731866] in The Real C... [t:61812848]...</cite> <quote> He is my friend.But I hate him as a roommate, and more often than not this hate overcomes my friendship.So uh, I'm conflicted. But I guess it'll be alright once I finally move out. -- http://img.imgcake.com/cosplaygifer.gifhttp://img.imgcake.com/1327549040189jpgez.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Emporer_Kazbar 01/31/12 7:35:00 PM #77:	From: Australia18 \| #069 If your roomate isn't used to play videogames, it's just normal that he's not that good. Don't you think laughing and not helping him is not quite the right attitude? Perhaps his playing skills are not great but your social skills seems to suck for sure!!!!! A trained chimp could beat KEY. If the dude can't beat that game, he is not just "not used to playing video games". That's some legendary level of horrid. -- Will not remove this line of my signature until the Seahawks, Jazz or Rockies win a title (Started 5-16-09) SuperNiceDog: Guru winner <cite>Emporer_Kazbar posted [p:731867] in The Real C... [t:61812848]...</cite> <quote> From: Australia18 \| #069If your roomate isn't used to play videogames, it's just normal that he's not that good. Don't you think laughing and not helping him is not quite the right attitude? Perhaps his playing skills are not greatbut your social skills seems to suck for sure!!!!!A trained chimp could beat KEY. If the dude can't beat that game, he is not just "not used to playing video games". That's some legendary level of horrid. -- Will not remove this line of my signature until the Seahawks, Jazz or Rockies win a title (Started 5-16-09)SuperNiceDog: Guru winner </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red sox 777 01/31/12 7:38:00 PM #78:	Well, it's all about expected value. Let's take lawyers as an example. Entry salaries for lawyers are bimodal- there is one peak at $160,000/yr, and below that, very little until you get to $80,000 and below. All you need to get a $2,000/yr expected loss out of this (in line with the $73,000 figure) is for gaming to reduce your chances of getting the higher peak by 2.5%. That's 1 in 40. Not a very high hurdle at all for 10 years' worth of gaming. Now, most professions won't have as sharp a divide as that, but you can see how we could easily breach that 73k figure even if it makes 0 difference to a majority of people. Concentration of wealth in the hands of the top 1% and all. -- Congratulations to SuperNiceDog, Guru Winner, who was smart enough to pick your 7 time champion, Link. <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:731868] in The Real C... [t:61812848]...</cite> <quote> Well, it's all about expected value. Let's take lawyers as an example. Entry salaries for lawyers are bimodal- there is one peak at $160,000/yr, and below that, very little until you get to $80,000 and below. All you need to get a $2,000/yr expected loss out of this (in line with the $73,000 figure) is for gaming to reduce your chances of getting the higher peak by 2.5%. That's 1 in 40. Not a very high hurdle at all for 10 years' worth of gaming.Now, most professions won't have as sharp a divide as that, but you can see how we could easily breach that 73k figure even if it makes 0 difference to a majority of people. Concentration of wealth in the hands of the top 1% and all. -- Congratulations to SuperNiceDog, Guru Winner, who was smart enough to pickyour 7 time champion, Link. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Australia18 01/31/12 7:40:00 PM #79:	*Ayuyu posted...* He is my friend. But I hate him as a roommate, and more often than not this hate overcomes my friendship. So uh, I'm conflicted. But I guess it'll be alright once I finally move out. But I want to know why you hate him as a roommate? <cite>Australia18 posted [p:731869] in The Real C... [t:61812848]...</cite> <quote> Ayuyu posted...He is my friend.But I hate him as a roommate, and more often than not this hate overcomes my friendship.So uh, I'm conflicted. But I guess it'll be alright once I finally move out.But I want to know why you hate him as a roommate? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ayuyu 01/31/12 7:41:00 PM #80:	From: Australia18 \| #079 *Ayuyu posted...* He is my friend. But I hate him as a roommate, and more often than not this hate overcomes my friendship. So uh, I'm conflicted. But I guess it'll be alright once I finally move out. But I want to know why you hate him as a roommate? Because of various things I've discussed in various topics. -- http://img.imgcake.com/cosplaygifer.gif http://img.imgcake.com/1327549040189jpgez.jpg <cite>Ayuyu posted [p:731870] in The Real C... [t:61812848]...</cite> <quote> From: Australia18 \| #079Ayuyu posted...He is my friend.But I hate him as a roommate, and more often than not this hate overcomes my friendship.So uh, I'm conflicted. But I guess it'll be alright once I finally move out.But I want to know why you hate him as a roommate?Because of various things I've discussed in various topics. -- http://img.imgcake.com/cosplaygifer.gifhttp://img.imgcake.com/1327549040189jpgez.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Australia18 01/31/12 7:44:00 PM #81:	*Ayuyu posted...* From: Australia18 \| #079 Ayuyu posted... He is my friend. But I hate him as a roommate, and more often than not this hate overcomes my friendship. So uh, I'm conflicted. But I guess it'll be alright once I finally move out. But I want to know why you hate him as a roommate? Because of various things I've discussed in various topics. Well, give me some example <cite>Australia18 posted [p:731871] in The Real C... [t:61812848]...</cite> <quote> Ayuyu posted...From: Australia18 \| #079Ayuyu posted...He is my friend.But I hate him as a roommate, and more often than not this hate overcomes my friendship.So uh, I'm conflicted. But I guess it'll be alright once I finally move out.But I want to know why you hate him as a roommate?Because of various things I've discussed in various topics.Well, give me some example </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OmarsComin 01/31/12 7:45:00 PM #82:	maybe Austrailia18 is your roommate <cite>OmarsComin posted [p:731872] in The Real C... [t:61812848]...</cite> <quote> maybe Austrailia18 is your roommate </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Australia18 01/31/12 7:46:00 PM #83:	*Ayuyu posted...* From: Australia18 \| #079 Ayuyu posted... He is my friend. But I hate him as a roommate, and more often than not this hate overcomes my friendship. So uh, I'm conflicted. But I guess it'll be alright once I finally move out. But I want to know why you hate him as a roommate? Because of various things I've discussed in various topics. How sad! Do you think he thinks the same way about your relationship? I once had a friend as a roomate too... It came that he was lazy as hell and he spent his whole days doing nothing while I had to go to school and to work. It ended up quite badly... I just wish you too can work it out before you leave. <cite>Australia18 posted [p:731873] in The Real C... [t:61812848]...</cite> <quote> Ayuyu posted...From: Australia18 \| #079Ayuyu posted...He is my friend.But I hate him as a roommate, and more often than not this hate overcomes my friendship.So uh, I'm conflicted. But I guess it'll be alright once I finally move out.But I want to know why you hate him as a roommate?Because of various things I've discussed in various topics.How sad! Do you think he thinks the same way about your relationship? I once had a friend as a roomate too... It came that he was lazy as hell and he spent his whole days doing nothing while I had to go to school and to work. It ended up quite badly... I just wish you too can work it out before you leave. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Australia18 01/31/12 7:51:00 PM #84:	*OmarsComin posted...* maybe Austrailia18 is your roommate Well, I live in australia but you know, I just feel concern cause I lived quite the same thing as him and I want him to maybe realise that it isn't too late to save his relationship with his friend... which was my case! Well if he actually cares about his friendship <cite>Australia18 posted [p:731874] in The Real C... [t:61812848]...</cite> <quote> OmarsComin posted...maybe Austrailia18 is your roommateWell, I live in australiabut you know, I just feel concern cause I lived quite the same thing as him and I want him to maybe realise that it isn't too late to save his relationship with his friend... which was my case! Well if he actually cares about his friendship </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ngamer64 01/31/12 8:00:00 PM #85:	Thanks for the article link, really opened my eyes. -- thengamer.com/guru thengamer.com/xstats board8.wikia.com Best Show ever? Our interview of Guru Champ SuperNiceDog! <cite>Ngamer64 posted [p:731875] in The Real C... [t:61812848]...</cite> <quote> Thanks for the article link, really opened my eyes. -- thengamer.com/guru thengamer.com/xstats board8.wikia.comBest Show ever? Our interview of Guru Champ SuperNiceDog! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Australia18 01/31/12 8:04:00 PM #86:	*Ayuyu posted...* From: Australia18 \| #079 Ayuyu posted... He is my friend. But I hate him as a roommate, and more often than not this hate overcomes my friendship. So uh, I'm conflicted. But I guess it'll be alright once I finally move out. But I want to know why you hate him as a roommate? Because of various things I've discussed in various topics. I just feel concern cause I lived quite the same thing as you and I want you to realise that it isn't too late to save his relationship with your friend... which was my case! I don't know what happen with your roommate but maybe talk to him will help... <cite>Australia18 posted [p:731876] in The Real C... [t:61812848]...</cite> <quote> Ayuyu posted...From: Australia18 \| #079Ayuyu posted...He is my friend.But I hate him as a roommate, and more often than not this hate overcomes my friendship.So uh, I'm conflicted. But I guess it'll be alright once I finally move out.But I want to know why you hate him as a roommate?Because of various things I've discussed in various topics.I just feel concern cause I lived quite the same thing as you and I want you to realise that it isn't too late to save his relationship with your friend... which was my case! I don't know what happen with your roommate but maybe talk to him will help... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sir Cobain 01/31/12 9:05:00 PM #87:	foolm0ron \| Posted 1/31/2012 8:48:43 PM \| message detail \| quote The holy grail in game play is to make your video experience as lifelike as possible. Whoever wrote this article is an absolute genius It's feels like I'm really losing all my dignity! -- i consider myself a very positive influence on the youths of my community http://sonicgenerationart.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/slider15.jpg <cite>Sir Cobain posted [p:731877] in The Real C... [t:61812848]...</cite> <quote> foolm0ron \| Posted 1/31/2012 8:48:43 PM \| message detail \| quoteThe holy grail in game play is to make your video experience as lifelike as possible.Whoever wrote this article is an absolute geniusIt's feels like I'm really losing all my dignity! -- i consider myself a very positive influence on the youths of my communityhttp://sonicgenerationart.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/slider15.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
metroid composite 01/31/12 9:41:00 PM #88:	*Paratroopa1 posted...* You know, when I think about it, this whole list almost starts to make sense if you think less about this list as a list of specific items, and more just generally what gamers spend money on. Like, 150 dollars on merchandise stuff, but not necessarily that specific stuff. Okay, no, it's still stupid, nevermind. Yeah, I'm pretty sure I've spent less than 17k on games throughout my entire life...counting money that was spent by others on gifts for me. Like...10 or so consoles/handhelds, often not bought right at launch, so like $200 per system, so $2000. Some PCs that I was able to use for gaming over the years; but only when there's a game I really want that my current machine can't run. Maybe another $2000. About 5-20 games per system. Costing anywhere from $5-$60. $3000. Add in PC which is like four more systems, and that's $4200. Some TVs, and some internets. I've been kind-of cheap here, so like...$1000 or so? Admittedly most people will be higher over their life to date because they won't mooch so much internet; let's say $2000. Altogether That's about $10k, for 25 years of gaming combined, or about $400 per year. -- Cats land on their feet. Toast lands peanut butter side down. A cat with toast strapped to its back will hover above the ground in a state of quantum indecision <cite>metroid composite posted [p:731878] in The Real C... [t:61812848]...</cite> <quote> Paratroopa1 posted...You know, when I think about it, this whole list almost starts to make sense if you think less about this list as a list of specific items, and more just generally what gamers spend money on. Like, 150 dollars on merchandise stuff, but not necessarily that specific stuff.Okay, no, it's still stupid, nevermind.Yeah, I'm pretty sure I've spent less than 17k on games throughout my entire life...counting money that was spent by others on gifts for me.Like...10 or so consoles/handhelds, often not bought right at launch, so like $200 per system, so $2000.Some PCs that I was able to use for gaming over the years; but only when there's a game I really want that my current machine can't run. Maybe another $2000.About 5-20 games per system. Costing anywhere from $5-$60. $3000. Add in PC which is like four more systems, and that's $4200.Some TVs, and some internets. I've been kind-of cheap here, so like...$1000 or so? Admittedly most people will be higher over their life to date because they won't mooch so much internet; let's say $2000.Altogether That's about $10k, for 25 years of gaming combined, or about $400 per year. -- Cats land on their feet. Toast lands peanut butter side down. A cat with toast strapped to its back will hover above the ground in a state of quantum indecision </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Australia18 02/01/12 1:12:00 AM #89:	*Ayuyu posted...* From: Australia18 \| #079 Ayuyu posted... He is my friend. But I hate him as a roommate, and more often than not this hate overcomes my friendship. So uh, I'm conflicted. But I guess it'll be alright once I finally move out. But I want to know why you hate him as a roommate? Because of various things I've discussed in various topics. Well, hopefully you will get a better friendship with him soon! -- trey <cite>Australia18 posted [p:731879] in The Real C... [t:61812848]...</cite> <quote> Ayuyu posted...From: Australia18 \| #079Ayuyu posted...He is my friend.But I hate him as a roommate, and more often than not this hate overcomes my friendship.So uh, I'm conflicted. But I guess it'll be alright once I finally move out.But I want to know why you hate him as a roommate?Because of various things I've discussed in various topics.Well, hopefully you will get a better friendship with him soon! -- trey </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VintageGin 02/01/12 1:27:00 AM #90:	...Uh...is there a reason you chose to respond to the same post three times? -- Ginhyun http://img.imgcake.com/Ginhyun/dog198jpgry.jpg <cite>VintageGin posted [p:731880] in The Real C... [t:61812848]...</cite> <quote> ...Uh...is there a reason you chose to respond to the same post three times? -- Ginhyunhttp://img.imgcake.com/Ginhyun/dog198jpgry.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YetAnothrShadow 02/01/12 2:10:00 AM #91:	Oh god. Some of the comments on the early pages on the article. I just.. can't Comprehend how these people think. I just... Ugh. Literally feel dumber for reading this article coupled by comments supposedly posted by college teachers. -- Brawl is like ZSS' breasts. Well rounded for casual players http://img.imgcake.com/1319527328883gifad.gif <cite>YetAnothrShadow posted [p:731881] in The Real C... [t:61812848]...</cite> <quote> Oh god. Some of the comments on the early pages on the article.I just..can'tComprehend how these people think. I just...Ugh. Literally feel dumber for reading this article coupled by comments supposedly posted by college teachers. -- Brawl is like ZSS' breasts. Well rounded for casual playershttp://img.imgcake.com/1319527328883gifad.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MajinZidane 02/01/12 2:32:00 AM #92:	From: foolm0ron \| #054 Oh yeah, my computer has 16 Gigabytes of memory that is made of out of Xbox 360s (each 360 represents 1 bit, on or off, and I link up 16 billion of them) and my monitor is 20 iphone 4s taped together best -- Virtue - "You don't need a reason to help SuperNiceDog." <cite>MajinZidane posted [p:731882] in The Real C... [t:61812848]...</cite> <quote> From: foolm0ron \| #054Oh yeah, my computer has 16 Gigabytes of memory that is made of out of Xbox 360s (each 360 represents 1 bit, on or off, and I link up 16 billion of them) and my monitor is 20 iphone 4s taped togetherbest -- Virtue - "You don't need a reason to help SuperNiceDog." </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voltch 02/01/12 6:51:00 AM #93:	And i thought i was building something powerful. -- Dr voltchball - best in the world. <cite>voltch posted [p:731883] in The Real C... [t:61812848]...</cite> <quote> And i thought i was building something powerful. -- Dr voltchball - best in the world. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voltch 02/01/12 6:55:00 AM #94:	http://www.digitalstormonline.com/comploaddreadnought.asp?id=615846 OMG 10% OFF GUYS! -- Dr voltchball - best in the world. <cite>voltch posted [p:731884] in The Real C... [t:61812848]...</cite> <quote> http://www.digitalstormonline.com/comploaddreadnought.asp?id=615846OMG 10% OFF GUYS! -- Dr voltchball - best in the world. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KingButz 02/01/12 7:48:00 AM #95:	From: voltch \| #094 http://www.digitalstormonline.com/comploaddreadnought.asp?id=615846 OMG 10% OFF GUYS! 10% off? I think I'm getting more than that! -- http://img.imgcake.com/nio/bokbokbokpngur.png Ok everyone this is Bartz so just remember. <cite>KingButz posted [p:731885] in The Real C... [t:61812848]...</cite> <quote> From: voltch \| #094http://www.digitalstormonline.com/comploaddreadnought.asp?id=615846OMG 10% OFF GUYS!10% off? I think I'm getting more than that! -- http://img.imgcake.com/nio/bokbokbokpngur.pngOk everyone this is Bartz so just remember. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paratroopa1 02/01/12 3:43:00 PM #96:	Good lord, for a 3333 dollar PC that isn't even especially tricked out. I could build a more powerful PC than this for like half the price and I'm not even very knowledgeable about computers. <cite>Paratroopa1 posted [p:731886] in The Real C... [t:61812848]...</cite> <quote> Good lord, for a 3333 dollar PC that isn't even especially tricked out. I could build a more powerful PC than this for like half the price and I'm not even very knowledgeable about computers. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
paperwarior 02/01/12 3:47:00 PM #97:	Free gaming computer? I want in on that. -- The tragedy continues! <cite>paperwarior posted [p:731887] in The Real C... [t:61812848]...</cite> <quote> Free gaming computer? I want in on that. -- The tragedy continues! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dauntless Hunter 02/01/12 4:32:00 PM #98:	Yeah I don't know what is up with these PC prices. I bought a pretty good PC last fall for about $1000, and that was including the monitor and a Windows license, it could've been like $750 if I was just paying for the PC hardware. -- Something witty while mentioning SuperNiceDog. Give me a break, I'm not as clever as the Guru Champion. <cite>Dauntless Hunter posted [p:731888] in The Real C... [t:61812848]...</cite> <quote> Yeah I don't know what is up with these PC prices. I bought a pretty good PC last fall for about $1000, and that was including the monitor and a Windows license, it could've been like $750 if I was just paying for the PC hardware. -- Something witty while mentioning SuperNiceDog.Give me a break, I'm not as clever as the Guru Champion. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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