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The Mana Sword
01/12/12 12:33:00 PM
#1:


Time for another exciting season of tennis topics starring myself, Anri, voltch and uh...other people. carv usually shows up for the Australian Open, I think.

Anyway, the draw is to be released at 10am in Australia, which is about 2 and a half hours from now, I think. The big story this year is that instead of being well-rested, everyone's injured going into the first major of the year! How exciting. Time for the new talent to step it up.

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The Mana Sword
01/12/12 4:00:00 PM
#2:


Draw is out, time for Ace Analysis.

Division 1
1 N Djokovic
P Lorenzi

S Giraldo
Q

WC T Ito
P Starace

N Mahut
29 R Štepánek

23 M Raonic
F Volandri

L Rosol
P Petzschner

C-M Stebe
L Hewitt

R Haase
15 A Roddick

Welp, at least Roddick didn't get stuck in Federer's division. The top half of this division seems pretty clear cut, I don't see anyone here that can really pose a threat to Djokovic unless he's just way, way off. The bottom half is pretty interesting. A potential second round between Hewitt and Roddick, then Raonic in the third. Raonic is coming off a nice win in one of the warm-up tournaments, and seems poised to have a breakthrough year, while it's tough to have much faith in Hewitt or Roddick these days.

Division 1: Djokovic > Raonic


Division 2

9 J Tipsarevic
D Tursunov

Q
WC J Duckworth

M Youzhny
Q

A Seppi
17 R Gasquet

27 JI Chela
M Russell

I Kunitsyn
P Andújar

M Bachinger
R Sweeting

R Machado
5 D Ferrer

Man is this division weak. Ferrer is probably the only one who can actually win this division, with Tipsarevic and Gasquet having an outside shot. I suppose Youzhny could have a real longshot at it. Tipsarevic had a pretty good tail end of the year last year, and had a decent start this year, losing to Raonic in the finals of his warmup, so I'll give him the edge over Gasquet and Youzhny. I don't really see any of them beating Ferrer, though.

Division 2: Ferrer > Tipsarevic

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01/12/12 4:03:00 PM
#3:


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The Mana Sword
01/12/12 4:09:00 PM
#4:


Division 3

4 A Murray
R Harrison

X Malisse
É Roger-Vasselin

M Llodra
E Gulbis

32 A Bogomolov, Jr.
D Gimeno-Traver

19 V Troicki
JC Ferrero

G García-López
M Kukushkin

T Bellucci
D Sela

WC M Matosevic
14 G Monfils

Murray once again gets a pretty easy division. People will hype up Harrison as a cute first round upset pick, but he's probably even more of a headcase than Murray is, and not as good at tennis. Murray might lose a set in that match, but that's about it. Bottom half should probably go to Monfils, with hopefully a great rematch in round 3 against Ferrero, and I think I like Ferrero to win that one again as well. Still, Murray should be safe from danger until the quarterfinals.

Division 3: Murray > Ferrero


The rest isn't filled out on Wikipedia yet and I don't like the drawsheet from the official site so more later.

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Paratroopa1
01/12/12 4:10:00 PM
#5:


I was confused when I saw "Q" because I realized later it was for qualifiers but at first I thought Q from Star Trek was playing in the Australian Open.
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The Mana Sword
01/12/12 4:11:00 PM
#6:


Would certainly make Divisions 2 & 3 more interesting.

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Princess Anri
01/12/12 4:15:00 PM
#7:


2012 is going to be Murray's year.

I'm no longer a Nadal supporter.

Andy Murray is my new favorite player/person.

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The Mana Sword
01/12/12 4:15:00 PM
#8:


Time to skip to 2013.

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Princess Anri
01/12/12 4:18:00 PM
#9:


What an awful year it would be if Murray had a Djokovicish rise to invincibility.

I'm pretty sure that would be enough to keep me away from tennis altogether.

But he'd have to win a set in a major final and he never will so we're all safe.

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The Mana Sword
01/12/12 4:38:00 PM
#10:


Division 4

12 G Simon
Q TBD

J Benneteau
K Beck

J Sousa
M Ebden

S Robert
24 K Nishikori

26 M Granollers
WC J Levine

F Gil
I Dodig

Q TBD
R Mello

D Istomin
6 J-W Tsonga

This division probably belongs to the French. I'm not that huge on Simon, really, but I don't think Nishikori is ready to step it up at a Slam (and don't think he ever will be, Brad Gilbert be damned). Bottom half is just a big pile of whatever + Tsonga. Hopefully Tsonga stays healthy, because if he does I think it could be his year.

Division 4: Tsonga > Simon

so cookie cutter

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Ayvuir
01/12/12 4:56:00 PM
#11:


Time for better analysis. I have highlighted the winners

Division 1

1 N Djokovic
P Lorenzi

Djokovic won 48 out of 49 matches last year (I think), he is fairly unstoppable right now. I dont know who this Lorenzi is, but he'll lose in straight sets in probably an hour and a half max.

S Giraldo
Q

Dont know who the qualifier will be but I've seen Giraldo play before and he can handle himself pretty well, im sure whatever he'll come up against he can beat.

WC T Ito
P Starace

I have never heard of Ito... So this could be proved wrong. Starace really isn't that great anymore/ever was, but he usually gets through the first round...

N Mahut
29 R Štepánek

Going for an upset here just because I don't really rate Stepanek and Mahut is one of the better unseeded players by far. Hasn't been playing THAT great of late, but his playing style has the potential to upset Stepanek.

23 M Raonic
F Volandri

Raonic is pretty damn good. Volandri kind of isn't.

L Rosol
P Petzschner

Never heard of Rosol. Petzshcner is a solid player and should win this with ease.

C-M Stebe
L Hewitt

Never heard of Stebe. Hewitt is on home turf, and although he has the tendency to crash and burn, this match SHOULD be a walk in the park, especially with the crowd support.

R Haase
15 A Roddick

This will be a tough match for Roddick as Haase is by no means a pushover. As long as his serve is going well for ihm though, he SHOULD win this. Probably in 4 sets.


Overall

Djokoic wins the division... Probably over the winner of Hewitt/Roddick.

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Ayvuir
01/12/12 5:03:00 PM
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Division 2

9 J Tipsarevic
D Tursunov

I LOVE Tipsarevic. Really good player and on good form currently. Tursunov is no pushover though and I can see it going to 5 sets, but Tipsy will win.

Q
WC J Duckworth

No idea who this guy is, but what a GREAT name.

M Youzhny
Q

Youzhny is class. Qualifier wont have a chance.

A Seppi
17 R Gasquet

Definately not in his prime anymore is old Richard Gasquet, but should disperse of Seppi easily enough.

27 JI Chela
M Russell

Not a great hard court player is Chela, so there could be a potential upset here... If I knew who Russell was.

I Kunitsyn
P Andújar

Kunitsyn is a solid player. Other guy sounds Spanish/South American maybe? Meaning hard court probably isn't his best surface.

M Bachinger
R Sweeting

Only vaguely heard of Sweeting... So I'll go with him

R Machado
5 D Ferrer

David Ferrer isn't known for his awesome hard court play, but he should win this first round match up with ease.

Overall

Tipsarevic should take it, because I don't believe Ferrer is stronger than him on a hard court surface. I'm actually gonna go out on a limb and say Tipsarevic > Kunitsyn. But man is this part of the draw weak.

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most_games_r_ok
01/12/12 5:07:00 PM
#13:


Murray gonna win it all

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Ayvuir
01/12/12 5:16:00 PM
#14:


Division 3

4 A Murray
R Harrison

A new coach and supposedly a renewed vigor for the game, Murray is one to watch this tournament. All he needs is to be injury free, to keep his cool, and to somehow beat Djokovic. Then he'll probably lose in the final...

X Malisse
É Roger-Vasselin

Xavier Malisse is getting on a bit these days, but he can still produce some good tennis. I dont really know about Roger-Vasselin so i'll say Malisse takes it.

M Llodra
E Gulbis

This is a VERY interesting match up, and I'd say both are very evenly matched. I'll say Llodra but to be honest I don't have a clue. I'll say 5 sets though.

32 A Bogomolov, Jr.
D Gimeno-Traver

A hit and miss player from Russia. Has improved a lot of late though and is a current career high ranking. Should be an easy first round match for him.

19 V Troicki
JC Ferrero

As much as I love Juan Carlose Ferrero, he is past it now. Troicki SHOULD win this, but Ferrero does occasionly pop up with a performance that rolls back the years.

G García-López
M Kukushkin

Kukushkin has only played in the Australian Open once before and lost in the 1st Round. Garcia Lopez reached the 3rd Round last year and should win this comfortably.

T Bellucci
D Sela

Don't know much about either of these two personally, but I have seen Sela play before and he looks pretty good... So yeh.

WC M Matosevic
14 G Monfils

Monfils wins easily. Straight Sets.


Overall

Murray/Monfils in the finals... I'll have to say Murray, but it'll be a damn good game.

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01/12/12 7:46:00 PM
#15:


From: Princess Anri | #007
2012 is going to be Murray's year.

I'm no longer a Nadal supporter.

Andy Murray is my new favorite player/person.


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The Mana Sword
01/13/12 6:51:00 AM
#16:


Time for the bottom half.

Division 5

8 United States M Fish
Luxembourg G Müller

Colombia A Falla
Italy F Fognini

Spain A Montañés
Spain P Riba

Germany P
Kohlschreiber
25 Argentina J Mónaco

20 Germany F Mayer
Chinese Taipei Y-h Lu

Q TBD
Belgium S Darcis

Q TBD
Slovenia B Kavcic

France A Mannarino
11 Argentina JM del Potro

Fish had a pretty great year in 2011 all things considered, but I don't think he's going to be able to keep up that pace in 2012. There's a number of potential of landmines in the top half of this division that make me worry. Del Potro, on the other hand, I think will be back in full force this year. I think Fish should be able to tackle the top half if he plays consistently, but regardless who actually does make it there, del Potro beats.

Division 5: del Potro > Fish


Division 6

13 Ukraine A Dolgopolov
WC Australia G Jones

Germany T Kamke
Romania V Hănescu

WC France K de Schepper
United States S Querrey

Australia B Tomic
22 Spain F Verdasco

31 Austria J Melzer
Croatia I Karlović

Argentina C Berlocq
Q TBD

France É Prodon
Germany A Beck

Q TBD
3 Switzerland R Federer

Look at all that young talent in the top half. And hey Querrey's finally back. Dolgopolov seems to be a lot more promising of a prospect than Tomic. Once upon a time I would have taken Verdasco to get through the top half of the division, but he hasn't played well in a while. He's certainly capable of making it to the fourth round against Federer, but Dolgopolov seems more likely. Also look for Karlovic to give Federer a run for his money in round 3.

Division 6: Federer > Dolgopolov

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The Mana Sword
01/13/12 7:05:00 AM
#17:


Division 7

7 Czech Republic T Berdych
Spain A Ramos

Belgium O Rochus
Q TBD

Ukraine S Stakhovsky
Q TBD

Q TBD
30 South Africa K Anderson

21 Switzerland S Wawrinka
France B Paire

Cyprus M Baghdatis
PR Germany B Becker

France J Chardy
Bulgaria G Dimitrov

Poland L Kubot
10 Spain N Almagro

The most up in the air division of the tournament IMO. I've never thought Berdych was all that great, and he could potentially lose to plenty of people here. The issue is that anyone could feasibly lose to anyone else in this division. I could see Baghdatis going on a bit of a run, and uh...let's throw one out there for voltch.

Division 7: Baghdatis > Anderson


Division 8

16 United States J Isner
WC Australia B Mitchell

Finland J Nieminen
Argentina D Nalbandian

Italy F Cipolla
Russia N Davydenko

Argentina L Mayer
18 Spain F López

28 Croatia I Ljubicic
Q TBD

Q TBD
United States D Young

PR Germany T Haas
Q TBD

Q TBD
2 Spain R Nadal

Isner is so wildly inconsistent, I could see doing anything from losing in the first round to beating Nadal. As long as Nadal stays healthy, he shouldn't have too much a problem, but unfortunately that's something that's always in question. As for Isner, I'll give him until the third round before he blows it.

Division 8: Nadal > Lopez

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The Mana Sword
01/13/12 7:14:00 AM
#18:


Final Rounds

Djokovic > Ferrer

As long as Djokovic is on point, I can't see him really falling before the semis this year. Ferrer can go on good runs once in a while, but on hard court he can't really match up to Djokovic when he's playing well.


Tsonga > Murray

Good news and bad news for Murray fans. The good news is you won't have to see him lose in a third straight Australian Open final this year. The bad news is he won't even make it that far.


Federer > del Potro

I am calling this one as the match of the tournament. Expect a replay of the 2009 US Open finals, but with Federer coming out on top this time. It'll be a tough loss for del Potro for sure, but this is the kind of match he needs to really get back in the swing of things.


Nadal > Baghdatis

Uh yeah, whoever makes it out of Division 7 gets destroyed.


Djokovic > Tsonga

This should be a fun match to watch, and I do think Tsonga has a better than you'd think chance of winning it, but it's hard to not side with Djokovic when he's gotten it done a number of times previously.


Nadal > Federer

Will Federer finally beat Nadal in a Slam? Nope.


Djokovic > Nadal

Will Nadal finally beat Djokovic in a final? Nope.


Not going to bother touching the women's bracket. I'll just say that I think Azarenka wins over Kvitova in the finals.

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voltch
01/13/12 7:34:00 AM
#19:


Berdych vs Anderson game of the tournament.

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The Mana Sword
01/13/12 7:44:00 AM
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More like a boring 6-0 6-0 6-0 rout for Anderson.

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The_Djoker
01/13/12 8:39:00 AM
#21:


Djokovic > Federer in the final.

Nadull has a crap draw. He won't get past 3rd round, he's not even fully fit and has retired last 2 Aussie opens. Indoor hardcourts just isn't his surface. Plus he's playing big hitters who he struggles against. Poor Nadalina.

Djokoking all the way.

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The Mana Sword
01/13/12 8:40:00 AM
#22:


Good thing the Australian Open isn't indoor!

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The_Djoker
01/13/12 8:54:00 AM
#23:


yeah but it plays like it most of the time.

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voltch
01/14/12 12:20:00 AM
#24:


this should be an open tournament. Time to see who has the breakout year.

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01/14/12 12:54:00 AM
#25:


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voltch
01/15/12 6:40:00 AM
#26:


get hyped.

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The Mana Sword
01/15/12 8:00:00 AM
#27:


TONIGHT

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Princess Anri
01/15/12 10:44:00 AM
#28:


Well I just looked at the coverage schedule and it looks like ESPN2 has a lot of great coverage.

This is great news in the face of my first completely Tennis Channelless Slam in years.

Also, your sig is making me sick to my stomach now.

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GwynethPaltrow
01/15/12 7:35:00 PM
#29:


Oops Tomic had three set points and had an easy putaway on the last one and blew it.

Now he's two sets down and looks tired/defeated enough for a possible retirement in the third.

Tough break, I thought he'd do better.

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Eternal_Debate
01/15/12 8:23:00 PM
#30:


Tomic won the third set, but yeah, he should have won the second set. I don't expect any of the Australians to do much (as an aussie myself), Tomic was probably the one with the best shot of getting far.

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GwynethPaltrow
01/15/12 8:23:00 PM
#31:


My predictions skillz are as sharp as ever.

But I still predicted the exact game/set score of the 2010 French Open Final.

So I am still technically a certified expert.

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GwynethPaltrow
01/15/12 8:49:00 PM
#32:


Wow Tomic is killing my plans of doing work tonight and going to bed early.

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The Mana Sword
01/15/12 9:43:00 PM
#33:


Great match.

lol Dogopolov

Azarenka gonna win

Brad Gilbert refered to Melzer as "Tuna Melzer" earlier

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GwynethPaltrow
01/15/12 9:44:00 PM
#34:


From: The Mana Sword | #033
Brad Gilbert refered to Melzer as "Tuna Melzer" earlier


augh I missed this.

Also, Verdasco is the new James Blake.

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The Mana Sword
01/15/12 9:54:00 PM
#35:


I still think Tomic sucks, but that was one hell of a comeback

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GwynethPaltrow
01/15/12 9:57:00 PM
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Yeah that was great.

He is now the clear favorite to win this tournament.

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Princess Anri
01/15/12 11:46:00 PM
#37:


Eat it, Kuznetsov.

You're a joke.

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voltch
01/16/12 1:29:00 AM
#38:


Britain got sweeped in sets.

And they expect Murray to play well with that talent pool, ha.

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The Mana Sword
01/16/12 6:52:00 AM
#39:


Woo, all of my predictions are still live after day 1.

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nintendogirl1
01/16/12 7:18:00 AM
#40:


voltch posted...
Britain got sweeped in sets.

And they expect Murray to play well with that talent pool, ha.


Britain had six singles players in the main draw of a foreign Grand Slam for the first time since 1992.

By Day 2 they had 1.

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Eternal_Debate
01/16/12 5:05:00 PM
#41:


I find it interesting that even with four countries involved, Great Britain still can't even win a set. Although Murray should break that pattern. That is, if he has a better attitude than he did in the early matches in Brisbane anyway where he was complaining after nearly every point he didn't win.

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Princess Anri
01/16/12 7:07:00 PM
#42:


Djokovic wins without dropping a game in the last two sets.

Undefeated year confirmed.

Also, Sharapova is raping Dulko.

Which sounds hot but in reality it's just sad :(

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The Mana Sword
01/16/12 7:15:00 PM
#43:


Sharapova too good. Her serve was shockingly acceptable today.

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Princess Anri
01/16/12 7:18:00 PM
#44:


Dulko was pretty bad today though.

She looked like she was hitting 20 mph groundstrokes.

I mean I know she's never had much power but against Sharapova, that s*** never had a chance.

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RappinHobo9292
01/16/12 7:24:00 PM
#45:


Woah what the hell when did this start?

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Princess Anri
01/16/12 7:25:00 PM
#46:


Yesterday.

Nothing big has happened so far except Tomic beat Verdasco after going down two sets to none.

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RappinHobo9292
01/16/12 7:37:00 PM
#47:


Did del Potro play yet?

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Princess Anri
01/16/12 7:49:00 PM
#48:


Yeah he won a four-setter.

Wasn't looking all that great yet.

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RappinHobo9292
01/16/12 7:54:00 PM
#49:


Alright thanks.

I was hoping he'd shake off the rust by now. :/

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Princess Anri
01/16/12 8:02:00 PM
#50:


Oh God Murray about to lose the first set.

No sleep for me.

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