or something
a scenario in which they take the time to establish a weapon or ability and it DOESN"T come into play later?
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BIGPUN9999 01/06/12 2:11:00 PM #1: |
or something
a scenario in which they take the time to establish a weapon or ability and it DOESN"T come into play later? -- http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/633/puun.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WazzupGenius00 01/06/12 2:11:00 PM #2: |
that would probably just be subverted Chekhov's Gun
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Phase 01/06/12 2:14:00 PM #3: |
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/WhatHappenedToTheMouse
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DeepsPraw 01/06/12 2:15:00 PM #4: |
Red Herring?
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LordoftheMorons 01/06/12 2:15:00 PM #5: |
Red herrings?
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Gr8CyberMonkey 01/06/12 2:15:00 PM #6: |
Red herring
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OmarsComin 01/06/12 2:16:00 PM #7: |
TVTropes has stolen too many hours of my life and I refuse to click on that link
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XIII_rocks 01/06/12 2:17:00 PM #8: |
From: WazzupGenius00 | #002 My thought too. -- Official ~Trendsetter~ of Board 8 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HaRRicH 01/06/12 2:17:00 PM #9: |
There are probably ways to work around Chekhov's theory on guns (for those who don't know: essentially, you must fire a gun if you show a gun on-stage). I'm debating whether or not I want to follow that rule in the play I'm writing now, actually.
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BIGPUN9999 01/06/12 2:18:00 PM #10: |
From: WazzupGenius00 | #002 yea that works -- http://13.media.tumblr.com/zbT6A1rVVpy6od97NFhgY74uo1_250.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Viktor Vaughn 01/06/12 2:18:00 PM #11: |
it's a red herring
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DeepsPraw 01/06/12 2:19:00 PM #12: |
XIII_rocks posted...
From: WazzupGenius00 | #002 that would probably just be subverted Chekhov's Gun My thought too. What does that even mean? Wouldn't it be "reverse Chekhov's Gun" if anything? Or even "inverted" I'm not sure you two know what "subverted" means. -- Jerry Sandusky is a football God! Jerry Sandusky is a football LEGEND! http://youtu.be/B3fRhOfkc_w ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BIGPUN9999 01/06/12 2:23:00 PM #13: |
From: Phase | #003 these seem to be events or characters -- http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/4087/sigrd.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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XIII_rocks 01/06/12 2:25:00 PM #14: |
From: DeepsPraw | #011 Just checked out the Checkov's Gun page for videogames: The original Adventure Game, Colossal Cave (frequently known just as "Adventure"), subverts this: there's a room whose description goes on for pages and pages (compared to a few terse lines for other rooms), in an age when computer memory was at an extreme premium. The room has no effect whatsoever on the plot. Is this not what PUN is talking about? -- http://i.imgur.com/LjoWT.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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XIII_rocks 01/06/12 2:25:00 PM #15: |
Red Herring also works, though that sounds kind of more...obvious than what PUN is talking about here.
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XIII_rocks 01/06/12 2:30:00 PM #16: |
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DeepsPraw 01/06/12 2:34:00 PM #17: |
XIII_rocks posted...
Just checked out the Checkov's Gun page for videogames: Is this not what PUN is talking about? Oh, that's just TVTropes lingo. It doesn't mean anything and makes you look like an idiot when you bring it up in serious conversation. Chekov's Gun is an actual literary technique, just in case you thought it was a TVtrope thing as well. -- Jerry Sandusky is a football God! Jerry Sandusky is a football LEGEND! http://youtu.be/B3fRhOfkc_w ... Copied to Clipboard!
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XIII_rocks 01/06/12 2:35:00 PM #18: |
*looks DeepsPraw up on that certain banned archive site*
oh right. I see. -- "I wish I was French." - blindhobo13 "I don't think you know what "French" means." - As I Desire ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DeepsPraw 01/06/12 2:35:00 PM #19: |
Oh, I just realized that Pun said trope in the OP.
And since Chekov's Gun isn't an actual trope, I assume he's talking about TVTropes. Carry on, then. I don't want anything to do with that awful site. I mistakenly thought this was a topic about actual literary technique. -- Jerry Sandusky is a football God! Jerry Sandusky is a football LEGEND! http://youtu.be/B3fRhOfkc_w ... Copied to Clipboard!
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OmarsComin 01/06/12 2:47:00 PM #20: |
seems unpleasant from what I've seen
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Eeeevil Overlord 01/06/12 4:49:00 PM #21: |
Literally just got off TVTropes thanks to that link.
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Paratroopa1 01/06/12 4:53:00 PM #22: |
DeepsPraw is right though, I've always been annoyed that TVTropes uses the term "subversion" when they really mean "inversion."
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Grand Kirby 01/06/12 4:56:00 PM #23: |
From: Paratroopa1 | #022 To be fair, it's such a well known problem they even have a page about it. http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NotASubversion -- Okay, I rolled a 14. What's that mean? Hsu That you're a cheater. This is a 12-sided die. Chan ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Paratroopa1 01/06/12 4:59:00 PM #24: |
Of course, having an entire page dedicated to this is exactly the kind of thing TVTropes would do.
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paperwarior 01/06/12 5:05:00 PM #25: |
Red herring is what I thought of, but I suppose that has to be intentional, as opposed to the mouse thing.
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XIII_rocks 01/06/12 5:10:00 PM #26: |
from that page
It's only a subversion if the work sets up the trope, creating an expectation that the trope will be used, and then does something else Again, is this not what PUN was going for? >_> -- http://www.mariocube.nl/upload/XIII1008171346.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Grand Kirby 01/06/12 5:20:00 PM #27: |
From: XIII_rocks | #026 Yeah. If you set up something in a way that seems like it would be important later, but deliberately make it pointless or never used, then that would be a Subversion. So a Red Herring would be the correct answer. An Inversion or reverse Chekhov's Gun would probably be something like, I dunno, maybe closer to a Retcon. Having something happen, and then retroactively explaining that it was set up beforehand (even though it really wasn't). -- Okay, I rolled a 14. What's that mean? Hsu That you're a cheater. This is a 12-sided die. Chan ... Copied to Clipboard!
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redrocket 01/06/12 5:22:00 PM #28: |
DeepsPraw posted...
Oh, I just realized that Pun said trope in the OP. And since Chekov's Gun isn't an actual trope, I assume he's talking about TVTropes. Carry on, then. I don't want anything to do with that awful site. I mistakenly thought this was a topic about actual literary technique. So much mad. -- From his looks Magus is Macho Man Randy Savage as an anime zombie. The black wind howls, and one of you will snap into a Slim Jim ooh yeeeah! -sonicblastpunch ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BIGPUN9999 01/06/12 7:37:00 PM #29: |
Oh you guys
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