Board 8 > Girl gets prayer removed from school wall, overreactions everywhere. [Beware]

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tereziWright 01/30/12 9:06:00 AM #101:	From: Vlado \| #095 *Leebo86 posted...* If you're talking about LW, why did you say "you guys on both sides" Leebo86: I mean, it would be pretty cool if religious people just "woosh" evaporated Oh my god Vlado -- http://img.imgcake.com/1327084525516jpgra.jpg http://img.imgcake.com/1326165368699gifme.gif <cite>tereziWright posted [p:726219] in Girl gets ... [t:61800901]...</cite> <quote> From: Vlado \| #095Leebo86 posted...If you're talking about LW, why did you say "you guys on both sides"Leebo86: I mean, it would be pretty cool if religious people just "woosh" evaporatedOh my god Vlado -- http://img.imgcake.com/1327084525516jpgra.jpghttp://img.imgcake.com/1326165368699gifme.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LOLContests 01/30/12 9:11:00 AM #102:	There's a difference between student content and school content. The student is not a somewhat governmental institution so if the student created something religious as some sort of student created product like a talent show or something that's okay. The difference is that regardless of who created it, the school clearly considers this banner or whatever their own content/message. It's clearly representing the school and not the student. -- My bracket wasn't good enough to beat SuperNiceDog's in the GameFAQS Rivalry Rumble. Congrats! This is Yesmar. <cite>LOLContests posted [p:726220] in Girl gets ... [t:61800901]...</cite> <quote> There's a difference between student content and school content. The student is not a somewhat governmental institution so if the student created something religious as some sort of student created product like a talent show or something that's okay. The difference is that regardless of who created it, the school clearly considers this banner or whatever their own content/message. It's clearly representing the school and not the student. -- My bracket wasn't good enough to beat SuperNiceDog's in the GameFAQS Rivalry Rumble. Congrats!This is Yesmar. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OmarsComin 01/30/12 9:43:00 AM #103:	I'm for freedom of speech, even when it offends people. So long as everyone's allowed their freedom of speech. I don't see how they're limiting anyones freedom here. this is only a freedom of speech issue when people disagree with the complaint if a Muslim kid wrote a prayer to Allah I guarantee most of the people defending this prayer would not be defending it. which makes them hypocrites, actually. <cite>OmarsComin posted [p:726221] in Girl gets ... [t:61800901]...</cite> <quote> I'm for freedom of speech, even when it offends people. So long as everyone's allowed their freedom of speech. I don't see how they're limiting anyones freedom here.this is only a freedom of speech issue when people disagree with the complaintif a Muslim kid wrote a prayer to Allah I guarantee most of the people defending this prayer would not be defending it. which makes them hypocrites, actually. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
masterplum 01/30/12 10:02:00 AM #104:	From: OmarsComin \| #103 if a Muslim kid wrote a prayer to Allah I guarantee most of the people defending this prayer would not be defending it. Would atheists defend an atheist pledge? -- Four Civil Union Ceremonies and a Funeral just doesn't have the same ring to it - yoshifan823 http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/1508/masterplumgm3.jpg <cite>masterplum posted [p:726222] in Girl gets ... [t:61800901]...</cite> <quote> From: OmarsComin \| #103if a Muslim kid wrote a prayer to Allah I guarantee most of the people defending this prayer would not be defending it.Would atheists defend an atheist pledge? -- Four Civil Union Ceremonies and a Funeral just doesn't have the same ring to it - yoshifan823http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/1508/masterplumgm3.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OmarsComin 01/30/12 10:08:00 AM #105:	There's no such thing as an atheist pledge. Atheism is not a religion. You could have a pledge like "I will always approach new ideas critically and demand evidence for unsupported claims" but then you wouldn't be making an atheist pledge, you'd be making a science pledge. <cite>OmarsComin posted [p:726223] in Girl gets ... [t:61800901]...</cite> <quote> There's no such thing as an atheist pledge. Atheism is not a religion.You could have a pledge like "I will always approach new ideas critically and demand evidence for unsupported claims" but then you wouldn't be making an atheist pledge, you'd be making a science pledge. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
saveus_Maria 01/30/12 10:09:00 AM #106:	science is so awesome I think I'm going to write that science pledge down and start making it every day -- o ~ saveus_Maria ~ o mp ,odixi upi str yjr [tomvrdd http://i.imgur.com/rBK1h.png (~by NioraptH) <cite>saveus_Maria posted [p:726224] in Girl gets ... [t:61800901]...</cite> <quote> science is so awesomeI think I'm going to write that science pledge down and start making it every day -- o ~ saveus_Maria ~ o mp ,odixi upi str yjr [tomvrddhttp://i.imgur.com/rBK1h.png (~by NioraptH) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OmarsComin 01/30/12 10:11:00 AM #107:	god bless science <cite>OmarsComin posted [p:726225] in Girl gets ... [t:61800901]...</cite> <quote> god bless science </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gatarix 01/30/12 10:12:00 AM #108:	Now I'm imagining an eight-foot-tall poster on the school wall reading "god is a dum pink ball any way" -- You put your RESOLVE HAT back on, which conveniently is the same hat as your NORMAL HAT. {Drakeryn} <cite>Gatarix posted [p:726226] in Girl gets ... [t:61800901]...</cite> <quote> Now I'm imagining an eight-foot-tall poster on the school wall reading "god is a dum pink ball any way" -- You put your RESOLVE HAT back on, which conveniently is the same hat as your NORMAL HAT.{Drakeryn} </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SAWURFACEANDWOW 01/30/12 10:12:00 AM #109:	any atheist who is bothered by stuff like this really needs to grow up yall make us normal people look bad -- sess <cite>SAWURFACEANDWOW posted [p:726227] in Girl gets ... [t:61800901]...</cite> <quote> any atheist who is bothered by stuff like this really needs to grow upyall make us normal people look bad -- sess </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
XxSoulxX 01/30/12 10:14:00 AM #110:	god bless america -- Thinking Luigi and WAAAA > Pokemon Trainers was dumb, and Pokemon rocks. In other news, Valve is a pretty f*ing terrible company, let's be honest. <cite>XxSoulxX posted [p:726228] in Girl gets ... [t:61800901]...</cite> <quote> god bless america -- Thinking Luigi and WAAAA > Pokemon Trainers was dumb, and Pokemon rocks.In other news, Valve is a pretty f*ing terrible company, let's be honest. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OmarsComin 01/30/12 10:17:00 AM #111:	sorry sess I just love our constitution too much <cite>OmarsComin posted [p:726229] in Girl gets ... [t:61800901]...</cite> <quote> sorry sess I just love our constitution too much </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Biolizard28 01/30/12 10:22:00 AM #112:	From: OmarsComin \| #103 if a Muslim kid wrote a prayer to Allah I guarantee most of the people defending this prayer would not be defending it. which makes them hypocrites, actually. Can you actually prove this or are you talking out of your ass? -- I like how each new topic you make reveals such varied facets of your idiocy. - foolmo [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] <cite>Biolizard28 posted [p:726230] in Girl gets ... [t:61800901]...</cite> <quote> From: OmarsComin \| #103if a Muslim kid wrote a prayer to Allah I guarantee most of the people defending this prayer would not be defending it. which makes them hypocrites, actually.Can you actually prove this or are you talking out of your ass? -- I like how each new topic you make reveals such varied facets of your idiocy. - foolmo[NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
XxSoulxX 01/30/12 10:22:00 AM #113:	I want the opinions of a stereotypical religious American redneck on this matter. Fight for his religion, or fight for his country's constitution! If America was cool, they would find these people and have their quotes up on the site. -- Thinking Luigi and WAAAA > Pokemon Trainers was dumb, and Pokemon rocks. In other news, Valve is a pretty f*ing terrible company, let's be honest. <cite>XxSoulxX posted [p:726231] in Girl gets ... [t:61800901]...</cite> <quote> I want the opinions of a stereotypical religious American redneck on this matter. Fight for his religion, or fight for his country's constitution! If America was cool, they would find these people and have their quotes up on the site. -- Thinking Luigi and WAAAA > Pokemon Trainers was dumb, and Pokemon rocks.In other news, Valve is a pretty f*ing terrible company, let's be honest. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SAWURFACEANDWOW 01/30/12 10:22:00 AM #114:	lmao bob i can never judge if you are serious or not but imma just address the whole constitution s* in general here can we STOP pretending like we actually value and respect that s? every atheist i know, myself included, does not give two ss about the sanctity of the american value system. atheists are some of the least patriotic people on the planet, and are typically proud of that fact. the only time they truly give a crap about the constitution or america is when it is convenient to them. its selfish, and its kinda annoying. maintaining separation of church and state is not the endgame w/ stuff like this, its the means to an end which is simply a false sense of accomplishment of "showing them religulous people who is right hahaha" grow up, be decent people and stop getting so womanly about people's prayers and all that other stupid stuff <cite>SAWURFACEANDWOW posted [p:726232] in Girl gets ... [t:61800901]...</cite> <quote> lmao bob i can never judge if you are serious or not but imma just address the whole constitution s* in general herecan we STOP pretending like we actually value and respect that s*? every atheist i know, myself included, does not give two s*s about the sanctity of the american value system. atheists are some of the least patriotic people on the planet, and are typically proud of that fact. the only time they truly give a crap about the constitution or america is when it is convenient to them. its selfish, and its kinda annoying. maintaining separation of church and state is not the endgame w/ stuff like this, its the means to an end which is simply a false sense of accomplishment of "showing them religulous people who is right hahaha"grow up, be decent people and stop getting so womanly about people's prayers and all that other stupid stuff </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Biolizard28 01/30/12 10:23:00 AM #115:	Sess, oh my SCIENCE (for my atheist friends out there) it's been too long. This board needs you now more than ever. -- I like how each new topic you make reveals such varied facets of your idiocy. - foolmo [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] <cite>Biolizard28 posted [p:726233] in Girl gets ... [t:61800901]...</cite> <quote> Sess, oh my SCIENCE (for my atheist friends out there) it's been too long.This board needs you now more than ever. -- I like how each new topic you make reveals such varied facets of your idiocy. - foolmo[NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolm0ron 01/30/12 10:23:00 AM #116:	From: OmarsComin \| #105 Atheism is not a religion. This is what atheists actually believe -- _foolmo_ 'but that statement is something only an Aspergers patient would say' - UltimaterializerX <cite>foolm0ron posted [p:726234] in Girl gets ... [t:61800901]...</cite> <quote> From: OmarsComin \| #105Atheism is not a religion.This is what atheists actually believe -- _foolmo_'but that statement is something only an Aspergers patient would say' - UltimaterializerX </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Robazoid 01/30/12 10:23:00 AM #117:	*Biolizard28 posted...* From: OmarsComin \| #103 if a Muslim kid wrote a prayer to Allah I guarantee most of the people defending this prayer would not be defending it. which makes them hypocrites, actually. Can you actually prove this or are you talking out of your ass? Proof: the fact that roughly 50% of America thinks Obama is a secret Muslim and that this fact somehow makes him a bad President -- R.O.B.A.Z.O.I.D <cite>Robazoid posted [p:726235] in Girl gets ... [t:61800901]...</cite> <quote> Biolizard28 posted...From: OmarsComin \| #103if a Muslim kid wrote a prayer to Allah I guarantee most of the people defending this prayer would not be defending it. which makes them hypocrites, actually.Can you actually prove this or are you talking out of your ass?Proof: the fact that roughly 50% of America thinks Obama is a secret Muslim and that this fact somehow makes him a bad President -- R.O.B.A.Z.O.I.D </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OmarsComin 01/30/12 10:23:00 AM #118:	I wasn't being serious sess just so you know <cite>OmarsComin posted [p:726236] in Girl gets ... [t:61800901]...</cite> <quote> I wasn't being serious sess just so you know </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolm0ron 01/30/12 10:23:00 AM #119:	From: OmarsComin \| #111 sorry sess I just love our constitution too much So are you for the free speech of religious people or against? -- _foolmo_ 'Oh please, if foolmo made that analogy you'd think it was picture perfect' - Biolizard28 <cite>foolm0ron posted [p:726237] in Girl gets ... [t:61800901]...</cite> <quote> From: OmarsComin \| #111sorry sess I just love our constitution too muchSo are you for the free speech of religious people or against? -- _foolmo_'Oh please, if foolmo made that analogy you'd think it was picture perfect' - Biolizard28 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Liquid Wind 01/30/12 10:24:00 AM #120:	I want the opinions of a stereotypical religious American redneck on this matter. Fight for his religion, or fight for his country's constitution! most of the ultra patriotic religious zealot redneck types actually have very little care for the constitution, remember these are the people who put bush in office twice. <cite>Liquid Wind posted [p:726238] in Girl gets ... [t:61800901]...</cite> <quote> I want the opinions of a stereotypical religious American redneck on this matter. Fight for his religion, or fight for his country's constitution! most of the ultra patriotic religious zealot redneck types actually have very little care for the constitution, remember these are the people who put bush in office twice. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GaryOak151 01/30/12 10:25:00 AM #121:	atheism is a religion like bald is a hair color -- Warning_Crazy Winner of Board 8 Big Brother! i may be running for senatorship (thanks nio) but i'm no SUPERNICEDOG <cite>GaryOak151 posted [p:726239] in Girl gets ... [t:61800901]...</cite> <quote> atheism is a religion like bald is a hair color -- Warning_Crazy Winner of Board 8 Big Brother! i may be running for senatorship (thanks nio) but i'm no SUPERNICEDOG </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SAWURFACEANDWOW 01/30/12 10:25:00 AM #122:	*OmarsComin posted...* I wasn't being serious sess just so you know yeah i didnt think so, but i just had to get that off my chest ya know -- sess <cite>SAWURFACEANDWOW posted [p:726240] in Girl gets ... [t:61800901]...</cite> <quote> OmarsComin posted...I wasn't being serious sess just so you knowyeah i didnt think so, but i just had to get that off my chest ya know -- sess </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OmarsComin 01/30/12 10:33:00 AM #123:	So are you for the free speech of religious people or against? I think it's fine for her to be upset but I don't actually care. if she wants to crusade to get a religious poster taken down that's cool but it strikes me as something only teenagers with a lot of time on their hands would actually do. I think the burden of proof for limiting speech should be pretty steep. maybe she's technically right but I think most of us aren't so easily offended that it actually matters. I think the people flipping out and refusing to deliver flowers/calling her evil and all that are pretty silly too though. <cite>OmarsComin posted [p:726241] in Girl gets ... [t:61800901]...</cite> <quote> So are you for the free speech of religious people or against?I think it's fine for her to be upset but I don't actually care. if she wants to crusade to get a religious poster taken down that's cool but it strikes me as something only teenagers with a lot of time on their hands would actually do.I think the burden of proof for limiting speech should be pretty steep. maybe she's technically right but I think most of us aren't so easily offended that it actually matters.I think the people flipping out and refusing to deliver flowers/calling her evil and all that are pretty silly too though. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Biolizard28 01/30/12 10:35:00 AM #124:	From: GaryOak151 \| #121 atheism is a religion like bald is a hair color Not even closes. Agnosticism is as close to "non-religion" as you can get, because there is no explicit belief or disbelief in any higher power, or other traditionally religious claims. It is pretty much the "whatever, dude" of religious discussion. Agnosticism is the complete absence of faith, to the point it's more of a stance than a theism. Atheism is all about how a deity cannot exist and anyone who believes so is a pitiable soul wasting their life believing in giant bearded wizards or some crap. It's far more venomous towards religious groups because they don't believe what they believe and they feel constantly oppressed by the religious imagery being shoved down their throats. Sound familiar? -- I like how each new topic you make reveals such varied facets of your idiocy. - foolmo [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] <cite>Biolizard28 posted [p:726242] in Girl gets ... [t:61800901]...</cite> <quote> From: GaryOak151 \| #121atheism is a religion like bald is a hair colorNot even closes.Agnosticism is as close to "non-religion" as you can get, because there is no explicit belief or disbelief in any higher power, or other traditionally religious claims. It is pretty much the "whatever, dude" of religious discussion. Agnosticism is the complete absence of faith, to the point it's more of a stance than a theism.Atheism is all about how a deity cannot exist and anyone who believes so is a pitiable soul wasting their life believing in giant bearded wizards or some crap. It's far more venomous towards religious groups because they don't believe what they believe and they feel constantly oppressed by the religious imagery being shoved down their throats.Sound familiar? -- I like how each new topic you make reveals such varied facets of your idiocy. - foolmo[NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Leebo86 01/30/12 10:36:00 AM #125:	From: GaryOak151 \| #121 atheism is a religion like bald is a hair color and not collecting stamps is a hobby -- Connecticut Huskies <cite>Leebo86 posted [p:726243] in Girl gets ... [t:61800901]...</cite> <quote> From: GaryOak151 \| #121atheism is a religion like bald is a hair colorand not collecting stamps is a hobby -- Connecticut Huskies </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
XxSoulxX 01/30/12 10:37:00 AM #126:	Atheism is all about how a deity cannot exist and anyone who believes so is a pitiable soul wasting their life believing in giant bearded wizards or some crap. It's far more venomous towards religious groups because they don't believe what they believe and they feel constantly oppressed by the religious imagery being shoved down their throats. That sounds like a pretty biased view on atheism to me. -- Thinking Luigi and WAAAA > Pokemon Trainers was dumb, and Pokemon rocks. In other news, Valve is a pretty f*ing terrible company, let's be honest. <cite>XxSoulxX posted [p:726244] in Girl gets ... [t:61800901]...</cite> <quote> Atheism is all about how a deity cannot exist and anyone who believes so is a pitiable soul wasting their life believing in giant bearded wizards or some crap. It's far more venomous towards religious groups because they don't believe what they believe and they feel constantly oppressed by the religious imagery being shoved down their throats.That sounds like a pretty biased view on atheism to me. -- Thinking Luigi and WAAAA > Pokemon Trainers was dumb, and Pokemon rocks.In other news, Valve is a pretty f*ing terrible company, let's be honest. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
greengravy294 01/30/12 10:37:00 AM #127:	This is why atheists are awful people. This coming from someone who isn't religious at all. -- Jack Edwards, deliver us from evil, amen. <cite>greengravy294 posted [p:726245] in Girl gets ... [t:61800901]...</cite> <quote> This is why atheists are awful people.This coming from someone who isn't religious at all. -- Jack Edwards, deliver us from evil, amen. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Leebo86 01/30/12 10:37:00 AM #128:	From: Biolizard28 \| #124 Not even closes. Agnosticism is as close to "non-religion" as you can get, because there is no explicit belief or disbelief in any higher power, or other traditionally religious claims. It is pretty much the "whatever, dude" of religious discussion. Agnosticism is the complete absence of faith, to the point it's more of a stance than a theism. Atheism is all about how a deity cannot exist and anyone who believes so is a pitiable soul wasting their life believing in giant bearded wizards or some crap. It's far more venomous towards religious groups because they don't believe what they believe and they feel constantly oppressed by the religious imagery being shoved down their throats. Sound familiar? Atheism and agnosticism aren't mutually exclusive. You could be agnostic-atheist or agnostic-theist. -- Connecticut Huskies <cite>Leebo86 posted [p:726246] in Girl gets ... [t:61800901]...</cite> <quote> From: Biolizard28 \| #124Not even closes.Agnosticism is as close to "non-religion" as you can get, because there is no explicit belief or disbelief in any higher power, or other traditionally religious claims. It is pretty much the "whatever, dude" of religious discussion. Agnosticism is the complete absence of faith, to the point it's more of a stance than a theism.Atheism is all about how a deity cannot exist and anyone who believes so is a pitiable soul wasting their life believing in giant bearded wizards or some crap. It's far more venomous towards religious groups because they don't believe what they believe and they feel constantly oppressed by the religious imagery being shoved down their throats.Sound familiar?Atheism and agnosticism aren't mutually exclusive.You could be agnostic-atheist or agnostic-theist. -- Connecticut Huskies </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SlymDayspring 01/30/12 10:39:00 AM #129:	Biolizard, you have literally no idea what agnosticism or atheism are. agnosticism: I cannot know atheism: I do not believe you can be an agnostic theist or an agnostic atheist. you are using the gnostic atheist as an example of all atheists. i forgive your ignorance. -- I'm "kind of a big deal". http://img.imgcake.com/cyclo/Cyclopngegpngre.png <cite>SlymDayspring posted [p:726247] in Girl gets ... [t:61800901]...</cite> <quote> Biolizard, you have literally no idea what agnosticism or atheism are. agnosticism: I cannot know atheism: I do not believeyou can be an agnostic theist or an agnostic atheist. you are using the gnostic atheist as an example of all atheists.i forgive your ignorance. -- I'm "kind of a big deal".http://img.imgcake.com/cyclo/Cyclopngegpngre.png </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pjbasis 01/30/12 10:40:00 AM #130:	Yeah pretty sure you're wrong about that atheism definition bio. -- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/pjbasis.png SuperNiceDog - 1, pjbasis - 0 <cite>pjbasis posted [p:726248] in Girl gets ... [t:61800901]...</cite> <quote> Yeah pretty sure you're wrong about that atheism definition bio. -- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/pjbasis.png SuperNiceDog - 1, pjbasis - 0 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SAWURFACEANDWOW 01/30/12 10:41:00 AM #131:	atheism and agnosticism become a religion when you start making those facts crucial parts of your life. when you go around broadcasting your world view, even if its "i dont know lol", then it enters the realm of religiousness. if you just live your life as an atheist/agnostic and dont really focus on it the way others do, then it doesnt cross that line. this is obviously not how more mainstream religions like christianity are defined before some wiseass brilliant deduces that contradiction and feels the need to point it out. its just my personal view on the whole 'is it religion' debate <cite>SAWURFACEANDWOW posted [p:726249] in Girl gets ... [t:61800901]...</cite> <quote> atheism and agnosticism become a religion when you start making those facts crucial parts of your life. when you go around broadcasting your world view, even if its "i dont know lol", then it enters the realm of religiousness. if you just live your life as an atheist/agnostic and dont really focus on it the way others do, then it doesnt cross that line. this is obviously not how more mainstream religions like christianity are defined before some wiseass brilliant deduces that contradiction and feels the need to point it out. its just my personal view on the whole 'is it religion' debate </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Liquid Wind 01/30/12 10:42:00 AM #132:	Agnosticism is as close to "non-religion" as you can get, because there is no explicit belief or disbelief in any higher power, or other traditionally religious claims. It is pretty much the "whatever, dude" of religious discussion. Agnosticism is the complete absence of faith, to the point it's more of a stance than a theism. Atheism is all about how a deity cannot exist and anyone who believes so is a pitiable soul wasting their life believing in giant bearded wizards or some crap. It's far more venomous towards religious groups because they don't believe what they believe and they feel constantly oppressed by the religious imagery being shoved down their throats maybe I'm the exception but I'm an agnostic and I seem to be the most venomous towards religion on this board. while I do accept the possibility of a higher power, organized religion as it has been fabricated by man is not only a waste of life but is actively hindering our progress as a species in virtually every way imaginable. technologically, socially, politically, culturally, you name it, religion has attached itself to it like a parasite and held it back. if there is a divine being they must be utterly embarrassed over the horrible things that have been done on their behalf. <cite>Liquid Wind posted [p:726250] in Girl gets ... [t:61800901]...</cite> <quote> Agnosticism is as close to "non-religion" as you can get, because there is no explicit belief or disbelief in any higher power, or other traditionally religious claims. It is pretty much the "whatever, dude" of religious discussion. Agnosticism is the complete absence of faith, to the point it's more of a stance than a theism.Atheism is all about how a deity cannot exist and anyone who believes so is a pitiable soul wasting their life believing in giant bearded wizards or some crap. It's far more venomous towards religious groups because they don't believe what they believe and they feel constantly oppressed by the religious imagery being shoved down their throatsmaybe I'm the exception but I'm an agnostic and I seem to be the most venomous towards religion on this board. while I do accept the possibility of a higher power, organized religion as it has been fabricated by man is not only a waste of life but is actively hindering our progress as a species in virtually every way imaginable. technologically, socially, politically, culturally, you name it, religion has attached itself to it like a parasite and held it back. if there is a divine being they must be utterly embarrassed over the horrible things that have been done on their behalf. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
XxSoulxX 01/30/12 10:42:00 AM #133:	I am not anti-God. I am anti-Religion. -- Thinking Luigi and WAAAA > Pokemon Trainers was dumb, and Pokemon rocks. In other news, Valve is a pretty f*ing terrible company, let's be honest. <cite>XxSoulxX posted [p:726251] in Girl gets ... [t:61800901]...</cite> <quote> I am not anti-God. I am anti-Religion. -- Thinking Luigi and WAAAA > Pokemon Trainers was dumb, and Pokemon rocks.In other news, Valve is a pretty f*ing terrible company, let's be honest. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BBallman7 01/30/12 10:43:00 AM #134:	*Cloud and Squall posted...* Yes, the same EIGHT FOOT PRAYER most people didn't even remember.\ Must've been very prominently displayed I guess. Why does this matter? If the school hung up swastikas in very obscure places would that be ok? -- TimJab you a pimp boi <cite>BBallman7 posted [p:726252] in Girl gets ... [t:61800901]...</cite> <quote> Cloud and Squall posted...Yes, the same EIGHT FOOT PRAYER most people didn't even remember.\Must've been very prominently displayed I guess.Why does this matter? If the school hung up swastikas in very obscure places would that be ok? -- TimJab you a pimp boi </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OmarsComin 01/30/12 10:43:00 AM #135:	Atheism is all about how a deity cannot exist and anyone who believes so is a pitiable soul wasting their life believing in giant bearded wizards or some crap. It's far more venomous towards religious groups because they don't believe what they believe and they feel constantly oppressed by the religious imagery being shoved down their throats. atheism isn't about any of that. there's a specific subgroup like that but they're usually angry people anyway from what I've seen. there is no good descriptor for an atheist because the only thing it identifies is whether you believe there's a god or not. "I don't believe in a god and I don't care if anyone else does" describes most I've interacted with. Not surprisingly, they're laid back on most other stuff too. They don't make atheism their personal identity or feel the need to publicly crusade against religion. Of course I've met people like you described too. Dudes who randomly interject into your conversation with "there is no God, actually" or whatever. Those dudes suck. They're a loud minority AFAIK. <cite>OmarsComin posted [p:726253] in Girl gets ... [t:61800901]...</cite> <quote> Atheism is all about how a deity cannot exist and anyone who believes so is a pitiable soul wasting their life believing in giant bearded wizards or some crap. It's far more venomous towards religious groups because they don't believe what they believe and they feel constantly oppressed by the religious imagery being shoved down their throats.atheism isn't about any of that. there's a specific subgroup like that but they're usually angry people anyway from what I've seen. there is no good descriptor for an atheist because the only thing it identifies is whether you believe there's a god or not."I don't believe in a god and I don't care if anyone else does" describes most I've interacted with. Not surprisingly, they're laid back on most other stuff too. They don't make atheism their personal identity or feel the need to publicly crusade against religion.Of course I've met people like you described too. Dudes who randomly interject into your conversation with "there is no God, actually" or whatever. Those dudes suck. They're a loud minority AFAIK. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SAWURFACEANDWOW 01/30/12 10:44:00 AM #136:	*Liquid Wind posted...* organized religion as it has been fabricated by man is not only a waste of life but is actively hindering our progress as a species in virtually every way imaginable. technologically, socially, politically, culturally, you name it, religion has attached itself to it like a parasite and held it back. if there is a divine being they must be utterly embarrassed over the horrible things that have been done on their behalf. religion has existed for millenia before i was born and i can still do cocaine and suck on t* our species is doing just fine yo -- sess <cite>SAWURFACEANDWOW posted [p:726254] in Girl gets ... [t:61800901]...</cite> <quote> Liquid Wind posted...organized religion as it has been fabricated by man is not only a waste of life but is actively hindering our progress as a species in virtually every way imaginable. technologically, socially, politically, culturally, you name it, religion has attached itself to it like a parasite and held it back. if there is a divine being they must be utterly embarrassed over the horrible things that have been done on their behalf.religion has existed for millenia before i was born and i can still do cocaine and suck on t*our species is doing just fine yo -- sess </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Biolizard28 01/30/12 10:48:00 AM #137:	Uh oh, the atheist defense force has arrived. Time to scram. As science as my witness, you haven't seen the last of me. -- I like how each new topic you make reveals such varied facets of your idiocy. - foolmo Now this is entertainment! <cite>Biolizard28 posted [p:726255] in Girl gets ... [t:61800901]...</cite> <quote> Uh oh, the atheist defense force has arrived. Time to scram.As science as my witness, you haven't seen the last of me. -- I like how each new topic you make reveals such varied facets of your idiocy. - foolmoNow this is entertainment! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Liquid Wind 01/30/12 10:49:00 AM #138:	religion has existed for millenia before i was born and i can still suck on t* you're going to hell if you aren't married yo and even then it better be purely for procreation! <cite>Liquid Wind posted [p:726256] in Girl gets ... [t:61800901]...</cite> <quote> religion has existed for millenia before i was born and i can still suck on t*you're going to hell if you aren't married yoand even then it better be purely for procreation! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Leebo86 01/30/12 10:49:00 AM #139:	I know all of the responses to what you said were so outrageously unreasonable. -- Connecticut Huskies <cite>Leebo86 posted [p:726257] in Girl gets ... [t:61800901]...</cite> <quote> I know all of the responses to what you said were so outrageously unreasonable. -- Connecticut Huskies </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Robazoid 01/30/12 10:50:00 AM #140:	Post things verifiably wrong about atheism at best Get called out on it Pull victim card and be passive-aggressive while running away -- R.O.B.A.Z.O.I.D <cite>Robazoid posted [p:726258] in Girl gets ... [t:61800901]...</cite> <quote> Post things verifiably wrong about atheism at bestGet called out on itPull victim card and be passive-aggressive while running away -- R.O.B.A.Z.O.I.D </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SAWURFACEANDWOW 01/30/12 10:51:00 AM #141:	lets be real about hell for a second the hottest girls will be there the best party hosts and organizers will be there the best alcohol/drug minds will be there it is going to be the best party in history <cite>SAWURFACEANDWOW posted [p:726259] in Girl gets ... [t:61800901]...</cite> <quote> lets be real about hell for a secondthe hottest girls will be therethe best party hosts and organizers will be therethe best alcohol/drug minds will be thereit is going to be the best party in history </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SAWURFACEANDWOW 01/30/12 10:52:00 AM #142:	is that....is that the mysterious diozabor... i havent seen you post in years LOL -- sess <cite>SAWURFACEANDWOW posted [p:726260] in Girl gets ... [t:61800901]...</cite> <quote> is that....is that the mysterious diozabor...i havent seen you post in years LOL -- sess </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Liquid Wind 01/30/12 10:57:00 AM #143:	*Robazoid posted...* Post things verifiably wrong about atheism at best Get called out on it Pull victim card and be passive-aggressive while running away this isn't even really an atheism thing, this is just what bio does everywhere <cite>Liquid Wind posted [p:726261] in Girl gets ... [t:61800901]...</cite> <quote> Robazoid posted...Post things verifiably wrong about atheism at bestGet called out on itPull victim card and be passive-aggressive while running awaythis isn't even really an atheism thing, this is just what bio does everywhere </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZX_Lucian 01/30/12 11:02:00 AM #144:	From: Biolizard28 \| #001 http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46160046/ns/us_news-the_new_york_times/t/atheist-teen-forces-school-remove-prayer-wall-after-years/#.Tyaa_lxrOTn I don't know how thin skinned you have to be to have what amounts to a motto bother you so much, but I also don't get why you'd threaten a person over... what amounts to a motto. It's like two different types of witch hunts, it's ridiculous. What happened to freedom of religion? Lack of religion is a religion...right? >_> -- ...But can he/she/it/they see why kids love Cinnamon Toast Crunch? http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/2233/landmasters.jpg <cite>ZX_Lucian posted [p:726262] in Girl gets ... [t:61800901]...</cite> <quote> From: Biolizard28 \| #001http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46160046/ns/us_news-the_new_york_times/t/atheist-teen-forces-school-remove-prayer-wall-after-years/#.Tyaa_lxrOTnI don't know how thin skinned you have to be to have what amounts to a motto bother you so much, but I also don't get why you'd threaten a person over... what amounts to a motto.It's like two different types of witch hunts, it's ridiculous.What happened to freedom of religion?Lack of religion is a religion...right? >_> -- ...But can he/she/it/they see why kids love Cinnamon Toast Crunch?http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/2233/landmasters.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VincentLauw 01/30/12 11:32:00 AM #145:	From: Liquid Wind \| #143 *Robazoid posted...* Post things verifiably wrong about atheism at best Get called out on it Pull victim card and be passive-aggressive while running away this isn't even really an atheism thing, this is just what bio does everywhere ^ ding -- http://img.imgcake.com/tyler4gifyj.gif <cite>VincentLauw posted [p:726263] in Girl gets ... [t:61800901]...</cite> <quote> From: Liquid Wind \| #143Robazoid posted...Post things verifiably wrong about atheism at bestGet called out on itPull victim card and be passive-aggressive while running awaythis isn't even really an atheism thing, this is just what bio does everywhere^ ding -- http://img.imgcake.com/tyler4gifyj.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WalrusJump 01/30/12 11:39:00 AM #146:	spirit of the law, not the letter. the prayer is more of a mission statement than a religious statement. it should have stayed. that girl is too pressed. -- SuperNiceDog shoots the lights out <cite>WalrusJump posted [p:726264] in Girl gets ... [t:61800901]...</cite> <quote> spirit of the law, not the letter.the prayer is more of a mission statement than a religious statement. it should have stayed.that girl is too pressed. -- SuperNiceDog shoots the lights out </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vlado 01/30/12 11:39:00 AM #147:	Let me try to explain it... The girl is in the wrong because the message does not bother anyone. It's much more of a message about values and how students can be better people than a "prayer." Remove "To our heavenly father" and it's nothing religious whatsoever. The girl is apparently a raging atheist like the ones most of us already agreed suck, so she decided to ruin it for all the other kids and get her 15 minutes of glory by getting this removed. The "I'm defending the constitution" excuse is laughable. I mean, really? The judge is also in the wrong because, especially in a case like this where no harm whatsoever is done and the "prayer" is a nice school tradition that most students like or are at least okay with, the SPIRIT of the law should be followed, not the letter. The message is good and valuable as it is, and it's for the better of society for it to stay. More harm is done than good by removing a message like that. What would have happened if the request of the girl was denied? ...Nothing. She might've complained and the left-leaning media might've made an issue out of this, but certainly nothing NEARLY as bad (for all parties involved) as this would've happened. What happened now? The girl has to be escorted by freaking police to school, she's denied service, a ton of people in her town hate her... And many people are offended by the message being removed. And the school loses a good message that can be a nice inspiration to students, religious or not. Do people defending the judge's decision seriously not see all this? -- If you like Blitzball, try Captain Tsubasa II (in English) for NES! Top games: http://unikgamer.com/users/vlado-309.html <cite>Vlado posted [p:726265] in Girl gets ... [t:61800901]...</cite> <quote> Let me try to explain it...The girl is in the wrong because the message does not bother anyone. It's much more of a message about values and how students can be better people than a "prayer." Remove "To our heavenly father" and it's nothing religious whatsoever. The girl is apparently a raging atheist like the ones most of us already agreed suck, so she decided to ruin it for all the other kids and get her 15 minutes of glory by getting this removed.The "I'm defending the constitution" excuse is laughable. I mean, really? The judge is also in the wrong because, especially in a case like this where no harm whatsoever is done and the "prayer" is a nice school tradition that most students like or are at least okay with, the SPIRIT of the law should be followed, not the letter. The message is good and valuable as it is, and it's for the better of society for it to stay. More harm is done than good by removing a message like that.What would have happened if the request of the girl was denied? ...Nothing. She might've complained and the left-leaning media might've made an issue out of this, but certainly nothing NEARLY as bad (for all parties involved) as this would've happened.What happened now? The girl has to be escorted by freaking police to school, she's denied service, a ton of people in her town hate her... And many people are offended by the message being removed. And the school loses a good message that can be a nice inspiration to students, religious or not.Do people defending the judge's decision seriously not see all this? -- If you like Blitzball, try Captain Tsubasa II (in English) for NES!Top games: http://unikgamer.com/users/vlado-309.html </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Leebo86 01/30/12 11:40:00 AM #148:	The backlash against her shouldn't be a factor in the decision at all. -- Connecticut Huskies <cite>Leebo86 posted [p:726266] in Girl gets ... [t:61800901]...</cite> <quote> The backlash against her shouldn't be a factor in the decision at all. -- Connecticut Huskies </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
XIII_rocks 01/30/12 11:41:00 AM #149:	Girl is a cranked b** Overreactions are lol-worthy and pathetic both sides are in the wrong here Haven't read the topic though. -- Official Board 8 ~Trendstter~ <cite>XIII_rocks posted [p:726267] in Girl gets ... [t:61800901]...</cite> <quote> Girl is a cranked b**Overreactions are lol-worthy and patheticboth sides are in the wrong hereHaven't read the topic though. -- Official Board 8 ~Trendstter~ </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vlado 01/30/12 11:43:00 AM #150:	Of course it should be. Just like, for instance, when you toss a small animal in a lion's cage, you know it'll get killed. When you're a judge and it's clear your decision would not benefit society one bit (quite the opposite), you're a damn bad judge if you make it regardless. -- If you like Blitzball, try Captain Tsubasa II (in English) for NES! Top games: http://unikgamer.com/users/vlado-309.html <cite>Vlado posted [p:726268] in Girl gets ... [t:61800901]...</cite> <quote> Of course it should be. Just like, for instance, when you toss a small animal in a lion's cage, you know it'll get killed. When you're a judge and it's clear your decision would not benefit society one bit (quite the opposite), you're a damn bad judge if you make it regardless. -- If you like Blitzball, try Captain Tsubasa II (in English) for NES!Top games: http://unikgamer.com/users/vlado-309.html </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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