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Paratroopa1
01/05/12 2:43:00 PM
#251:


KanzarisKelshen posted...
This is why disliking Upward Movement is crazytalk, Para:

Makes everything better, confirmed.


Haha oh geez. To be completely honest, that was gross. Eye of the Tiger did not fit at all.
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Sceptilesolarbeam
01/05/12 2:43:00 PM
#252:


song list time

1. Umbral Ultimatum
2. MeGaLoVania
3. Descend
4. Killed by Br8k Spider
5. Sburban Jungle
6. Rex Duodecim Angelus
7. Lotus (Bloom)
8. Black Hole, Green Sun
9. Knife's Edge
10. Derse Dreamers

Well, it's all super variable.

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tereziWright
01/05/12 2:43:00 PM
#253:


but I can only imagine how someone who HASN'T heard it before would feel upon reaching the flash.

This guy right here.

Vouch.

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SSBM_Guy
01/05/12 2:44:00 PM
#254:


Yeah.

I also recommend not listening to How Do I Live (Bunny in the Box mix) because it takes away a lot from the flash. But it's still amazing in flash form.

But yeah, Black Hole, Green Sun. Amazing song, but it's absolutely horrible to listen to it before Cascade.

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Paratroopa1
01/05/12 2:45:00 PM
#255:


KanzarisKelshen posted...
I feel the same way with the rest of Cascade except Flare (which is just weak). It was a 'HOLY ****' moment for me when I heard Savior of the Dreaming Dead, but I can only imagine how someone who HASN'T heard it before would feel upon reaching the flash.

What? No way, Flare is the second best part of Cascade (although all of it is great.)

I do agree that Cascade shouldn't be spoiled though, even for someone who might not read Homestuck at all. It just... doesn't really work without the context. Black Hole/Green Sun in particular, for me, belongs at the end of Cascade and nowhere else. Shouldn't even be listened to on its own without the rest of the piece.
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Sceptilesolarbeam
01/05/12 2:47:00 PM
#256:


What? No way, Flare is the second best part of Cascade (although all of it is great.)

Hopefully Kanz is just confused with the album version that's a lot weaker.

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Lightning Strikes
01/05/12 2:47:00 PM
#257:


Yep, it's the same for Saviour of the Dreaming Dead. Actually got tingles when dat guitar kicked in for the first time. All of the Cascade songs really, but the last two especially.

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tereziWright
01/05/12 2:49:00 PM
#258:


Still get chills at SotDD during every rewatch, TBQH.

Also a hard song to listen to by itself for me compared to just listening to Cascade as a whole because it ends differently. I prefer how SotDD closes off in the flash, definitely.

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HeroDelTiempo17
01/05/12 2:49:00 PM
#259:


I like both the album and Cascade version of Flare, although the flash version is noticeably better. <_< I hope that version gets a standalone version at some point.

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KanzarisKelshen
01/05/12 2:49:00 PM
#260:


From: Paratroopa1 | #255
KanzarisKelshen posted...
I feel the same way with the rest of Cascade except Flare (which is just weak). It was a 'HOLY ****' moment for me when I heard Savior of the Dreaming Dead, but I can only imagine how someone who HASN'T heard it before would feel upon reaching the flash.

What? No way, Flare is the second best part of Cascade (although all of it is great.)

I do agree that Cascade shouldn't be spoiled though, even for someone who might not read Homestuck at all. It just... doesn't really work without the context. Black Hole/Green Sun in particular, for me, belongs at the end of Cascade and nowhere else. Shouldn't even be listened to on its own without the rest of the piece.


Flare is extraordinarily weak. Beta is basically Descend, with all that comes with the territory. Black Hole Green Sun summarizes the bleakness of the situation and how the climax is fast approaching, and Savior of the Dreaming Dead is...well, Doctor is pretty much the 'hope' theme of Homestuck. SotDD is what happens when the hope theme decides to rock out, and it's about as great as you'd expect. Flare is...fluff. A background piece. It's not touching, it's not memorable, and it's not tied to key scenes that add extra emotional punch, either. It's not bad, but it's forgettable.

EDIT: Yes, I was thinking of the album version, because I legitimately can't remember what the Cascade version of Flare was like. Link to it so I can see if it's better?

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Sceptilesolarbeam
01/05/12 2:50:00 PM
#261:


The buildup to Spades shooting Snowman isn't memorable, huh?

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Pram_the_Oracle
01/05/12 2:52:00 PM
#262:


Am I the only one who likes English?

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Paratroopa1
01/05/12 2:52:00 PM
#263:


Flare is fluff?

buh?

Man, part 3 of Cascade is like, the best part if you set aside story importance (since it's kind of hard to top parts 6 and 7 in terms of sheer "holy s*** factor"). The art's fantastic, I really like the gimmick of the way the background and foreground are used, and Flare sets the atmosphere perfectly and has a great buildup to the part with Spades and Snowman, which is impressive given they're practically joke characters up to this point.
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Paratroopa1
01/05/12 2:53:00 PM
#264:


Pram_the_Oracle | Posted 1/5/2012 2:52:03 PM | message detail | quote
Am I the only one who likes English?


Like, the song? No, you're not. I think it's probably the most brilliantly composed song in all of Homestuck.
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KimPine
01/05/12 2:53:00 PM
#265:


Flare has Dave and Rose drifting to oblivion, it's a very emotional part of the flash. Perhaps it's undermined by the fact SotDD and Jade going Dog Tier is so uplifting and such a memorable moment.
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Sceptilesolarbeam
01/05/12 2:54:00 PM
#266:


The images are. The music, not really.

bad taste hoooooooo

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KanzarisKelshen
01/05/12 2:54:00 PM
#267:


From: Pram_the_Oracle | #262
Am I the only one who likes English?


No, but it's like a 2/10 compared to the highpoints of The Felt.

From: Sceptilesolarbeam | #261
The buildup to Spades shooting Snowman isn't memorable, huh?


The images are. The music, not really.

EDIT: Since when were the Black Queen and the guy who helped exile her and proceeded to guide the trolls from a distance joke characters? I mean, really?

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tereziWright
01/05/12 2:55:00 PM
#268:


I'm listening to Cascade Beta and Descend one after the other, and watching Descend with the volume off and Cascade Beta playing instead, and....I'm really just not even seeing a remote similarity here.

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KanzarisKelshen
01/05/12 2:56:00 PM
#269:


From: KimPine | #266
Flare has Dave and Rose drifting to oblivion, it's a very emotional part of the flash. Perhaps it's undermined by the fact SotDD and Jade going Dog Tier is so uplifting and such a memorable moment.


But see, that part isn't linked with Flare, to me. It's linked to an album track that encapsulates the moment.

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KanzarisKelshen
01/05/12 2:57:00 PM
#270:


From: tereziWright | #268
I'm listening to Cascade Beta and Descend one after the other, and watching Descend with the volume off and Cascade Beta playing instead, and....I'm really just not even seeing a remote similarity here.


Do I really need to point out which parts of Beta are lifted from which songs, in a manner that parallels Descend? Because I really don't feel like doing it but I will if I must.

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tereziWright
01/05/12 2:57:00 PM
#271:


Arisen Anew coming on randomly out of the entire soundtrack after flipping between Descend and Cascade Beta.

FAAAAAAAATE.

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tereziWright
01/05/12 2:59:00 PM
#272:


I don't recognize any parts of Beta <_<

I recognize all the stuff in Descend!

Void hoodie just arrived in the mail 1 minute ago awww yeah.

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Lightning Strikes
01/05/12 3:01:00 PM
#273:


Also found this while navigating through related links from Kanz's youtube link:



HOW DOES THIS GO SO WELL

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tereziWright
01/05/12 3:01:00 PM
#274:


Also my Gunnerkrigg Court Symbol shirt from TopatoCo.

I don't remember who all I got to start reading that in my HS readthrough topic all those months ago.

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Pram_the_Oracle
01/05/12 3:04:00 PM
#275:


2/10 what

Best song in The Felt.

BTW, was Sunsetter ever used?

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KanzarisKelshen
01/05/12 3:05:00 PM
#276:


From: Pram_the_Oracle | #275
2/10 what

Best song in The Felt.

BTW, was Sunsetter ever used?


Nope, I don't think so. As for the better songs, Swing of the Clock would be one of those for example.

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Paratroopa1
01/05/12 3:05:00 PM
#277:


By the way, everyone is aware that English is a total mindf*** when played in reverse, right?

That's why it's so brilliant.
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EDumey
01/05/12 3:05:00 PM
#278:


From: tereziWright | #274
Also my Gunnerkrigg Court Symbol shirt from TopatoCo.

I don't remember who all I got to start reading that in my HS readthrough topic all those months ago.


I am, but it's terribly agonizing to read as it updates. Moreso than HS is.

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tereziWright
01/05/12 3:08:00 PM
#279:


From: Pram_the_Oracle | #275

BTW, was Sunsetter ever used?


No.

Which reminds me, can't wait for this....like almost 4 months from now, ****.

http://fwugradiation.tumblr.com/post/14756597149/im-learning-how-to-use-compressors

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Natwaf_akidna
01/05/12 3:15:00 PM
#281:


Nope, I don't think so.

No.


Aww.

Well, at least Jonesy's back in GC.

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KanzarisKelshen
01/05/12 3:15:00 PM
#282:


Because Slick and Droog are too classy. We can all agree that Hearts Boxcars is at the bottom though.

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KimPine
01/05/12 3:16:00 PM
#283:


From: tereziWright | #274
Also my Gunnerkrigg Court Symbol shirt from TopatoCo.

I don't remember who all I got to start reading that in my HS readthrough topic all those months ago.


Gunnerkrig is fantastic, it's just hard to read now because of how it updates. Hussie spoils all other webcomics in so many different ways.
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SSBM_Guy
01/05/12 3:18:00 PM
#284:


Clubs Deuces reminds me someone that reaaaaaaaaally annoys me, so I can't have him at 3rd.

However, his dance after killing Jade just miiiight push him over top Boxcar for me.

Slick is too damn classy and is just great. The whole Slick/Snowman/Scratch thing was great. And Droogs? Droogs is just god damn amazing.

Make her pay, indeed.

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tereziWright
01/05/12 3:18:00 PM
#285:


From: KimPine | #283
Hussie spoils all other webcomics in so many different ways.


Can't wait till he writes that book about it.

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Viktor Vaughn
01/05/12 3:23:00 PM
#286:


how quickly we forget YOU KISS THAT GIRL THIS INSTANT

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Lightning Strikes
01/05/12 3:24:00 PM
#287:


Yeah, Clubs Deuce is great. Slick and Droog are just that awesome.

Even Boxcars is pretty good though. He has one of the best moments of the intermission ("The attempt was an overwhelming success") and is the subject of its funniest jokes (any time someone tries to be him). His interactions with Tavros are hilarious too.

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KanzarisKelshen
01/05/12 3:26:00 PM
#288:


The problem is that Boxcars just...gets no spotlight. If he had some more time he'd be ranked third for sure, but he kinda gets glossed over.

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Lightning Strikes
01/05/12 3:28:00 PM
#289:


The fact that all his agent self really did was die(though it was a pretty awesome death) didn't really help that.

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Tehmoosey1
01/05/12 3:58:00 PM
#291:


Everyone was talking about songs, but I don't think a single user has mentioned Rex Duodecim Angelus.

Probably my favorite piece on any of the soundtracks, with Cascade (especially the Flare segment) taking second.

Oh, and Clubs Deuce is great, just doesn't have the sheer style of Slick or the class of Droog.

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tereziWright
01/05/12 4:00:00 PM
#292:


From: Tehmoosey1 | #291
Everyone was talking about songs, but I don't think a single user has mentioned Rex Duodecim Angelus.


Multiple people!

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Natwaf_akidna
01/05/12 4:01:00 PM
#293:


Dude. 3 people mentioned it.

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Tehmoosey1
01/05/12 4:02:00 PM
#294:


Must've missed it!

Still deserves a fourth mention, it's that good!

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LordoftheMorons
01/05/12 7:22:00 PM
#295:


CD is hilarious enough that it always makes me sad to put him third, but SS and DD are just better.

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tereziWright
01/05/12 7:35:00 PM
#296:


I've been searching for like 10 minutes and can't figure out where the Nic Cage boner quote comes from.

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KimPine
01/05/12 7:40:00 PM
#297:


Snake Eyes
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tereziWright
01/05/12 7:44:00 PM
#298:


OK, I saw that come up once or twice, but it wasn't in a "best quotes from Snake Eyes" video so I figured that was wrong.

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KimPine
01/05/12 8:32:00 PM
#299:


Apparently, there a a few films in which Cage uses "boner."
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tereziWright
01/05/12 9:42:00 PM
#300:


Man

There needs to be more of this

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The P4 cast would be ****in' at SBURB

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